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Yeah I'm thinking based.
> https://www.darkknightarmoury.com/product-category/clothing-4/cloaks-capes-and-robes/
> https://knightweave.com/products/ranger-cloak-waterproof-edition

>>64815864
>AI slop

>>64815870
Nigga you must be new here. The best /gq/ threads are the ai slop magazine cover threads.

>>64815889
no, theyre dogshit. I fundamentally do understand the use of AI, as you lack the confidence in either your artistic ability or your humor to make a low effort macro or collage in mspaint, so you outsource it to a chatbot who can be blamed instead of yourself for it looking shit or not being funny, but that in of itself is a strong portent of a thread being garbage.

>>64815913
This is gay as fuck dude. Go draw something. Get this twitter bullshit out of here.
>Muh practice
You were a loser in high school, so you drew a bunch of eye balls on your folder, because no one talked to you.

>>64815913
Are you per chance an artist?

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>>64815866
I got your back, cape hero.

>>64815925
>>64815929
SOVLless scum detected

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>>64815929
One does not have to be an artist to be a critic. Everybody is a critic, though few are creators. It is easier to make yourself feel better by being dismissive and abusive of others, than you take the risk of being dismissed or abused bbothers. Creators go farthers back than "the cave" when some proto/k/ bro spit red pigment over his hand upon the cave wall for the first time in history and some other cave faggot said
>your art is shit
Fucking cave faggots every time.

>>64815953
Whatever nerd, just pretend you're 'tired' every day and get in the locker.

>>64815913
Seething 80IQ "artist" newfag detected. /gq/ is AI-friendly zone + bullyzone (for artists and people with shitty gear).

>>64815960
>>64815976
SOVLless faggot, your opinion is worth less than the shit I just launched into the toilet outta my asshole after eating pizza and wings

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>>64815996
I got your SOVL right here
FAAAAAAAAAAAAART

>>64816013
your SOVL is worth less than a fart amplified by a porcelain bowl

/gq/ Infographic Emporium:
https://imgur.com/a/gq-infographic-emporium-1-00-1lZ5xw6
Legacy Infographic Reserve: https://imgur.com/a/k-infographic-reserve-AIKzwWF

>Last time on /gq/, we debated if M855 + M80 plates have a place. China ran out of stock on pimp capes. Two men talked about their excrement and it appears they still are, and Apex lied again.

>QUICK ARMOR GUIDE 2.155
CODE: * = active NIJ-cert, ^ = ICW / non-standalone, DND = do not drop / drop protection is sketchy, ** = military.
>Special Rifle Threat (M855A1, no M80):
Budget: Hesco T212 or L211
Mid-Range: Hesco M210
High-End: Hesco U210 / U211, LSAPI, or Tencate CR-6450SA.
>CONUS Minimum (M80, M855, M193):
Budget: Expired Hesco 3611C, surp SAPI**^, or Gilliam 6001
Mid-Range: Hesco 3612* or 3810*
High-End: Hesco 3811* or 3811LV^DND
Elite: Used Cercom CER-EMH**^
>CONUS Medium (M80 + M855A1 or BZ API):
Budget: Used Protech 2120-5
Mid-Range: Hesco 3411* or LTC 19513
High-End: LTC 28780**
Elite: VelSys PBZSA** or LTC 28791** or Hesco SC3812
Elite-Plus: Used Ceradyne MH3 CQB**^DND (10x M995) or used Cercom CER-SOPS**^
>Tactical Standalone (M855A1 + M80A1):
Budget: RMA SUCKS
Mid-Range: Used LTC 28550** / 28590** or Highcom 3S9M* (SAPI size only!)
High-End: Used LTC 28595**
Elite: Used LTC 28570** or VelSys TSA**
Elite-Plus: Tyr XHA4/S6/T(DND) or GEN 6 LTC TSA
>Level IV / CONUS High (.30-06 M2AP):
/pfg/: Used Protech 2014G or Gilliam 1023
Budget: Hesco 4403* (bare minimum)
Mid-Range: Hesco 4601* (+ Level III) or surp ESAPI**^ (REV. G-J preferable, adds M995 / 3x M2AP vs 1x)
High-End: Hesco 4800(DND), 4800LV^DND, or Protech 9812-R1(DND)
Elite: Tencate CXP-800 SA or Ceradyne SOF ESAPI MK.II**^DND
>Level IV+ / CONUS Extreme (Various)
Budget: Protech 2230 (fast M2AP, $300/set used)
Budget-Tungsten: Gilliam 8002 (.300 Winmag Swiss P AP)
Mid-Range: Adept Colossus (7.62x51 Swiss P AP) or REV. C XSAPI**^ (M993)
High-End: Rev. D XSAPI**^ (M993+)
Elite: Ceradyne 96034** (7.62x51 Swiss P AP?)

>** = militray
Best source for VelSys PBZ-SAs?

>>64816067
https://offbase.co/products/velocity-systems-7-62x39-api-bz-multi-hit-stand-alone-rifle-plate

2.2k a set, but they're really good plates for less than overt M80 + M855A1 + BZ API.

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>>64815866
>> https://knightweave.com/products/ranger-cloak-waterproof-edition
Get the leaf broach.

Imma design a cloak that can double as hammack but that would be too long so the back would double up and serve as backpack for bulk light stuff like bedding and puffy jacket/pants.

could even become kayak skin, and of course better tent than poncho.

I fig with a few built in cords and D-clips, I could use the hammack option on public transit hand hold hanger bars.

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>>64816153
>double as hammack
Don't get carried away min/maxin, you'll suffer from mission creep.

>>64815889
>best
They're the worst threads. Nothing but body armor argument spam for 300 posts. Now we have retards actually trying to entertain the idea of dressing up like gay warlords from mad max.

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>>64816204
There can be only one Toecutter.

>>64816108
I'm honestly thinking about getting one of those

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>>64816172
imma creep it to hammock with integrated bug net! :)

I discovered when I flipped the hammock upside down to use without net in the way, the net formed a snug but not too snug comforming net under the loaded hammock, which would be perfect for making any blanket or even dry leaves into a WTF you call them that cost big money "under-quilt" that makes hammock useful in cold weather.

If its cold enough for quilt, its too cold for bugs and vice versa. Net also good for drying clothes off ground but still handy.

>>64815889
They're certainly the fastest.
>>64816204
Body armor is this general's specialty and has been for years. You definitely must be new here.

>>64816429
>imma creep it
The Russians are already just using popup privy shelters and you will never win the shelter/bed/cloak/hamock/toilet war snowball. I'm returing to soul with a do-rag and a knife.

>>64816437
no, that was /bag/
nylon was the specialty here with a lot of offshoot into what to put into that nylon, medical, sustainment, plates, mags, tech ect.
so yes body armored was discussed here but the autistic rambling about it is for /bag/
last thread was 95% about body armored and it fucking dragged on

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>>64816472
>nylon
TAP. All you need.img showing AK mags fit TAP.

>>64816472
Always funny when fags like him try to gaslight you into not believing your lying eyes. Remember when /nvg/ was a thread but couldn't be sustained so now we occasionally post here?

>>64816444
I fig it will be a SOP full 6x9ft same as plywood plus 6" overhang but not sure why, but that will make it possible for full bivy sack. figure it will have at least a couple Doublings to shorten it when a cape, so can keep heavier items higher up as backpack.

one multi perp sheet to serve as cloak, hammock, backpack, bivy, mattress, tent, bug net and corracle boat.

