>News & Rumors
Price rises for memory, storage, and GPUs expected to continue
PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soon
OLED monitors with RGB-stripe subpixel layout releasing this year

>Omissions
OLED monitors: Buy a well-reviewed (owner feedback included) OLED at a discount; panels with true RGB subpixels will replace current offerings in the next 2~3 years.
Not worth paying full price for a WOLED or 3rd/4th gen QD-OLED.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

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>PC Figures
GPU: Noodle Stopper
<90mm base: Nendoroids, Deformed Figure, Mini Chara Stand
90-120mm base: Figma, Most Taito, Pop Up Parade (Non L/XL), Arylic Stand (<19cm height)
120-140mm base: FuRyu Prize, Pop Up Parade (L), 1/8 Scale
140mm+ base: Pop Up Parade (XL), 1/7+ Scale
AVOID Funko Pops, Beware of Bootlegs

suppose i can bequeath my 27” 1440p panel to my macbook and grab a 32” 4k for pc use. how’s legibility on such a big screen? will a 9070 xt suffice?

>>108063567
>>108063589
>>108063767
Well, it is a very low end setup currently (i7-6820HQ, Quadro M2000M)
I wanted to build a real PC, but RAM inflation hit my country extra hard, so I am just focusing on improving QoL instead (better monitor, wireless keyboard + mice, etc)
1440p monitor it is then?

>>108064052
>stock cpu cooler

>>108064107
>how’s legibility on such a big screen? will a 9070 xt suffice?
You'll probably have to use around 125~150% UI scaling at least. Some might even go up to 200% scaling.
9070 XT should be okay with FSR4.
Get Optiscaler to run FSR4 on unsupported titles; don't use it in multiplayer games with anti-cheat detection.

You have to test out these monitors for yourself, either by visiting a store's display showroom or buying & returning it if you don't like it.

WHERE ARE THE FUCKING SUPERS JENSEN???

>>108064141
lol they're stripping the vram off of their regular models where are they gonna get enough to make supers bro

>>108064141
People would just whine about the price anyway.

>>108064020
Yeah, the search is like whoa, you wanna do what hackerman?

In this situation, Apple is sitting pretty, and AMD is looking pretty much like second genius for doing the unified memory thing.

Unified memory makes ram configurable on a market price.

With gpus, the vram configuration is locked in by the board. usually.

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RAM has increased so much in price you can buy an entire 9060XT 16GB with how much it costs now.

Is anyone actually buying at these prices lmao? $450 is a brand new fucking RDNA4 GPU.

>>108064040
Any reason not to include the 9070 in mid range recommendations? It's barely more expensive than the 5060 TI 16GB, and arguably better value than the 5070.

>>108064467
we need a domestic supply of ram.

The time has come for a new type of government, because our current one is retarded. democracy is stupid.

>>108064467
amerimutts and germs are gonna buy that and think it's a great deal and build their pcs to play world of warcraft and hearthstone
normal people are just gonna make due with what they have and upgrade next year

>>108064052
>ram in slot 1 and 2

>>108064711
>next year
You sweet summer child

>>108064713
They need to be together so they don't get lonely

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What's a good barebones case for me to put my own 140mm fans into?

Currently considering the NZXT H7 Flow (huge but supports radiators in case I want an AIO in the future) or the be quiet Pure Base 501 Airflow.

The XT Pro and Air 903 from the OP look kind of cheap so I'm not sure about those.

How much important is GPU brand for 5070 ti?
Asus, MSI, PNY, Stock, which one?

$385 for arc b580? 5060ti 16g is +$300

>>108064893
Avoid MSI Ventus/Shadow due to crap cooling and loud fans.

>>108064893
Avoid MSI Shadow (plastic backplate) and Ventus (runs hotter and louder)
Asus Prime is the best entry level card
No experience with Gigabyte but I heard their RMA process sucks

what are my options for a silent htpc?
deskmini with a yuge passive heatsink or a noctua-type cooler with a silent fan? i am giving up on the thin client market because specs vary wildly and i am tired of playing DP to HDMI bingo with intel graphics (nothing fucking works at 60hz)

>>108064893
>Stock
pny for best cooler
asus for the justwerks
msi if you hate yourself

>>108064919
>>108064920
>>108064944
>MSI is... le bad!

>>108064952
this but unironically
also lucky the dragon is trans

>>108064900
check prices for the 9060xt 16gb

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>>108064964
>also lucky the dragon is trans
Stop projecting your fag delusions on Lucky.

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>>108064952
yes

>>108064919
>>108064920
>>108064944
Ok avoid Ventus and Shadow, noted.
What about MSI Gaming Trio?

>>108065009
that's a really good model

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>>108064996
>wearing a diaper
lucky is not beating the degenerate allegations

>>108065023
>mistaking the modesty plate to hide his BDC(big dragon cock) with a diaper
self reporting?

>>108065024
>BDC(big dragon cock)
why are you gay?

>>108064893
Get an MSI Expert to feel like the kinda Nigga that buys a 10 year old luxury lexus.

>>108063124
To be fair nuclearr reactors for your datacenters are expensive.

>>108065030
I'm sorry your Lucky figurine wasn't born with one :\

>>108065005
>the lowest and third lowest temps on your graph are also msi
Surely you could cherrypick better

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>>108065048
uh oh

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>>108064040
>gpus come with full blown lcds now

>>108064542
You have Micron, funded by your tax dollars
They took a shit on your face to chase the bubble like everyone else

>>108065077
inb4 cxmt price matches their ram to profitmaxx and chinese dram copers start committing sudoku en masse

>>108064467
Yeah and I’d rather buy thr expensive ram over the piece of crap that’s teh 9060 xt
stop shilling that crap

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>>108065063
Retvrn

>>108065077
Dubs of truth. You guys need China/IIIrd Reich type socialism where heads of massive corpos have to answer the State about their strategies and how it benefits your own people.

>>108065077
So Americans love socialism?

>>108064118
sure

I feel like such a jackass building a rig now, nonetheless I can afford it and I want it now

>>108065211
I would take the time to consider the cost of a custom build vs a prebuilt right now.

>>108065155
Some of them, sure. It's 150 millions people plus immigrants.

>>108064992
>9060xt 16gb
$513 for asus dual(just dual)

>>108064141
oh no no no

thinking about buying 1 million petabytes of cl34 ddr5. laffing @ u poors

Every shortage is followed by a glut

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>>108065405
Waitfags are pathological masochists who will never buy unless something breaks, no matter how poor their experience is and how much time they waste staring at price points they can't afford anyway.

Thanks for confirming my suspicions with your cope-post.

