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>Keyboard recommendation template:
https://pastebin.com/n220xk9V

>Find vendors
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list // Up-to-date list of reputable vendors with brief descriptions
https://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com // Tracker for current and upcoming keycap group buys

>This keyboard stuff is so expensive!
https://aliexpress.com (or Taobao if you know how)

>Learn about MX-type switches ("mechanical keyboard switches")
https://rentry.org/mkg_switches // Introductory guide
https://www.theremingoat.com // Switch reviews
https://www.switchesdb.com // Compare force curves

>Split and non-standard layout resources
https://compare.splitkb.com
https://keyboard-design.com

>What does ______ do to a keyboard's sound?
https://blacksimon.tv/science (Google sheet)

>Practice typing
https://monkeytype.com
https://www.keybr.com
https://thetypingcat.com
https://play.typeracer.com

>How Cherry switches do backlighting, and why it's not ideal
https://rentry.org/mkg_backlight
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full travel linears
>MX2A
>Gat KS-3
>Bad Sweetheart
>Vertex V1
long pole linears
>Epsilon
>Ghost Dragons
>BSUN Raw
>BCP
>V2U
tactiles (anything)
>MX2A
>Lichicx
>Haimu
>Gateron
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Lucy
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Mirror
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Ouch
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Beige
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Anons, should I learn a second keyboard layout? I only know Dvorak, and it gets frustrating that so many things support Qwerty but not Dvorak.
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>>107975459
Qwerty is the standard, so yes. It's ez, won't take much time at all.
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Lmao at getting scammed by RAMA in 2022.
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In less than 3 years, Geon made the hobby great again.
No more foamslop, no more majority 60% nonsense designs.
Even tactiles/clickies are more mainstream now, especially Gateron doing the heavy lifting with Type Rs, Melodics and Lanes.
Fucking impressive show all around.
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Geon helped with refunds on time, kept clear and consistent comms with the public with his initial misses.
He revived enthusiasts' faith in the hobby and he doesn't miss at all now.
He learned fast and he took 'git gud' to heart.
Nevermind keyboards, he helped with the democratization of GMK sets. Just look at the Evil Dolch kittings, it has something for literally everyone.
Fast turnaround, <$100 GMK sets, proper supply so there's no scalping or FOMO.
All that in such a short span of time. It's justified to love that man and his team to bits <3
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I didn't even mention his RAW series of switches or him being the major vendor for unlubed MX2As which helped Cherry become great again as well.
HE IS GODLIKE AND I LOVE HIM
I LOVE HIM I LOVE HIM SO SO MUCH
Mòran taing, laddie
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>>107974485
how do people even survive with anything smaller than a tkl?
games are unplayable, typing is hell (you're forced to go full troonix where you need to memorize a trillion of combo keys)
tkl already hard to accept, the numpad can be extensively used
but literally what's even the POINT of anything smaller than a tkl?
i don't get it
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>>107976766
Some people are just really good at getting by with macros. Couldn't be me!
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>>107974715
Typing on them (R4) right now because I'm breaking them in before lubing* for a friend's board. I'm not a linears guy but they really are great switches. The feel and sound when you hit your stride on a long monkeytype is so satisfying.


*They have a pretty light lubing already, a bit of oil on the legs and the spring seems lightly greased at the bottom; but I notice they tend to develop spring crunch over the first week of use so my aim is to use them for a solid month or so and then give the springs a slightly more generous 105 bag lube, lightly oil the stem rails, and donut-dip the springs with a more generous quantity of 205g0 at the bottoms to hopefully prevent that crunch from re-emerging. I tried that on one switch and it feels and sounds pretty good so far.
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>>107976627
I see you Baion
I wrote nothing but FACTS and LOGIC
zero homosexuality or femboy-ism
credit where it is due
Geon restored the community's faith in GBs and preorders, made TKLs great again, banished foamslop like Mr Suit, gave us cheaper and diverse GMK sets, gave us new switches from different brands ALL AT ONCE, revived Cherry love via unlubed MX2As, and all of this in less than THREE YEARS.
It's one monumental achievement after another and I'm gonna say it loud and proud.
Geon
fuck yeah
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>>107976824
Oil > grease for lubed spring longevity.
Go ham with Krytox 107 for your friend.
Bag lube those boiiingy springs
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>>107976874
107 sounds interesting. 3x more viscous than 105? Yet I never hear anybody mention it.

I suppose your personal experience is as valuable as anyone else's; if you really swear by it I'll order some right now.
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>>107974485
I recently built my first keyboard (60%) with some jade switches. I like how clicky they sound but I am wondering if theres anything clickier?
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>>107977112
zealpc clickiez
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>>107977062
F the mainstream.
Go off the beaten path and you'll find all sorts of good things.
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>>107977112
Gat Melodics if zeals are unavailable or something
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>>107977175
Ok sure, but you gotta really swear by the stuff or I'm not gonna spend the money. I need to hear "bag lubing with 107 saved my life"
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>>107974485
Need a new keyboard mine is broken. I play bideo games so what do i get that isnt putting too much money into (((their))) pockets but is also good for the price. I want magnetic switches, whatever that means
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>>107977389
not that many jews in the keyboard industry as far as I can tell
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>>107977503
>>107977509
I was looking around and the Razer Huntsman V3 Pro is $100. I dont really care about the brand but this is a fine price for what i can assume is a fine keyboard, or am i wrong?
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>>107977539
Keychron K10 HE Is also priced similarly and is full size. I like this one a bit more since it has no lights, thoughts?
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>>107977580
Thanks i went with that instead.
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Can't see shit on the mods
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>>107977286
bag lubing with 107 saved my life
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>>107977389
kafka is the first HE keyboard I've heard that doesn't sound like shit

https://youtu.be/sNkmanZyf5A?t=5998
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>>107977662
Ok I'm sold, but so far every vendor I can find that has this in any size under a $300 tub is located in either Singapore or Korea. Locally I can find 106, but not 107.