Stowed it would be same as bedroll.

Saw older US Army training where they used ponchos to put all their shit in and float naked across calm river.

>>64816496
yes, and I remember before /nvg/ and /bag/ existed
body armor discussion was left at
>get ceramic plates with nij certifications pay more for less weight
and /nvg/ discussion was mostly
>$1200 for a pvs14? I can't afford that for larping

>>64816502
>float naked across calm river.
I read a historical biography anmbout a young lieutenant's wife where the forded a river by covering the wagons underneath with a canvas tarp. This was after he gave her a deringer for herself and the baby during a sketchy transit through indian country. The American west really was like that.

>>64816472
So dude post about nylon, medical, sustainment.
Actually, what do you guys make of this?
> https://ferroconcepts.com/blogs/news/ferro-concepts-and-spiritus-systems-propose-open-standard-for-plate-carrier-modularity
If this is done cleverly, it could be a way to give Crye and Tyr a black eye, so I am in full support.

>>64816524
is there much variations in front flap attachment?
I think it's interesting but it should also include standardized cummerbund attachment
don't know if it'll matter too much in the long run, it mostly just promotes the spiritus "sell them a piece at a time" scheme
it will probably take a military requirement to get crye and tyr on board

>>64816516
if I was on Titanic I'd have gone to galley for a lot of hot lard and olive oil and poured it on bedsheets and turned a table upside down with some chairs and made a frame and skin boat.

>>64816524
>uhh our gay zippers don't align with everything!
so use the same molle strap attachment devices people have used for decades instead
fucking retards trying to force a solution on everyone to a problem they created

>>64816556
>it will probably take a military requirement to get crye and tyr on board
I don't think they ever would. Unless there's a genuine military requirement, they might try using different zippers and shit like that just to fuck with them.

>>64816575
>legit
Floki the Boat Builder.

>>64816515
and the numbers aren't there to sustain /bag/ and /nvg/ as separate threads since about 2022-2023, so now everything is merged into /gq/, IMO for the better because the state of armor discussion is excellent (albeit hyper technical) and if you want one-liner tech support style help go to reddit. They'll set you up with a pair of shitty plates from Highscum or RMA fiberglass Inc. in no time.
State of NV discussion is also good when it gets there, although we seem pretty tight-wallet these days aside from two high rollers buying PBZ-SA plates.
>>64816524
Let's see how it does.

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>These polyurethane bracers come as a pair. As they are polyurethane, they are lightweight and comfortable to wear. Lighter than fully leather or steel pieces, this armour is great for warm weather. They secure onto your arms with adjustable leather straps. Each bracer has two straps.
For bump and scratch protection, brush busting, route finding and H2H, these could also help ward off knife attacks. Note, goes with or without cloak.

>>64816597
lmao, the crazy thing is that it's not a terrible idea. Bracers can be hugely important vs. knife attacks.

>>64816597
>>64816601
I prefer chainmail

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>>64816604
We all do.

>>64816596
you can just sustain /bag/ by yourself, you are already 60% of the posts here

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>>64816607
it has a vibe for sure

>>64816597
no, vambrace should be ar500 at minimum, when presenting your weapon your support forearm is exposed in front of you plate, it needs ballistic protection

>>64816583
>Floki the Boat Builder
or empty and re-cork some booze bottles and fill pillow cases with them.

>>64816153
Basically the Mors Scarf concept by Mors Kochanski in hammock form. I bought a hammock with that design in mind from Molly Mac Gear a decade ago. Not sure if they're still in business.

>>64816609
I would say 35% maybe? 60% is a touch high. If it's an armor debate it'll be 50% me, 50% neetmaster. Maybe baganon or someone else will chime in.
>>64816617
This. AR500 is too heavy, polyethylene is better for this role.

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>>64816617
Nah, that's what your AR500 buckler with gun port is for.
>>64816677
>polyethylene is better for this role.
Agreed.

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>>64816757

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>>64816781
>folding
Nice. Add the folding pic miunted rear view mirror and your set. The also have scope armor for your objective.
https://armoredoptics.com/products/hindsight

>>64816647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2P1iGc8CVw

interesting and I wonder WTF fabric he thinks he gonna use for hammock

I'm thinking of about 1000Denier gortex for full waterproof bivy.

My goal is to be able to wear it as a cape and hook to trees or bus hand holds and get into hammock without taking it off in under 60 seconds.

>>64816790
>also have scope armor for your objective.
May have dropped it.

>>64816798
>get into hammock without taking it off in under 60 seconds
>for when you are really tired and want to sleep NOW

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This is the ultimate shield, it says so on their product page.
https://www.patriot3.com/flex-shield

I want a velcro patch that says CITIZEN, but I feel like that would just draw more fire.

>>64816805
hoist myself up with some hand pulls or even feet pumper loops after hooking head and feet cords up.

>>64816864
>>64816781
also working on set of plates and carrier that kwik detach to form a front shield V when prone, and then back on front and back when getting up.

no reason to have front and back plates showing about 1" of protection when prone and you want to be prone.

>>64816781
Son of a bitch why isn't this more of a thing? Put a double gunshield AR with a Norinco 120rnd and an FRT at the top of the stairs. Brap brap there goes the baddies tumbling down tumbling down tumbling dooooown.
I'll call Jinwudun.

>>64816601
Statistically your forearms are some of the most likely-hit areas in a gunfight.

>>64816524
>he doesn't post about nylon, only bitches
Typical nonce. /gqbagnvgpfgout/ alliance forever.

>>64816985
there was never an alliance, just banished outcasts returning to Rome after it's fall

Gay larping faggots

>>64817027
>two dudes yelling about first spear tubes is Rome
You insult Caesar.

The AI threads are fast like lightning but MAN do they piss some of yous off.

Fucks sake the third shop is out of stock on >>64815866. I just wanna pimp cloak in multicoom black not asking a whole lot here

>>64817074
I don't care about ai op images, this thread is moving quick because we haven't gotten to the part where armor autist starts posting his college thesis on mystery meat plates

>>64817122
>Ten year old Velocity Systems plate made by Tencate is now mystery meat
grimdank archeotechnology.

/r/ the jammers info graphic.

>>64817288
It's in the emporium. See >>64816032.
There's a list of evil scammers selling them at the bottom of the infograph. They will probably just take your money. Using a jammer in the US is ILLEGAL.

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>>64816939
Makes sense. If you're going for center mass, and if the other guys are shooting at you, you're very likely to end up hitting the forearms.
REAL warriors wear bracers.

>>64817394
>Using a jammer in the US is ILLEGAL.
Information only, I would never violate FCC regulations, that would.be a violation. Do te ship to USA, asking for not me.

>>64817421
>REAL warriors wear bracers
Lvl 4 bracers when?

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>>64816597
>these could also help ward off knife attacks. Note, goes with or without cloak.
My cloak IS my protection against knife attacks.

>>64817726
That's actually based. You need a good cloak for that, though.

>>64817726
>My cloak IS my protection against knife attacks
This is good. Because our poofy pants and flaming hat are gay enough for a hate crime.

>>64817666
Satan that's easy. Buy unarmored MOLLE bracers from VETERANS store on Aliexpress, then a pair of side plate pouches. Insert Level IV side plates of your choice into pouches. Since you cannot bend the plate to curve with the bracer, use extra length zip ties and run them through the MOLLE. Tighten until stable. 6x8 or 7x8 mini shields.
If you use ESBIs plus soft the weight actually won't be too bad.

