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>>34574517
just be confident bro

Have a date with a turbo autistic girl tomorrow. First date in years but I’m not gonna tell her that

When is it okay to tell the girl you’re dating you’re autistic. Does she need to be my gf first?

>>34574530
but woman reject me :[

How to get pale white non obese female to step on my face

>>34574594
> bro just be confident bro
> bro just get a haircut bro
> bro take a shower bro
> bro talk to her bro
> bro make eye contact bro
> bro back straight shoulders back bro
> bro go the gym bro
> bro wear nice clothes bro
> bro wash your ass bro
> bro eat clean bro
> bro make sure to smile bro
> bro skincare routine bro
> bro it's the personality bro
> bro make her laugh bro
> bro get a tan bro
> bro read a book to be interesting bro
> bro buy a bidet bro
> bro slide into the DMs bro
> bro be charismatic bro
> bro be interesting bro
> bro have a cool hobby bro
> bro have your friends/sister introduce you bro
> bro wear cool accessories bro
> bro make her feel safe bro
> bro take her to the movies bro
> bro clean the earwax in your ears bro
> bro open up and be vulnerable bro
> bro AURA bro
>bro bounce back after a rejection bro
> bro bro bro bro bro bro

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>>34574747
Bro, I got you bro!

>>34574826
Most of that list is "have money"
Also men are taller than women
And why would you ever complain about dating younger women

>>34574853
bro, men need to overachieve to get on with mids. that's the point of the meme, I'm actually can get girls, but i can understand the overall frustration on both side of the sexes.
haven't you seen the landwhale tinder whore and literal chad rapist criminal meme? it's insanity out there.
So basically avg guys get scraps via online dating, while 7-9s can access to 5s-6s if desperate to fuck, so again those foids are entitled to chad in their perspective because they got dicked once by a complete drunk nigga.
bottom line, don't be retarded bro

>>34574863
The funny thing is that this meme is an older one and has been around since before the broccoli headed zoomers where captioning their tiktok dances with 'hoeflation' '80/20 rule' blackpill shit.
It has always been like this and is getting worse now with the checklist's bare minimum requirements. That and it has become somewhat socially acceptable to lightly 'joke' about it it out now, to offset the bad vibes...

>>34574747
this but unironically

>>34574826
And here comes the kissless virgin neet giving everyone advice about women.

>>34574863
/soc/ rated me a 3 and I've had plenty of decent pussy in the past and I'll have plenty more in a few months when I'm in a better living situation
>> bro just be confident bro
Unironically all that matters, see >>34573755

>>34574960
speak for yourself faggot, i'm a lite-chad in person.
I have banged more foids than your body count of 5 if you're lucky.
please debate what points are wrong that men need to overachieve completely vs foids, so putting 10x the effort. and avg/ugly dudes such as yourself have no virtual odds on online dating and can only get fat black cunts or literally disabled retards
kek

>>34574974
Sorry for whatever happened to you that made you like this

>>34574981
reality is a bitch, and i'm here to fuck her.

>>34574960
found the bitter femcel lol >>34574958

stop trying to pick fights granny, there are other ways to get the attention of zoomer BVLLS that do not include making a spectacle of yourself

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>>34574747
>>34574826
I hate it how I have known about this shit ever since I was 13 years old from going on prime incel r9k in 2014. Im not even an virgin but fuck man ive been lonely for so long it just feels so hopeless. Since the last time ive felt any intimacy I have:dropped out of school, returned to school and got my bachelors, became an alcoholic, stopped being an aloholic, worked 5 different jobs, started my career, gained 60 pounds, lost 80 pounds, and etc. I feel better now than I have in many years but its not like I feel that good, I play guitar and work out most days but I only do that because if I stop my suicide ideation will come back. I dont even give a fuck that it is friday I know nothing will improve. I aint even depressed either because I can still function and receive some enjoyment from things I like. Maybe i should go buy a halberd or an SS helmet to make myself feel better for a few minutes lmao.

>>34574973
with all due respect, if you're a 3. you don't get tail, be honest brother.
you would be literally obese and disabled if you look like a 3. and you're decent pussy is a 1-2, I don't even want to imagine what does looks like.
>>34575023
I mean if you're average there's no other way than to looksmaxx. you need to lift, you need to earn well, you need to be strong and lean, update your wardrobe that gets you close to a 7-8 in looks (depending how unfortunate you got in the face department).
but then again avg men are so weak and lame you can quickly climb some ranks and be more attractive, so there's hope. the only thing is you need to put the effort and discipline. men don't have it easy, it was never meant to be easy for a dude.
Godspeed

>>34575038
nta but how on earth do I dress myself?

Fashion seems to be the only guide missing from these self improvement guides, and I've taken to copying my friends' styles since I do not want to look like ignatius j reilly yknow?

>>34575068
depends on your age and style, probably the faggots over /fa/ can advice too. but you can look some ideas easily around the web (and grab like 3-4 main attires you can always play dress up with that would look good).
the key is to wear something that fits you nicely, you feel comfortable in your own skin and it's decent looking for the foids.
so you get the idea. also importance having a nice haircut / tidy trimmed/beard.
and obviously hygiene for you spergs, being clean and tidy is very important (trim your nails, wash your balls, brush your teeth, avoid bad breath).

>>34575038
You're right. Your framework with which you view reality is 100% correct, you know the details of my life better than I do. I am begging you to continue living your life and interacting with people with the same mindset you have now. Pretty please? It's for your own good! It benefits me in no way for you to continue being how you are. And as a bonus, convince more people to think like you if possible. Thanks man.

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>>34575089
So play it safe and keep it simple? That is quite straightforward.
Should I just drop the urge to 'express myself' and dress in a unique way, is that just a meme? (I do not want to look like a turbo autist) pic rel.

And I dare not step foot in the /fa/ board

>>34575118
That look works but you will be a weirdo until you come to actually establish youself as the weird guy who dresses like that. But also, this guy in this image is just handsome and will look good in a t shirt and jeans. Will you?
Reviewbrah is someone who persisted and now has a distinct style, but he's paid for it and is a legit social recluse. Also, will you be larping? Will you dress the same at home? That's the difference between a costume and everyday dress.

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>>34575099
checked, bro, i mean i'm all up for showing who has the largest dick, don't you get it.
Mindset gets you far yes, but if you don't have the looks and charisma (which an autistic 3 on the looks scale wouldn't even have) you got nothing brother, so tell me, how many women have you picked from dating apps, how many have you picked up in clubs, how many on random streets? I assume virtually 0 on all those fronts, or can you prove me wrong? (you cannot), so you get your fat oneitis from colleague which was a disgusting landwhale and you call that decent pussy. nice cope mein nigga
I can show you my conquests, can you show me yours? i got the ego for that champ, show us how it's done loverboy

>>34575118
so again style depends on what you want to attract, a goth girl ain't gonna be attracted to a normie obv. a rich girl ain't gonna be attracted to a hippie fag, etc.
What I would say, is smart casual, clean, tidy, good looking and timeless.
And please try to not be overweight, because that's primordial.
you could rock something like this for going out with dates and they'll be attracted if you put the work behind it

>>34575118
also remember, the unique aspect is tough to go unless you play the artist vibes, girls always follow the crowd so whatever is trending they'll like. they cannot think by themselves everything needs to be processed by the lens of their own constructed narratives

>>34575149
Did I say I was a 3? Sorry, typo, I meant to type 2.
>which an autistic 3 on the looks scale wouldn't have
Where do I buy a looks scale btw?

>>34575149
This looks like a normalnigger who's about to do a home energy efficiency inspection but I guess normie women like this.

>>34575149
hello this is the fashion anon. I have been told by some random girls and my brother's friends that I am better looking than him and he is quite popular with the ladies, which I suspect is due to his good fashion sense and outgoing demeanor.
I, on the other hand, am socially colder and do not like to go out and socialize much, and though it would be a smart idea to dress myself to attract girls with a similar temperament or similar interests to me.