>>108064040
Why do builds that look like this seem so rare now?

>>108065405
The glut will be oceans of unsold 9600xt 8gb.

>>108065405
This isn't the real shortage yet 8^)

>>108065405
You do not understand the level of investment the richest companies are doing on this ONE fucking thing and they all want the same resource

>>108065498
>investment
It's the korean race. the non-white races are by their nature la familia ie mafia.

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>>108065498

>>108065554
Even if they do this that memory is not going to hit the shelves anytime in 2026. There's no hope this year

>>108065335
halp

>>108065651
with those prices just get a 5070

Fractual Meshify 3 Ambience.
Yay or nay?

>>108065089
lel
https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20260204PD210/market-dram-nand-cxmt-ddr4.html

>>108065774
sure

>>108065779
Nigger

>5070ti
???

>>108065651
I'd rather buy used than any of your options at those pricepoints. Or go back in time and get a 9060 for 350.

>the year of our Lord 2025+1
>not a single fucking decent high refresh rate 4K card by AMD for under $1000

Why can't AMD just make it. We already have high end 4K refresh rate mini led monitors for $400.

9070xt is only a 4080 competitor.
There needs to be an AMD 5090.

Yes there's upscaling and FSR4 which is better than native 1440p and is like DLSS 3.5 but it's not enough.

ain't gonna be no more new consumer gpus ever probably, no use wishing for an amd 5090

>>108066079
Actually if you match iamge quality the 9070 XT is mostly at around a 4070 ti

>>108066079
Extrapolating 9070xt's shader count to 8192, a big chip 500-600w GPU would certainly compete favorably to a 5080, except Nvidia already has a GB202 with 14080 cuda cores for workstations, they can just rebrand it to 5080ti with 24GB vram and effortlessly beat the big navi chip without breaking a sweat.
Nvidia's GB202 has every core config laid out to counter any AMD high end chip. Since there is a lack of competition, most of the configs are used for workstation/servers.

>>108065774
get the XL so it fits a 360 AIO on top.

>>108066136
thats why they need to price it aggressively. The 5090 Goyslaver is literally 5x the price of a 9070xt last i checked, ridiculous.

>>108066079
amd's gonna have to make a 900mm2 chip to have it be as fast and efficient in perf/w as the 5090
aint nobody's gonna pay $1800 for an amd gpu that's gonna be obsoleted by udna in upscaling features

>>108066136
9070xt is a bad example since its factory oc'd too hard. the 9070 non-xt is about as efficient as a 5080 but also has worse perf/mm2

>>108065063
>you can literally use the computer without an external monitor

When did GPUs stop being packaged with their branded sticker to put on your case?

>>108066284
It will detract from the fishtank look.

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I'm sizing up new monitors to replace the one I've been using for I think now going on two decades

Learnt that comparing curved vs. flat is pretty much also comparing VA vs. IPS, and saw this comparison

Is the effect really that harsh? Or I also saw the GIF is five years old, have things improved in newer screens?

How retarded would it be to buy a chinese cheap 1440p IPS 180hz refresh display, it's $120

>>108066355
Depends on the model, theres some faster pixel response time vas out there. the modern minileds with va panels tend to be better than the cheap stuff

oled is usually the best option for gamers at least

>>108066369
Be ready to ship it back for the inevitable dead pixel return.

>>108066369
Youll get your money's worth.

Noise autists who put their cpu under heavy load: which CPU coolers do you use?

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Is OLED gaming worth the price premium?

How much of an upgrade is it from something like Fast IPS Miniled?

Also don't you get annoyed by VRR flickering?

>>108066545
I mean, OLEDs aren't that expensive.

>>108066545
VRR flicker is an occasional annoyance when some program doesnt have steady fps. Like a producitivity thing that goes between 5 to 60 fps randomly.
Or some porn game where it does the same extreme fluctuation, prob because the dev doesnt own an oled and cant see it when making the game.
Most real games wont cause problems

>>108064040
Thinking if buying a prebuilt, how's this one for gaming?
https://www.cybertek.fr/univers-gamer/pc-assembles/pc-gamer-cybertek-1912-163065.aspx

>>108066591
should be good for 1080p 120hz gaming with dlss quality

>>108066591
>16Go DDR4
>1 To SSD NVMe
>RTX 5060Intel
>I5 12600KF
its like a mid tier pc from 2018

I can see the ram being sold from local retailer for 150€ so that would leave 750€ for all other parts
I personally wouldnt buy a <12gb vram gpu in 2026
Id get 2tb nvme
Id get am5 x3d cpu
ram is tolerable for this situation but am5 ddr5 32gb fpr 100€ was the norm couple months ago

>>108066545
VRR flicker is way more annoying on IPS & VA than OLED.

>>108064040
Are you seriously recommending Chinese monitors? They're riddled with bugs and quality control problems.

Anyway I was thinking of buying the AOC U27G4XM but I'm not sure if MBR works good enough at 60hz. Reviewers are doing a really bad job testing MBR.

>>108066542
I'd say I'm pretty noise autistic.
I went with a 420mm BeQuiet Silent Loop 3.
It's okay. It's not the most performant cooler. Not the quietest cooler. Not the quietest cooler. Somewhere in-between.

Coolers are very hard to gauge, I find. They're all largely sufficient for the task at hand and the only real benefit you're getting is 1-2 degrees more distance from a thermal throttling threshold you'll probably never hit.
Reviews all do stupid shit like "Oi m8, we put this cooler in an open-air test bench and had just it cooling the CPU" and it's like, yeah no shit that's loud, the case absorbs noise and the airflow in your case will aid the cooling of the cooler itself.
db as a metric for sound itself is also kinda useless. High-pitch sounds are more perceptible than lower sounds, even if it is at higher volumes. But none of them measure the frequency of sound. So, it's like "Yeah, this one is better it's only 43db" and it's 43db of ringing tinnitus.

This is an entirely unhelpful post to say much else other than "It doesn't really matter".
If you want quieter idle noise, get the biggest metal tower you can get and have a good quality fan push air through it.
If you want better heat dissipation when needed, get the biggest AIO you can get and put some nice fans in it.

>>108066545
Idk about Nvidia or Intel but you can enable Freesync globally and keep it off per game. The display still syncs up according to the OS and doesn't tear but it doesn't flicker or increase input lag anymore. I tested this extensively in Counter Strike 2, Cyberpunk, & other AL2 games on both Windows and Linux.

>>108066630
Only VA and OLED has flicker

It's basically a non issue on IPS

Does anyone know why the MSI x570A Pro is so hard to find nowadays? I have been trying to find one for my secondary build but I just can't find it anywhere.