>>64817559
They regularly ship to CRIMINALS in the US, who use them to STEAL from honest americans.

>>64817854
Yeah, that's totally not me, so we're good. You can trust me.

>>64817911
>911
Yeah I dunno officer, don't go on made-in-china.com. Don't talk to Kevin Wang, and do NOT buy a JYT-1290.

ukrainian meme belt is actually shipping

may not be a scam after all

>>64818089
What meme belt are we talking boss?

Look at this, it's been less than a day and we are at nearly 100 posts. AI op images are... are... heckin' based.

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>>64818064
Problem becomes them meeting their own specs.

>>64818110
They're thermally limited and also limited by the limitations of the battery. In theory they'll work better if the user uses the DIP switches to turn off unneeded bands.

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>>64818106
The Crye blast belt but with more MOLLE copy by ENSIS gear that this overedited advertisement went semi viral shilling for

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQTV8EXEsLc

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>>64818129
>They're thermally limited and also limited by the limitations of the battery
These could be fixed. Selective band control just makes sense. Dip switches were cool ...in the '80s. I can fix that, too.

I saw a clip of a russian dude stuffing his earpro with sheets of UHMWPD

I think he maybe fit four layers in there max

If it's for the feels why not I guess

>>64818160
>>64818089
Congrats man, enjoy the ukraine trip!

>>64818160
>closing song by the Pixies
Had me way before that. Ensis Lima it is.

>>64818219
I'm liking the sound of this. What do you propose?
>>64818160
Very nice. Are there slots in this for small rifle plates like the OG blast belt?
>>64818247
Four sheets is gonna be useless.
>>64818277
>he didn't order using a prepaid debit and a PO box
the wheels on the Ukrainian abduction van go round and round....

Armor anons, I come seeking knowledge. Working off the assumption that most armor uses some form of edge cheat or other sketchery, is there any incentive to size up in plate size or is this overblown?

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>>64818343
>What do you propose?
I love mini toggles > dip switches. Battery tech is leaping faster than time-to-market, the external bank is the easy road. Better extruded heatsink should be the basis for design, reverse engineering that is the tall pole. Some type of (CoolMAX) cooling fabric is a cheap easy application to supplement the sink. Better fans, more airflow, better heatsink means a new enclosure. The whole thing would need bench testing for output verification. That's the fun part. Kevin says hi, not really. Kevin says ping pong ching chong.

>>64818371
>Working off the assumption that most armor uses some form of edge cheat or other sketchery
Most armor does not. That's a myth created by companies trying to excuse their own fuckery.
>is there any incentive to size up in plate size or is this overblown?
There are historically very large plates, ranging from 12x15" to 15x16" and even a 16x17" meant to provide full torso protection. However, these went by the wayside for ergonomic reasons. What you propose only matters if you're deliberately running 1" ringed plates or whereabouts. Example, if you're sized for an 8x10 and you bought RMA-style cheat ringed plates, you'd only have 6x8 protection, the size of a side plate. Sizing up to a 10x12 would then get you actual 8x10 protection. Stay away from China, old RMAs, and other shady makes and this won't be a problem.

I would be far more concerned with NOMINAL sizing. Example, Highcom's 10x12 shooters is really about 9.25x11.5, so you're down substantial coverage. Hesco's 10x12 is actually 10x12 (wow). RMA follows the Highcom pattern for the most part. It makes sense to force strict sizing by using SAPI M over 10x12 since a SAPI M is a consistent 9.5x12.5, while 10x12 shooters is just industry made up.

>>64818421
>9.25x11.5
Honestly you're giving them too much credit. It was smaller than that, something like 9x11.35" or something. Crazy fucking small, like a SAPI S.

>>64818430
Keep in mind there's a variance, so one guy's Highcoms can measure 9.5x11.5, another 9.25x11.25, maybe another 9.3x11.2.
Their not-10x12 shooters is comparable weight wise to SAPI Small also because of the bottom corner cut-outs. SAPIs only have the top corners cut as a rule.

Rule of thumb, an honest 10x12 should only be about 0.2lb lighter than an honest 9.5x12.5 SAPI M, unless the plate is very light or heavy. Highcom's 10x12 steel plates are about a pound lighter than their 9.5x12.5, which says enough about how sheisty their sizing is. There's also a 0.7lb difference between the 10x12 RMA XRT and 9.5x12.5 version. Similar for the 1165 and 1155.

What's the best way to carry a knife on a plate carrier? Probably going to just get something 'good enough' like a gerber strongarm.

>>64818617
Stuck a boot knife in a TQ pouch here. It's loose, but I could mod the pouch with Chicago screws from the back to the sheath. >>64816493

>>64818697
You can do that on a PC if you have a spare MOLLE column, otherwise you've got to run it higher.

What's the best way to carry a katana on a platecarrier? I need to slice my salami if you know what I mean.

>>64818729
>katana
Back cross draw? But start with a wakizashi.

It's over. Fierce was my rage when I learned of this gay mad max detention. Now I see the queers are dressing as if they are pimping the streets, Titus. They are wearing furry capes like Horus.
This is awful. Truly awful.

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>>64818700
Yeah, it's just a place holder for the tq.

>>64818743
I was thinking tied under my left cummerbund so I draw with my right hand. I dunno I got a $50 katana off amazon and it's not really sharp so I'm questioning my decisions in life lately.

>>64818729
You keep it on your battle belt, noob

>>64818277
What's the meme? I don't get it.

>>64818773
And if you don't have a battle belt, you can buy one in a few different pieces from Spiritussy. Buckle sold separately.

>>64818773
Is a katana first line equipment tho?

>>64818343
>Very nice. Are there slots in this for small rifle plates like the OG blast belt?
No but I wouldn't wear them if there were. I just wanted a soft armor belt with low profile suspenders.

>>64818767
▶▶▶
Wouldit survive chopping through a 4"x4"?

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It's amazing how fun and fast this thread is compared to some of the others. We NEED AI images in OP.
In fact, I felt inspired to buy a cloak. How do I look, bros?

>>64818787
A1 threats are the future. If your armor can't handle it it's over desu

>>64818797
Absolutely not. Maybe the machete katana from cold steel since it's a heavier blade. I just needed a silent weapon to pierce enemy kevlar.

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>>64818825
Wouldn't a shish kabob skewer do that? I have a really nice ice pick by Klein.

>>64818815
This, but the future is now. A2 is behind the ball again.

>>64818847
Heavy long-core tungsten threats are the future. A2 is stuck in... 2015. It's joever.
>>64818841
It's easier to stab than slash through soft armor.

>>64818815
I'm in the actual army and do artillery things for a living

I know what my actual threats are and it's not small arms

>>64818870
Fuxk you I went to chris costa's gunfighter 201

>>64818813
I agree. Solid drip bro.

>>64815866
THEY'RE SOLD OUT UNTIL MARCH. FUCK

>>64818876
this is true, I was there and chris laughed at a2's lack of a chin

>>64819141
I can confirm, I was there when it happened. I am A2's missing chin.

>>64819141
This is how it happened. This is how Chris made A2 his bottom.

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Someone explain to me why the hell four different sellers are out of stock on the same pimp coat. They all have it in Alpine Cum but not multicam black the fuck.

>>64819235
I boughted them all sorry

>>64819235
How would you manage your gun sling if you had a cape?

>>64819314
He wants it in MCB. I don't think that matters.