If you ran out today, you would have another jar of it shipped across the Pacific from Singapore? No cap?

>>107977664
My Typface is a great keyboard. (Monospace)
Highly recommend.
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MT3 profile yes/no? i hate the standard gmk font on what feels like every set and drop has some nice sets
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>>107979059
MT3 profile is great. Only bad thing about it is it being owned by drop.
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>>107979059
MT3 is a dead profile.
Man up and get MTNU.
Or double man up and become a CYL enjoyer.
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>>107978440
106 will do the job just fine then. There's always 205g0 to fall back on.
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saw that keychron is doing sale on their q series if anybody is interested.
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>>107979149
Looks comfy as heck to type on
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>>107979265
It is quite comfy. I really like dygma as a company but they are super pricey. I got mine second hand in the months leading up to their 2nd gen launch. You can find good deals sometimes on ebay.
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>>107979059
MT3 is my personal favorite. If you're on the fence about it, I recommend just waiting and keeping an eye on prices and you can get a base kit on sale for ~$40
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>>107979459
Yeah, I'd probably be using basic bitch WoB with this board if I could but there is no spacebar kit for it.
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>>107979446
biuriful
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>Akko/HMX Mirror that far high up
>Lanes and Melodics above Type R
>Lucy represented
>KS-3 at top
quite a based list but that Mirror is surprising. No one talks about it
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Geon only
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fullsize = pro trans
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>>107974485
I got a keychhron v6 max that arrived already with sticky/double-tapping keys and has only gotten worse. I was hoping it'd just be annoying until I got some new switches because wile I should have gotten a refund I didn't want to spend 2 months doing the RMA dance, it's actuall yjust gotten worse and is probably a pcb issue and not a switch one.
So wat's a good non-Keychhron full-size (knob optional) under $200?
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Cherry MX Petals having mx brown bump but just a tiny bit sharper sounds really neat, shame I can't justify buying more switches
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>>107980989
No one's holding you back lol
you can sell off your extras later if you want to
don't cuck yourself over muh justification
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>>107980811
Tofu/Neo/QK/Classic TKL. Take your pick
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And forget full size, just get a separate numpad.
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>>107980811
Have you tried changing the QMK firmware to use a different debounce algorithm?
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>>107981010
I mean I cannot justify it to myself, to my own faculty of reason, to the sovereign mind that judges and decides, and must occasionally restrain the appetites for the benefit of the whole man.
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>>107981044
I have not but will do that first before committing to >>107981021, though idk if that'll address eys outright not registering vs the ones that stick.
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>>107981074
Hmm that does sound bad. Is that with the switches it came with?

And does your computer have severe slowdowns generally or no? (I tried plugging my Keychron into a slow old laptop once, did not work well.)
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>>107981090
Yeah it's with the original switches, I have some replacements in the mail at the moment since I can always reuse them on a new board too.
As for slowdowns, I don't tend to have them, no. MQy computer is getting long in the tooth now but it's a upper-mid range build from the end of DDR4
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>>107981171
Sounds defective to me then. But you could just get another Keychron. Some % of units are going to be defective, that doesn't mean all the other ones are. Mine wasn't.
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>>107981060
That's commendable, but you can still sell your extras anytime you want.
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>>107979107
I ordered the 107 from Singapore.
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Kinda tempted to get this PC variant to house my lychee raw silent tactiles. They're such wonderful switches, they were made to go on a PC board.
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Are phones gonna be affected by the RAM shortages massively?

I don't think I can upgrade this year but I don't want to be fucked if I wait until next year
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Maglev time
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>>107974485
>his keyboard doesn't have a pet sis key
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>>107983310
UWUWAAAA
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I ordered a topre keyboard but there's something I didn't think about.
can you use a keycap puller, for mechanical keyboards, on topre rubber dome keyboard keycaps?
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>>107984231
Idk
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>>107981209

That GB is finished
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>>107984998
I still have the opportunity to get that one, thanks to my vendor.
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>>107981209
I thought about doing the same thing but didn't pull the trigger because I'm not crazy about TKL.

I say do it.
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>>107983310
let me see the Ñ
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>Budget
~$250
>Location (continent at least)
US
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX Black, so Linear
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
TKL
>Backlight
None preferably
>Previous/current keyboards
Filco Majestouch 2
I'm having a rough time finding the same keyboard in stock so looking for something in stock with roughly the same specs. I'm not opposed to trying out different switches/brands but I felt that the cherry mx reds were a bit too easy to actuate when I tried them long ago.
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>>107989245
>>107981021
Same advice.
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>>107989245
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/leopold-fc750rbt-bluetooth-greyblue-pd
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MX Blaecks
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anyone know what board and caps these might be?
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https://www.melgeek.com/products/melgeek-modern97-f-work-game-compact-mechanical-keyboard

How bad is Melgeek? Hotswap 96% for $54, comes with Kailh switches. I know the styling's not for everyone but I always kinda liked the look of this one, other than that hideous gamer bottom. Shame that the keycaps don't have a non-accent option (would be three extra keycaps) because I actually like the look they went for with those double shots.
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>>107990515
You know what you're getting for $54, it's okay.
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>>107990515
No qmk/via no buy.
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>>107990515
for the money it'll be a-ok
expect bullshit software and poor bluetooth connectivity, but that's why god gave us USB
I've bought keycap sets more expensive than that board before
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>>107977389
Have you try to fix your keyboard? I guess you have a mechanical keyboard with switches?

