is it really that bad of a plan to just focus on caloric intake and accept getting skinny fat first before beginning the whole lifting and watching macros thing to build muscle?

Guys I've been bedrotting and binging TV all day and forgetting to eat. I think this is the secret

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>>77192829
Get a standing desk and a walking pad and replace bedrotting with walking while you binge TV/vidya/4chan all day, AND THEN forget to eat.

>>77192835
I do want one

Finally committed to the journey at the start of this month. Cut out both beer (probably the culprit for a lot of my weight gain) and pop. Downloaded cronometer, started tracking my caloric intake (1000 calorie deficit) and I’m at the gym every other day. So far I’m down 8lbs since Apr 1. 298>290 at 6’0.

Fully expect the weight loss to slow down after I become less of a fatfuck, but it’s nice to see progress right off the bat.
Any tips to someone starting out that you wish you knew when you started?

>>77192824
day 5 of no antidepressants. i gained like 15 fucking pounds in 4 months after starting it and i look like shit. need to get back on track

>>77192835
>standing desk

this is a meme, standing burns like 10 calories extra an hour compared to sitting

>>77192858
The whole point is the walking pad which burns more

>>77192858
Each hour of walking you do burns an additional 150~200kcals, walking all day is the best way to augment weightloss. You won't even know you're doing it.

>>77192828
A week not lifting is a week wasted. You don't have to give a shit about caloric intake or macros to make gains as a dyel.

>>77192853
8 lbs in five days...?

>>77192862
10 bodyweight squats every hour in an eight hour period is the equivalent of walking 10,000 steps per day

>>77192870
Proof?

>>77192866
Yes I don’t understand why I’m losing weight so fast unless I’m doing something wrong with calculating my BMR. The one thing I’m not sure of is the “Baseline Activity” in the app. I have it set at sedentary, but maybe I should adjust it to “Moderately Active” since I’m working out multiple times a week

>>77192889
Could just be water

>>77192870
why not just do 80 squats

>>77192893
That’s what I was thinking since I have noticed myself looking less bloated in the mirror. It’s not like I’ve fasted for the whole month so far and I definitely don’t have 6+ hr gym sessions, so majority of it is probably water and maybe 1-2 lbs is actual fat. I don’t think it’s possible to burn 28,000 calories in under a week.

How do you guys feel about the GLP drugs?

>>77192870
I have a very hard time believing this.

Mounjaro is fucking useless
I need to cut at 500 cals to lose weight
my metabolism is shot to hell and I'm barely losing body weight
I need to eat whatever I want and burn 7 kilos a month

>>77192902
they are better than nothing
I'm sure they're supremely useful for normal fatoids unlike me
these normal fatoids drop 10 kilos in 3 months on Mounjaro

>>77192853
>6'
>290lbs
Give me your age, neck (below adam's apple) and waist (navel level) measurements. I suspect you have high fat oxidation threshold that goes along with your already high BMR.

>>77192929
yes, this is correct
my fat is fused to my bones or some shit
48 fucking inches at the navel but I'm only 231lbs

>>77192944
post body

>>77192945
I am fat and hideous

>>77192946
so is everyone else here, post body

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>>77192881

Anyone know any good low calorie high volume recipes?
I enjoy savory foods if that helps.

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>>77192947
This is from when I was 52"
real old photo but it's still the same
I posted this on /fat/ in '18
I'm a permaFAT

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Man, it's definitely a mental challenge when your weight loss begins to slow (trend from 1 - 93ish is steeper than the trend from 93-current) and the weight spikes hit.
I definitely struggle with pooping regularly. I try to get enough fiber, but I think I've spent so long eating trash that I've trained my body to not poop regularly. It's fucked. So I get some weird weight gains that kind of go away after a big ol shit.
Overall happy with progress - started at 120kg (only started tracking at 116 - the first 4kg came off in like 1 or 2 days though so who cares about that).
Caloric deficit and walking is all it took. Mad that it took me this long (42yo) to do this. Been a fat cunt my whole life. Also, if you do walking, look into rucking (walking with heavy shit in a backpack). It definitely takes it to the next level.

>>77192957
you dont look bad anon, cute even

>>77192962
it's even worse now
sure I'm just 4 inches smaller but my fat distribution is beyond pozzed
I have zero doubts I will end up looking like an XXY pear when I eventually lose all the excess fat
just my fucking luck

>>77192965
none of that is permanent though, you can always build some muscle to masculinize your frame.

>>77192965
>>77192966
THIS
honestly just hit some OHP, Curls, and some kind of heavy chest workout and you'll be lookin juicy in no time
throw in some sit ups and squats for stability and you're golden boy

>>77192944
Sounds about right. You're likely sitting at 30%+ BF and you probably have FOR at near 3k.

So 1 day of dehydrating causes my body to store roughly 2 litres of water to piss out 4 days later

I always find it funny how crap modern chocolate tastes after a prolonged period without it.

>>77193029
Where are you accessing retro chocolate to compare it to?

Food addiction is real.
Sugar addiction is real.
Also all of these are directly connected with mental health.

>>77193033
My memories. Chocolate used to be delicious and creamy after an absence, now it just tastes like waxy sugar.

>>77193019
>FOR
wots that

>>77193036
By the way, I'm comparing old Cadbury’s to modern Cadbury's, you can still get proper chocolate but it costs a small fortune now.

>>77193038
Fat Oxidation Rate

>>77193036
Rose-tinted fatness goggles

>>77193042
wtf
I can burn close to my TDEE in one hour?
I forgot

This is addiction. People are eating to get their daily happiness fix. These people are depressed, sad, broken. Food is their only comfort, only source of happiness. It's always, easily available; especially sugar. Also mental health too plays big role in this. If your mental health is broken you are way much more prone to leave yourself into the comfort of sugar.

where the fuck can I get GLP shit that doesnt cost an insane amount without insurance. I hate my life so much

>>77192787
>and sleep apnea,
>Piss easy to lose weight now.
what did you to for it and how did it help?

>>77193035
Can confirm. I got diagnosed as psychotic by mistake and got on Risperidone to combat "autistic irritability"/rumination, which that had the side effect of shutting up food noise. I went from fighting every second of the day to stay within 1500 kcal to effortlessly restricting below 1000.