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>>64819311
>tfw
https://youtu.be/_u1WlEMCDis?t=34

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>>64819314
>>64819316
The cape ties onto the platecarrier's shoulder straps, you'd just run a two-point over the cape and adjust to account for the added girth.

>>64815866
the fucking drip is too strong

>>64819330
You want it in MCB. How well it works with your rifle doesn't matter because all it's for is posing for photos in.

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>>64819349
>he doesn't know we live in a post-camo world because thermals and because everyone wears neon tape over the same uniform
Shame

>>64819330
I just think it would be more drag and with the sling over the cape it will bunch it up

Gay larping faggot pieces of shits

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>>64819358
u jelly?

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>>64819355
It's adjustable and with some fitting wouldn't actually be that bulky. See >>64819354 on an actual person. Absolutely still form over function.
Besides... it's not the worst thing China cooked up in multicam black.

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>>64819358
China once again steals the show in /gq/. Now I need to make a THIRD aliexpress infograph.

>>64819367
genuinely, which chinese brand makes the best chest rig

>>64819468
Shekkin Gears, Emerson, Elite Spanker?

>>64819468
Krydex

REBBBBEL RAAAAAIDERS

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Is body armor general gone?

Looking for suggestions for an armor setup that meets the following

modular/scaleable 3A low profile high quality (decently light and thin and flexible) vest for under garment covert application that can easily take ICW plates that provides ideally M855A1 and M80 ball protection but I would settle for M855/M193 762x39 protection.

Any suggestions?

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>>64819499
Hesco 3411s might fit the bill, unless you have more to spend

>>64819499
ridgerest is my favorite sleeping mat

>>64819499
BALCS LBAV from Beez for vest. Get balcs panels from Stealth, Midwest, or if you're brave Compass or used fleabay. Perfect plates are VS-PBZSAs but >>64819510 are good if you're on a tighter budget. LTC 19513s are lighter than the 3411s but not as robust. PBZSAs are really thin so easier to run lo pro than either of those.
Standalone plates are always more efficient than ICWs in terms of overall weight.

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>>64815864
imma start rockin' Western Bib shirts as armor carriers.

Probably go with soft armor sewn into bib, but could also drop in plates.

you can also stash stuff between bib and shirt.

also have one side folded down to aid stashing shit and look cool

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>>64819363
since we're talking about retarded shit
should i get this vietnam tiger stripe trenchcoat?
I already pre-ordered the Krushzichi (spelling) wizard hat in VTS
my crossfire DZ rig is in VTS chest rig etc
I'm thinking I could take one of the sacred local trees, and fashion a branch into a staff/stock for one of those bird's eye grip mossberg aftershocks
get it blessed by a witch doctor
I mean all my shit right now is tailored for 308 but a shotgun staff would be pretty cool, in all vietnam tiger stripes of course.

>>64818813
>How do I look, bros?
Quite dashing. Lose weight, the cloak does not hide it well.

>>64819235
>They all have it in Alpine Cum but not multicam black
>he is a single colorway guy
Fashions changes by the season, bro. You need to raise your hemline in the spring.

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>>64819330

>>64819354
>theremals spot target
>fur coller confuses enemy to thinking you are just another coyote
>silently take out multiple sentries with samurai sword
>polypropylene bracers for H2H combat
>like a boss
>nut sack protected by ballistic skirt to reproduce offspring in multipe Asian war brides ensuring genetic transfer for future generations of victorious warriors
Future fucking soldier right here.

>>64819355
>more drag and with the sling over the cape
It is. Every Musketeer movie shows them ditching the cape for freedom of movement, or using it wrapped around thier off hand/weak side arm for a bracer.

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>>64819795
The US has its own version of this. . . but changed.

>>64819355
>>64819798
with a poncho you can just throw it over your shooting shoulder I imagine you could do the same with a cap

>>64819664
>vietnam tiger stripe trenchcoat?
>wins thread in 1 post
Chicken dinner 4u.

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>>64819610
>imma start rockin' Western Bib shirts as armor carriers.

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>>64819811
The Force is strong itt.

>>64819811
war has changed.....

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>>64819795
I want to fight the army that is stupid enough to mistake a human for a coyote.

>>64819664
Based, do it.

>>64819664
I always encourage retards on the internet to do retarded things. Yes.

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>>64819664
Today I shall remind them

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>>64818617
I've got a shank tucked behind my mag pouch insert, the sheath is tied into molle so it wont come out when I yank
it wouldn't work well for a thicker more utilitarian knife, like the strongarm, I have a glock field knife on my belt

>>64818813
Not bad, but like the other anon said, should try to loss a little bit of weight
>>64819820
PONCHO SUPREMASY

>>64820187
The Ukrainians are killing penguis on the battlefield, the animal is irrelevant.

>>64819811
HOOTEENI

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>>64820461
Giving me major pic related vibes. I dunno why
>>64819811
>>64819832
>>64819795
Absolutely based.

>>64820321
Can't read the maker's mark on the blade, who makes that knife?

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>>64819664
It's ninety bucks man, although that's what I paid for a pimp cloak that's actually in stock so do what you will.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808986992528.html?

>tfw you spend more on a pimp cloak than what some people spend on plates

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>>64820479

>>64820520
its chinese garbage off amazon
its intended to be a single use item that I never need
just there if anyone ever tries to wrestle my rifle away from me I shove that in their kneck
its a very sharp point but I imagine the tip would snap as soon as I hit anything harder than flesh

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Daily reminder the .300 Winmag Swiss P AP tested Gilliam 8002 plate is still only $314 a plate. 8.3lb for a 10.3x12.3 / 1.2" thick plate. Single curve.
For comparison the Highcom 4S17M is $230 a plate and multi-curve, but actually weighs more when honestly sized and is not rated for any tungsten threats, unlike the Gilliam.

https://gilliamtechnicalservices.com/products/model-8002-max-heavy-tungsten-rf3-silicon-carbide-ceramic-armor-plate

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>>64820525
Gotta say the DNC is hot, but TS wins the day.

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>>64820539
Buy an 18" croc dundee bowie knife from SHART BLADE on ebay. Feel the edge as you cleave your enemies like mom's bratwurst.

>>64820555
Jesus, now that's a knife!

>>64820555
>this is a knife!

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>>64820549
I dunno their fish suit is kinda growing on me. Would look badazz in tiger stripe.

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>>64820560
>>64820561
Not if EH KNIVES has anything to say about it, and they do! They're gonna whip out their 20" EH KNIFE and swing that shit real good.

We need to track down Derl and mail him two of these so we can use him as a lancer in the ensuing zombie apocalypse from that Chinese guy trying to depopulate India in 24 hours.

>>64820571
I kinda like this one but it looks like he just got done staining the handle with sacred cow dung

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>>64820587
I send federal agent after you saar do not redeem that comment again now do the needful and stop posting on far right extremist website 4chan

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IN THE FUTURE
THERE IS ONLY WAR
AND PIMP CLOAKS

>>64820634
A carbonfiber katana sheath? W2c?

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>>64820722
We haven't unlocked that level of alibabamaxxing yet. You need to buy a tuk tuk off of Aliexpress and deliver at least three very large doordash orders to a man that looks suspiciously like bill clinton from a ghost kitchen in the back of 33 Thomas Street in NYC. He can be found at the entrance to the mole tunnels at the large synagogue in brooklyn.

While playing this music on the tuk tuk's very shitty Paramax speakers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBPEGpF2UXA

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Did anyone who went to shot show stop by the Highcom booth by chance? Allegedly they had some new models there.