>>108066705
The backlights on LCDs strobe like crazy. OLEDs have no backlight. Per pixel dimming is different and varies on your panel and setup. Everyone knows Gsync is a buggy mess compared to AMD and Vesa on Linux & Windows.

>>108066726
they're only really making b550 these days to serve the lowend market

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$750 Acer prebuilt: https://ebay.us/m/TOZGwL
>14400F
>5060
>16gb ram, probably 5200
>1tb gen4 nvme
>unknown 650w gold psu
>single tower cooler
>case looks fine
>unknown motherboard
>microcenter link for info: https://www.microcenter.com/product/700600/acer-nitro-60-n60-640-ur21-desktop-computer

or ~$1,250 build, with a microcenter bundle(THIS IS MOSTLY PLACEHOLDERS: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YjgPxf
>7600X, maybe 9600X, that kind of tier CPU
>5060 TI 16GB
>1x16gb 6000/36 ram, maybe could get a 32gb bundle IDK
>good 1TB drive like a 990 pro, maybe would jump to 2TB, w/e
>good dual tower cooler
>good case, like a lancool 207
>good PSU
>good motherboard

Thoughts? I really don't want to build anything anymore and frankly I barely have the money to do it, but at the same time I know how corners are cut on prebuilts and I don't want to end up with some POS either.

>>108066611
Thanks, that should do.

>>108066612
I'm a poorfag waitfag getting fucked by a stroke of bad luck, I can't afford to spare more than 1k€ atm and I need a PC asap because the CPU and the SATA ports on my current 14 y.o. build are dying.

>>108066792
I'd probably go with the Acer prebuilt and save the money for a GPU upgrade when/if you need it.
The only thing that's going to make an actual noticeable difference here is the GPU, and it's not worth spending $500 to get a TI at the end of your 5060.

5060 is fine for a while yet as long as you're not planning on 4K gaming. And hopefully by the time you need something better, GPU prices won't be so bad.

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If you didn't dodge out of the way of this obvious and slow moving train anytime in the last few months you deserve to pay even higher prices

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My new build

>>108066792
>1st build
1080p60 gaming for 1-2 years

>2nd build
1440p gaming for 1-2 years

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>>108066848
BLACKED

>>108066848
why are you taking picture of it when you couldnt even get a white gpu + cables

>>108066745
>they're only really making b550 these days to serve the lowend market
Now that really sucks.

>>108066871
White gpu was 300 more and white only psu in atm was msi 850w that has a big fail rate so I skipped that and bought a seasonic unit

Builder from the OP's picture here, just finished my 45 minute Prime95 Small FFTs + Furmark VK test. You can add me to the list as far as "The Phantom Spirit 120 has fans that sound like an aeroplane" is concerned. Once the Zephyr's on the GPU spooled down, I could definitely here that resonance sound on the Thermalright fans at 1500 RPM, less noticeable at 1200 RPM.

The heatsink is doing as much of the heavy lifting in compensating for the restricted airflow of the Pure Base 600 as much as the case is dampening the high-pitched noise I could faintly hear if I put my ear to the 1-notch lifted top panel.

My fan configuration was the stock Pure Wings 2 in the back, the 140mm in the bottom front, the P14 Pro in the middle front tied to the CPU temps (and RPMs), and the Mistral 140mm on the rear top exhaust. All the DC fans were set to low speed.

Case definitely seems to be doing the job of making the whole thing sound like just air moving rather than bearing/motor noise of the fans, especially for the Pure Wings fans. With the Ryzen pinned to 88W watts it never went past 70-73C with the GPU pinned to 200W with those 3 fans. Pretty much all the PWM fans in the system ran at 1500 RPM. GPU didn't go past the mid-60's and didn't go past 81C on the hotspot.

Gonna test next with the front and top panel removed along with the side panel to get a better comparison for noise and thermals compared to my old mesh front and top case. And then I might look into the cost-benefit of replacing the Thermalright fans with high speed Pure Wings 3 PWM fans, even if that costs another $28 though at that point I could have just gotten a 360mm AIO or a 130-140mm fan cooler so ayy, you get what you pay for.

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Now that the Pulsar dust has settled, did oled win in the end?

>>108066867
that's brown, burgerbro

>>108066871
nta and i have to say that options for white psus are really limited and not great right now if you want something good (i.e. not lian li chink shit)

>>108066907
tl;dw?

>>108066854
i mostly want the 16gb vram for AI porn. i can't imagine 1440p is much of an upgrade from 1080p. the PPI difference is really minimal

>>108066932
The guy on the thumbnail is a gay who has sex with men with aids as a way to substitute being pregnant

>>108066900
at least buy white 3rd party cables and some sort of white gpu shroud thing from temu so girls wont laugh at your pc

>>108066545
>Is OLED gaming worth the price premium?
If you buy on good deals there is not even any premium, oleds have been cheaper in the same bracket multiple times or very close, in fact 4k240hz does not even have any competition outside of a shitty IPS LG monitor 27" or a ancient 32" VA Samsung
Yes LCD Slop is that overpriced
just buy on a deal

the real problem comes after - can you cope with fringing text/eyestrain / oled pixel refresh shenaningans ?

>How much of an upgrade is it from something like Fast IPS Miniled?
oled has uniform "expected performance" across all monitors, since the tech is inherent in the display, miniled to miniled depends on how good the manufacturere has implemented those features so who the fuck knows? plus you shouldnt use the dimming in windows and so on because it's shit, in short its probably shit

>Also don't you get annoyed by VRR flickering?
yeah vrr flicker on oled looks horrendous, maybe u can escape it or not by locking fps minimums, worst case scenario disable it

>>108066932
he preferred oled due to being the better tech and strobing meme not being enough to overcome oled and benefits, plus the monitors cost too much since you can buy oled for the same
pulsar strobing not giving eye strain but still visual fuck ups after long gaymen seshs

>>108066959
So virgin forever??

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>>108066905
I don't know why noise-sensitive people even bother with Thermalright coolers/fans; the fans are their weakness.
It wasn't even a sub-$40 cooler for your purchase.

>>108066854
xx60 GPUs are literally all you need though. we have framegen now. we have upscaling now. you do not need more.

>>108066938
if you're doing AI then you should grab the Ti 16gb then. those 16 models might not last at nvidia actually announced they are focusing on 8gb 5060 and 12gb 5070 this year to cope with the vram shortage

>>108066905
Keep the Thermalright fans running at under 1200 RPM if the most stressful shit your CPU handles is some shader compilation from time to time.
You bought it to "save money", so do it.