The pic from before is an idea of what I am going for: long hair and anything with collars, but I do not want to take risks and end up looking autistic or worse, tryhard

>>34575163
you're just a foid, most men aren't as delusional as yourself, unless they are trannies.
you got anything to show for us? or just the bullshit you're spitting out kek

>>34575190
works for most ocassions, women are just cattle, very few of them are even able to think or think independently at all. they just go with emotions and feelz

>>34575162
Ah shit I missed this reply.
Yes, it would be smart to keep it within trends I guess, but I would like to select the style and coloring to match my temperament and potentially attract girls with the same or similar temperament as me

>>34575192
Do you get this pressed when your girl shit tests you?

>>34575378
I make her cry whenever we get into arguments. Literally last Wednesday night, I mentioned that relationships are transactional, and no women would date a dead broke loser unless the guy was very handsome of course, having a long list of requirements (provider role). But for a guy, it could happen that they would still date a girl even if she's a dead broke loser and kind to them lmao.
Case example, Matt Damon getting it on with a dead broken argentinean waitress with 2 bastard kids, they are currently married. Inverse the situation that would never happen from a women's side. Ergo, relationship are transactional. And the only unconditional love you can expect it's from your mom. I also said men aren't delusional and know their own limits and I said I couldn't date a 10/10 women because it's a money game, and they would go for a literal 10/10 Chad all the time. She got offended and cried because obviously she's not a 10/10.
>Women, you can't handle the truth!

>>34575378
I also heavily discuss rape statistics and crime. And I say of course there's white dudes raping out there (sexually frustrated deviants), but the overwhelming majority of cases it's niggers. She's getting it slowly into her head. With due time, women assume your own political posture.

>>34575402
>>34575411
Can I have some of your meth? I need to debloat

>>34575425
You need to start a diet bitch, then you can debloat.
Waiting on your tips and the hotties you had picked up in your long life. If you wanna pretend you're a dude Or were you only a cum dumpster for guys like me? Lmao

>>34575443
>Waiting on your tips and the hotties you had picked up in your long life
It hasn't been that long, I'm only 45

I'm on month 9 of breaking up with her.

we talked a bit and hooked up once or twice before January

she didn't reply to my birthday message and a couple others

she was like my daughter, and I abandoned her. This guilt kills me. I understand suicide now

>>34575458
Did you try aggressively redpilling her on crime statistics? It works really well for >>34575411 you'll get her back in a jiffy

>>34575496
You're still mad honey? It only works if you're attractive babe, kek.
So don't be ugly, any receipts you wanna share "chad"?

>>34575515
Why are you wasting posts toward the bump limit in your own thread? Is epicly pwning a random person on the internet that important to you?

My gf just broke up with me because I'm incompetent and can't take care of her or handle my own business

What do I do now?

>>34575458
Play arknights and get attached to Amiya

>>34575538
Smash your cheekbones and jaw with a mallet

>>34575543
I'm just lying down and I'm completely numb

>>34575533
I already stated I got my online ego here, I just don't know whether it's a foid (which I lean to) or a literal gay little man, which I cannot believe any dude can be as retarded as to pretend that you'll go far in dating without having decent looks + charisma. There's no possibility at all, unless you're playing a money game (which doesn't count), avg dudes are literally unseen in dating apps/nightclubs (not that I would recommend any of those options for avg looking dudes).
That's all. Also not my thread just spammed it a lot kek.
>>34575538
Focus on the business, make money, new foids come in. You need to sell your gf at the top and buy another one at the dip. You'll be okay

I'm too inept to kiss my dates
How over is it

>>34574398
Ahhh yes, the How to Cope General

>>34575023
>I dont even give a fuck that it is friday
Damn i didnt even know it was lol

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Reminder that she expects you to hit on her.

Beautiful women don't fuck cowards.

>>34576215
Brutal

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Dating tip:

The right one will try to overcome her fear of you to see your loving human side. The wrong one will just be blinded by it focusing only on how much of a hideous monster you are. Alright. You have to be patient. You're just someone who has his moments.

>>34576215
Okay

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What amount and what kind of female attention is an indicator that you're good looking?
I've seen people flip flop between
>women will mindlessly and shamelessly throw themselves at Chad
and
>even Chad has to approach women, women HATE making the first move
So which is it? Have any of you, or guys you know ever got female attention without you/them doing anything, i.e. making the first move? How frequently would that have to happen for you to be considered good-looking?

>>34576825
Impress her by being human with her not good looking.

What do you say to a woman in a department you never see but in passing once a day, if that? She looks down every time we catch eyes, but now so am I because I have no idea what to say and don't want to interupt her busy schedule ir freak her out. I have no idea if she even knows I exist, we've kind of looked at each other for seconds on end from a distance, but avoid eye contact when we get too close. I feel like I have no chance, and saying anything will be too much or weird. I feel like we both have been looking, but I have no idea how to break the ice. She seems polite and reserved and more considerate than the others at work, and it's just making me feel more nervous. We have 0 cross work reference of each other's jobs so I can't find a single reason to naturally engage with her, like asking for help or directions. What can I do in a 2 second interaction?

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>>34576931
>should I talk to a woman I find attractive?
the absolute fucking state of western men in the big 26 needs to be preserved and studied extensively to make sure whatever combination of psyops and contaminants in the food and water supply that caused them to become such massive, homosexual, dick sucking faggots, cannot be replicated again.
Nigga, you go up to her and tell her you think she's pretty and you would like to get to know her better.
Literal pajeets and nig nogs are capable of this despite having a low enough IQ to qualify them to be forcibly placed in a mental institution if we were to live in a society that values order and decorum.
No wonder the birth rates in Europe and the U.S. are so low.

>>34576931
Just go fucking talk to her. Ask her how her day is or say hi? How did u ever form a relationship with anyone? Your making it weirder by not breaking the ice

>>34576215
>Beautiful women don't fuck cowards.
where are they? I'm literally never in the same social setting as them. I seen them on the street occasionally.
>inb4 cold approach
I've done it and it's insane. I've gotten digits, but it's pointless and never leads to anything. It's also nigger/jeet tier.

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>>34577015
>Literal pajeets and nig nogs are capable of this despite having a low enough IQ to qualify them to be forcibly placed in a mental institution if we were to live in a society that values order and decorum.
>No wonder the birth rates in Europe and the U.S. are so low.
nta but you are a retard. Just two days ago I saw picrel on my afternoon walk, and it felt bizarre because I'm in Europe and this is basically the BBC memes from 4chan, except it's reality. These 8/10 blonde, blue eyed white women are factually insane and propagandized.
To make the claim white women are fucking niggs because white are shy or not willing to make conversation is fucking insane.

>>34575101
>My house was built in the mid 19th century. A former owner installed a modern electrical system, now outdated, around 1991. So yes, I get to do things inside instead of in the fresh air and natural sunlight, but besides that all I really have is my plumbing and electric stove. That said, I split wood, and I gather water for my garden from the nearby river (about 1000 feet away from my house). I already told you I often cook on a grill, which is cooking outside by a fire. Additionally, you were initially talking about women in the 1950s and the decades leading up to it, many of which would have had at least indoor lighting, an electric stove, and probably things like electric irons as well. The main point I was making is that women like to pretend that rinsing dishes and then tossing them into the dishwasher, throwing clothes into the washing machine and pressing start, and once a week vacuuming are some laborious full-time toil that leaves no room for any downtime, which is laughably stupid.
I said that household appliances made that possible for 1950s women. You must have gotten confused with me saying housework was difficult at the beginning of the 1900s. You also haven't mentioned any children or spouse, which suggests you're taking care of yourself only.

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I have a second date tomorrow and I’m so fucking excited to see her again. I feel like a kid on christmas eve making preparations and counting down the hours. I don’t even care if I get laid, I just want to kiss her and dance with her.

>>34576825
You still have to put in the work/ask out, but good looking men get more openings and are treated better. But you don't have to be a 10/10 supermodel, there is a somewhat high minimum but because a lot of people don't take care of themselves it is easy to stand out.