I had a mechanical keyboard too, i fucked up sone switches so they stop doing the clicly sound so i end up buying a basic kit of electronic soldering to change those switches for switches from keys i barely use like F11, F12, etc,and it worked.

Since then i have fixed a lot electronic stuff. Pic related im fixing for eleven time my mouse bought in 2019.

Fuck programmed obsolescence.
Fuck jews.

Remember:
If you don't fix it the jews will win.
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>>107990852
your keyboard is 4 decades old.
>planned obsolescence
lol
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>>107991219
>rape whistle
post bussy
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>>107974497
what's this post implying?
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>>107991490
Joyous submission.
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>>107991518
not everyone's a faggot like you. get a life and stop spamming this thread with your queer ass posts you fucking freak
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https://keygem.com/blogs/keygem-clicks-blog/current-situation-at-keygem-an-honest-update

fucking knew it. they kept making empty promises for the last 18 months!. I have been patient. the last few times I had contact with them in december they refused to give me any meaningful details, just the usual "about to be shipped". looks like not just my 300€ order but many other orders are gone. they are deep into the 5 figure red. they havent responded to my last 2 emails asking for a refund 30 days ago. let that be a learning experience for anyone else. to bad I already ordered custom usb cables, keycaps, artisan keycaps and switches 12 months ago. they just lie around in the corner of my room collecting dust. fuck keygem. reddit comments, which are hard to find desu, are also very negative as of recent. the y all complain about orders that were never filled.
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>>107992167
looks like they just can't hack it.
muh custom mech scene is slowing down
tell that to Geon lol
get your G on
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>I got your G on right here *smooch*
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>>107992167
>https://keygem.com/blogs/keygem-clicks-blog/current-situation-at-keygem-an-honest-update

Now that I have read through their blog post a second time I realized the entire blog post was written by ai just based on the "— " the ai loves to throw in. they didnt even bother to write something themselves.
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>>107992391
Can someone explain the joke here please?
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>>107992446
tbf everyone uses AI slop these days
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picked up a magic keyboard + mouse bundle off facebook over the weekend and im still in awe of how slim it is. bout 1.75in. longer than my main board yet with 100% keys. any mechs with a similar size profile?
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>>107992938
Nope.
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>>107992988
not even in the low-profile mech market? i mean i can go with the smallest available with 100% keys if so
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>>107993051
Apple has the market beat there.
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>>107993067
well damn
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>>107990903
>talking shit about the IBM model M keyboard

Im going to shove my hot soldering pencil into your urethra
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>>107992605
>>107992446
It's alt-0151, and many people insert them manually—retards.
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>>107994709
No they don't, they use --
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Also since apparently nobody can remember the past at all, the 'house style' of ChatGPT etc. comes directly from professional copywriting, where this style was the norm for many years. Any time you read a public statement from a business, particularly one that was dealing with a public relations disaster, you would encounter this very conventional professional style of writing.

Word processors automatically replace double dashes with em dashes, and a LOT of people use word processors to prepare documents like this.

With all that said, it could be AI. But there is no clear "tell" here beyond the em dash, which in this context is hardly a tell at all. The em dash is a common piece of punctuation which has only gradually fallen out of favour in the computer era. Open any book and there's a better than 50/50 chance you'll find them, depending on whether that writer is more fond of semicolons. I opened the book in front of me on my desk as a sanity check on this one, and the very first page I opened to has one. If you follow literate types on twitter, or read blogs of a more literate bent, you will find em dashes there too. That's because they know the em dash is indispensible punctuation, and it looks sloppy having a break between two short dashes.

>>107994792
You don't know what everyone else in the world does. I actually have a fn macro on my Typface to insert an em dash when I press fn + dash (because I can't get used to the left-hand numpad).
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>>107993429
don't you tempt me with a good time
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>>107994872
cummawn mweesiter
not just us, not just us
but, but
these transition phrases are peak AI
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>>107994872
The reason that ChatGPT leans so heavily on rule of threes, em dash, italicization, etc., is that these were signals of prestige writing; you see these things that don't appear in a typical 4chan post, and you recognize that there is an attention to style which signals a confident and fluent written voice. It doesn't look as much like awkward walls of text on the screen. It's easier to read.

People went out of their way to learn how to write like this because they, too, wanted to demonstrate that they can write 'like a writer'. Particularly young people who were a little embarrassed of their high school essay writing style and wanted to do better. And once you develop the habit there's no reason to discard it.

So when they were training ChatGPT to prefer the most professional kind of style for its answers, it gravtitated (to an excessive degree) toward em dashes/etc. It's a sort of exaggerated artefact of telling it to sound more like the Washington Post and less like a Reddit comment.

>>107994918
There are many elements of this that don't look like AI to me. The mix of single and double spacing, for example. It doesn't read as something wholecloth prepared by ChatGPT.