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>3000 hours (he used it for 2 years) (rookie numbers)
>that's 1 year of mon-fri 12 hour days only
>burned in overwatch logo thing and some other shit during full screen color backgrounds only
>real content you have to look for it

>>108067013
framegen doesn't feel good (floaty feeling poor framtimes) if you don't have decent base frames. you should at least 60 fps first

maybe dynamic frame gen will fix this this spring

>>108067019
They will most likely stop all production of models below the 5090.

>>108066967
Yeah how can you tell if oled eyestrain will fuck you up?

I tried backlight strobing on my TN and got headaches

Then again Pulsar uses this technology too right (ELMB)

>>108067032
what a noob
i noticed 21:9 border burn-ins within a month of using my first gen qdoled

>>108067019
is local AI actually good, or is it like something you do for 30 minutes and realize it's janky and not good and you never do it again?

>>108067033
nigga, you cannot be this picky whilst deciding if you want a 5060 or a 5060Ti.

>>108067003
>I don't know why noise-sensitive people even bother with Thermalright coolers/fans; the fans are their weakness.
Which is why for most CPUs, the be quiet! option might have been better given the fans are probably at least half of their value, but the Pure Rock 3 also underperforms relative to its price so despite it being good value on one hand it also wasn't.
>It wasn't even a sub-$40 cooler for your purchase.
No, because we have taxes here. As far as air coolers go, it was actually a pretty standard price for one. The omnipresent Hyper 212 for instance retailed at 50-55 dollars here for years.

Choice seemed limited and it's pretty much exclusively 240mm and 360mm AIO's upwards from that price. Going up another 28$ from the price of that Phantom Spirit among air coolers would have probably at most given you a Royal Pretor, another Thermalright product or some local brands, oh and the AK620. Then there's the Pure Loop 3 at 77 dollars, some MSI MAG AIOs, and some Cooler Master AIOs.

>>108067060
>Yeah how can you tell if oled eyestrain will fuck you up?
just like the matrix nobody can tell you what the matrix is you have to see it for yourself
glossy qdoled CAN give eyestrain, matte will reduce the strain (in my experience)
if you can't cope your next step is getting a woled panel instead

>I tried backlight strobing on my TN and got headaches
>Then again Pulsar uses this technology too right (ELMB)
pulsar pulses in strips like crt not full screen strobing though which did not give the bald man in the picture a head ache like old strobing methods but still eye artifacts after using monitor for prolonged time

>>108067061
one month? did the panel refreshes trigger?
seems pretty extreme
those early ones maybe were worse too

>>108067020
>You bought it to "save money", so do it.
I bought it mostly because it was the best performing air cooler within a pretty typical and reasonable price bracket so I'm not even sure if it really counts as that save for the well-performing but rather unpleasantly sounding fans. Stuff like the Dark Rock Elite which it trades blows with is at least another $80 more. That leaves only AIOs for which the Liquid Freezer 3 360 retails at $120 here now.

>>108067060
>Yeah how can you tell if oled eyestrain will fuck you up?
Buy the monitor from a retailer with a good return policy and test it during the product return period.
Amazon is pretty safe; they're too big to bitch about returns unless your account has a history of frequent product returns.

>>108067098
You're going to complain about the LF3's pump noise, don't bother.
This is coming from an LF3 owner, Arctic basically has to make a brand new pump + housing, and better mounting solution for the LF4.
Just buy a cooler with the biggest metal heatsink if you're a noise schizo, Noctua fans are an obvious bonus.
Noctua coolers are expensive, but you rarely read accounts of their fans breaking even past their 5~6 year warranty.

>>108067078
Bro a good cooler is like $100 and lasts like 10 years.
Just buy something nice and never worry about it again.

>>108067013
5060 is honestly so slow that i wouldn't bother. it can't even get a solid 60 at 1080 in newer games.

>>108067100
What if you live somewhere where you can't return anything unless it's literally broken when you got it

>>108067123
The 5060 gets 60+ FPS in Blacked Myth Wukang and Dragon's Dogma at maxed with no RT at 1080p. What are you talking about?

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Barely used kc3000 2tb for ~160 usd
Brand new G.skill 2x24gb 6400 cl32 ddr5 for ~210 usd from amazon

Have both arrived and were indeed not scams and are legitimate.

>>108067116
>This is coming from an LF3 owner, Arctic basically has to make a brand new pump + housing, and better mounting solution for the LF4.
Which is pretty much why I again, pretty much did not bother with liquid cooling for the pump noise/reliability and possibility of gunk buildup.
>Just buy a cooler with the biggest metal heatsink if you're a noise schizo,
Somewhat what I just did with the PS120, swapping the fans would have still been cheaper than the next step up which simply did not have enough of an uplift in performance to justify the cost from the way I read the market.
>you rarely read accounts of their fans breaking even past their 5~6 year warranty.
Yep, which is why the longest standing builds I've seen especially from big old cases from the late 2000s or early 2010s frequently featured them, their 20cm fans for instance being one of a kind.
>>108067120
>Bro a good cooler is like $100 and lasts like 10 years.
Can you name your example please? The NH-D15 G2 is about the cost of a brand new CPU over here, and that would probably be the only meaningful improvement in air cooling over this dual tower, assuming it would fit in my cases. As for lasting 10 years, the Hyper 212 Evo/Turbo certainly did so for their originally intended use. Actually, I might strap on those xtraflow fans in place of the Thermalright fans just for shits and giggles out of curiosity.

>>108067032
Not bad considering he's an 80% to Maximum Brightness Bro®.

>>108067123
The only reason the 5060ti was being pushed was because of the cheap 16gb.

Now nvidia needs to start upping the margin on cards without upping the prices. So say good bye to the 50 series.

Nvidia is literally retarded.

do you still need nvidia for local AI or is that old news? AMD just released the AI bundle thing.

>>108067175
AMD cards are absolutely trash for anything besides older games.

>>108067146
The most sensible option for you is to set up a fan curve that doesn't stay too long in that 1200~1500RPM resonance band.
Set the 0~60°C range to the most silent + fastest fan RPM
You need to decide whether you prefer the fan to run louder or deal with the resonance in the 70~85°C band.
80% or max RPM past 85°C.

You bought the wrong cooler for the job if it needs to run regularly at a loud fan RPM (if you planned for a relatively silent PC build)..

>>108067175
9070 XT should provide a serviceable experience, depending on your expectations.

>>108067190
i want fast videogenning

>>108067196
Rtx 6000 blackwell

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>splash on 16gb vram gpu
>open ai crashing and burning

dont worry lads soon you will have cheap pc parts
you can thank me later.