>>34578060
Happy for you, but do yourself a favor and slow you roll, if the date 3 goes well it's when you can start thinking more seriously about the girl

>>34578410
I know I know. I’m not thinking seriously yet, just enjoying the infatuation.

>>34578451
You only had one date anon. You're setting yourself up for a failure with that attitude

>>34578454
Maybe. As long I don’t let it make me come off as needy I bet it actually helps a bit.

>>34576160
Lol this.

>>34576825
>women will mindlessly and shamelessly throw themselves at Chad
They will. They always break rules for Chad. You have to be model tier in looks if you want women to approach you or initiate anything with you in general.

>>34578587
You do you. Just don't spill spaghetti

>>34577015
>>34577737
If makes you feel any better, there are niggs who lack the courage to talk to women they find attractive. I'm one of them.

>>34578060
I hate how fast these feelings can fade

t. date 6 and I am already starting to feel indifferent to things. She acts like a faggot and claps her hands in public when she gets excited

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How much time do you actually spend going after women?
Between work(overtime), friends, hobbies, etc.
I barely have time to relax, maybe a handful of hours a week I'm free and yet I still have to buy groceries and clean and shit

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Do...Do you guys really have this much trouble getting a date with a woman?
I'm in a serious relationship now but back when I was single I'd just get on Tinder/Hinge and I'd get about 10 matches per week give or take. Of those at least a few would be down to come over or go out on a date.
None of my friends have ever struggled on dating apps either and none of us are super attractive or tall. I think the tallest out of all of us is 5'10". My friends who are still single regularly get matches and go on dates and get laid probably twice a week or more.

I honestly think it has to do with y'alls incel mindset. If you just get out there and stop posting on here you'd probably do fine.

>>34578790
I just simply have a job where I don't have to work OT to make a decent living. I also have a maid who does my laundry and cleans my house while I'm not there. It's only a few hundred a month, you should look into it. The amount of time it frees up for the gym or hobbies is well worth it.

>>34578790
its is a pursuit bro. I work from home so if I don't go out there and do shit I'm never around women. that's why voluntary work is helpful .
Maybe 4/6 hours a week?

>>34578838
You’re probably right but overcoming the incel mindset is challenging for some.

>>34578596
I’ll try not to anon. It’ll probably happen eventually but I can at least put it off.
>>34578773
Sounds like the best of both worlds anon. You got to enjoy them and they didn’t tether you to someone you probably wouldn’t want to be with long term.

>>34578838
No trolling on blue boards anon

33 M/EU/middle class/181 cm. How do I even meet women? What hobbies should I pick up to meet young women?

No, I won't go on apps. No, I won't date blacks or browns. No I won't date any women older than 25.

>>34578928
>they didn’t tether you to someone you probably wouldn’t want to be with long term.
sorry I don't understand this part?
But yes, I am enjoying the sex a lot. I should be grateful for that, and not being a lonely son-of-a anymore

>>34579131
Just take salsa lessons bro :)

>>34579131
>No I won't date any women older than 25
you're missing out

I would honestly recommend the mall during the day. Lots of women to say hello to.

>>34574398
>htgwg
just be 6'3 Chad with stacked parents

>>34576215
>just inflate her ego even more bro
>just humiliate yourself for a stupid phone number bro
how about no? And by the way women fuck cowards all the time. Courage is for idiots

once you have the attention of a women (gone on a few dates) she wants to know you're interested in her. Show her you are with romance (use metaphors to explain your relationship), ask her to hang out with enthusiasm. Tease her a little bit in a flirty way.

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How do i say no to a group first-date without fucking myself?

any of you ever got laid off of the advice from this general?

>>34579432
no

>>34579357
Do you have friends for Jenny and Lizzy? If this is a first date, I'd say fuck that but that's me.
If you really want to date her a first date should be you and her at a coffee place nearby.

tfw get too many matches
that I don't feel like messaging them
so I reply late, etc
and this causes most girls to get angry
but I can't help it, it really is annoying to reply to there stupid ass boring messages

>>34575023
So he took out his frustrations on the Jews?

>>34579357
Go for it. You might hit it off with one of her friends.

>>34578773
>date 6
>haven't banged her
she's either not attractive or these aren't "dates" in her mind

>>34578838
>My friends who are still single regularly get matches and go on dates and get laid probably twice a week or more.
nope, the venn diagram of people with friends that get that much pussy doesn't overlap with 4chins posters, sorry try again

>>34579131
>33
>No, I won't go on apps
>No I won't date any women older than 25
you're looking for excuses, not women

>>34574398
>How to Get Women General #348
At which number did this thread devolve to Incel General like all the other threads? this used to be a safespace for people that actually talked to girls

>>34579988
>haven't banged her
we banged after the 3rd date
my feelings are fading because the mysticism has collapsed from doing so. I love playing with her though

i think a girl liked me in high school over 15 years ago
she asked to sit on my lap at a party (i didnt make a move) and talked to me in the hallways following that
i didnt reciprocate because i'm dumb or had eyes for someone else or i dont even know
anyway(i also thought she had a bf and didnt want the smoke but idk if that was even true) after all these years ive still never talked to a girl or had a job, is it viable to reach out to her?

99.9% chance i wont do it, just wondering if it's completely delusional or just crazy enough to work
i barely knew the girl, but there was at least the connection of having grown up in the same area / attended the same school, any other woman is going to be a complete stranger compared to someone who has that kind of shared history. & she def liked me, nobody has ever sat in my lap since then

until i get my first job ever and spend some time around coworkers i dont know when that's gonna be... feel like i botched a big milestone and the past decade is kinda me wondering why i should grow up into an adult like it's a catch 22 of a gf being a good reason to grow up, but why grow up if no gf type shit...

>>34577367
I don't chase women, they have always shown interest in me first, but they've also always been in relative proximity. Is it not STRANGE to talk to someone you never see and aren't ever around during the work day? Isn't it basically like cold approaching a stranger? No woman wants their day to be interrupted by some random guy interested in her. She has to be taken anyways, and as soon as I find that out, assuming we even talk, I AM gonna bail and stop talking to her. So then it just gets weird, and the girl talks about the guy in a bad light, and people think the guy is a creep for following basic evolutionary instinct.

>>34579249
It doesn’t sound like she’s the one. If that’s true you would want those feelings to subside and not trick you into staying too long with her.

>>34580058
Bro just do it!!! YOLO!! Sending u loveee good luck

Bros, it's my third date with this cutie tomorrow and I STILL havent gathered the courage to kiss her
What do?

How to make a comfy cozy day out of cold approaching girls?

>>34579357
Why would she address her friends by name to a stranger? Sounds fishy to me...

>>34580022
>abloobloobloo muh safe space

Maybe more and more men are getting fucked over by hypergamy and checking out? Hard to get women when you were never an option to begin with.

>>34580578
Loser.

have the best /htgwg/ minds finally discovered how a brown male can attract a white woman?

>>34581136
Extreme masculinity

>>34581070
Cuck.

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>>34574398
Advanced gamers only. I may be poor, but I fuck. How can I profit off of rich pussy? What tips and tricks do I employ to enrich myself off average upper class pussy that I have gained the trust of (i.e indians but any race too)

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>>34574398
Is making random small talk with people you don't know a meme, or does it actually help you meet girls?

>>34581725
not if it stays just small talk and doesn't evolve to big talk and also not if you're not attractive or don't otherwise have a pleasant and/or commanding aura.

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There is a thick light skin girl who works at the gym I go to, I've been attracted to her for a while but I never hit on girls so just left it alone. But the other day when I came in she commented on how I was there at an unusual time, had a bit of small talk and I got her name off her nametag and we had a laugh over me not saying it right. It was just a small moment but a good enough vibe to where I have the confidence to make a move, but I don't really know how. I'm pretty sure I would get rejected but I don't care, I just want to trust my intuition and shoot a shot for a change.

>>34581864
Do it, black gym pussy is heaven

>>34576825
Chad has the awareness to recognize when a girl is giving him the signal to approach, eg eye contact or intentionally moving nearby him. If he just went up to any random girl without getting any signal from them, he would have a much harder time.