>>64820839
LOL! Check out the "10x12" Shooter's Cut" second from right! Aaaahahahahahahaha
Brutal wrinkly tablecloth and low-effort decor, BTW. The faggots in the poster need to hit /gq/ fast as their setups look trash.

>>64821058
>Brutal wrinkly tablecloth and low-effort decor
>using last year's nonethnic specific grey syrofoam head
More like no effort.

>>64821058
>>64821083
Bahaha, that 10x12 is like a 9x11 not counting the bottom corner cutouts. Shit looks tiny. Meanwhile you've got Highcom apologists on reddit shilling this piss water daily. Penisbutter, Prototard, and John Sun Apex himself.
I saw the 3S18M in one of the pictures, which is an old .06 model. I don't think they had much anything to show.

RMA was also apparently there flaunting the new 1155 and 1165. Same sizing chicanery. This is why the Hesco 4403 is still the best overall cheapo IV aside from second hand.

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Updated the Hesco infographic with the SC3812 and FXR-Bravo (SC3812B) plus price fixes on the 3801 and 3811.
The FXR-Bravo is the most expensive commercially sold plate at $4,200/set. For comparison, a pair of VS-PBZSAs is $2,200.

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>>64815864
Is he wearing a cape?

>>64821875
>trending

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>>64821875
no it's a pimp cloak like >>64815866 and >>64819323 and >>64819354. We've turned to leasing cheeks to fund our gear and alibaba habits.

>AI Overview
>The primary difference between a cloak and a cape is length, functionality, and, often, the presence of a hood. Cloaks are typically long (knee-to-floor), hooded, and designed for warmth and protection against elements. Capes are shorter (waist-to-thigh), usually lack hoods, and serve as fashionable, lightweight accessories or dramatic, non-enclosing attire.
The more you (I) know.

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>>64821906
I see, so it's a pimp cloak for portable people. Can a pimp be portable?

>>64821863
Just IMAGINE buying the FXR-Bravo when you could buy the PBZSAs. So brain-dead it's unbelievable.
> B-but I need to float!
Cut up $10 yoga mat and insert it behind your plates if you need it that badly.

Best plate carrier for PBZSAs, Tyr or Alibaba cheapo?

>>64822139
Neither. Why do you pick the worst options bro?

>>64822074
Yeah the price needs to go way down. Mind you that's the LE/MIL price because Tac11 is cringe and doesn't deal to normal people, so add 15% and you're at $4,830. Could literally buy two sets of PBZs and have $430 leftover for something else.
The only plates that have any business being that expensive are tip-top Ceradynes, Mehler Varios, Tencates better than the PBZSA / VS-TSA, or LTCs better than those. Fuck outta here Hesco.
>>64822139
Hit up the infographic. Beez's low vis BALCS is pretty appealing given the PBZs are just over 1/2" thick.

>>64822168
>Ceradynes
RIP
>Mehler Varios
LOL no, these guys seem like a joke. Also their exoskeleton meme is literally one of the most laughed-at things on Youtube.
> Tencates better than the PBZSA / VS-TSA
Questionable whether these exist.
> LTCs better than those
These do exist, like the new SPEAR plates and LSAPI desu
Honestly there's no reason not to buy the PBZSA if you're in that price/performance bracket though. It's best in slot.

>>64822249
Mehler's interesting because the only plates of theirs you see are 20 years old, and those plates are still relatively competitive. They're still very top tier even if the exoskeleton is stoopid, which it is.
>Tencates
The PBZSA is ten years old and predates the latest versions of Spectra and Dyneema UHMWPE. Of course there's better. The TSA is harder though since it's the same age as the fellow GEN-5B 28570. Since TSA/O and LTO are awarded as a pair, the VS-TSA SHOULD have an LTO counterpart better than the PBZSA. Remember, the PBZSA's competitor when it was "new" was the 28780, not the 28791.
>LTCs
LSAPI has 62mm max BFD, but is only 3.5lb. Sidegrade IMHO. GEN-6 TSA/LTO and TSA/O will mog the PBZSA and TSA respectively though.

I agree the PBZSA is S-tier, but keep an eye out for GEN-6 TSA plates.

>>64822146
I'm like that.
>>64822168
>BALCS
I love the idea of lopro slick.

>>64822280
>They're still very top tier
Based on what? Old plates from 20 years ago, and that's it? Nah, they're on more drugs than Kel-Tec, working on objectively retarded concepts and setting fire to their reputation. They don't have anything good. If they did, they wouldn't be so scared, and they'd actually advertise it.

>>64822289
>Old plates from 20 years ago, and that's it?
Ceradyne is the toppest of tiers and that's basically all they got, lol, besides ESAPI / XSAPI plates that you can also get from BAE, LTC, Tencate, etc. The MH3 CQB, SOF ESAPI, and 96034 are all over or approaching 20 years old.
Mehler Vario's plates from the late 90s to early 00s are easily competitive with OG SAPI, which was state of the art for 1998. That says enough.
>Nah, they're on more drugs than Kel-Tec
Based. Top tier confirmed.
>objectively retarded concepts
Oh you mean like Ceradyne with 7.62 AP rated helmets using boron carbide appliques that cost $5k and still cause neck injuries?
>If they did, they wouldn't be so scared, and they'd actually advertise it.
Do you see VelSys / Tencate advertising the VS-TSA anywhere? Or LTC with the 28570? Or Protech with the 2240 which replaced the 2230 we've been rizzing the past five threads?
If you genuinely have something spicy, you should NOT advertise it. Why tell the world the specs of your clients' armor? If they know the specs, they can easily figure out how to penetrate it. Dead soldiers or cops. Not fun.

>>64822302
lol, so your argument for them being good is "I made it up"
"because I think that they SHOULD be good"
nigga they're wasting their time shilling retard-grade exoskeletons with VPAM-6 armor that nobody wants, lol. Their videos are the most comedy anybody has ever seen in this product category. (Okay, American Blast, Hesco, and Highcom test videos are like black comedy, sometimes a bit uncomfortable to watch. Mehler is more like slapstick.) They're not doing anything good.

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>>64822302
>>64822315
I rest my case.

>>64822326
Well the feet are important you see. Protect the toesies against 7.62x39 mild steel core. Wait, I have an idea. VPAM PM-6 pimp cape.
>>64822315
>I made it up
>their plates from 2004 are comparable to BAE and Ceradyne plates from 2004
You do realize LTC is top tier despite not fully manufacturing their own strike faces or PE backers, right? They buy strike faces from Bitossi, Coorstek, or another ceramic company, then HB212 or HB210 or whatever UHMWPE from Dyneema, and they slap em together and wrap. That's basically a plate minus drop protection, adhesive, and a crack arrestor if present.
Somehow you think Mehler, a company which makes boutique footsie and pixar mom armor per your example, cannot do the same?

>>64822350
> Somehow you think Mehler, a company which makes boutique footsie and pixar mom armor per your example, cannot do the same?
If it's THAT easy, how come Hesco, RMA, and Highcom are so trash? 10 years and none of them have an answer for the PBZSA. You need some baseline competence, and Mehler obviously doesn't have it. I think they're probably around Highcoom-tier these days.
> Well the feet are important you see. Protect the toesies against 7.62x39 mild steel core.
The foot thing doesn't even look like VPAM-6. I don't know what the fuck they were trying to do. So stupid looking and obviously non-functional.