>>108067147
not good but depends how long it takes until you see the burn in all content and just not in selected full screen color images and look for it, aka the point where it might get annoying
that's why I wanna buy one oled on a deep discount so you don't feel totally cucked when it fucks up and and that point you can use it as a side monitor and then it will really have burn in running static content non stop at the side
damn I want my stores to bring back the deals

>>108067200
What happened to RTX 8000?

>>108067181
AMD cards are even trash in older games for lacking physx hardware acceleration

>>108067221
the old rtx6000 was redundant for having the same core specs but half the vram of the rtx8000 so it got discontinued and replaced by the new rtx6000 that has the full vram spec as the old rtx8000

>>108067200
Fuck. Maybe local AI isn't worth the money.

>>108067129
Visit stores with display showrooms, see the products for yourself.
Be sure of what you're buying into, look for positive & negative owner feedback, etc.

Ask yourself why you're considering OLED to begin with.
A decent IPS monitor is good enough for SDR content. especially with bias lighting behind it to fool your eyes.

>>108067129
HDR is for movies and shows, not video games or desktop software. you're literally falling for a meme.

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Vertical Risers for GPU?
Yes/No?

Use built-in vertical in my case (but gets really close to side door, which has no mesh or holes)
OR
buy a kit that converts my horizontal pcie to vertical mounting BUT brings the GPU closer to the motherboard?

Thoughts?

Same thread is still up. Was 4chinz down or is /pcbg/ just that slow right now

>>108067175
I tried running the SAM 3D Body model on my 9070 XT and it surprisingly works without warnings and errors, even in WSL.

>>108067285
This is supposed to be a slow general if the shitposters are absent.
It's even slower because most people are priced out of building PCs right now.

>>108067305
The shitposters >>108066729 are here though

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>>108067123
>>108067148
5060 16Gb is trap for idiots
t. idiot
cant wait for it to sell but I dont have replacement lined up due to current situation and I would want at least 5070ti or so if nothing else I Will pick 5070 for cheap

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>>108067071
it's a little jank but it's an important part of the modern gooning ecosystem along with multiple free grok accounts churning out voiced JOI/softcore gens, and local LLM erp

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DREAM IS DEAD

The Steam Machine Has Been Delayed Because Stupid Little Babies Can't Stop Using AI To Write Their Emails

>>108067255
>HDR is for movies and shows, not video games
Incorrect. Video games are great with HDR if they have it. I recently played RE:VIllage with HDR on my OLED

>>108067326
The 5060 Ti 16 GB isn't a bad card if you have it. Not worth buying anything in RTX 50 as an upgrade for gaming. Need 2x base GPU perf for an upgrade to be worthwhile

>>108067341
>email

holy unc

>>108066805
I wouldn't buy from Cybertek mon ami. It's the parent company of Grosbill and no one as anything good to say about Grosbill's customer service.

I'll get this guy instead, not blinking twice:
https://www.vinted.fr/items/7044660268-pc-gaming-trabalho-pronto-a-usar?referrer=catalog

So 2026 AI CapEx is looking like it'll be ~$500-570B from the "big" four (Google/Amazon/Microsoft/Meta).

For reference, 2024 CapEx was ~$200B, and 2025 was ~$380B.

And global AI CapEx is looking to hit ~$2.5T in 2026 of which ~$1.4T is going directly to the datacenters/silicon.

Unless this bubble pops very soon, there is too much momentum, and we're probably fucked on consumer hardware going forward.

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>want to build a gaming pc as student
>too expensive, no money
>wait till i get a job and then i will enjoy a proper pc
>want to build a gaming pc as a working adult
>too expensive, feels like huge waste of money (at least 2.5-3k yuroshekels without peripherals), graphics cards are now alone worth as a gaming pc when i was a student
wtf bros? i will never have a gayman dream pc, am i?

>>108067439
Gayming is gay anyway. You're not missing much

>>108067347
yeah, but most don't, or it's not implemented well.

>>108067439
>5-6k desktop
>5-6k for a 83" oled
>1-3k for 1-3x 240-500hz oled monitors
now you are read to compete(tm)/play the game

>>108067256
Vertical risers are fine.
Depends on the specific GPU, but most run so cool these days that that slightly suboptimal airflow isn't going to kill it. If you've got a case big enough to fit one, chances are the airflow is fine.
There's pros and cons beyond that. But, generally it's a better mounting solution to prevent sag than relying on support sticks or whatever.

Just make sure the PCI-E cable is the right gen.

>>108067439
time to fire up that geforce now sub and enjoy rt gaming

>>108067439
Well I mean you are trying to buy a computer at the worst time to buy a computer in like the past two years or so.

I want to test my CPU temps based on having my PC doing different things with the fans, what's a benchmarking tool I can use to put a consistent load on the CPU and record/track the temps over time?

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and how is fatman planning to sell these gaymachines? these specs seem outdated on arrival, ain't it?

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>>108067584
>>108067256
I have a 5070 Ti

See image
Dots indicate mount holes for a 90 degree PCB pcie riser adapter where I'd put the riser and have it slide into the case's native vertical slots

>plug in my wattage meter finally
>turns out my system has been idling at 100w since 2019 this whole time
DAMN!!!!!!!!

>>108067625
They're essentially for the games Steamies play, like CS and DotA. AAA games will not run well because the APU is weak and it doesn't even have FSR 4 to save it

>>108067439
when you're a kid you have nothing but time and want to do stuff, but have no money or freedom

when you're an adult you finally have the money, but don't want to waste your money/time on kid stuff anymore

the answer is to be content with low res/low fps/low settings so you don't have to spend much money and it doesn't feel like a waste. anything worth playing runs on a laptop iGPU. pc building is a meme at this point.

>>108064040
I'm using a rig with a q9650 and an ati 4870 with 4gb ddr3 on arch linux rn with dwm and its fucking amazing, I can do everything on it and I can play my mirrors edge n shiet; I tossed out my $2000 3900x 6700xt rig for this and I use a CRT Monitor and got a floppy and cd drive.

My second machine is a ThinkPad T420 which I Librebooted, I dont gotta libreboot my desktop because the q9650 lacks a full network stack.

>>108067371
>Not worth buying anything
at this point it will be never
>>108067420
people are cheering Oracle and Open AI failing but big four is marching forward and gaining speed

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>>108065675
the 5070 is at $730
still?
>>108066052
the used market doesn't exists here or they are asking $800 for 8g cards cuz most of these retards bought at the peak of the cryptobros's coom

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>>108067660
Huh, that is weirdly close to the window.
I mean, it's probably fine. People used to run SLI with cards literally touching each other. You're only moving air at the end of the day.

>>108067326
No it has a usecase

5070 can't do AI as good. it can do it faster yes but it will be ramgated by more complex stuff.