You can not expect a perfect woman. You must accept everything about her directly from how you see and hear her not how you envisioned her. If you can't do that, then I'm sorry the relationship wasn't meant to be.

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>>34582399
trick is her having your fetish. Ex. for me it's huge tits. I can cope and put up with nearly anything is she's a tit cow.

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Why do some guys recommend you unsend a DM if a girl leaves you on seen?

I don't understand this because for me if I DM a girl and it goes nowhere, I just put it out of sight and out of mind and move on to the next prospect.

Also doesn't unsending a DM convey that you're hurt about her not replying back?

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Stats as of 6 months into this year
>5'6, 28 years old
>230 lbs " you don't look uncomfortable" when I tell irls my weight
>virgin
>has had talking stages but my autism ruins it because I'm used to long distance / discord tier relationships
Am I broken huh tuh guh with gee

>>34580344
take a camera shoot
run errands in between
take breaks at coffee shops or parks just sitting down enjoying nature

don't make it a compulsion to approach, just go on your own way focusing on improving your mood and relaxing

>>34581070
>>34580022
Dude, you're pathetic.

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Are conservative women less bitchy than liberals? Or do all women act like assholes to the weak? I'm not asking women to be attracted to weakness, just not act like cunts to them.

Need some advice:
I posted on IG about how I changed my brakes on my car over the weekend and a girl I haven’t talked to in years sent me some playful messages about how brakes are so hard and I made it look so easy. I teased her back and said “sounds like you’re volunteering to help me do the other tires, you’ll see how fun it is” to which she responded “hahaha sure only if you volunteer to help me change mine”

Last time I talked to her she has a BF. I have no idea what she’s up to or if she’s still dating someone. What’s the next move here? Treat her like she’s single until she says otherwise? Send a flirty response back? What do I even say that could work?

>>34582993
They are considerably worse in this regard.

>>34583013
Worse than feminists? That's a high bar.

>>34583035
I guess it change a bit from religion to religion, American protestant, what some people call "born again" girls make feminists look trad and nice.

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>>34582989
Retarded incel.

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>>34583049

>>34556374
>>34565076
>>34561973
>>34578060
>>34578410
Just finished the second date. I got her back to my place. I didn’t hit her milfussy but we danced and made out afterwards. Her tits are fucking perfect, way better than her photos led on to. Just the right amount of milf sag and really big. I have the feels.

>>34574540
How did you meet here?

>>34580022
Found the bitchy middle child.

How are you getting women to hook up with you on apps? Almost every profile I’ve seen has some flavor of “no hookups no FWB no casual” even on apps like Tinder

>>34575149
>looksmaxxer
>dutch phone settings
>searching in english
>for british style
>relates most to the indian models
Just get your parents to arrange a marriage for you back in india and you won't have to do all this coping, ranjeet.

>>34583385
Despite the reputation the apps have most women aren't open to "pure" hookups (i.e. you go straight to sex without going on a date). In fact, if you're direct then most women will swipe left on you, which will tank your score and make you less likely to get a match with anyone. A better tactic is to look for women who have something like "short term, open to long" or "still figuring it out" and bailing if you're not getting sex by date 2-3. Of course someone might say that those "no hookups no FWB" line doesn't apply to mythical Chads but whether that's true or not changes nothing for you.

im 32, whats the solution for this
>by meeting actual women in the real world
my office job has no women my age. do i have to go to a gym instead of working out at home? or just go to restaurants by myself? join some kind of club for adults?

>>34583125
She moved into my building and I ran into her a few times but I ended up mailing her a letter asking for her number lol
Turns out she is “asexual” though I think it’s just a defense mechanism. probably she just never had anyone show interest. Not sure how to break through that barrier though.

>>34584294
>do i have to go to a gym instead of working out at home?
Would help a lot.
>or just go to restaurants by myself?
Probably not.
>join some kind of club for adults?
Absolutely if you’re passionate about something.

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Here's some advice:
Generally, whatever it is you want in a woman, you have to be the inverse of that.

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I'm no longer sure if women like men

https://youtu.be/8hkYUXSMmEA

>>34584583
>a certain type of women dislike a certain type of men
is very far from
>every woman dislikes all men

>>34582575
Titties are awesome.

>>34584583
Carpenter is such genetic trash, last time she was bangable was her preteen youtube videos

>>34583385
Just put long-term and have sex on the first date. Many women want hookups they just want to plausibly deny being a whore.

>>34584305
You do not breach "asexual". You say " okay, bye!" and save your time.

>>34584626
This is probably the only statement you have made on this board that wasn't expired advice or pseudoscience.

>>34584294
>do i have to go to a gym instead of working out at home?
yes, preferably more of a fitness center type place that does classes too, bitches love classes
>or just go to restaurants by myself?
you're better off hunting at cute cafes

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>>34584305
Asexuals are tough

>>34584305
"I'm asexual/lesbian/enby/etc." are just soft ways of letting guys down. Just means she hasn't met her Chad yet.

>>34584751
just consider her brainrot terminal and move on

In the gym:
>girl says hi to me every time, one time before she left she looked in my direction despite me being on the other side of the gym and said goodbye
>last time we talked for hours, thought i was annoying her but she just kept talking
>she giggles, like laughs at her own jokes (idk about this one, i feel like she does this with other people too)
>told me she's single
pls i need an outside opinion, is she into me? do women who just wanna be friends act like this? i have received female attention only like a handful of times and it was never like this. i am so autistic jesus

>>34584956
>>told me she's single
That's the most obvious answer retard

>>34584751
Why would I become romantic with someone who won’t fuck?

>>34575068
Read all you can. Try things on at stores. Look at how people dress and what it does for them.

I mostly used the /fa/ infographics and Ashley Weston's stuff to help me get my own style (her new site mensfashioner.com is harder to read but still contains good stuff). Also just googling questions. You don't have to agree with what everyone says of course, but you will pick out things you agree with.

The main rules are these:
1. /fit/ > /fa/. It's better to have a good body than good clothes so work on that first.
2. Fit > all. Cheap clothes that fit beat expensive or trendy clothes that don't.
3. Don't actually listen to /fa/. The infographics are good but paradoxically, everyone there looks like shit.

Do you guys have any tips for a sperg that profoundly hates himself? I'm decently handsome, smart and wealthy; yet I always manage to screw every opportunity that I get.
Also, I occasionally catch a woman staring at me, yet I have no idea how to talk to them and I'm deeply afraid of behaving like a retard, as I did several times in the past.
Do I even deserve love? Should I stop being such a loser before approaching one?

>>34584956
stop being a faggot and ask her out, you can already talk to her without it being awkward so I don't see what the issue is

Please heeelp >>34580307

>>34585136
Just use dating apps. Since you're handsome you're a few good pictures and clever prompts away from fighting off women with a stick. Don't worry about in person opportunities like women looking at you since, as a sperg, you are least equipped to handle these well.
>t. sperg that hates himself

>>34579432
No.

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This post makes me wonder if it's reasonable to approach women doing any activity in public.

And I know I sound simpy, but is it offensive to approach them if I'm ugly and I stutter? I don't want to disturb them with my presence.

>>34584956
She's just looking for attention. If she were into you, she would have made a move already.

>>34584681
Cool. Maybe it is because I'm too busy enjoying life.

>>34585165
So just do it lmao

>>34579432
I’ve only had sex with one girl since I came here and she was very easy. It’s good to talk things over with you guys though. Part of how I do things was probably picked up here.

I'm still missing her niggas
How the FUGK do I get over her? I even know she is with someone else

>>34585915
Find someone else. Only thing I've found that works.

>>34585951
Fuark
Love is just a sad affair all around my man

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>>34585957
Yeah well life is beautiful nonetheless.

>>34574544
you don't need to tell them, if it's bad enough they'll know, if it's not then no need

>>34585957
I can't agree. I think it might be the only truly worthwhile thing.

Don't expect the woman you date to be nice to you. Expect her to be mean to you, but keep going if you notice these small signs of her having genuine interest in you. If the interest is gone, move on to find the next mean girl who likes you for you. But remember don't expect a princess, expect a mean woman.