Sadly, I had a bigger problem of being seen as not being sound of mind, switched doctors and the treatment was stopped. Now I'm back to feeling like everything I do all day every day is just a distraction from hunger.

>>77193060
u have to be fat enough to be eligible

Overwhelming anxiety, delusions, regret and frustration make it so difficult to avoid acts of finding comfort in food and stuffing themselves with food until starting to feel numb. They may also recklessly (and obsessively) spend money and have anger issues.

>>77193094
Why are you speaking about yourself in third person.

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>>77193043
No its not just nostalgia, most chocolate is unironically worse now because chocolate got a lot more expensive and most major bars use fewer cocoa fats per bar than they did 10~20 years ago, instead opting to use vegetable oils or synthetic additives because they're cheaper, so the bar is just as fatty calorie wise but it doesn't have the same volatile flavor compounds found in genuine cocoa fats leading to a bar that's waxy and doesn't taste as chocolatey.

If you want real chocolate you end up buying specialty brands for double or triple the cost of a major bar. Basically if the bar of chocolate is <$10 its probably fake bullshit.

>>77192957
Dayum that is some unlucky genetics

Man can protein powder go bad really soon after it’s exp date
Put some into some overnight oats and damn this shit tastes SOUR, not repulsive, maybe it’s the Greek yogurt too mixing with that can’t tell

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>>77193114
>after it’s exp date

>>77193114
how long after
how was it stored

Do you guys ever tried fasting? I feel like it's easier to commit to it for a month than just cutting 500-1000 kcal for 6 months, but I might be wrong.

>>77193166
You are wrong

>>77193166
Its a useful tool, but not something to replace regular dieting. You can't fast long term as your entire diet plan. I find its useful to 'reset' if I ever start getting powerful cravings, a fast kills my appetite like nothing else, after the first day or two all my cravings are gone, ect. That said my performance at the gym is also killed when I fast, I recover slower, I feel lethargic, my lifts all stall out or even decrease. Its obviously not ideal.

Fatty Contest
Eumenes
98.8 kg
193cm

forgot how easy cutting is

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Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 90.6 kg

Overall Progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAEWghw_j7s

I've been stuck at ~185 lbs at 5'10. I really don't like how I feel when cutting significant calories at this weight, but I also want to be more visibly muscular. If I just keep eating the same but working out 3-4 days a week, will I eventually look decent at this weight or should I just put up with feeling weaker/more tired until I reach my goal weight (165) and then bulk from there?

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>>77192835
i want a walking pad so badly :(
>>77193212
good song, keep it up dzonathan

yesterday and today were both good days :) i ate only a little

hope u guys have a nice day

I am very strict and disciplined for like couple of months to a year and then i shit myself for couple of days or weeks and then i start over again. By shitting myself i mean in everything work/life/sleep/food i binge 5k+ calories and so on. I am still making progress in the long term but i dunno. I think i should just embrace the fact that my slip ups are normal and try to contain it as much as possible.

>>77193237
I still managed to lose weight from 100kg to 63 but yeh. I today i cant control myself. From tomorrow i will up to maintanance calories for some time and go a bit easier on myself until i get back to the system. I have to minimize the damage it's quite bad my system got damaged. Ughhh... but i am sure i will get back on track not like i have a choice

I'm glad I got fat

>>77193250
But why

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>>77193252
nta but im also glad i got fat
im fortunate enough for my fatness to not stem from trauma or stress, just a long time being lazy surrounded good food and friends
the journey was fun, but its over now
ill get skinny, and do it all over again...in moderation

>>77193252
I'm on HRT now and I realize I was born to be a sissy bottom with soft squishy thighs
if I never got fat I might have gotten laid with females and then I'd never end up finding my true self
oh FUCK YEAH HRT WEAPONIZE MY FAT AND TURN ME SOFT AND SQUISHY

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>>77192929
Early 30s, 17.5” where a tie would sit and 45” at my bellybutton.
Just posting the pic cause some random dude replied to you and not me

>>77193238
that sucks. same thing happened to me. i did a long fast and i think it messed up my system a bit. appetite isn't normal. energy levels wrong. gonna get some health food from the store in a couple hours and try to make sure it doesn't happen again.

i need to work on having a more stable cycle. once the pattern is locked in it will be easier to maintain. like right now i feel like i need a nap and another shower just to get through today.

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>>77192824
>nuns
and OP, who was NOT a faggot,

>>77192824
What's a good breakfast that requires zero cooking? Currently i'm eating cookies and milk and manage the other meals to stay in my macros, i wanted to switch to something with less shitty fats but i don't want to cook in the morning.

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>>77192787
bruh ur response to some anon going to the doc, getting checked out, and getting their shit fixed is "thats why i take a multi"?? not only is that a waste of money, but youre not "keeping your levels at baseline", thats not how supplememts work. you are merely adding SOME amount of a micronutrient. this often results in users getting too much of a micronutrient, or still too little if they are suffering from something giving them a deficiency. for example, if you have an iron deficiency, a multi will take FOREVER to replenish your levels and WILL NOT fix whatever caused the deficiceny in the first place. and no vitamin will undo the effects of something like sleep apnea, which prolly half of the guys here have.

if you take a multi instead of going to a doc, youre shooting yourself in the foot

Damn I whooshed yesterday. So that's what it's like. All of a sudden I started pissing like crazy out of nowhere even though I had drank not nearly enough water yesterday. Now the scale is down 5 pounds this morning.

>>77193297
man i keep hyperlinking the wrong posts lately. meant to reply to >>77192791

I wanna fug the nuns

i'm sorry i haven't been more helpful to you guys. we're all gonna make it.

>>77193298
thats so interesting. my whooshes were always shit haha.