Anyways, Mehler is difficult to track their latest shit on because they're tight lipped, but there's persistent rumors of a ~7lb or less SK-4+ plate rated for multiple 7.62x51mm DM151 tungsten core. This would be slightly heavier than, but significantly more robust vs the Adept Colossus. Also, mandated <25mm BFS on all three shots.

>>64822366
lol more vaporware
What's somehow not vaporware is molle foot armor.

>>64822359
>If it's THAT easy, how come Hesco, RMA, and Highcom are so trash?
Because they cut corners, often literally, lol. The 4800 is quite a bit lighter than the Integris CXP-800SA, but you and I both know what the better plate is. Ditto between the SC3812 vs PBZSA.
>The foot thing doesn't even look like VPAM-6
At... *smokes cigar* 800 meters standoff.

>>64822370
Yeah I know, it's a major problem in the industry. Where's the REAL 3811 or 4801, or LTC 24855, or the Level IV all-PE plates both DKX and Highcoom were working on? Shit, what about the GEN-IV SPEAR plates Ceradyne was working on but they lost the contract to (on paper) far inferior LTC? Where's the damn VTP XSAPI, Tencate? Hey Stealth, where's the TiB2-SiC super dragonskin? Huh?
Point is, Mehler's behavior is nothing unusual for a large time armor manufacturer. Everybody has vaporware and rumored sekrit produkts.
>molle foot armor
Well they're german...

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>>64822326
what if he wants a pouch on his ankle? Or to up-armor his feet?

>>64822437
I could actually see frag foot protection being useful in extreme fragmentation risk zones. You could strap a side plate pouch to the MOLLE and gain up to Level IV using late model tan MSAPs... for yer feet. Good luck being mobile but maybe the idea is to rely on future exoskeleton developments.

Son of bitch it's been less than 48 hours and we're at 2/3rds of the way to bump limit.

AI OP IMAGES ARE FAST AS FUCK YO.

>>64822465
>but maybe the idea is to rely on future exoskeleton developments.
This. Europeans and euro decent peoples are 8% of the world population we cant just feed them to the meat grinder like we used to. Total body protection is the future.

>>64822475
That partially excuses the Mehler pixar mom exoskeleton. If it's a proof of concept and the next version doesn't make you look like a thicc milf then there is an appeal.
It's easier to just use a shield, but you can't bring a shield everywhere.

>>64822470
>1/2 pimp cloak
>1/2 armor autism
> 1/10 poo flinging
That's alot!

>>64822501
Would you rather take the gay mad max warlorda or armor autism?

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>>64822524
Isn't there a why not both meme to choose from? I personally felt the rooster feathers were an odd choice. But mohawks were trending from brit punk culture, so that carried over. But the whole look is still iconic.

>>64822535
Based. We need IIIA pimp capes immediately.

>>64809757
Hey did you get attacked by four armored men?

Deal from Catalyst. Pairs of IMPAC/HT 7x8s meant to go with deltoid IIIA. These boost you up to some 5.7 and 7.62x25 threats. 0.45lb a pop. $120 a oair. No dice for rifle threats but if they're running funny stuff in the switched ladders this could be useful.
https://www.catalystsurplus.com/product-page/7-x8-protech-impac-ht-deltoid

>>64822465
>>64822475
Their exoskeleton isn't even powered. If you strap any additional weight to your feet, you're not going to be moving much, and it obviously won't help vs landmines. It might even make landmines worse.

>>64823273
>future exoskeleton developments

>>64823448
> Good luck being mobile but maybe the idea is to rely on future exoskeleton developments.
Relying on things that aren't going to happen any time soon sure seems like a gigabrain strategy.

>>64823512
>solid state batteries
It's a proof of concept, I dunno why you're so hung up on it. It's like early TALOS suits but European.

Good news, I've found a seller that may actually have the >>64815866 pimp cape in stock. Bad news is that they're $90 instead of $60.
Let's see if they ship or just do the Aliexpress hemhaw where the item is not in stock but please let us change to another color or please consent to not shipping until March this is actually pre order!!!!

>>64823573
It literally is one of the failed early TALOS suit concepts, from a company called Mawashi. For years, nobody wanted that stinker. Then Mehler licensed it and somehow made it even more retarded.

>>64823579
Dude you have to order it and take pics. Also share link plz

What's the best flashlight to shine into the eyes of faggots tailgating me with high beams

>>64823581
It's a stinker, for now, because it makes you three times as wide so you can't get through doors, the exo is passive, and there's still gaps. Also, it's only PM-6 on most parts so M855 will pierce.
In the next five years it'll be a lot more palatable with battery and UHMWPE improvements enabling an active exo solution with M855-capable armor.
Keep in mind Mehler is German and M855A1 isn't as common over there.

>>64823598
Nah I mean the Mawashi TALOS concept was also a stinker. That exoskeleton is just a total failure.
> five years
Literally nothing indicates that Mehler and Mawashi are capable of what you're suggesting. Their stuff is trash-tier.

>>64823582
I'll update when I get it. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808597198456.html?

>>64823609
We've been discussing all-PE plates released in the past few months good for M855, using more advanced iterations of PE from Honeywell or Dyneema. Solid state batteries will probably be commercial in the next few years. It's all juat sourcing and assembly. There's no magic sauce where if Tencate was doing this it'd suddenly be like MJOLNIR from Halo.

>>64823620
> It's all juat sourcing and assembly.
lol, lmao. This might be your most brain-dead post yet. Meanwhile Mehler don't even have something as simple as a PBZSA competitor, ten years on, and that's 10000x easier than a powered combat exoskeleton

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>>64823585
Obviously KC Highliters, mount on rear bumper as a backup light with a manual switch.

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>>64823614
I may get the winter version just to fight you.

>>64823645
lol. Gilliam could make a PBZSA competitor in his garage if he had a reliable source for good boron carbide and had better PE. China doesn't make good B4C so he doesn't.
You are vastly overestimating the complexity of manufacturing armor.

>>64823672
Get the winter version of the Bacraft fish skirt and I'll duel you with the multicam black.

>>64823680
when the fuck is buffman gonna make a vid with gilliam plates so i can buy some

>>64823689
They're still beefing give them a minute.

Actually, why the hell doesn't Gilliam use a thinner TiB2-SiC strike face to make either a gucci RMA XRT + M995 for about 5.2lb or a PBZSA + M995 competitor for maybe 4.6+lb?
Worth noting the PBZSA, LTC 28791, and Hesco SC3812 all use boron carbide and will get smoked by M995 at 16-20" velocity. TiB2-SiC does not have that weakness.

>>64823684
Like any cape shit hero, your glory will only be measured by the strength of your enemies. And you will never match my power. I have read everything from Sun Tzu to Tarzan and have a lot of theroretical experience! You cannot win. We should declare a truce before someone gets hurt.

>>64823706
>TiB2-SiC
>(TiB_{2}\)-SiC is an advanced ultra-high-temperature ceramic composite (UHTC) combining Titanium Diboride (\(TiB_{2}\)) and Silicon Carbide (SiC) to achieve high hardness, excellent oxidation resistance, and superior fracture toughness compared to monolithic ceramics. Primarily densified via hot-pressing or spark plasma sintering (SPS) at \(1800\text{--}2200^{\circ }\text{C}\), it is used in aerospace, armor, and cutting tools.
Seems simple enough.

>>64823707
Yes I agree.

>>64823680
>overestimating the complexity of manufacturing armor.
"$30" homemade BA: https://youtu.be/uxRJPVhuxh8?si=GLCr5n20vebQONtM
Defetes up to 9mm, fails @ .44remmag. I was a little disappointed he called an Iver Johnson .22 a "prostitute gun".