>>34585979
I want to share eventually though instead of keeping it in and hidden (“masking”). Isn’t that a thing that happens? People share their shit?

>>34586193
I wouldn't care. You're being yourself. If she doesn't like it that's her problem not yours.

would one of those 100+ bodies, 25+ abortions, trump hating, bernie sanders, women ever humor an incel chud or nah?

I'm very attractive, have had many women approach me in just the past 2 months that I've been going out, but I'm such a sperg, I hardly know what to say to them and as we're talking, I can see their smiles and enthusiasm slowly leave their face. Not sure if anyone can relate here but hopefully someone can give some thoughtful and actionable advice. How do I conversate with them and how do I make my intentions known that I'm romantically interested? Also, this is probably a level 100 quest but how do I leave with a girl from a bar that same night and fuck her? I don't have my own place so it would have to be in a car or at hers

>>34576825
Lots of people don't understand than women do 'approach', but for a woman an 'approach' is a shy glance, or involving you in the conversation more. If you are very good-looking, then this should happen to you with some regularity (if you are in a posituon for this to happen). The man has to do the physical approach and driving and escalating the conversation and asking the girl out though, unless there's a particularily slutty girl who might be willing to do all the approach part herself if she wants to get fucked.
>>34577015
5'6? 5'7? Your definetely no taller than 5'8 with that level of small man syndrome.

>>34586345
I retardedly told one of those I voted for Trump twice on the first date. Still had five nice days and had sex twice. Her friends called me “Trump guy”.

>>34586365
See
>>34585245

Back in 2022 i broke up with my gf of 2 years . She was 2 years younger than me and a virgin when we met. I warmed her up And it took like 2 months before sleeping together. She was 18 and I was 20 when we met.

I liked her a lot and she liked me. It did sort of feel forced and we were probably both lonely-yet it was fine.

But i broke it off because i realise that idk if I could marry her. She was fine- but she had a disabled non verbal brother. And her parents basically dont raise him. They’re immigrant thirdworld parents. I just couldn’t see myself marrying this sweet perfect virgin homely innocent girl because she had retarded uneducated parents and - retarded brother.

I would just imagine us 20 years older and not able to do anything because i have to take care of her disabled brother who is mentally a todler but like 35.

She never did anything wrong the entire 3 years we dated. Now that its been 4 years since i left her. I have not met anyone else and have only had like 3 casual dates that led nowhere and i still think about how good she was to me but idk if I could marry my middle class western family to her third world one. Despite her and I getting along. Like both sides of my mums and dads family i get along with. I couldn’t imagine my kids having to basically avoid their mums family.

And yet I’m thinking about reaching out to her after all these years. Shed be 24 now.

>>34587295
._.

You couldn't even have a drink with him about how awesome his cartoons were? Shit.

>>34586844
The vast majority of women on dating apps in my area are ugly and/or boring. That’s the primary reason I’ve been focusing more on irl. I’ve had pretty good success on the apps too and have been on several dates but I’ve come to realize that I’m attracted to a lot more than just a woman’s body and I can only figure out if I’m attracted to them irl. It’s difficult to find out what someone sounds like or what their laugh is like on hinge and tinder

I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna go outside and ask a woman out

>>34587553
bro... dont forget us when you have 50 gfs

>>34587385
I think dating apps show off the personality well too. You can always tell the boring girls because their prompts are about watching TV and eating food. I’ve never cared about voice or laugh before. If that’s important to you I guess real life is better than apps for that. But I don’t see why real life women would be better than app women. I would think almost all of the interested real life women would be on some app.

>>34587727
Real life dating is dead in the sense that it's the exact same as app dating, you're just waiting to be chosen by a girl and hoping she's not some obese goblin.

>>34587727
>But I don’t see why real life women would be better than app women. I would think almost all of the interested real life women would be on some app
You’d be surprised. Maybe they’ve tried them out at one point but they aren’t actively on them. I went out to a goth night at a bar and I had a girl call me cute and I hit on another one, got her Instagram, but I think I came off as too much of a sperg because it’s been a few days now and she hasn’t accepted my follow request, which prompted my original question. I hate being autistic. I honestly just wish I was ugly so I could accept that I have no chance

>>34587727
>I would think almost all of the interested real life women would be on some app
absolutely not true, part of the reason the apps suck is there's a ton more men than women on them

>>34587773
That doesn’t sound like an autism symptom to me, that sounds normal. Girls don’t want extended contact with every guy they flirt with, especially if they’ve been drinking.
>>34587886
That doesn’t contradict what I said at all. It could be explained by there being more interested men than women at any given time.

>>34574891
The list is created by other men...
U guys need to stop worshipping the general public then saying shit like "normies"

>>34575118
Honestly if u want to look good with minimal effort buy shaka wear blanks in whatever color u want, then for bottoms either ball out and get armani, number(9) or any high end respectable raw denim or stacked jeans. If ur poor get work wear like carhart or dickies or true religion for jeans. Then for your shoes get any Jordan shoe he actually wore on the court (model) and u will complete a really casual modern fit that you can wear literally anywhere

Why do you goys think of the book game by rooshv?

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>>34587886

>>34588257
Beyond useless. Offers nothing you can't get better in Models. The two pickup lines he recommends to use in bars is:
>Let me guess: you're from... [location]
>You guys look like you're having the most fun of anyone here.

>>34588264
Sirbros...

>>34588283
Models is literally
>just bee yourself

>match
>she sends the first message
>respond
>nothing
What should I do? Normally I'd give up but I'm tempted to just drop a "hey!" or something

>>34588325
Show us the messages anon. The answer is probably to give up but let's see.
>>34588299
More like
>become the best version of yourself, then ask girls out.

>>34588283
>not being an avid practitioner of the Yad stop

It's no wonder you guys are all sexless incels.

>>34587977
>Girls don’t want extended contact with every guy they flirt with
Would I have been better off trying to hang out with her some more after? I seriously don’t know what to do in these settings, especially because she was with a friend, which is why I asked for her insta. If they don’t want extended contact, why even flirt in the first place? How can I tell which ones want dick that night versus wanting to see me on a later day?

>>34579805
More likely gained a purpose in the party, same as any other ideology and many people in the military across various nations.

When you have no purpose and someone gives you one, you become a fanatic because you were uplifted from a confusing quagmire into an easy to follow straight path.

If you want an easy way to this look at a few religions then pick one, easiest most inoffensive way to gain a purpose and pre-built outlook on life.

Religion was a staple in human history as far back as we recorded it for a reason, a lot of guys across millennia felt like this dude.

If he became a preacher he would have turned out better than being a nazi.

>>34588360
It was just a simple compliment, I said thanks, commented about something on her profile but I didn't frame it as a question though or anything and I think that's where I messed up

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I got a gf bros. Haven't had an actual gf since college. I'm 31, she just turned 33. She's friends with my best friend's wife. Things have been going well and it's only been 2 months.
We're both Christians and date for marriage. I think she'd be an awesome mom because she works in education. We've kissed, hold hands and she's very affectionate. I only see green flags, we talk on the phone often (never did this so much with a woman who wasn't my mom) and text every day. Only downside is she lives 90min away but she comes up and I go down often, and it makes us have long dates. She came over for memorial day and we spent like 10hrs together. She's even driven up on a weekday, which I appreciate. And she offers to pay for things sometimes (last weekend I drove down, she bought me lunch because I made the trip, I don't need this but I appreciate it).
I don't really have anything to add, any Christian guys have advice? We're going to spend time together on Thurs, Fri, and Sunday (and she's going to church with me.).

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Will I get banned from the sites if I use AI to help me a little?

What's the worst way you've been clowned/disrespected by a woman and how did you overcome it

>>34588708
You should cheat on your gf with your best friend's wife. Unironically.