I tried running it through a website claiming to detect ChatGPT (I don't really trust these websites in general, I think they're mostly bullshit), and it claims "human written and polished with AI, moderate confidence". Which would mean someone had something written up, said "hmm it's not quite right, I'll paste it into ChatGPT to improve it", which is depressingly common especially in business. But the interesting bit is it points out which it thinks is the most AI-sounding line:
"Current Situation at KEYGEM — An Honest Update"
And actually, yeah, that's extremely ChatGPT lol
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>>107995219
most people would have AI spit out the content and do a surface edit to remove these obvious tells
they just fed it instructions like
>WE NEED TO TELL THEM HOW IT STARTED AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR US AND OUR PREORDERS
the bullet point spam and bolded text is another amateur level tell
feed my greentext to GPT and it'll write it up something more similar than otherwise
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SLOP
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forreaal
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notice
>How It Started
THEY KEPT THAT LINE
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
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>>107995349
>>107995355
These are many times more obvious as ChatGPT though.
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For a numpad like this where is the return key? The + key?
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>>107995769
Macros
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>>107995769
geON onLY btw
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Feeling like a poorfag the way I'm waffling on whether to purchase this $50 keyboard

Melgeek Modern97

pros
> $54 + $30 shipping
> board looks good imo
> attractive keycaps too
> my preferred layout
> hex pattern of reinforcement in the bottom case likely good for sound
> gasket mount looks intelligently designed

mixed
> gapless numpad is ugly, but the top piece over the gap can sound bad on some boards
> PC plate is fine, but not what I'd want ideally
> bluetooth performance allegedly bad, but I don't use bluetooth
> battery would need to be removed for peace of mind, probably glued in place

cons
> China
> ugly bottom design
> proprietary software
> plate-mounted stabs
> clip assembly, need guitar pick to disassemble
> defoamed sound is a complete unknown, might sound awful
> PCB cutouts
> stated 22mm front height sounds high and uncomfortable
> board color might be a little uglier in-person, judging by user images
> no r3 control keycap
> mandatory accent keycaps
> allegedly difficult to deal with Melgeek directly if I get a defective unit (probably just have to take the loss)
>no use for Kailh linear switches that come with it

Do I just go for it, damn the torpedoes?
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>>107996534
>plate-mounted stabs
Unironically not a problem, look for CMMK stabilizers from FL Esports, amazing stabs

Though at $84 after shipping I'd probably look at something like a Royal Kludge S98 or RK96 on Amazon in the same price ballpark, more of a known quantity (and both of them have additional USB-A ports for a wireless mouse or whatever, RK96 has two ports and S98 has one)
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>>107996740
>RK96
hideous
>Royal Kludge S98
less hideous but still very much not my taste

I don't need a keyboard. I have multiple $200+ keyboards. I just wouldn't mind having another plastic one to put some of my extra switches in, clickies etc.

Keep in mind also that the Melgeek is a $110 board which is on sale half off to clear the remaining stock.
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>>107996534
No. More cons than pros & mixed combined.
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Guys I think my custom keycaps are slamming onto the case. What foam can I get that will be thick enough to shut it up but also thin enough to allow the switch to still work?
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>>107997083
Slamming into the sides of the case? Hitting the plate or the switches? I'm not sure what you mean but I can't imagine any scenario where foam is the answer
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>>107997083
Have you heard of a device called a ruler
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>>107997097
The topmost upper plate that surrounds the switches. The bottom of the keycaps are taller than the old ones and are hitting the plate every time they are pressed down. I heard you can elevate the keycaps on the switches but I don't understand exactly how they want me to do that
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>>107997130
This is very unusual. Did you put full height keycaps on low-profile switches?
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>>107997130
If it's only too tall by half a mm or so you can buy stem spacers, usually used for stabilizers, and put those on the switches before the keycap.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008280765484.html

It gets a bit expensive if you have to do a full board, especially if you're doing two per switch.

I've never heard of your problem before and I'm not sure what the usual fix is.
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>>107997139
Polycarbonate keycaps on normal sized switches. It presses down enough to trigger, but it is louder. If I shove something thin under it, it still triggers but sounds 90% quieter, are the keycaps and plate supposed to collide into each other every time normally?
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>>107975283
well hello gorgeous
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>>107997187
That might be what I need, thanks
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>>107997195
>but it is louder
Polycarbonate IS louder. I'd check to be sure before jumping to any conclusions.

The keycaps do not generally collide with the plate. I would put one on a full travel switch and see whether the caps are really travelling past this point, which is where the switches sit on the plate
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is there an affordable alternative to oil kings? maybe even slightly heavier? oil kings are overpriced but i really like them.
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>>107997534
Just swap in heavier springs if you already know you like the oil kings.
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>>107997534
Switch opener, whatever the hell linear switch you want, 205g0 lube, go nuts. Oil King is comparable to most any linear with a good lube job and a 65g spring.
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Have a F1-8X V2 on the way, comes with a half aluminum plate and a full aluminum plate. I don't really want to be a part of a faggy tinkerer reddit hobby and would rather just build a one and done. What sounds better between the two? What tends to sound nicer?
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>>107997556
oil kings are already over priced.
>>107997680
65g spring? spec sheet says 55g but I want about 10g more. Maybe i just buy some cheapo epomaker zebras, those are pretty close already, just lighter.
does it need to be grease or can i get away with the superlube ptfe oil I aleady have?
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>>107997747
Oil Kings have a purported 80g bottom-out but they end up feeling like an even 65g spring in practice. You can get away with probably any dielectric lube you have laying around.
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>>107997747
$0.65 per switch isn't that bad of a price to be honest.
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>>107996934
Love the textured mint surface
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>>107997534
Oil kangs often go on discount
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>>107997734
Auto Geon Ejaculators agree on the following:
>half alu
>MX Blacks lubed/filmed/spring swapped
>solder ONLY
get your Blacks tuned to your liking and SOLDER THEM UP
GET GALATEA OR HINEY PCBS FOR THE BEST SOUND ON SOLDER
G ON BOYO
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>>107998781
I’m doing all of that but wouldn’t half plate sound inconsistent key to key? I don’t care about flex as much as wanting it to sound good.
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>>107998748
Drank a bottle of wine and placed the order. Bad idea (both of them) but I've had more expensive bad ideas.