>>77193291
ready-to-eat bfast cereals with milk
granola with yogurt
toaster pastries
overnight oats
dinner/lunch leftovers
bagel with cream cheese/hummus/avocado

>but my macros
theres protein enriched and low carb versions of all of these but you can also just eat a small bfast and drink a protein shake, or just have the shake, or add protein powder directly to your bfast if its wet bfast

>>77193264
>if I never got fat I might have gotten laid with females and then I'd never end up finding my true self
ironically most people i talk to say that doing straight things made them convert sooner

btw hrt will make your thighs squishy no matter what. getting fat is bad even for sissy bottoms. stop using gender identiy as an excuse for needlessly stuffing your face. go hug your stuffie and then tmrw start working out and eating sensibly so u end up actually hot and happy

>>77193315
yesss I will
and doing 'straight things' just backfired over and over again because this is what I did with girls
>sent selfies with my head wrapped in a towel and pouting or wearing miniskirts unironically or blowing my finger or fuck knows what else
I was born to fem out

I was able to take a few months off and tried to maintain without counting calories since December.
The scale is within .2lbs of my before weight, so pretty successful in being mindful of input vs output and not binging like a fat retard
Now to go for the finish line. My goal is 180 and currently at 208. Hoping to be there by this time next year

starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8
current weight: 85.7 kg 7/4
goal weight: 70 kg
height: 179 cm

method: rolling 72s with water and coffee, starting on 18/1 to 2/3 i did rolling 48s.

I hate this shit so much it is literally impossible to lose weight I just binged

>>77193424
30 kilos in less than three full months lmao this general is full of lying subhumans

Fatty contest
oldskinnyfatbastard
173 lbs
6’1”

>>77193429
One day of binging wont kill you, just do better tomorrow

>>77193429
Define binge
Ate at maintenance? No progress was lost
Ate at double maintenance? You delayed your weight loss journey by like 2 days
Just make sure it doesnt happen again

>have a week where I walk 10k steps every day and eat no cheat meals
>following Tuesday, hop on the scale first thing in the morning after emptying self
>265lbs
>following week, extremely fatigued
>dial back the cardio to just 30-40 minutes of 3mph incline walks a day
>have an absolute shit ass weekend eating burgers and cakes and pizza because of family and friends dragging me with them to restaurants even though they know I'm dieting
>this morning, after emptying myself
>258lbs
This weight loss thing don't make a lick o sense

I overate this morning and I'm nauseous. I didn't overeat calories but the volume and density of the food was too much

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>>77192953
If You are willing to try something out of your cultural norms, Look, you could try a simple galeretka. Think of it like a solid soup. You could make a low calorie chicken soup and then just add a bunch of unflavored gelatin to it. It will set like jello and firmness and water content and volume will keep you full.

>>77193114
It could definitely be the Greek yogurt. Some are more sour than others.

>>77193447
How many times are you going to post this with different variations

>>77193447
>if I ignore everything and only point out what I observe then it doesnt make sense
midwit retard

>>77193462
That is everything though lmao. What you want me to start tracking my calories from breathing now too?
Let me guess you're one of those unhelpful types that responds to every plateau post with
>erm acktually you miscalculated your caloric intake snort *adjusts glasses*
Even though that's wrong and bad advice

>>77193446
>Ate at double maintenance? You delayed your weight loss journey by like 2 days
If you eat an extra 2400 calories on a -500 deficit that is almost 5 days

>>77193473
no you ignore water retention and flushing from sodium levels
you ignore inflammation water retention
you are a midwit thinking about how shit makes no sense on small scale when all you need to do is eat less and move more and you will lose weight eventually

I don't know I don't believe fuck it's all a lie once you're fat it's over the fat has nowhere to go it won't just delete itself it's biological flesh and blood it's fucking staying everything is a lie people do not lose weight they are all liars lying to me me me, me

>>77193060
Glp1forum

Fatty Contest
Joey
306 lbs

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Just had 2 burgers and a shake. It's OVER!

>>77193291
Meal prep Greek yogurt mason jars. As much yogurt as you want, flax, chia or hemp hearts, jam (regular or no sugar added). I do it in 8 oz jars with 2% yogurt and it comes out around 200 cal. I make 5 for the week on Sunday nights.
You can also meal prep egg/potato/veggie bites but you’ll need (want) to at least microwave them in the morning

>>77192953
You can go pretty wild on soups. It’ll be difficult to not feel full off 4 cups of good broth (100-200 cal, it can vary a lot), never mind the meat, veggies, noodles, potatoes etc you’d add in. And that is a massive bowl of soup. Make a leek and potato soup with just potato for thickening (no cream) and you’ll have something that feels creamy and indulgent but is only like 300 cal for a bowl. Potatoes are very satiating for the amount of calories.

Dry pop popcorn is also good. If you get the timing right you can get a little seasoning to stick just with the steam from the kernels. Or do something weird like sprinkle hot sauce on top.

>>77192824
Was 181 this morning. Will be under 180 after two workouts. First time in 17 years. Gotta go get oil changed in my pickup. I will not be enjoying the complementary popcorn and soda.

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Fasting Fun Facts for you:

Fasting for weight loss hits serious diminishing returns as you try and push longer cycles because there are fewer eating days to cut out of any particular month. Shorter fasting cycles also mean you can fit more cycles in the same month, meaning they remain competitive with longer cycles. For example, 120 hour fasting gains 5 cumulative extra days across cycles in a month, but 96 hour fasting gains an additional cycle meaning 4 extra fasting days, leading to only a 1 day difference between the strategies.

Rolling alternate day fasting or 24 hour fasts are equivalent to one of the most severe deficits recommended for daily calorie reduction which is usually no more than half your TDEE. You may as well just ADF, you at least get one full eating day when you do eat.

Rolling 48 hour fasts are likely the sweet spot between difficulty to maintain and rate of weight loss.

There is nearly no reason to go beyond rolling 96 hour fasts due to massive diminishing returns unless you for some inexplicable reason decide to go all in on full month fasts, which are definitely not sustainable.

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>>77193594
Follow up visualization of the fall off as you try and eat on fewer and fewer days per month

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>>77193594
I fasted for 10 days last month and lost a bunch of weight. Definitely more than twice as much loss compared to when I did a 5 day fast before. Your info is gay and retarded

>>77193599
Failure to account for muscle loss, all food and waste cycled through your system, water weight, and you being retarded with leveling a scale and/or purchasing a shitty scale.
In other words local weight loss is variable for a number of reasons and you need to look at progression over longer terms, months preferably.

>>77193214
> will I eventually look decent at this weight
You won't, eat less fatty.

I see a lot of fatties crash out once they hit 'normal' weights, but its trap, you want to be lean, 12~15% body fat, keep going, you're not there yet. Once you're at 15% bf then you can start thinking about your next steps.