>>34589025
>several years ago
>working shitty retail job
>coworker and I start talking, get her number, start going to lunch together, hanging out after work, phone calls at night etc
>just the typical escalation
>other guy coworker seems to be interested in her as well
>he starts acting super buddy-buddy with me, like in a very non-genuine way
>she starts texting me less
>get suspicious
>see them going to lunch together sometimes though she denies anything
>call her one night and I swear I heard him in the background, she's weirdly giggly
>he gets fired
>think now that he's "gone" this is my chance
>ask her out in a last ditch effort
>she agrees then cancels literally an hour before we were supposed to meet
>things get awkward at work
>she quits a while later
>a few months pass and a mutual friend/coworker confirms they were fucking while I was simping and buying her lunch

That's about the point I stopped giving a fuck about women. I'd been burned before but that was the time I let myself be like that. Now I just fuck women and throw them away afterwards.

Oh right,
>how did you overcome it

There wasn't really any overcoming it. I just let myself feel like shit for a bit and started over. Except like I said above I no longer "take things slow" with women or do all the flowery shit with them. Just fuck and discard.

predictably, I not only get more women, I also get more women who slightly obsess over me and badger me to "put a ring on it". not gonna happen.

Is tinder or hinge better for matching with college baddies?

>>34588444
Do you want to have a friendship with everyone you say hi too? Maybe she was just having fun. Or you passed her first round of screening but not the second. There was probably nothing you could do.
>How can I tell which ones want dick that night versus wanting to see me on a later day?
It’s not the 90s anon. I think you’re underestimating exactly how much of this game has moved to the apps. I mean if you were a girl and wanted to fuck, would it be a stranger you know absolutely nothing about other than what they present in a bar, or a stranger with an instagram attached to their tinder so you can have a little more confidence they won’t murder you?

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>>34574398

>>34589308
>Do you want to have a friendship with everyone you say hi too?
Admittedly no but I don't typically find people I have stuff in common with so whenever I do, I kinda latch onto them
>It’s not the 90s anon. I think you’re underestimating exactly how much of this game has moved to the apps
I mean this in the most literal way possible - out of all the women I've seen on tinder/hinge, I've swiped right on maybe 3-5% of them, some reluctantly at that. There are soooooooo many ugly women on these apps and when I'm at a bar or just out at night in general, I see so many more attractive women. You're telling me a lot of them wouldn't do casual sex? Where are the hot women having casual sex? Should I instagrammaxx? My dating profiles aren't bad, I'm tall, I'm white, I've been rated like an 8.5 on /soc/ (take that as you will I guess) but I seldom match with any attractive woman. I've matched and went on 1 date with a 6.5/10. All the other girls I've gone out with are 5s. What am I doing wrong

>>34589359
Not sure because that ratio sounds so unfamiliar to me. I find hot girls all over the apps wherever I am. If you'll drop the city name, or some city near you, you've actually got me curious about this land of no hot women (except in bars).

Your strategy sounds very 90s/2000s when women as a group didn't yet realize what pickup artists were doing. Their knowledge of that now coupled with many of them moving to apps makes bar pickups such an expensive and low likelihood game. I'd say your profile is probably lacking (likely in the photos) but if you're just not finding hot girls it doesn't matter anyway. Or maybe your standards are just really high.

>>34589395
Near Fresno California kek
>you've actually got me curious about this land of no hot women (except in bars)
I'm telling you man, I go to bars and I'd enthusiastically have sex with at least 15% of the women there
>Their knowledge of that now coupled with many of them moving to apps makes bar pickups such an expensive and low likelihood game
I can stomach the cost, it's like $30~ when I go out and is definitely worth it. I usually get approached by a woman when I go out. It's just that I don't know how to flirt, I don't know what to say to keep them interested, and I don't know how to take them home (or rather go back to her place lol)
>Or maybe your standards are just really high
They're a little high, sure, but I'm not punching far above my league. I'm 6'3'', fit, white, handsome, have many hobbies, make a lot of money and a lot of people say I'm funny

>>34589434
I’m going to go on hinge for Fresno tomorrow and see what I see.

Maybe someone else here could correct me but the majority of girls going to bars just want to have fun, and of the rest, the majority of those are going to want a date first, not go home with your right there. Have you tried just getting their phone number?

How do you bring up issues you have with a sensitive person without hurting their feelings?
I’ve got a friend who’s dear to me. Really hard-working, funny guy. However, I’ve been feeling tense the past couple months because, to put it bluntly, he whines CONSTANTLY. He’s extremely negative, even in situations that are supposed to be fun and light-hearted. We play D&D together, and he gets extremely huffy when the damage he does is resisted (and his numbers still well outpace the rest of the group), or we’ll play a shooter and he gets aggravated and yelly even in casual matches. It never seems like he’s actually enjoying himself.
I’m pretty sensitive myself, so I don’t know if it’s just a personal thing I need to get over, but I feel like I or other members of the friend group are constantly having to manage his emotions for him, and it’s really draining. He just takes criticism extremely personally, and I’m worried mentioning this would really fuck up our friendship.
I want to be there for him - he’s my friend, and he’s dealt with some really tough shit - but I also find myself tense and anxious about hanging out. Is it even worth bringing up? I’m at a bit of a loss and I’m not sure if there’s really a winning move to make.

>>34589587
Fuck, wrong thread. Please disregard, apologies for the trouble.

>>34589533
>Have you tried just getting their phone number?
I'm 25, I think it's more common to ask for an instagram around my age and younger, but I could be mistaken. I have gotten several instagram's before but it either doesn't go anywhere (has happened twice) or a girl approached me, I thought she was nice enough, she asks for my instagram, and then the next day I'm no longer interested because she wasn't really my type. Maybe I should just approach more. I've only done it twice and did get their contact but again, it didn't go anywhere but at least if it did, it would've been with a woman I'm actually attracted to

>>34588787
I see AI profiles all the time. However, don't do it anyway, people will notice

>>34588299
Models is good, but it could have been an Internet article, didn't need to be a book

Ultimately dating is easy on paper - take care of how you look, get some social skills, be someone of some sort status, boom, done. In practice women can pick whoever they want, so there's a fierce competition involved

>>34589395
>If you'll drop the city name, or some city near you, you've actually got me curious
I'm also curious where you are that the women are so app focused? It seems like in many places they've kind of gotten burned out on them and circled back around to more irl stuff, but not necessarily bars

>>34589104
Nah. Not my type and she's like a sister to me

>>34589118
Everyone in this story sounds miserable. Do normal niggers think living like this is good?

How do I fight the "like a brother to her" accusations?

>really good first date, went back to her apartment (hooked up heavy, didnt fuck)
>interest in seeing each other again
>schedules to do so are bad until like 2 weeks from now
How do I maintain her attention until the ?
I dont wanna come off clingy and be texting her every day or w/e

>>34589973
IF SHE WANTS TO SEE YOU SHE WOULD
why don't you guys understand this yet?

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im going to die alone.

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>>34589118
The Raped

>>34590028
This line of thought is misleading because most people, including those in relationships, die alone. You would be very lucky to die in bed with your spouse, most people die alone in the bathroom or alone in the hospital. However I understand the sentiment. I was really paranoid about dropping dead a few months ago and it brought me great sorrow thinking about how I could die without ever again feeling the embrace ive longed so much for.

>>34589973
>(hooked up heavy, didnt fuck)
So what happened, you went for stuff and she cut you off?

>>34589981
she gave sunday as a maybe, we both work atypical schedules until then, and then she goes on a trip next monday. Seemed honest about meeting up. We discussed shit to do.
>>34590171
I wanted to hook up in the car outside the bar, she said that felt weird, lets just go to her place, but no sex. I suspect I coulda got laid, or at least like head if I went for it, but I opted to play it cooler.

Going on a 1st date with a 31 year old 1.87m tall woman which seems Russian.
Wish me luck anons I'm 1.85m kek

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>>34588325
were you too serious?
were you too comical?
wait 2-3 days then write her off.
until then, breathe

>>34590336
You didn’t even try?

>>34590691
I tried, but didnt insist.
I can wait for date 2 or 3.

>a woman held the door for me
the tables have turned

>>34590735
https://voca.ro/18bzkDK63IQT

How much are you spending on 1st/2nd dates? Is it a red flag if she's suggesting rather expensive places (£50 sushi, avg ~£50 main course dishes) for the 2nd date? First date was this week, went rather well, spent maybe over £120 already. Don't want to feel like I'm being taken advantage of.