>>64816472
>>64816496
>>64816515
>>64816596
>>64816609
idk guys i just miss /pfg/. no illusions of being anything other than LARP resources

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>>64823770
/pfg/ up now.

>>64823706
Why are they beefing with buffman?

>>64823778
oh shit sweet. Too bad theyre still not consistent enough.

>>64823787
>not consistent
Diy my man, I am so close.
https://tandyleather.com/

What’s the general consensus on side plates ?

>>64824030
Well reasoned essay here sas more armor is better: >>64818160 but a peaceful protest would be a different environment than a battlefield.

>>64824030
They're not too much extra weight but provide useful, additional coverage if you aren't facing the threat square-like.
>>64823784
Old deleted reddit argument on whether M855 can be a harder round than M855A1 purely on backface deformation. Later Buff reached out to test Gilliam's plates but GTS is allegedly radio silent. Buff sent some ammo for the other guy's test of the GTS 8002.
IMO, this is just a theory, but Buff either wants too much of an affiliate cut or Gilliam is worried he'll monkey the test.

>>64823711
The Chinese are unfortunately ahead of the west on TiB2 business. It's the next leap forward for plates since B4C hard caps at Level IV and SiC isn't nearly as weight efficient.
>>64823752
Nice.

>>64823680
So why doesn't anybody? Also, making a plate is 1000x easier than a powered combat exoskeleton, and Mehler can barely even make plates that are decent. This is why they're using worthless VPAM-6 plates in their exoskeleton instead of PBZSA-style VPAM-8 plates.

>>64824452
>So why doesn't anybody
No point in spending money on materials and testing when nobody is gonna buy it. Most people cannot swing plates of this caliber, so they're limited to LE / MIL. RMA knows their market is cheap civilian plates, so that's what they orient to. They gave up on the expensive 1192 and 1199.
The PBZSA market is controlled by the PBZSA and has been for over a decade. Reputation matters. Tencate's is literally flawless. RMA's is shit. Anyone who doesn't have a long history of military contracts has no business going after the PBZSA. As an example, the Hesco SC3812 is not going to sell unless they go down a lot on price. $2k a set would be persuasive.
>Mehler
They only show plates they're comfortable flaunting as many mfg's do. If we were going off of Ceradyne's publkc stuff (Alumina IVs) you'd think they suck too.
>PBZSA style exo
That's gonna be 3-4x the price chief.

>>64824545
>publkc
Good lord my phone keyboard sucks, lol.

>>64824545
>Mehler
> They only show plates they're comfortable flaunting as many mfg's do. If we were going off of Ceradyne's publkc stuff (Alumina IVs) you'd think they suck too.
Ceradyne has decades of documented ESAPI/XSAPI contract performance. Mehler's public output is MOLLE foot armor and a pixar mom exoskeleton that makes you too wide for doorways. These are not equivalent situations.
> PBZSA style exo
> That's gonna be 3-4x the price chief.
It's already something like $100k and they don't really sell it (it's more of a joke than a product) so why not use better armor for muh specsheets?
Oh, wait, it's because they don't have anything good. Just memes.
> The PBZSA market is controlled by the PBZSA and has been for over a decade. Anyone who doesn't have a long history of military contracts has no business going after the PBZSA.
Weren't you just saying that Gilliam should make a PBZSA competitor himself? Like pick one nigga, lol.

>>64824545
>Anyone who doesn't have a long history of military contracts has no business going after the PBZSA
>>64824753
Nta, but I'll do it. I have no history of contracts, no materials experience, no process techniques, and no funding. But, I have never let lack of education or competency stop me from anything. I should fit right in with goverment work!

>>64824753
>Mehler
As discussed previously, they manufacture military plates for the Bundeswehr and German police, along with some UK and other Euro contract work. I'll happily concede they're second fiddle to Tencate in the Euro market, but they're a cut above regular slop and are comparable to LTC.
>The pixar mom exo
$100k is swingable if you have metro PD money and need something for a pointman that can go up stairs unlike a shield. Tencate, come to think of it, has an electric stair-climber mount for shields so maybe that merks the Mehler Milf.
If we quadruple the price just to show off, they're just wasting money. Besides, the PBZSA can get popped by M80A1 and above. If things are that fierce to justify a 400k exo, you're gonna need to go all the way. Now it's an 800k exo, aw shit it's not PM-12 and now weighs a stupid amount.
The Exo still has weight limits.
>Weren't you just saying that Gilliam should make a PBZSA competitor himself? Like pick one nigga, lol.
He absolutely should. The PBZSA market is dominated by the PBZSA because nobody else can economically compete with that plate. TiB2-SiC can change that. You'll get a heavier plate, but it'll be more robust. Gilliam gets most of his shit from China and like I said before, their B4C sucks. On the other hand, M995 is a rare threat CONUS.

>>64824765
You're overqualified. Keep in mind Gilliam is a retired helicopter pilot and is currently MOGGING RMA and Highcum with plates he makes in his garage. I think his company is a one man show.

>>64824790
>You're overqualified
Enthusiasm is an underrated motivation.

>>64824797
Do it. This will be the second time /k/ tried to make an armor company. Talk to Jacob Ganor at Adept and try to get in on the TiB2-SiC, or cut the middleman (?) and go direct to Shandong Yasai Ceramic in China.
Get some cheap PE from Honeywell, boom, you're in. Just try and cuck the RMA XRT and you'll have a market. Trust me brah.q

I need my pimp cloak ship it you motherfuckers!!!!!

Meh

yeah

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I need a rifle light with a pressure switch that isnt gay af. Faggots will say olight

>>64824903
streamlight

>>64824903
you dont want a pressure switch unless you have a LAM

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>>64824916
Those go for like 2-$300 with the mount and shit. Am i stuck paying that much for something decent?

>>64824925
Ive been running the olight odin with their switch and havent had issues. Why the LAM?

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>>64824939
Clicky caps have less issues. You mount the light at the top right of your guns right rail and with a clamp use your thumb to operate. You would use a pressure switch if you have other things in the way like a LAM but otherwise better to keep it simple. Good WL brands would be modlight, surefire, cloud defensive. Streamlight is a good budget option but is like plastic BUIS. It works but you will want to upgrade it at down the line anyways.

>>64824957
Yea that scout light might be what i go with. Wjere you get your handrail covers?

>>64824981
That's not my gun but it looks like BCM rail covers

>>64824023
sorry bro i meant the poorfag threads are not consistently up. Your leather looks sick as fuck though and honestly the asymmetries enhance the overall boutique feel.

>>64823689
I am forever annoyed at the price-fixing on the Gilliam 9969. It went up over $200 a plate, it was mogging the more expensive Adept Archon horribly, and Adept supplies the strike face. Tell me there wasn't leveraging.

>>64824930
they're usually 200ish they're fine for the price
they come with a clicker and pressure switch if you get the hlx

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>>64824809
>the second time /k/ tried to make an armor company.
But this time with style! My pattern is already completed. Picrel from John Boorman's 'Excalibur'.

>>64825040
>asymmetries enhance
One thing I learned from hand woven wool rugs is that errors just show they are not off a machine.