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1 month progress report, not gonna call victory and I know I got ways to go but it’s nice to see the man boobs receding

>>77193364
hey u kno what a lot of girls like that so u do u

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lads... that packet of pistachios had 1500 kcal in it

how often do you guys weigh in? is it even worth weighing in weekly on a small deficit?

>>77193649
face looking better already
good progress

>>77193680
Yeah at least weekly or else you wont even know if you're losing
Thats why small deficits are the worst, hard to know if you're even in a deficit because of water in your body

>>77193680
I weigh in every 5 days since my diet is aggressive.
For you, weekly weigh ins are worth it. You should probably not do daily unless you want to see a rollercoaster in your stats.

why did nobody tell me about fish? ive been eating rockfish and flounder all week, smashing my macros and feeling great
>spanish rice with barely any oil or and no broth, lots of garlic
>seer rockfish with half a tsp olive oil, takes like 4 minutes
>toss random green in the pan and reheat rice in pan, no added oil
perfect dinner everyday. im cruising bros

>>77193691
something something high in mercury
it's good eating tho.

>>77193691
Nobody told you about fish because you should have learned this stuff in gradeschool and/or from your parents
Fish exists, and you can eat them

>>77193691
alri billionaire-kun, take it easy

>>77193697
my parents are retards and i went to public school

>>77193680
i do it daily, usually even after every piss
i did overreact in the past as well because my weight would randomly go up and stay up
stepping on the scale is fast but estimating your calorie intake is way more important

204 even after a day and a half of shitting nothing but liquid and throwing up every I ate yesterday.

5'5". Grim.

Truly, even being able to do hundreds of pushups can never bridge the gap of being fat as fuck.

>live in coastal state
>all grocer fish is imported (fucking why) and expensive as hell
>meanwhile redneck friends go out on boat, catch a gorillion fish and freeze them
I need to get in on this action bros. the lean protons are insane out here

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>>77193272
That's what I got out of your numbers.

8lbs = 3.6kg
3.6kg / 5 = 0.720g

Looks like 50:50 split between glycogen and fat to me.

>>77193683
Thanks man

Had my Easter feast, 1200 calories above maintenance but exposed my dehydrated ass and scale-chan went up 5 pounds on me

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did not eat today

>>77193749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8eT45Hlli0

>>77192870
No it isn't

>>77192870
powershitter mentality

I have 1 lb of 88/12 ground beef thawing in the fridge for tomorrow. What should I make with it? I don't want to go over 1500 calories for the day and this is going to be my only meal. I was thinking either nachos or smash burgers. I'm not afraid of carbs, in fact I need them because I'm doing alternate day fasting so tomorrow's meal has to carry me until Friday.

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Weird feeling but food has become kind of boring for me.

>>77193594
Question about this. In this spreadsheet, if I eat one meal on Monday then don't eat again until Wednesday, is that the first line of these charts (1-1 24 hours) or is it the second like (1-2 48 hours)? Because that's exactly what I'm doing and I'd like to get an idea of how fast I'll lose weight if I can do that for 6 months. Thanks.

>>77193840
1-1 = 1 day eating followed by 1 day fasting. So Monday = eat, Tuesday = fast, Wednesday = eat...repeat.

>>77193649
What's the paint brush for?

>>77193800
Take half and onion, mince until fine, about .5cm pieces. 3-4 cloves of garlic, mince fine as well. Mix that, salt, pepper with beef. Divide beef into 4 equal size balls, shape into patties, onto the pan with .5tbsp butter, sear until desired doneness.

Pickles, tomatos, lettuce have practically no calories. Buns are about 200 cals each, I would skip buns and eat all the meat instead. Goes well with a1 sauce or whatever really.

>>77193855
Really? That's shitty. It doesn't really make sense either because like if you think about it say you eat OMAD Monday at noon. Then you fast and don't eat again until Wednesday at noon. How many hours fasting is that? It sure as shit isn't 24 hours.

>>77193721
Fuck yeah, fishing is enjoyable too. A nice excuse to get out and take a little walk and soak up some sun.
If you don't have gear try and asks friends alor relatives and maybe you can get some free shit, you really don't need much to catch fish just don't get caught up in gear collection lol

>>77193732
Saved. Will keep it as a reference. The BMR and TDEE are pretty close to the numbers I have, Going to go get a body composition scan at some point this week, so I can get an accurate bf %. Thanks anon

>>77193861
You're overthinking it and even more so trying to game it. Over a 24 hour time period your daily calorie requirement is roughly 2k calories if you're an average healthy man.

Assume instead you start eating exactly at Monday's beginning at 12:00am. You eat your daily 2k calories for the day in one meal (or across the day), that's meant to last you the entire 24 hours of Monday. You then don't eat any food come 12:00am Tuesday over the entire day.

Anyway the intention of that fasting chart is more about overall days spent fasting and not trying to maximize fasting time for the sake of saying "I didn't eat for 30 hours straight!!!!" or autophagy or whatever. It's about managing calorie intake over long periods of time.

>>77193881
I get what you mean now yeah. In my example, the calories eaten Monday at noon cover me until Tuesday at noon then from that point I'm fasted and that lasts 24 hours until Wednesday at noon. Damn man this starvation shit is hard no wonder ever fatty fails save for like 5%. Even eating every other day gives less results than I thought. Shit sucks.

>>77193896
Yeah, it's very difficult, especially initially, not arguing on that point at all. Fasting just has very favorable weight loss math --if-- you can manage it.

>>77193114
I had some whey powder 2 years past expiration with no issues, but I bet if stored improperly it can go bad early. It's also possible you got a bad batch, nothing's perfect.

>>77193680
Every two days or so/whenever I take a shower (already undressed, scale's right there, why not). It's worth it to see the number go down, even if it's a half pound, it shows you're making progress.

35 more pounds and I will have finally escaped the 300+ for the first time since I was 18 (12 years ago).

>>77193953
Nice, keep at it.

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I was today years old when I found out that you're supposed to be able to clasp your hands behind your back like this. My shoulders are fucked because I can't even get close to both hands touching

>>77193970
just tried.
I could, but my arms are pretty skinny and I have a hard time doing this.