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so yall think no more mr nice guy is worth reading?

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What are good specific examples of where women are getting their dating advice from?
I don't talk to women and I want the opposition research so I know what to look out for

>>34591559
For a certain kind of guy yeah.

>>34591550
>walks are free
>$20 on the 2nd or 3rd date when I take them to the countryside
>$35 each for a sushi buffet. I pay if they are good women, and if I've been lonely (no social contact in 2+ weeks)
>I don't do coffee anymore. That's onions behavior imo
>sometimes they come over on the first date to bake cookies, pie, bread, etc

How do you stand out from the sea of average guys when it comes to dating? I have a better job than most, but nothing amazing. I'm in better shape than most, but nothing amazing. And I'm worse than average when it comes to charisma and looks probably. I can be funny but only with someone I kind of know.

But apart from financial support, literally what would I add to a woman's life? I'm a warm body to sleep next to, talk to, and go have experiences with. But there are literally oceans of men out there that can fit that role. So what should I do to stand out? Should I get a parrot? Should I get a motorcycle? How do people have time to be interesting when working, exercise, and all the rest take so much time?

>>34578838
Ok, casanova, how does one date while being broke?

>>34592102
Cyndi Lauper was right about women, anon.

>>34592102
You're overthinking it anon, you don't have to be a god to meet someone. You need to play the numbers game until you meet someone that you have chemistry/vibes/whatever with

>>34592102
Ask yourself what a woman has to offer you.

Ask what you can do for a specific woman. If you can't do anything for her (can't help her grow) then she's too good for you

Being a man is mostly about helping your woman grow, and vice versa.
Specific to a man's role,
>Be her unshakable emotional grounder.
>Her soldier so she doesn't *have* to work.
>Teach her about herself and she'll love you.
>Introduce her to the gym and math.
>Teach her what love means (devotion to constantly considering her best interests)

Most men cannot do any of this. They cannot articulate their emotions, they get mad, they are retarded, they are tyrants, they have no ambition.

This is your answer.

>>34593527
>>Teach her about herself and she'll love you.
What do you mean by this

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>>34593527
Spot fucking on. It took me more than a decade of dealing with women to figure this out. The fake feminist hyper-reality of "equal partnership" that many young men are fed is pure nonsense. The essential truth is that a relationship should be mutually beneficial, but that does NOT mean equality. As a man, you must provide emotional stability, leadership and "shelter" from the uncaring world outside. This essential truth is incidentally also just another reason that terminally online femcel trash rage against age gap relationships. Girls in these kind of relationships can more easily have their needs met and acknowledging that is simply too painful for them.

>>34593622
if a man is attuned to her, so much so that he can identify her behavior and thinking patterns, understand why she feels a certain way, and explain it to her, she'll feel noticed, known, and understood - loved.

most men cannot, or won't, do this

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>>34593682

5pm gents
women are outside communiting, waiting for the bus, walking alone
it's warm out too
now is the time to "cold approach"

wishing you luck!

>>34593527
>>34593682
What do you seek from a woman in terms of what they have to offer you?
>>34593684
Interesting, never thought about this.

>>34593527
>>34593682
>be her mommy, daddy, and bank
>and worship her while you're at it
>or you arent a real man

Lmao. Yeah fuck that.

>>34594278
I really don't get why people bother with cold approaching. Unless a woman signals she wants to be approached or you have an excuse to make small talk your success rate will be miniscule

>>34593527
>Being a man is mostly about helping your woman grow
This nigga out here being a life coach to get laid

>>34594335
It’s their way of raging against the fact that it’s not the 90s anymore and dating apps are now the standard. They’re like Gatsby insisting it’s ridiculous to suggest you can’t turn back the clock.

>>34591732
lurk female imageboards

>>34591559
If you put pussy on a pedestal then yeah you should.

>>34594354
People here shit on dating apps but it's basically the same thing minus time and effort, you get like 1 match in whoever knows how many left swipes

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>Dad was a pussy, mom wanted me to be a little boy forever, emotionally abusive af, get blamed for her tantrums
>spent formative years alone trying to figure out how not to force people to yell at me
>things fell apart with distant family
>can't even start to figure out how to hit on women without being a creep or seal the deal even when I can tell they like me (I'm fairly handsome and witty)
>this thread hasn't helped, no offence, I'm just such a social trainwreck none of it seems applicable... like trying to teach someone who can't speak english better handwriting.

I'm thinking I wish I had a father figure I could ask about this shit like I'm 13 and going through puberty, one who isn't threatened by the fact I'm growing up sexually, and can guide me and stuff, but won't help me be an exploitive pick up artist or something... I've mostly unlearned the bad stuff, but there's nothing left, you know? You hear people in movies saying things like "X was like a father to me!" and I want that so bad it hurts. Pic related... you usually see it in the context of "haha, black people!" but I really respect what he's doing and wish I knew someone like that. Getting in touch with my extended family went poorly.

Besides, my parents' marriage was a shitshow so I don't really know HOW to be a boyfriend once I have a girl.

>>34594323
t. never met or dated a great, inspiring woman

>>34594284
>What do you seek from a woman in terms of what they have to offer you?
She's strikes a similar balance as me
>Austere living, not a consumer
>has interesting knowledge like roman history and Greek mythology (I was really impressed with an ex who would teach me these things)
>she can turn on a normie mask and interact with them, teaching me along the way
>provide me with insights I hadn't considered
>inspires me with her physical and inner beauty and love
>she helps with logistics
>she can birth 2-3 children

is sorta the inverse of of a man's specialities - decent logistics, very good at love and interpersonal relationships, and mom duties

being with her should reduce stress and increase life enjoyment and achievement. Not the opposite. Only great women (and great men) can do this

>>34594343
Based nigga poster, your comments always lighten the mood

This is not a doomerpost about women: women are great and beautiful and I love them.
However, I am told that dead bedrooms are very common by the time women hit their 40s. But our sex-drive continues practically to the end. How does one reconcile this?
I'm debating just sticking with escorts

>>34594443
Are you that guy who keeps posting about dead bedrooms all the time despite not getting laid? The dead bedroom thing is tied to women getting bored with being plowed by the same guy all the time

>>34594463
No. I don't know who you're talking about. I've posted about it only once before in /atoga/.

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>>34589533
>>34589434
Alright I did it. This the best I found in like 50 swipes. Yeah that's pretty bad. There were plenty of 7s, but if you're really 8.5 I guess that's not enough for you. I'm rating faces by the way. There were plenty of great bodies.

Just thinking here, I'm guessing the true 9/10s date guys they know or have friends introduce them to or that they meet and really hit it off with. So probably luck to a large extent.

>>34594443
I was in a dead bedroom for a long time. I was a part of dead bedroom forums and did a lot of research trying to fix the issue. A lot of men out there are the ones losing interest in sex. It's not just women. Men get addicted to porn, they lose their testosterone, or maybe the lose attraction to their wife once she gets older and fatter. Either way it's not just women.

>>34593527
I don't think your post is wrong. But that is more how to act once you are in a relationship. And that isn't very had unless you have nothing going for you. The part that is hard for me is the initial attraction step. I can make more money, know more life skills, etc. But that doesn't make me attractive, it just makes me a better partner. And let me tell you my ex relied on me for so much but she didn't really care about that in the end, she still left.

>>34594395
The girl I’m currently dating liked me on hinge first. 0 time, 0 effort, 0 left swipes. Cold approach fags could never.

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>>34594335
I like the thrill

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I'm having a hard time with this girl I'm seeing in that I'm too chicken-shit to initiate anything physical.

>Been on 4 dates already
>She's patient, attractive, wicked smart, and only leans slightly conservative politically
>Spend 6-8 hours each time just talking to each other
>Super receptive, feel very safe in gushing on autistic things I think are cool. She just smiles and asks questions about them.
>Have touched on the topic of sexuality in conversation
>Puh-retty sure that if I tried anything she'd be receptive
>Still haven't kissed yet

I'm still kinda new to the dating scene: it's been about 3 years since I was divorced and I'm really trying to get some reps into this experience. Just can't quite figure out why I feel my cortisol levels rising when I even think about initiating something when she's right in front of me.