(I don't drink really, but opened wine doesn't keep—useful belief, sure—)

"Damn the torpedoes," I did say. All shall be well &c.
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>>107997747
>spec sheet says 55
55g actuation, not bottom-out. I don't know why I wrote that switch guide when nobody reads it
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>>107998945
That's the meta
look up youtube sound tests
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>>107998945
since it's your first, you can go with a full plate on non-modded MX2As
for your second build swap the stem out for BSUN stubs and use a half-plate
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>>107999261
I can think of worse ideas, I'd make the same decision in your place
that mint is a BEAUT
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>>108000242
I'm so upset that there are no non-accent keycaps. It's almost a good set.
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>>107996943
You know that moment in Along Came Polly when Ben Stiller decides he no longer cares how his Riskmaster software evaluates the 'rewards' and 'risks' of choosing to be with Jennifer Aniston? That's me. I'm Ben Stiller.
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>>108000324
^_^
beautiful
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>>108000324
Ok Gaylord.
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MX Blacks
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Stubs
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finally found a cycle 7 purple secondhand bros. any keycap recommendations for a purple board? i'm thinking hammerworks beige or gmk wob.
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>>108001528
Hammer forever
or Baion Nerve
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F1-8X V2
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Why isn't anyone using lead weights?
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>>108002205
You mean other than lead being toxic?
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>>108002205
Why the fuck would you want lead over copper or brass? Even if it was 100% safe, good luck marketing it as something anyone would want over C/B.
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>>108002217
>>108002226
for the milky yellow thocc
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>>108002289
Use tungsten, it's significantly more dense than lead.
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Do unlubed MX2As come with gobs of lube on the leaf? The Black ones are completely unlubed, but the Browns look like this.
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Forgot pic
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Nothing a triple 0 brush can't fix, maybe it's because of the tactile stems in Browns? Typical Cherry lube job.
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Also, RIP VTX.
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Asuka keyboard
$400 on ebay
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>>108003018
Total rip-off.
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>>108003018
I hope they raise it to 4.5k, you faggots deserve to be scammed as hard as possible
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>>108000237
>>108000112
I don't want this to be a tinkering hobby, I just want to build one plate and be done with it. I have lubed, filmed and broken in MX2As, a grey linear MX for the spacebar, Cherry stabs with Geon wires and a GMK set. I don't want to be rebuilding and fucking with this over and over again - outside of one nice build this 'hobby' is too reddit-tier bugman for me.
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>>108003539
go with the full v1.1 alu plate and be at peace.
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>>107988330
My daily since 3 years ago
Stock cherry hyperglides, NOS OG Dyesubs
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>>108002403
>>108002439
Yuck. Will have to wait for Geon unlubed brown restock. I've delubed switches before—never again.
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>>108004198
Where do you think I got those from?
Those are all unlubed MX2As direct from Geon.
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>>108004038
>OG Dyesubs
guy on Discord is selling those at my end, but they don't look half as good as yours. Anything special about them, or am I good with modern GMK?
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>>108004336
might just be that mine are pbt instead of abs
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>>108004317
Oh mb I didn't read "unlubed" in the first part of the post. I thought that was comparing regular MX2A browns to unlubed blacks.

Bit of false advertising if you ask me.
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>>108003680
What can I expect in terms of sound difference? I honestly cannot tell from YouTube typing tests the differences between things - it seems like a poor metric for explaining sound or a resonant metal box.
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>>108004666
>I honestly cannot tell from YouTube typing tests the differences between things
It's an acquired skill
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>>108004729
It seems like the sort of thing that doesn't translate to real life. It's like people who buy rifle and pistol suppressors based off of their performance in a YouTube video.
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>>108004764
it doesn’t, there are a million different variables involved and half of them have nothing to do with the keyboard
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>>108004926
Not being able to mentally account for those variables is a skill issue
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>1:16-1:22
this Geonsissy is moaning
WTF
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHd4CIsZ-oI
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>>108005122
Actually typing test videos like this are not a reliable way of determining whether someone is moaning or not.

Different microphones have different frequency responses—some emphasize bass, others mid-range or treble. A cheap phone mic captures sound completely differently than a dedicated condenser microphone. The microphone's position relative to the user (distance, angle, height) dramatically affects what frequencies are picked up and how reverberations are captured.

Hard surfaces like desks and walls create reflections and resonance that color the sound. A hobbyist recorded in a small, untreated bedroom sounds completely different from one recorded in a large room with carpet and furniture that dampens sound. Background noise, room dimensions, and even what the desk is made of all contribute to what the microphone captures.

Most sound tests go through some level of audio processing. Equalization, compression, normalization, and noise reduction all alter the frequency balance. Even if unprocessed, the file format (MP3 vs. lossless) and bitrate affect audio quality.

The device you're using to watch the video, the quality of your speakers or headphones, their frequency response characteristics, the volume level you're listening at, and even your own playback environment all introduce additional coloration. Cheap earbuds will make his breathing sound completely different than studio monitors.