>Been lifting on and off for years
>Huge body weight swings
>in the last 7 years I've been 160lbs -> 175 -> 190 (fit) -> 180 (skinny fat) -> 225 (strongfat, could deadlift 405 but probably 30% BF) -> 190 (skinnyfat)
>5 year old daughter asks me why I have boobs
>Begin 1100 or less total calories and 160g protein diet
>Give up alcohol and dairy in my coffee
>start focusing on cardio and calisthenics vs lifting
>sauteing 96% beef/shrimp/turkey with leafy greens, mushrooms and onions in water for dinner every night
>Greek yogurt with SF Pudding mix
>weekly budget for this is <$50
>down from 193 to 186 in a week

This is for you baby girl. Nobody deserves a fat dad.

>>77193975
>he thinks strongfat is an actual thing

>>77193975
>5 year old daughter asks me why I have boobs
Crushing
Iktf bro

>>77193299
that's because you're retarded. don't think too hard.

>>77193857
Was making a Pikmin costume and needed to paint the leaf

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Holy shit i feel so fucking hungry, i went from 253 to 202lbs by just omading and this shit still isnt easy. by the time i have dinner i just start craving all sort of shit. and i cant buy certain food cuz i get really "hungry" because of risperidon + seroquel. is there any fucking way to make this at least manageable?

>>77193970
I can do this with my right arm up no problem but going up with the left is impossible

>>>77192609
FatWicker good progress!
Been following your weigh ins on the FC for a while now as our dimensions are similarly aligned in height, CW, & progress. Interested how you're going about your journey if you wouldn't mind sharing that?
From my side, I'm diet focused doing very low-carb OMAD and if needing to supercharge progress then I'll do some rolling 48hr fasts with an occasional 72hr.
Exercise by walking half hr every morning & then evening, mainly on flat terrain. 100 light arm curl reps, 20 push ups, 50 squats during the day.
Have not yet joined the gym as I'm waiting to hit 220lb so as to have a set benchmark starting point for body recomp, as I have some loose skin to fill.
Not sure of your age but I'm early 50's however not having too much difficulty with losing the weight.
Keep up the great progress mate
t.Sub100 on FC

>>77193439
You shouldnt be here skeleton man

>>77193999
more coffee

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DAy CERO YOU FAT CUNTS

116.9KG

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>>77192824
since you're all fatties, you must have the best knowledge on what the most easily absorbable calories are

>>77194079
Malt liquor and fried foods. It has had astounding results in burgerland

>>77194072
you kinda heavy, friend.....

>>77194091
>Malt liquor
neural degeneration excluded
what fried foods do you prefer? do you eat like coleslaw or other sides with them?

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>>77194072
116.9KG

>>77194105
imagine the stank of his ass, cuz no way he showers daily

>>77194106
116 kg it only 260lbs lol why ar eyou acting like he’s 500lbs

>>77194110
he kinda fat tho....

>>77194114
depends on his height

>>77194106
Assuming he's not a midget, 250ish pounds is fucking fat but not debilitating like some 600lb life ogre

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>>77194120
No fren, this is fat. 600lb is the proof that we live in a simulation. its like the impossible physics of a bumblebee. It shouldn't be real.

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>>77194072
that said gl though wagmi

>>77194072
good luck fatso, you can do it

>>77194128
250 when youre 6ft+ is really not that bad
if he’s 5'6-8 then thats a different story.

My gym performance (lifting) the last two days has been straight trash. Haven't been able to go hard. Should I just take a break week and only do 10k steps for the rest of the week until monday? I have been letting 4-6 times per week since mid january

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>>77193457
>galeretka
I'm trying to eat healthier while still increasing my collagen intake, I've been leaning on soups a lot and your ideas disgust and fascinate me, I'mma try that out, thanks fella

>>77193657
it never worked
but it works on men

>>77194022
I just wanna get lean im ugly af.

189lbs

i'm 5'3 and 165 pounds. 15 of that i gained in the last 3 months. if i talk to my doctor about having an excessive appetite, how likely are they to give me glp1

>>77193754
Prove it isn't

>>77194301
Depends on why you gained the weight and what your other numbers look like. Not impossible, You're nearly obese but they're just as likely if not more to prescribe wellbutrin, and it's a lot easier to justify.

>>77194301
I went to my doctor recently just for a regular check up and even he asked me what I thought about taking weight loss pills, but he didn't specify which cause I wasn't interested.

>>77194301
its nice to see another rare femanon on here

Fatty Contest
Rozmarino
100.4kg
185cm

>>77193029
I have a similar cope that the fried and sugary slop I used to eat has a bad smell to it but I know I could still gorge on it if I wanted to.

>>77194315
i just got off cymbalta bc it was the main reason i gained this weight back. i told my doc i wasn't going toctake anything that had even a moderate weight risk because that defeats the point of even taking this shit in the first place. he prescribed me latuda so we'll see how that goes. i wish adderall suppressed my appetite like it seems to for everyone else.
>>77194322
i need a physical, problem is i don't know who my actual PCP is so i don't know how to make that appointment. i guess i could i just call and ask but it's so much easier online.
>>77194324
we're few and far between

>>77194349
get MJ off script
it's what I did
helps to know a pharmacist though

>>77194352
i sadly dont know one. i know you can get it off indiamart but it seems risky

>>77194009
Thanks man. Im 26, trying to get and stay fit before I hit my 30s and it starts to actually get hard. I eat a high protein diet, around 150-200 grams a day. I minimize carbs/fats just for calorie efficiency. In the beginning couple weeks when I was adjusting i was at a 500-800 cal deficit but i went up to 1k+ once I got used to it.

It usually ends up being OMAD but sometimes I'll have a banana in the morning or before i workout. Right now im at ~1200 calories a day. I walk and go to the gym 3 to 4 times a week and lift as heavy as I can. My gym sessions are usually 1 to 2 hours. I aim for ~3x8 sets. I rotate between upper and lower body. As I've lost weight I've incorporated more bodyweight exercises and just hit 4 dips in a row and 4 pullups in a row unassisted.

Its been working fairly well for me, I'm closing in on my goal of 220 as well. I'll probably cut further down to 215 or 210, 220 is just the number I came up with as a goal from using the navy BF% and figuring even its numbers are a bit off that losing 60 lbs was a good goal anyways. I figured the navy method wouldnt be exactly accurate for me anyways because I have unusual body proportions even for my height. I want to cut down until my stomach is as flat as it can be. Loose skin is a bit of an issue in the stomach area but it should tighten up a bit over time. Great work to you as well, I hope the last 10 lbs go quick for you.