5070 if pure 1440p gaming. 5060ti 16 if you also do productivity stuff like LLM, 4k video editing, blender and so on with entry 1440p. That's what's it for. Without 5060ti you'd have to buy a 5070ti at least for a 16gb vram requirement

>>108067747
>People used to run SLI with cards literally touching each other.
the titan may have been a beast back in the day, but in 2026 clown world a mere 4070ti has way higher power draw

>>108067747
I'll risk the $80 for a TRYX 300mm and hope it works
Wish me luck

>>108067804
the era of the discrete GPU cannot end soon enough.

>>108066545
OLED is for watching movies and tv, thats all

I know that AMD is the gaming king when it comes to CPUs. However, I do video editing a lot making heavy use of Intel's Quicksync. If I got the ultra 9 285k, would my gaming be horribly impacted?

>>108066545
pulsar monitor, or if you're on linux with amd just get any 240hz 1440p IPS.
4k is not a gaming resolution. oled is not a desktop monitor technology.

>>108068091
what do the benchmarks show? does the hardware work with the software you need to run?
intel runs hotter, is less efficient, and has worse performance. performance gaps are not to the level of being able to play the games or not. it's not like you're comparing an AthlonX2 to a 9800X3D

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>>108068101
>4k is not a gaming resolution
why are you posting from 1998
>oled is not a desktop monitor technology.
only half decent point but still a cope if you ppimaxx or rgbstripemaxx

>>108068122
reminder that pulsar is 1440p.

how long did it take for freesync to come out after gsync?
how long did it take for gsync to not become hardware locked?
how long did it take for each of these technologies to come to linux?

I'm trying to decide if it's worth buying a monitor this year or if it's a waiting time.

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>>108068156
>how long did it take for freesync to come out after gsync?
>how long did it take for gsync to not become hardware locked?
>how long did it take for each of these technologies to come to linux?

>>108068122
5090 can barely do 4k 40fps Wukong with raytracing ultra lol

that fact is GPUs have not kept up with monitor technology

also your apps and stream videos are gonna look shit tiny at 4k because 1080p is still standard

>>108068121
>performance gaps are not to the level of being able to play the games or not
Adobe Suite, Davinci Resolve, VM software, Intel's Quicksync GPU accelerated rendering, etc are all better on Intel. I do play games though so I wanted to make sure that I wasn't cucking myself 100% in the gaming department. I can technically use AMD for all my things, but it's more work for certain things and I'd have to invest far more money into a GPU to gain access to Nvidia's CUDA, or deal with AMD's garbage gpu hardware acceleration. I already bought an Intel Arc B580 GPU because I got it for a steal.

Puget systems is basically saying the 9950X3D and the Ultra 9 285k are trading blows depending on the software being tested. I figured since I want Quicksync support, it only makes sense to get an Intel

>>108064040
>Arctic P12 Pro
Are these still the all-around best?
Better than Thermalright, Corsair, Cooler Master, AirFlow, etc?

>>108068189
didn't you hear? native is dead.
but yeah ill take 1440p high hz over 4k sub-100 fps any day.

Are there ITX cases out there which are meant to have a tiny cramped layout with no wasted space, except just ever so slightly bigger so that fans can be placed inside? It always seems with these ITX cases that the components like the GPU are the intake fans by themselves.

>>108068129
and

>>108068189
defending against buying a 4k native panel is 1998 behavior
your only defense is certain title at native 4k does x fps therefor it's useless is straight out of 1998

>also your apps and stream videos are gonna look shit tiny at 4k because 1080p is still standard
more knowledge from 1998 delivered here
what is physical screen size and scaling

why are people like this? unironically

>>108068228
good thing you can buy 4k 240/480 1080p dual mode, or 1440p 500hz, or just 4k 240

>>108067729
Nigger, all those prices are equally ass. Except 5060ti, that one is especially ass. Just pick based on how much performance you need, you're getting fucked ~equally. If you want all those gay gaymer technologies NVidia has get the 5070, if not get the intel or 9060. Also, 9060 uses only 1x8-pin and has decent gains over the intel while keeping the power consumption still low if that's something you care about.

>>108068276
his certain title is actually one of the better examples
plenty dont even hit 30 fps 4k native on the 5090
like cp

>>108068276
>4k 240 hz
lmfao even a 5090 with ultra performance dlss can't max out that monitor.

>>108068276
you need at least a 5070ti to get 4k 60fps at older games

5 years old Cyberpunk is 50fps with DLSS RT lol

Your 1080p videos are going to look like shit. I know because they look janky even at 1440p

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>2028

nobody ever talks about the biggest issue, you are required to use desktop scaling because all the 4k monitors are too small, so you're paying for 4k, your being taxed for 4k performance, but your real resolution is always 1440p or lower.

>>108068357
Hell yeah.
5080 gonna be the goat for YEARS

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xBL48Z

Uses are video editing (I use Intel Quicksync extensively for rendering/encoding), VM work, compiling, and lastly, gaming. I already purchased the GPU.
>inb4 over paying for certain things
I know I'm overpaying for the CPU cooler and fans vs just going Thermalright or Arctic, but I've been through idk how many fans over the years because I kept buying cheap garbage. Same with the PSU. I've lost a PC in the past because the PSU couldn't handle a blackout.

>>108068156
>>108068181
so optimistic projection is 2 years for amd/linux.
maybe this is too hard for amd to reproduce so it could take longer though.

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>>108068276
>what is physical screen size and scaling
i love my 1440p ultrawide, but the scaling is STILL dogshit even today, and Steam STILL hasn't updated this, and perusing the forums still requires me to lean forward and squint at the screen on max scaling.

4k is objectively worse at this, its one of the reasons i don't see myself using it anytime soon.

Also i don't need it, simple as, the pixels on my 1440p ultrawide aren't visible unless i put my eyes on the screen directly. Thats all you need for decent viewing.

1080poverty though is another matter, whoever still uses that is cringe and poor.

>>108068416
>ultrawide
lost ark enthusiast lul

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>>108068399
somehow the jeet tier 4060 usurped the 3060 on steam hw survey in january though with an explosive nearly +0.5% share of ALL gpus in just a single month.

What the actual fuck? It's barely any faster and has 66% of the vram...

just buy 4k tv

>>108068430
lost ark was unplayable in my country, i liked it, but the ping was atrocious, no OCE servers for a nip game, ridiculous. Lesson learned, i never touch an online game that doesnt support OCE servers on launch anymore.

>>108068232
You can sneak in intake and exhaust fans for sandwich ITX cases like the Terra and T60. Aside from those, others will rely on an AIO cooler for exhaust like the T1 and A4-H2O.