How hard the person breathes, their pulmonary rhythm, their lung capacity—all of these affect the sound produced. One person and another will produce completely different sounds on exhale.

Even "identical" keyboard users can sound different due to dry mouth (lubed vs unlubed oral cavity), cold and flu, tooth shape, mewing, and countless other mouth variables that are nearly impossible to standardize across different people.

All of this makes it essentially impossible to know what that keyboard hobbyist would actually sound like if he exhaled at your desk.
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>>108005233
1:20 is a SOUL DEEP moan of pleasure
I have been around enough men who've moaned like that in moments of SERIOUS pleasure
I recognise it instantly hahahaha
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MX Blacks (L/F/SS/BI)
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HMX clackers? Nah I'm good
give me nothing but Cherries
Cherry makes me cheery
and I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love
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>>108005432
why are you so obsessed with this AI generated slop?
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How common is repeated keystrokes or missed keystrokes/delayed inputs on keyboards?

I've tried a few keyboards and multiple of them have this issue, especially in bluetooth mode. If I return and re-rorder the same model of keyboard, is the new one likely to be fine, or is it more likely a shared issue across the entire sku?

Conversely, if I did buy a keyboard and it happens to not have that sort of issue in bluetooth mode, did I just get lucky or is it likely that another keyboard of the same model will also be fine?

t. person new to this who has been trying a bunch out
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>>108007338
Stick to wired.
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I think I'm ready to build-my-own. Who makes good frames?
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is dactylbro still here? would you do a dactyl-cc build?
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Can anyone help me pick an alice? Between these two they are the same price, similar layout. The keychron has nicer keycaps, but the a72 has a much better interior setup i think. There aren't many reviews at all of the a72.
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>>108008234
I assume you mean keyboards, as in, case + PCB + plate (not switches/keycaps)

Right now I think Neo75 or Neo98 is gonna be the best place to start. For 65% I don't know if there will be warping issues with the front wood piece, but the Typface Kafka seems very nice, and you can get it as a hall effect prebuilt or as a barebones MX keyboard.

Other than this, if you like plastic boards the Cannonkeys Photon (65%), Omnitype Bauer Lite (65%) and Novelkeys Classic-TKL (TKL) are all nice boards. Swagkeys in Korea has their Transition Lite boards, which seem pretty great for the price, but maybe not as competitive after shipping from Korea.

A little bit of info about what you're looking for (and on what continent) would make it easier to recommend something
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>>108008430
100%, and I guess I meant the case and whatnot rather than the caps and switches. Caps and switches are fairly self-explanatory. Would prefer something metal and heavy since it satisfies my autism over heavy = sturdy.
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>>108008438
There aren't a lot of 100% aluminum boards right now, but there are some.

Keychron Q6 (or Q6 Max, or Q6 Ultra 8K, etc.),
Chilkey ND104,
Ticktype DP104

Meletrix has the Zoom98 which is very close to full-size (just a tiny bit smaller), some colors in stock still

Can't think of anything else just now
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>>108008410
RK is certified dogshit.
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>>108008487
And honestly I think the Neo98 will be better than any of those. Even if you don't like using the numpad for nav functions, you can still fit all the nav keys in there. Top row you do insert, home, end, print, pause (or scroll lock, whichever you like more)
then the column can go delete, pgup, pgdn

You only lose one key.
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sup /g/uys I have more money than time these days where can I find someone to do a mod for me start to finish? I need an Advantage2 with the pillzmod and I'm not going to solder shit
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>>108008501
elaborate
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>>108008438
F1-8X V2 off Mechmarket
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What's the quick rundown on these "horse switches" the chinese are cooking up
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>>108009377
Magnetic?
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>>108009431
Yeah, they got silicone inserts in them

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1KNzYBiECa
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Unga bunga stems in MX Blaecks
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I'm gonna do it when my paycheck rolls in, or my tax return comes in, whichever.

I'm gonna buy a GMK set, because all of its clones seem to have dropped off the face of the planet.
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Wooting 80HE TenZ Takeover - OUT NOW!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFMBaHFCQkk

Wooting 80HE TenZ Takeover - OUT NOW!
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>>108009377
lubricated with premium horse cum™
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>>108009541
Good man.
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>>108008410
Don't waste that much on a keychron. I would recommend just getting the Q8 basic. It's the same shit in every way except without a $4 wifi chip and battery.
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>>108009541
which set?
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>>108009770
DMG, the Game Boy themed one. It seems like there used to be accurate clones floating around, but no longer.
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>>108009541
>>108009805
God have mercy on my soul.
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>>108009805
The Ghost Judges ones looked good, but they are no longer available.
>>108009896
I see you wanted the novelties, a lot of clones don't bother kitting those so the gmk set is your only option.
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>>108009927
I'd have been damn impressed if any clone ever included something like a windowed Caps Lock key.
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>>108009896
now you'll see the difference baby
FUCK YEAH
>>108010018
SWEET
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>>108009118
>F1-8X V2
Not 100%.
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MX BLAAACKS ON ALU
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>>108009377
>we want the umamusume audience
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>>108010622
mindbroken faggot
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HMX on PC
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Baion on Lenja
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Holy FUCK Cherry MX Blaecks
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MX buaaleek
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huhuhuhu Baionworks
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Best switch of 2026?
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Jesus Christ, why is that GMMK 3 so expensive?
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>>108013054
Outdated POS, that's why
you know how old stock doesn't get updated to match current pricing and all that
it's e-waste
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>>108013341
It's a shame, too, if it were $100 cheaper it'd be really competitive in the metal full-size category.
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Man I regret buying the Keychron V6 max with gateron banana switches, these fuckers are too sensitive to even the small amount of dust, making the keys sometimes fail at random when typing at WPM > 100.
>inb4 clean you shit
I clean my desk for dust every week, even bought one of those hand-sized dust cleaner for computer parts, including keyboard, yet here we are.
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the search for a good full keyboard for poorfags continues
and it isn't looking good, everything is outemu garbage clones
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>>107974485
Is ducky still the top brand
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>>108013709
Ducky became irrelevant the instant hotswap sockets became a thing and PBT keycaps stopped being a mythical dragon and became something you can buy on Aliexpress or Amazon for $30
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>find a too good to be true deal
>soldered switches
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Time to bust out the soldering iron and put some Mill-max sockets in.
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>>108013815
>>108013843
I meant to quote but I didn't.
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>>108013516
Just go custom d00d
>>108013540
Save up and treat yourself to a custom d00d
>>108013843
Just use another PCB/build d00d
d000000d
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>>108014151
>Just go custom d00d
I'm a casual who just wanted a good mechanical keyboard experience, and Keychron seemed to be well regarded here and in other places. Turns out I just got unlucky as apparently there are many complaints of similar issues for this V Max line.
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Actuating MX rn
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>https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808598220852.html
>https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809656885683.html
>https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808616911696.html
>https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801652049822.html
>https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832766348343.html
Pick one Model/Switch for me.
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>>108015962
Bottom right.
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fj400's or bsum raws... that is the question
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what's the state of the art for QMK/ZMK on the HHKB? Is there a controller for the Pro Classic yet?
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>>108017037
>what's the state of the art for QMK/ZMK on the HHKB
I am extremely confused. What are you asking?
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>>108015962
>>108016297
top middle is a straight up upgrade to bottom middle because pbt > abs
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*bottom right
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>>108016789
Raws.
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Bad Sweetheart
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>>107974485
>buy or build another over priced mech board
>use mech board for a while
>miss feeling of cup rubber
>go back to using my HHKB
How do is break this cycle?
Topre can't be the as good as it gets... right?
Maybe I should try a something that isn't mx-style slop?
Are beamspring switches any good?
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>>108013843
Everytime I end up doing this, I always regret it and end up desoldering the mill-max sockets after awhile.
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>>108018770
I hate my keyboard having hotswap sockets. My harvest is too lush, my rolls are too buttery, my caramel is too creamy.
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>>108018649
Don't try anything else if you found what you like.
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>>108018649
you can get topre clones on custom boards in the form of dynacap or naevies
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>>108018649
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007103269672.html
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Topre bad
MX Blaecks good
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>>108019432
kys fag
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Oh my fucking god I fucking hate female youtubers, they keep turning review videos into vlogs and talking about themselves
3 mins in and she's barely started reviewing the keyboard
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>>108020228
You don't need to watch reviews for prebuilts.
Just get whatever is available.
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>>108020228
get bamboozled
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HMX Baion
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>>107974485
are there any other fullsize aluminum barebones kits aside from the monsgeek m5?
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>>108020722
Nope.
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>>108015962
>first link
>tiny compact 75%, almost unusuable if you aren't a gay tranny
>but has wireless option
>third link
>big large dick 100%, layout used by all sex having giga chads
>wired only
go first if you value wireless
but you probably don't, wired keyboard is not a big deal anyway
unless your main screen is like a 50" tv and you sit like 10 feet away from it
only wireless mice is mandatory t b h
so i'd default going for the third link
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MX Alus
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Just bought the keychron v5, what am I in for?
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>>108021741
Your first time.
It's bound to be special
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AGU
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gooned hard to this
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>>108020228
Youtube added features to help with this issue.
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I just finished TypingClub, not with 5 stars in all lessons yet, though. My typing really got much better over the past few months. I always told myself it was fine and I don't write long text anyway, but even speed in short bursts and way better control over hotkeys makes everything better. One of the best decisions I ever made, should've done it sooner.
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>>108022392
based af
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My butthole burns after buying a GMK set. Why are they so fucking expensive.
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>>108023173
Oh come on. Enjoy yourself. It's pricey and it's worth it. You think girls cry when they buy their name brand heels or handbags?
This is for us men. This is ours. And the women be damned.
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Where do I get keycaps with a Swiss (CH) layout?
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>>108016297
>>108017247
>>108021249
So, Brown GK715S then? Or Red?
Honestly not a big fan of the I2's 83 keys, yeah.
GK735-B does not seem to exist outside that page to me and I cannot find whether it is hotswappable or not, I don't really feel like gambling.
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You think having beige caps is the hallmark of being a cultured elitist?
THINK AGAIN
where's the Dolch stuff? Fucking posers
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>>108023903
Dolch just doesn't work on as many cases. I have a Dolch set but haven't found a use for it.
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>>107974485
Tulip is so hot
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>>108023903
Dolch is nice but beige will at the very least looks alright even in a fucking absolute abomination case color
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>>108023918
Tulip is asinine if you don't use Nordic caps to begin with
>but muh aesthetics!
same people will cry at Jappo legends under Latin
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Ok fuck it I'm too mad at this point, time for a new keyboard. I'm >>108013516.
>Budget
Around 200 USD
>Location (continent at least)
I can easily buy anything from the US, Japan or AliExpress.
>Preferred switch type
Tactitle.
>Layout
ISO preferably but ANSI is not a dealbreaker.
>Form factor
100% or TKL/80%. Wireless would be nice, I'm not a gamer or anything so the latency with 2.4GHz is usable enough.
>Backlight
Whatever.
>Previous/current keyboards
Keychron V6 Max with Gateron Banana as previously stated and Corsair Strafe with Cherry MX Blue.
I've also had the opportunity to try out Cherry MX Brown, Cherry MX Red, Outemu Blue and Outemu Brown, and while the Brown switches were "fine", I found them to be lacking. Cherry MX Blue had decent feeling but the sound of it in the Corsair Strafe was ugly.
The V6 Max I think is great all around and I would definitely not been trying to replace it if not for the reliability issues. I looked and apparently the entire Keychron's Max line suffers from issues in the solder of the switches swappable socket, and the only way to fix it is by opening the whole keyboard and fixing the solder yourself. Unfortunately I'm not confident on my soldering skills (or lack thereof), so I would rather not do that to the only functional keyboard I have on me. Maybe later as a project once I get myself up there in soldering but not now.
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>>107981044
I'm the anon above, and while the debounce fixes the double tapping, it doesn't fix keys not registering in. I was on the same boat as that other anon, mine after a couple of weeks started double tapping and changing the debounce did fix the issue, but after ~8 months keys started to not register at random, and that is a soldering issue.
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>>108024733
Fixing those sockets would be very easy. You should at least try to fix one.
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>>108024683
spring $250 and get the Neo80 with full brass parts, the trimode hotswap PCB and a PP plate
pair it with HMX Snowfall and you're set forever
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>>108024733
I don't know whether it's easy to fix the soldering job on the sockets, but it's definitely not something you should have to do. If you can't return it, give that a shot; if you can return it, return it
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No PP, no POM, no PC, no CF