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Sup /k/ommandos,
I'm active service in a european military (neither ukraine or russia before you ask) and is looking to improve my body armour a bit. Our issued body armour is essentially like the one shown here: https://youtu.be/85dVarbjebc?t=767, and most importantly has the exact same method to fasten the armour as shown at the timestamp (12:47) with two flaps of velcro going under the front molle pannel. Personally I fucking hate it and I'm looking to buying a set of what I only known of as "quick releases" (picrel) as from what it looks like it barely takes up any space with only one row of molle on the side pannels, is quicker and most importantly doesn't require you to take the entire fucking front off with all pouches still attached every time you put it on / take it off.

We don't a domestic industry making tactical shit with only 2 / 3 brands who are mostly geared towards the more tactical parts of our law enforcment, and one of them actually sells these quick releases, for 150 fucking dollars. It's fully possible these are normal prices for this shit but to me it seems like a fucking robbery for some plastic and velcro sewn together, hence why I'm now looking out towards the international market. I've already bought one set for 10 dollars which are currently being delivered, but they are only meant for experimentation / see if I even like it and are as such made in a chinese sweat shop probably with cheap chink material / manufacturing and without any NIR dampening materials, but hey they only cost 10 dollars including shipping so it's worth it IMO for an experiment. If I decide I like them, do you have any tips for brands to look out for when buying the real thing along with general prices for this shit? My only real guideline is no gucci / crye tier brands. I'm starting at the bottom to see if I like it as a concept, then to the middle where chink QC won't be a factor if I like it, to only then go for the actually good stuff.

Please, pretty please

>>64825158
>and one of them actually sells these quick releases, for 150 fucking dollars
That's hypebeast pricing and a ripoff.
>I've already bought one set for 10 dollars which are currently being delivered, but they are only meant for experimentation / see if I even like it and are as such made in a chinese sweat shop probably with cheap chink material / manufacturing and without any NIR dampening materials, but hey they only cost 10 dollars including shipping so it's worth it IMO for an experiment
Test them out, make sure they run effectively, and if they blow in the field or glow against IR then you know you need to upgrade. If not, they're good. Revaluate when the chinese ones are in and don't overthink the issue.

>>64823722
>>64823707
Bad news, that seller is also out of stock. The quest for a multicam black pimp cape continues.

>>64825125
Will you be able to commercialize this design? That's where LibaAnon fell short. Is he still around? His last M993-sorta-kinda rated prototype was promising.

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>>64825220
Like any fiberglass kit for cars, the trick is in the mold. I may be too humble if I say I have "no" process experience. Then it's just a matter of scale. The demand would never really be there, but for classic Renaissance Knight patterned, 9mm proof (fiberglass matte) armor, there could be a niche market at the Faires. Moving up to a dragon scale type IIIA or lvl4 would just be a matter of formula.

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>>64825250
Bain could be on his way to crack your ass because you're infringing on his dragonscale. (bottom left).

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New shit from the clownshow at Tactical Shit. The Highcoom SP8 Level IV plate is predictably on sale. $120 a plate. This is 7.2lb and 1.25" thick, heavily undersized not-10x12 (it's really more like 9x11 as discussed upthread like other Highcoms). Spiritual successor to the piece of shit that was the 4SAS4, except with drop protection this time.
$240 a set isn't awful and actually-.06 spec Highcoms do perform. TS does not deserve your business because of how they tried to bone people with the 4SAS4 a year ago, but if your ass is to the wall maybe this is a decent option. Used Protech 2014Gs are likely preferable and can be had for similar cash, but that's a limited time offer.

Next up is a "TitanXP" (who?) 8.5lb Level IV plate for $99.99 a plate. 0.8" thick single-curve, I suspect Longfri is the OEM based on marketing language. It claims to be good for 3x .30-06 M2AP owing to a ceramic tile array design. This is really heavy but weight-wise doesn't seem to have a cheat ring unlike other Chinese plates in this area. Alumina-PE so it really should be lighter. If it's stout though, that's good.
$99 a plate is for the most part unrivaled these days. There's no testing data and the company's address is a random office building so maybe exercise some caution, but this fulfills a niche for poverty armor. Less than half the price of 4403s or 4S17Ms. Maybe try and find someone other than Tacshit to buy from.

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>>64825255
>infringing on his dragonscale. (bottom left).
Which he stole.

>>64825331
From whom? He developed the first SOV-1000 Dragonskin (the titanium version) in 1997 as the head of Armor Technology Corporation.

>>64825317
ahahahahah at the 9x11" Highcope plate.
As for Titan XP, $99/plate is so cheap that anybody can just buy three and shoot the hell out of one of them. The plates suck, but it honestly seems okay for true poverty armor.

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>>64825341
>From whom
King Arthur, this shit goes way back.

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>>64825345
The pricing is strategic. There's no Hesco counterpart at this tier and even RMA's new 1155 is $200 a plate so Highcom can just subsist by "bottom-feeding" at the bottom /pfg/ rung all day. This is cheaper than plates from Militech or Gilliam even. Even Jinwudun.
>The plates suck, but it honestly seems okay for true poverty armor.
I agree. Anything around the Windows XP volkssturm plate is going to be D-tier GTEagle or Linry trash, or something else equally sketch.
>>64825359
Call King Arthur as a witness against Allan D. Bain, Murray Neal, and Nick Groat.

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Actually, more on that topic, can we decide if the Guard Dog Ridgeback is worth a shit? 7.8lb, 1.06" thick, multi-curve 5-hit Level IV. Chinese honeycomb tile array. Actual dimensions on the 10x12 are 9.85” x 11.8” x 1.06” so it IS slightly undersized. Competitors are Highcoom 4S17M, RMA 1155 GEN2, and Hesco 4403. It outperforms all three in terms of multi-hit and areal density is favorable. Realistically once the 2230s are exhausted we need a cheapo IV+ below the GTS 8002 in the copypasta.

Affiliate video #1: (BFD is rough, old vid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL3Hs2vN5R8
Manufacturer video, guy shooting definitely uses some... uh... "gear":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfqM6XS7m_s

Not NIJ certified, no test report. Note the tested version in the first vid is apparently old and the new one allegedly has a built in trauma pad plus frontal aramid layer.

>>64825359
>pic
Just swallow your body armor to become invincible!

>>64825438
>Call King Arthur as a witness
On the line with my psychic now.

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>>64825516
>You can’t break this shield, Jack. C'mon, try 'n hit me! Christ…! I love this shit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1m3YM2yb08
>>64825537
>Straight to the brain. It's like a dream. Well, maybe “dream” is the wrong word.

>>64825158
If you decide you like it, then just keep it. NIR is kinda a meme in a lot of cases, but especially in this case where the buckle is the only part visible, and if youre worried about that you can dust it with krylon or something similar. Chink stitching isnt what it was a decade ago, it can mostly be trusted but for self assurance you could get somebody with a sewing machine to do a couple of rows of reinforcing along the edge of the velcro. The mostly likely weak point will be the buckle, chink plastics dont handle shock or cold as well as the things theyre copying, but if you're concerned about that you could cut the buckle off and get an actual first spear tube with a split bar and just slide it on, which will be significantly cheaper than a complete kit.

>>64825655
If there's NV there's thermal.

>>64825846
>If there's NV there's thermal
Note to self, best truths to be found are simple.

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>>64825954
DMGear women need biger tidders.

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Like seriously this doesn't work for honest milkers.

>>64825979
It's larp gear. Who cares if it works? It's not like the titty pads are kevlar.

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I found a UCP M65 parka the other day at a thrift shop that I couldn't pass up. I didn't know they made those parkas with UCP pattern. I now own all issued variants of the M65

>>64825998
UCP still looks like shit