>>108068322
>you have to hit 240 4k native on all titles that drop instantly, forever, to make this display spec worth it
tired man

>>108068335
>t. 120hz 1080p TN user

>>108068342
>your low quality content will look like ass!
missing the point + cope + it really doesn't + bonus meme just use integer scaling if you are that autistic maybe

just stick with your old ass monitors lads if these are the copes thinly veiled as arguments you have

>>108068364
>you are required to use desktop scaling because all the 4k monitors are too small
32" I'd say you don't
the windows ui is kinda weird tho, I feel like some elements are fine but web browsing you could use more scaling in general use
it's a choice
32" is good for the space and totally usable

>so you're paying for 4k
plenty cheaper than 1440p panels

>your being taxed for 4k performance
in most of your usecases except native 4k there is no taxation for the use
and a 4k panel can render lower resolutions just fine

>but your real resolution is always 1440p or lower.
except you have 2.2x the pixels of 1440p

>>108068416
>and perusing the forums still requires me to lean forward and squint at the screen on max scaling.
? zoom scale, or are u talking about some steam shit issue I have no idea
seems like a them problem

>4k is objectively worse at this, its one of the reasons i don't see myself using it anytime soon.
if niche things are cucking you that point

>Also i don't need it
dont need anything but the space and ppi is nice to have
in fact most all people should consider 4k240 as the minimum now a days

>>108068436
whole set of other problems
but yea

>>108068566
>>you have to hit 240 4k native on all titles that drop instantly, forever, to make this display spec worth it
yeah that's exactly what i said great job.
ironically with your obsession about 1998 that's also the last time 30 fps was considered acceptable.

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How do I oil this shit? Started making an awful noise

Trying to build a new PC is going to drive me utterly fucking insane.

>>108068613
just drop some sewing machine oil in bearings
or better yet throw the fan in the garbage and put a new one in they're cheap asf

Should I base a new build on DDR4 support or exclusive DDR5 support in this ongoing apocalyptic shortage? I only have DDR4 but its old.

>>108068410
>Cooler
Nothing wrong with it per se but it's in a weird spot value-wise. It doesn't meaningfully outperform the cheap Thermalrights if you care about that and, if you don't, there's the D15 G2. I guess fine if you just want a premium cooler "in black".

>Mobo
Do make sure this has enough juice to drive a 285K. A quick look at the VRM setup says "maybe" but it'd be a terrible thing to end up power throttling for the sake of $50.

>Case
That's a very old model. Fine to keep if you're reusing it but consider Meshify/Pop 2/Define R7 if not.

>Fans
Personally I'd just replace them as and when. Especially if you go with a more modern case since they tend to come with better fans as standard.

Rest looks mostly fine in context. Obviously price-shop the commodity components on the day but the ones you have look decent.

>>108068613
You pull it, one hand on the side you're showing, the other hand pulling the core the other side, or carefully pulling from 2-3 blade base.

>>108068613
Bruh, it's a fan, order a new one.

>>108068621
talk to a therapist then about your procrastination problems. Its not hard.

>>108068636
>>108068677
Got zero money
>>108068658
Will try. I fear that I might broke it

What the fuck do you people AI generate with these builds anyway? What's worth supporting what will destroy your prospects of ever building a new PC again?

>>108068566
dumb monitor schizo faggot

>>108068693
It isn't a procrastination problem. I bought a build, but I'm not sure if the build will be good enough for what I need to do, and the price difference between returning it and springing for something better is like $300 and so I'm sort of considering returning everything and going in a different direction.

>>108068710
Do you think we're the ones using AI...?

https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-arc-b390-panther-lake-linux

INTEL WON
INTEL DOMINATION

>>108068720
I granted the benefit of the doubt by not assuming that anon is playing unoptimized AAA propaganda pieces disguised as games.

>32gb ddr4 3200 cl16
>5060 ti 16gb
these are only components i have, can't return them anymore. no case, psu, cpu, mouse, monitor etc. z690 or z790 ddr4 mobos nonexistent in my country, decentish b760/h670 very rare and getting expensive. i'm a middle aged retard who have never build a pc. I guess it's 5700x or 5800xt then.
should i buy a fullhd or qhd monitor for such a setup?

>>108064044
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/
is this really a good resource?
my only option for motion clarity is TN (which doesn't come in 1440p 240hz?) or OLED?
pulsar doesn't work for me.

>>108068580
>yeah that's exactly what i said great job.
which is literally never happening which only shows how pointless that was
and disregarding everything else that it works on
how can one be so small minded regarding displays
idk
>ironically with your obsession about 1998 that's also the last time 30 fps was considered acceptable.
yeah and now you don't need to use the same tech and cope with = native res since higher res panels can use lower non native res just fine no problem
time moves on

>>108068714
can't people just move on from 1998 level knowledge though

>>108068714
also I forgot
>t. 1080p 24" tn 60hz user

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>>108068319
>Nigger, all those prices are equally ass
kayy... Will go for the intel since it has more vram for the price then.

>>108068276
1998 was unironically a better year than now.
Kill yourself.

>>108068710
how do they sell AI products if there's no consumer?
women lack the ability to think about the future. stop being a woman.

>>108068755
You can just say you're retarded next time.

>>108068770
>which is literally never happening which only shows how pointless that was
>and disregarding everything else that it works on
>how can one be so small minded regarding displays
>idk
holy shit you're actually too retarded to realize i was making fun of you putting words i didn't say in my mouth. I'm sorry for overestimating your reading comprehension, i guess this is just the absolute state of 4k luddites.

>>108068784
>intel gpu
I hope you like troubleshooting.

>>108067673
>it doesn't even have FSR 4 to save it
Wdym? Will it run windows instead of linux?

>spend days searching for a good PSU >=1200W that won't explode, have QC issues lottery, or other shit, and that's actually affordable
>come up with nothing but compromises and RMA lottery tickets
>miss this sale today
fuckmyniggerlife.jpg
https://computers.woot.com/offers/fully-modular-atx-3-0-power-supply-unit-1

>>108064040
> DDR4: 3200CL16, 3600CL18
2x16GB 3600CL16 also works smoothly.

>>108068859
Dumbass , Google if you're that stupid

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>>108068873
You're retarded for passing on Super Flower PSUs because (one guy) was unlucky.

>>108068873
just buy memesonic gold or platinum. psu is the only part in the entire pc which can last decades and which is definitely not worth saving on.

>>108068876
3200CL14 and 3600CL16 are probably the mythical Samsung B-die. Can't find them on sale anymore.

What’s a good computer monitor for someone who only has space for one monitor that is least likely to develop dead pixels?