>>77194312
No

That being said, it ain't

>>77194009
Oh yeah, forgot to say my starting weight this year was 280, I didnt join the fatty Contest till i had lost 14 lbs to prove to myself i could actually do it.

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In before that fucking turbo faggot tells me I'm not weighing myself properly because I didn't strip down ass naked to weigh myself on the public scale at the gym.
If you're reading this, I hope you get cancer, faggot. And you will, because you obviously have grids.

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6 indomie packets and 8 fried eggs

A monument to gluttony, not just mine but everyone's around the world. Ate the whole thing like a piece of shit. I'll probably die of a heart attack from all the sodium in the next few hours. Tell my mom I loved her, and that I'm sorry for being such a failure.

>>77193876
You're welcome. Feel free to download my sheet and use it for yourself.

>>77193649
Great progress for one month. Very visible reduction in fat. Good luck man!

>>77193649
awesome work anon, keep it up!
>>77193680
once a week personally
>>77193975
that's really sweet anon, keep it up
get healthy for your baby and your family so you can be around a long time
>>77194408
holy moly

>>77194391
Doing everything right bro. Thanks for your reply
>>77194393
Same thing here but actually began my fat loss journey tipping 340 then joined FC at 280 :o
WAGMI

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Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 91.05 kg

Overall Progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdcWYhcDy40

>>77194551
>Gaining weight day over day
Fatty

>>77194408
Holy fuck what is wrong with you?

>>77194407
>still has all his clothes on
You didn’t weigh yourself

>>77194576
Well i mean, he literally did.

Fatty Contest
TwinkEnjoyer
63.9kg

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today was another 500 day, pretty ez

hope you all have a nice day

fatty contest
MT_FATSO
105.2kg
176cm

>>77192866
Might be waterweight

Ate 400 cals over my 1400 kcal budget 2day

So im gonna go cycle around my neighbourhood for about an hour, hope it offsets it and keeps my shit on track, the number hasnt dropped for a while

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About to eat breakfast, so I'll go back above 180, but first time seeing that 7 in a long time. Gonna push two a day workouts for the foreseeable future and see if I can't get to 170 by end of month.
Working on agility for ultimate frisbee season.

>>77194711
Yee-haw, motherfucker! Good job.

Is there a reason WHY I can't drink my calories as long as I'm getting sufficient nutrients?

>Dieting for almost a year now
>Lost 80lbs
>Always hungry, even after I eat
>Every meal leaves me unsatisfied and wanting more
>Have to pull out all the tricks in the book to not overeat
>Decide to see just how much I need to eat to reach satiety
>After my protein and water I'll just keep having broccoli until I feel satisfied
>not full, not uncomfortable, I could eat more if I tried, but satisfied, as in I had enough, I'm not hungry anymore, and I don't want anymore food right now
>eat 412g chicken breast, and drink 1L of water
>start piling the broccoli on the plate
>3 fucking kgs of broccoli later I start to feel satisfied
>3121g total before my brain sends the "You've had enough" signal
How does one fix this? I don't think I'm ever going to make it if that's how long it takes my brain to get the "stop eating you're full" signal. Like it takes a ton of willpower and effort not to overeat when every meal leaves you wanting more. Does that eventually go away? I mean I've been at it almost a year, a year of always being unsatisfied with my meals, almost a year of eating 300~450g of lean protein and ~500g of green vegetables and drinking obscene amounts of water to fight off the cravings for more calories, that's what I should be eating, that's what should satisfy me, I'll eat my entire day's worth of calories but my brain's like "Nah, we need like 6 times that much. Keep eating." and everyday I have to tell it to fuck off.

>>77194747
Balanced macros, I guess. If I don't get carbs I'll never feel satisfied with a meal. Can eat until painful and still won't get the full signal.

>>77194770
I could try it with Potato next time but I'm willing to bet the results will be largely the same.

>started at 213 lbs last month 26% bf
>weigh in this morning at 200 24% bf
Been doing the white people steps(10k/5km minimum per day, 1000kcal deficit) and lifting low volume/high reps. My goal is be to 150 come mid august but lots of my 'friends' say that won't be healthly for my body. What you think /fat/?

should I cycle for an hour on the stationary bike and burn whatever the fuck it burns?

>>77194778
>My goal is be to 150 come mid august but lots of my 'friends' say that won't be healthly for my body.
Your friends are being gay.

Have I left it too late to lose weight for the summer?

My BMI is 24.5 right now, so almost overweight

>>77194787
What's the alternative? Sitting on your ass?

>>77193970
The first time I was asked to attempt this was in fourth grade PE Class, and I could not do it. Never been able to, as far as I know. Right arm up, I can get a little closer than left arm up. With the right arm being the low arm, I can't even make it half way up my back, much less to the shoulder blades.
My shoulders are very not flexible.

how muhc of my daily proteins can I eat in one meal? does it matter?

>>77194001
yeah wtf same for me

>>77194100
Nta but I am also in burgerland. I make my own chicken breast tendies, they're pretty good. I've gotten so good at making them I prefer them over fast food now. But before that it was fried chicken that's my greatest weakness. Second behind culvers. that place is devilish. They got everything from really good cheeseburgers which they put butter on the patties, chili cheese fries, and frozen custard which is just ice cream except more unhealthy than usual.
>sides
fries are good, coleslaw is kinda nasty. In fact I don't know of anyone that actually eats coleslaw.

>>77194792
Should consider gaining muscle instead. I am like 26 BMI and can still see my abs.

>>77194815
>mfw eat cabbage salad as my OMAD everyday

>>77194408
Oh my for 3000 calories you could have gorged on much better junk

>>77194819
I dont even hate the cabbage, just the part where the dressing is straight mayo and every place that serves coleslaw absolutely drenches the shit out of it. I don't see the appeal.

>>77194826
I make my dressing from cottage cheese insteqd of mayo and hot sauce instead of vinegar, same thing just about.

>>77194827
sounds like it tastes better desu.