About a year ago I traded nudes with a girl I really liked but she was from the US and I wasn't. I messed shit up really badly and I feel guilty because this was actually the closet I've ever been with a woman and I mistreated her. Aside from that I'm a KHHV.

How over is it for me? How can I forgive myself?

>>34594906
>4 dates
Anon, I...

What exactly was the context of this "talking"? Was there a table between you two or were you doing something else?

If you want to make her your girlfriend after how many dates do things start "happening" toward that end, like saying I like you or discussing a potential future

>>34594503
>I'm guessing the true 9/10s date guys they know or have friends introduce them to or that they meet and really hit it off with
So I should focus more on irl then? How do I be more flirtatious in my speech? I think I'm lacking in that regard and I focus too much on interviewing whoever it is I'm interested in

>>34595222
>So I should focus more on irl then?
I'd still do the apps myself and just hold out. Or leave California lel.
>How do I be more flirtatious in my speech? I think I'm lacking in that regard and I focus too much on interviewing whoever it is I'm interested in
You need to actually become a playful, fun, almost childlike person in general, not just when you're trying to pick up hot girls. Flirtatious speech will become more of a habit than an act.

As for where you're getting the speech, observe other people for ideas, listen to comedians and watch movies and TV shows. You're probably not good at coming up with stuff yourself so mimic what you see that works.

>>34595381
>You need to actually become a playful, fun, almost childlike person in general
I'm already like this tho. Should I just get out of my head over the fear of saying something stupid? I think that's my issue; I'm afraid of expressing romantic interest out of fear of rejection

>>34575068
can give you my own 2 cents on personal experience. I had no direction or idea, first I went to the gym. next once with muscle I wore good fitting shirts. then i experimented and realized I liked baggier pants. finally I got some nice shoes and worked to make flattering color matches between the outfits. I realized what style I liked over time (alt/skater style just not comfortable enough to hard lean into it) and slowly made small outfit changes rather than throwing my wallet at the problem. start taking pictures of things you like, and as you are going about your daily life and shopping keep mental note of what you dont like. you will slowly develop a sense of personal style and learn to tailor that to yourself and match it up with societal norms.

>>34578593
>You have to be model tier in looks if you want women to approach you or initiate anything with you in general.
this just isnt true, ive had quite a few women approach me and im not attractive lmao

>>34595381
>and just hold out
from talking to girls???

>>34594906
I'm sorry anon but you have to man up and just do it, 4 dates with no kiss will make her think you're either not interested or too shy. Invite her to your place, play with her hair and kiss her. None of us can help you do that. Worst case scenario she'll say she likes you as friend in which case you won't waste any more time with her. If you think about it, you can't lose unless you do something spectacularly stupid like force yourself on top of her or something
>>34595083
Post date 3 and post sex. You wait until a girl asks you to be exclusive (if she's into you, she'll do that soon). After that, it just sort of happens

best way to get laid on holiday. seems the best since you've got a hotel and there's no strings attached.

>>34594335
>I really don't get why people bother with cold approaching.

It's the best way of dating women above your league (other than social circles but let's be honest, guys on here aren't running around in social circles with lots of hot chicks). On dating apps you will pretty much always be dating women 1-2 points below yourself unless you get really lucky.

>>34594354
>and dating apps are now the standard.

They really aren't. Most women aren't even on dating apps especially the really attractive ones that aren't sluts cruising for random cock. Their peak was in the mid-10s and it was a gradual fall off from there.

>>34595496
Probably yeah then, you’re gonna have to get over that fear if you’re going to pick up in real life. That’s your problem. Models has some good stuff on this.
>>34595635
Hold out for a hot girl on the apps.

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>>34596158
Yes they are, Gatsby.

>>34596158
>It's the best way of dating women above your league (other than social circles but let's be honest, guys on here aren't running around in social circles with lots of hot chicks). On dating apps you will pretty much always be dating women 1-2 points below yourself unless you get really lucky.
Plently of attractive women on the apps willing to go on a date, but I do agree picking up someone above your league is easier IRL. Still, vast majority of women won't appreciate being approached by a complete stranger

>>34593527
from my experience, this is a great way to stay a kissless virgin. like anoter anon said in a reply, this is what you do once you are IN a relationship, not before. Women do not and never will base their attraction on how useful you are. Throughout my life I've helped lots of women, introduced them to the gym, basically life coached them, gave them actionable advice that directly improved their lives, etc etc. And they always always always with no exception did not become attracted to me because i did these things. They would go for a random guy that just popped in, had seemingly no prospects, ambitions etc. Because they were attracted to him physically.

For example this one girl during my bachelor's study, had no friends, was always alone etc. I reached out to her, introduced her to some other people and girls i knew at uni, she wanted to start going to the gym, so i helped her since i am a pretty big guy (for you), made her a program etc. I helped her figure out what she wanted to do after uni, helped her apply for internships, she got one, was very happy. Took her to a few operas and concerts since she liked classical music but was always too embarrassed to go alone.

And then some random guy hit on her one day at the gym (i didn't go to her gym past the first few times since it was far away, i just showed her the ropes), she instantly said yes and started dating him. The guy was apparently a NEET who only went to the gym to pick up chicks (he was so out of shape he couldnt even do her program), and his dad had a lot of money so he just spent all day driving around with his dad's BMW. Oh and he was like 15 years older than her, in his late 30s.

I'm not saying this as some blackpilling incel story, i am too autistic to exlect relationships and i exlected nothing from her, this was just an example to show you how being useful, a life-coach type man for women, has nothing to do with them being attracted to you.

I created a hinge account at 27 and noted that the default age range is 21-35
Why do they think it's not ok to date someone 7 years younger (20yo) but it's perfectly ok to date someone 8 years older as a man?

>>34596900
what do you plan on achieving through reporting the double standards and failures of the modern dating market? do you think that if you make enough posts on 4chan about how women are childish and hypocrites and shallow, that the powers that be will go "ahh he got us, send a 20 year old blonde virgin girl his way"?

yes. you are right. there there. does it feel better now that a mid 20s virgin agreed with you? it doesn't fucking matter if you're right. that's the state of affairs. you either learn how to win with the dice loaded against you or you lkse. thats it

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>>34596839
>>34594626
yes, I will have to write another post on the before stages

with my post, I latched on to
>what would I add to a woman's life?
not,
>How do you stand out from the sea of average guys when it comes to dating

And you're totally correct. There is a line between disgusting simp behavior, being a tyrant, and being indifferent to her.

It is 100% up to you to spot qualities in women you date. Was there anything flaky about her that lead to her fucking some out of shape neet? Did you never see the sparkle in her eyes when she looked at you? That is a quality you must see.

She must see you as her leader, see you as ruthless, be afraid of your judgements, even though you love her and do not demand her to follow you

That only seems to happen with fate/chemistry.

>>34596900
SHE WAS 17 LESS THAN 3 YEARS AGO YOU SICK FUCK

Women are icky. They think they are impressive traveling to a tourist area in another country and achieving nothing.

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>>34596900
They just assume most people won't be interested in someone much older or much younger than them. Just change it in the settings, my Tinder is 18-80 and I barely see people over 40

>>34597381
Makes me wonder how many 18-20 year olds have their settings set for 32. Brb.

>>34597480
At 34 I see a good number of 18-20 year olds, doubt it'll look different for you

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>>34597480
Oh hey Fresno anon, found one of those hot girls you were looking for. She’s 20.

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>>34597488
Nevermind she doesn’t count.

Okay only 15 within 40 miles of me, and my metro is 1 million.

>>34597499
I know in this economy so might view getting cash as an unusual activity, but what the fuck

>>34597488
That's a 10/10 Stacy and impossible to match with unless you're also a 10/10 chad and if that's the case, she'll do it for free anon