Budget isn’t my concern really.

Woot! is selling the Noctua NH-U12A single tower CPU cooler @ $80.
You won't get a higher-quality air cooler at that price.
Good enough to cool a 9800X3D for gaming PCs.
https://computers.woot.com/offers/noctua-nh-u12a-processor-air-cooler-12z-1

A Scythe Mugen 6 dual fan with a similar form factor costs $57 for reference.

>>108068828
I am in a 1050 ti. it is worth it for the price in this shithole
that or swallow my pride and just buy a 5060 non ti for less $10.

what should I put in my front drive bays

>>108067439
Remember that dream PC from when you were student? That's the one you can buy.

>>108068613
Shieet anon, you shouldn't have bought that kind of fans, they don't last longer than a normal, self serviceable one

>>108068930
A 32" 4K monitor, if it makes sense for your desk.
27" 4K or 1440p otherwise.
I'm assuming you're not a gamer, or you have a PC that can run games at upscaled 4K.

>>108069001
anon all of the parts I was looking at are more expensive now than before

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>>108064893
Zotac SOLID (OC) for the second highest power limit of 115% after the more expensive MSI Vanguard SOC with 117%.
Comes with an overkill beefy cooling system, large vapor chamber, 7 heat pipes, massive heat sink, 2kg+ total weight.

>>108068890
The Leadex VII XP seems to be loud as fuck under any meaningful load for one thing, unlike most others. There's also reports of load inbalance if you care about that, and it uses 9-pin plugs that aren't supported by CableMod yet if you wanted a 90 degree cable or something.
>puget systems article
I saw it and sure that's encouraging but without specific models it's still nothing to realiably go by.
There's also how with the NZXT C1200 exploding in a lab you know that HWbusters doesn't necessarily test them under that much stress. Certifications also mean little, none of these account for QC lottery. For example the Asrock PG 1600G is supposedly very good and is made by a reputable OEM but when you check customer reviews, even being paid by Asrock by rebate program it's about half DOA or dead after days, on the Newegg the only shop actually selling those.

>>108068901
Memesonic overcharges out the ass even more than Corsair and it's not even that good to justify it either. At that point you just go Corsair HXi.

Btw what was the issue with be Quiet again? Reviews suggest the Dark Power 14 is good.

>>108069072
...and 5 years warranty oc

>>108068959
>single tower
>4 pipes
Is that better than a Thermalright Phantom Spirit for example? Besides more silent fans.

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>>108065024
>(big dragon cock)

>>108064893
ASUS.
Pleasantly surprised with my Prime model, so very cool, quiet, and no coil whine.

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>>108069107
NTA, it's 7 pipes but has too little thermal mass to matter, barely better than the budget 4 pipe hyper 212.

Why some companies use "rec PSU" instead of fucking TDP so that I can see if my 650 PSU(actually 612 W PSU) can run it with everything else?

casual reminder theres a good reason evga left gayvidia

>>108069152
>175W Heat Load
A 9800X3D's PPT is capped under 165W (TDP * 1.35), and you don't buy this cooler if you plan to run your CPU constantly at above 150W power draw.

>>108069152
>barely better than the budget 4 pipe hyper 212.
Isn't the U12A 78.6 versus the 212's 86.6 there or am I reading it wrong? 8 degrees.
The Peerless Assassin and Phantom Spirit still perform better regardless.

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>>108068923
> 3200CL14
Yes, this is most likely B-die.

> 3600CL16
Not necessarily B-die AFAIK. Picrel from Mindfactory today.
I got a TridentZ 2x16GB kit for just ~€105 in late summer '25.

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>>108069152
The G2 is a big boy

>>108068890
> Corsair, the goyslop of hardware
Not even once.

>>108069197
Oh yeah my bad, U12A has 2 fans, U12S 1 fan. My point stands, Hyper212 with 2 fans would probably be similar, for 1/3 of the price.

>>108069216
Skill issue.

>>108069209
>These are the fat monstrosities Airfags have to buy to get a fraction of the cooling power liquidfags get.

>Asus
>9800x3d
>issues

is this really a thing? same as Asrock?

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>>108069242
airfags sleep tight every night

>>108069216
Corsair actually ships quality power supplies that you can rely on not to explode or arrive dead, even if that's the only thing they do well.

>>108069000
money isn't real

>>108069242
No pump noise. No vibration.

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>>108069188
According to Noctua it's superb for every single big boy CPU even overclocked.
https://www.noctua.at/en/products/nh-u12a/compatibility/cpus?search=14900k

>>108069152
what a dogshit chart. show just a few AIOs and then all the air coolers, or just a few air coolers and all the AIOs.

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>>108068876
>>108068923
>>108069205
3600CL16 was even officially recommended.
I ran 2x2x8GB B-die @3733CL16 until one DIMM died in spring '25.

>>108069152
>$190 D15 G2 vs $35 Phantom Spirit
>1 degree improvement
JUST

So where are the new midrange startup CPU/GPU companies? Is it going to just be AMD, Nvidia and Intel forever?

>>108069318
>Trusting normalization
Regardless it's a huge gap but I'd love to hear both in person, I bet that shit has a bear pulse on the TR like no other
>but I put my PC under my desk
subhuman

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>>108069318
*32€

>>108069326
>bear pulse
Beat pulse
Modern phones and their dog shit retroactive autocorrect need to die
Give me 2019-2022 Android any day over this modern shit

>>108069282
Just throttle it to 2100rpm and you can't hear an ALF3 pump.
Air coolers are always louder and less effective even if shamelessly overpriced like Noctua's.

>>108069326
I have a peerless assassin 120 se, since I bought the 7800x3d on its launch day, and it's not excessively loud. just go watch gamersnexus review he records decibels of coolers.

>>108069252
everything has issues. amd, intel, nvidia.

>>108067208
just wait™ you say ?

are we optimistic about Zen 6 + RDNA 5 APUs?
I'm ready to replace my desktop, and/or grab a laptop, that draws under 100W system power and can game at 90+ fps.

>>108069252
They sell millions of units and just 60 retarded redditors make it an issue?

>>108068224
Not better per se but cost effective.

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It took me years but I finally realised what it is about oledcucks and burn in.

They don't care.

I'm watching the optimum video and the burn in is there, he says it's faint but it's not you can clearly see it, but you can also see he just doesn't give a shit. I don't think this is because he can get a new monitor any time he wants or is confident newer oleds will burn in less. He clearly just does not care if it burns in. If I apply that to all the other people that buy oleds it'll be the same. They don't care. They'll use it anyway, and they'll never switch back or use anything other than OLED. With that it's simple to see that OLED has won.