>>77194001
>>77194811
Did you niggas play baseball? My right shoulder is less mobile because of adolescent over development due to hours upon hours of childhood baseball.
Fuck my dad for making me play so much. I would have much rather spent every minute of that time doing almost anything else than larp as a Dominican.

lost 4.6 lbs after gaining 1.2 lbs last week. lets goo

>>77194832
I played baseball when I was 7-8 years old and did that for like a year or 2. My right shoulder does click when I try to do pullups and it hits almost like a reminder of pain. I attribute that more due to a bike accident where I ate asphalt and landed on my right side than baseball though.

>feel significantly leaner, piss a ton this morning
>lost only .2 pounds sayth the scale
does this mean I'm recomping or becoming delusional?

>>77194847
It means you're obsessing over a rounding error of a $20 digital scale because you weigh yourself every single day.

>>77194847
the tumor is growing!

>>77194794
Yes.

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Any ez recipes for a retard? I'm sure I'll get a little tired of chicken and rice after a while.

>>77194826
The dressing is not straight mayo, just so you know.

>>77194030
does this max out at some point? what are the downsides?

>>77193986
dont worry i dont

>>77193981
it is and its H O T

>>77193970
u can get better at it with practice. starts to feel gud after a while

>>77194898
yay :D

>>77194925
feels like it is. bleh.
i dont know why salad is memed as such a healthy food on that note. shit macros, not very filling, and they can get upwards of 500 calories with the dressing.

>trying to jawmax with sugarfree gum
>chew it for upwards of 5-7 hours in a row.
>eat baby carrots and other raw veggies and fruits
>feel no strain or exhaustion
>eat one pack of jerky
>jaw feels like it got a pump from eating it
obv I dont want to constantly eat jerky its expensive and not terribly healthy. anyone got recs for a strong and healthy jaw?

>>77194954
Ok

>>77194984
faggot

>>77194985
Ok

Im 177cm and lost weight from 80kg to 72kg but still look the same. Calculator says Im at 21% fat now but I look similar to 30% fat guys instead.

>>77194956
you can't change your bone structure by chewing gum lol
your tongue's resting position does matter though

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so at what bf% does my fat stop hanging when doing pushups?

inb4 never it's all lose skin

>>77194987
post progress pics

>>77194987
Calculator lol.

it is literally impossible to lose some of the EXCESS circumference from my roly poly rotund belly
simply humanly impossible. The thing hasn't budged in years

I inhale I exhale I feel it rise and rest and I see it is permanently here like a squatter that can't be evicted, it's 2026 surely there must be some procedure where they can just CHOP IT OFF my body and remove all the excess fatty fat parts?
Nevermind the hidden fat or whatever it's called idk why it's called visceral fat when my big jiggly belly is the real visceral eyesore here

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>>77195043
Before and after 80kg 72kg no change

>>77195062
Stomach fat is one of the last places you'll lose weight

>>77195064
Thanks.
What about thighs and manboobs ? They also didn't change.

>>77195062
your thighs look a couple inches smaller

>>77195062
use a tape measure
my waist shrinks as the weight drops

>>77195080
The photo was taken at a further distance so it looks smaller.

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start jabbing retards
picrel took 3 years with jabs
you won't lose shit with your fake rolling fast progress bullshit posts

>>77195062
>>77195075
Consider VASER lipo
stubborn fat gets drained right the fuck out
it's time to explore real solutions instead of spinning your wheels trying to fix genetic endowment

>>77195062
You're probably losing muscle mass instead of fat because you're probably eating carbs.

If you want to lose fat and retain muscle go zero carb.

>>77195062
All the replies are shit except >>77195062

Just keep cutting your ass is huge and also the pussy mound which means you still have ways to go.

>>77195013
i meant more to give my face more shape and musculature.

>>77194747
>Lost 80lbs
sounds like it's working. satiety doesn't really come from feeling full. i have the same problem as you. i could eat two or three times as much as a normal person and still feel hungry. i wasn't able to eat smaller portions and feel right until i realized that i wasn't getting enough carbs or fats. it seemed counterintuitive for weight loss because you want to stay under your calorie limit and carbs and oils are the easiest thing to reduce or eliminate.

now, instead of cutting that stuff out completely, i add a bit of oil while cooking, use a bit of butter on my bread, go ahead and put a bit of whole milk in my coffee. now i get the satiety signal long before i feel 'full' and i have forced myself to stop eating at that point, even though i could happily continue. i still screw up constantly, but it helps.

>>77194770
this- potatoes, sweet potatoes, or cream of wheat, and i'll feel full and satisfied for hours.

>>77195075
I retain most of my bodyfat in those places too even at 200 pounds. Just keep dieting and lift

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>>77194747
Stop eating carbs. Carbs cause hunger. Protein and fat are satiating.

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>>77195075
If you want to lower your adiposity you have to quit eating carbs. If you lose "weight" while eating carbs most of it will be muscle.

It is impossible to get lean while eating carbs unless you inject yourself with hormones.

>>77194738
it's not filling
why make the diet harder by consuming calories in the lowest satiety way possible?

>>77194807
protein timing does not matter and you can eat however the fuck much you want/can in one sitting

>>77194738
If you're drinking protein and fat it is fine. If you're drinking carbs it is horrible because carbs are fattening and liquid or powdered maximizes the fattening effect of carbs.

>>77194908
chicken and potatoes
turkey and rice
turkey and potatoes

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
egg

>>77194956
>>77195116
just be aware of overworking your masseters but for chewing you want mastics (healthy expensive) or falim (turkish cheap[depending on where you live] less healthy cuz it has titanium dioxide)

>>77195025
18% or less probably

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>>77194908
Bacon and eggs.

>>77195201
Why are you recommending low-fat meals?

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>>77195100
or you can stop shoving your pie hole with ultra processed foods

>>77195214
"Ultra processed" is just a euphemism for sugar grains and vegetable oil.

Grains are fattening even without processing. They feed grain to cattle to fatten them.

>>77194908
tuna wraps

>>77195204
fat has 9kcal per gram my nigga

>>77195230
you need at 50g of good animal fat for hormonal balance

>>77195230
Why do you think that matters?

Humans aren't hungry for grams. They are hungry for protein and fat. Carbs are not essential, not satiating, just fattening.