only ALU
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full plastic body vs aluminum?
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>>108026497
alu ofc
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>>108024821
Yeah I will, as part as my soldering skill improvement endeavors, but as >>108026229 said, we really shouldn't have to do it for what is supposed to be a "decent mid-end" keyboard.
>>108024945
Thanks I'll take a look.
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>>108023723
I wonder if there's a catch here, this one shows up as a supposedly way more complete option, hotswappable, trimode and all that shit, as long as I give up being a 100% purist and consider a TKL
Also nice coupon makes it ~$55 before taxes (compared to ~$48 for the 100% one)
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Geon Raw Zeros are some of the best switches you can use for stabilizer keys. The upstroke is a thing of beauty, really.
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>>108026497
Depends entirely on your personal preference. I tend to prefer full plastic bodies for keyboards with tactile switches.
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>>108026899
>I wonder if there's a catch here
You will end up regretting cheap wireless nonsense.
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>>108027016
It shouldn't be a huge problem as long as I don't play games without plugging in, no?
Also I'm honestly more interested in the budget gasket mount, isn't it a more interesting or futureproof option for switches and keycaps modding?
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>>108027141
go ahead anon
it's always nice to experience new things
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>>108026497
replacing those plastic keycaps with ceramic or wood should be higher on your list.
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>>108027368
here comes the material science autist
glad to see you gave up on metal caps at least
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Fuck you Geon
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Keyboard I ordered last year arrived today. 10 pound box.

Haven't opened it. Not ready to build it yet. When I am ready, I will open it.
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>>108027770
Ten POUNDS????
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>>108027813
Yeah I'm not sure why it's so heavy, the keyboard should be significantly less than that.
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>>108027770
Is it that one from keygem lol
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open it retard
if you got a bad batch
always check for these things
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>>108027908
no

>>108027917
no, it can wait a week
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Actuating MX Blaecks
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>>108027281
I mean, am I retarded or do I have a point?
I still have a few hours to decide between the TKL model or the 100% model (or keep looking for something else, but I doubt I will find a better value).
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>>108028229
Recommend the fullsize because you're gonna miss the numpad the instant you don't have it. TKL ends up being annoying to me in the long run
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>>108026497
if clickies, then plastic
if alu, then linears or tactile

if alps, then always plastic
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>>108028260
assuming he uses it
get your G on
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>>108018829
But I NEED the BEST keyboard.
>>108019061
I think I will try a build with the Raeds HE switches. Rubber domes + HE might be interesting.
>>108019268
Might be wrong but that looks like some low quality chink shit. I'm not on a budget.
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>>108028431
>the Raeds HE switches. Rubber domes + HE might be interesting.
If you're going to do that, I don't know shit about HE switch compatibility but if they work with kafka then get that thing. Every other HE board I've seen fucking sucks and is just low tier gaymer quality shit.

Also report back because I'd genuinely like to know if HE has finally left meme status.
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marbly creamy thocks
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>>108027908
lol, you are probably thinking about me and it was 18+ months so far. at least they answered my emails and offered a complete refund or let me wait since they are in talks with the manufacturer. I got myself a replacement board/case (cycle7) with pretty much my preferred color/specs so I can wait now. its been 18+ months I can do another 18 at this point.
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>>108028431
the best?
you got what it takes to get your G on, BIATCH?
F1-8X V2
MX Blacks L/F/SS/BI on Alu V1.1
GMK keycaps ONLY
there's your honest to God answer.
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>>108029735
oh good for you anon!
at least you didn't get completely scammed
happy for u :333
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>>108029988
it feels like you are making fun of me with that picture and that emote. I feel inclined to insult you ngl
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>>108030022
hell no
that's peak sincerity
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nu
>>108030505
>>
BFMA
BF...really MA
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Cum on my mouth uWu

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