>>77193589
Hot sauce on popcorn is underrated

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>/fat/ still trying to get lean with a low-fat diet
Lol. Lmao, even.

Obesity is just mental retardation. By now the proof that low-fat is the worst diet ever invented is overwhelming. Anyone dumb enough to eat low-fat at this point will be obese forever.

>>77195245
Grains are for fattening cattle, anon.

so: i am down 70 pounds give or take, currently low 190s

ive been hardstuck in 190s for nearly 2 months. i refuse to believe ive been anywhere near my tdee on average daily basis. but ill concede. its possible, doing the math, that ive been, in only, a 600~ calorie deficit daily average.. whatever.. possible.. eyeroll sighh..

i really just want to get this shit off of me now quickly fast expeditiously. i want a minimum 3k deficit daily, 20k weekly

now, its possible butttt with my bmr being 1900 minus 500 for uhhm margins of error and such leaves me with having to make up over 1500 calories in tea

nothing waits for me at home so hours of cardio are possible

now, for my questions:
>what cardio should i do?
i incline walk currently. But boring as fuck
>how to make treadmill not boring
i take adderall and caffeine and use my stimulating mobile device but it doesn't seem to be enough hmm
im picking up instant release today thoughbeit that might help better. fingers crossed....
>what should i prioritize in my meals so i don't feel like shit mentally and physically
thinking of spamming chicken and rice but i dont cook im not a girl

really, i just dont want to lose my mind or hurt, physically

I think satiating and filling are different things.
Salad(without dressing) is filling but not satiating for example.

>>77195190
demonstrably not true stop spreading ketard bullshit

>>77195256
Eat less and walk faster, faggot

>>77195256
Yeah just keep recalculating the tdee/bmr cope and doing more inclined phone walking. ANYTHING to keep dodging those free weights across the room from the treadmills. Be careful, one might sneak its way into your pocket while you're on your phone and make the scale go up 10lbs.

>>77195256
>what cardio should i do?
get a bike or eliptical or something you're not gonna get cardio doing walking forever. get to stage 2 (able to hold conversation while moving). Dont run or you'll explode your knees, running is for the lean dont do it if you're 20% bf or higher.
>how to make treadmill not boring
if you're actually doing stage 2 you wont be bored you will be constantly be thinking about how much cardio sucks, because cardio sucks.

If you're just burning calories then incline walk is good, if you wanna actually build endurance you gotta step it up a little.

>what should i prioritize in my meals so i don't feel like shit mentally and physically
learn to cook and stop whining, it's easy and anyone should learn how to do it. Potatoes are better carbs than rice and you can just microwave them. Use oven recipes for meats because those are brainless. buy salt pepper onion powder garlic powder and whenever you're lazy just season the meat with that before cooking. Raw veggies and fruits good for micros don't buy juice, too calorie dense and just ultimately not good for you.

>>77195292
>running is for the lean dont do it if you're 20% bf or higher.
So that's why the treadmill rattles when I use it

protein timing doesn't matter but you also should try not to stuff more than 50g of protein in one sitting/meal

whats a good prot to carbs&fat ratio during a cut? im at 60 to 40 but science fags talk about eating twice the amount of protein as carbs. that cant be right

>>77195309
But I need to eat 1g/lb of bodyweight and I only eat once a day due to intermittent fasting

>>77195305
army guys are very fit mfs that have high standards of fitness and they blow out their knee cartilage all the time from throwing on 30 pounds of crap and running for miles. If you're fat you subject your joints to the same punishment and can permanently damage your knees. Don't run if you're fat. I cannot stress this enough.

>>77195241
you need to lose weight fatass
>>77195242
because if I ate fatty cuts of meat instead of the lean ones one some days I would stop being in a deficit and on most the deficit would be reduced and why would I want that?
>>77195309
amount per meal is also irrelevant
the food goes into the stomach and intestines and gets absorbed there
>>77195319
1g of protein per pound of LEAN body mass
enough fat for hormones
rest is up to you

>>77195321
But the guy from Man vs Food and Bert Kreisher are fat as shit and they run marathons

>>77195281
didn't think of that.. thanks, faggot
cant eat less because i feel awful enough already and i cant recover for shit/the life of me
>>77195288
>cope
are you being serious or funny? if youre serious, how is that cope?
and you're obviously not funny
>>77195292
would biking or elliptical have any more return on investment? im thinking that the elliptical might but that also seems more exhausting. is it a trade off or is it just better

I stay in that range though i dont think i could keep a conversation, autism aside. it feels a lot harder than it should.
and also i sometimes feel as if im walking incorrectly is that a common issue here? do you have anything to point me to? my pace is usually 27 minutes for a mile, and i cant sustain any faster i dont know why.

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>>77195358
I am fucking hilarious, but I concede not as funny as you thinking you can switch from not losing weight in 2 months to a 3k daily deficit without any muscle mass. Any kind of tdee fuckery to get over 3k (or higher to account for whatever you eat) is pure cope, you will never reach that weight loss goal then get depressed and go back to another 2 months of stall/relapse. Time in the gym lifting weights should always be prioritized over inclined walking cardio. It's virtually the same calories burnt, you build muscle which boosts your bmr just by existing, you become stronger, you look better at whatever your goal weight or bf% is.
You are literally complaining about how boring inclined walking on your phone is. Why not try out a gym routine in that time instead? You can do all kinds of different exercises, while still being able to fuck around on your phone between sets.

>>77195358
>would biking or elliptical have any more return on investment?
the reason I recommended it is because if you want to do serious endurance training it's gonna be better for you than running. If you just meant burning calories then just walk, fuck cardio. If walking is as hard as you say just stick to walking.
>and also i sometimes feel as if im walking incorrectly is that a common issue here?
I can't help here, just gotta keep at it

So should super fats (those of us 330+) stick with a more classical TDEE until we get to a real human weight and then start factoring in BF%?

>>77195397
even human sized niggas have to account TDEE, massive deficits can cause muscle loss from fatigue and not eating enough protein to sustain musculature.

How do you guys deal with enablers who, after telling them you’re trying to lose weight, still bring the fattiest fucking goyslop imaginable? Should I just kill him?

>>77195421
dont eat it. eat before ur friend comes over

>>77195247
oh youre back huh

>>77195427
I live with my dad o algo

>>77195432
ok? and?