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What are your expectation and wishes for the Agito movie?
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ping pong kills
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>form born from the bond between Shouma and Sachika
>form born from Baku's own nightmare and overcoming a childhood trauma
It helps that they're just cool suits all around. I'm happy that upgrades with heavy personal significance are the ones Gavv and Zeztz use the most.
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What would you like to say to Agito's movie poster and cast?
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Reposting the visual teaser.
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Expo areas.
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Some people saying this is Mana turning evil?
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>>23727010
We don't know
>>23726981
Gill's actor said if the movie is going film the G3 team having yakiniku at his restaurant he will be showing up there as a attendant.
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Felt like the other three will get produced too?
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>>23727031
That is an older concept from SIC Hero Saga. Mirage Agito is a serial killer.
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>>23727050
There's a theory about the ones without Kamen Rider in the logo means it will be higher budget theatrical movie, while the ones with the original logo will be lower budget V-Cinext.
The way the Kabuto logo look is similar to Faiz 20th, OOO 10th or the Sentai Years After movies.
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soon
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>>23727073
broke ass dude
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BLACK HAZARD ON
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My sides.
It's time to hunt again.
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>>23727011
Caking and Plasma are literally the "main" Q1 Reiwa upgrades with the least amount of appearances at this point in the show (episode 19).
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>>23726990
AAAAaAgIIIIIIIITOOOoo.
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>>23727277
Lord 3 won't be
There's a tertiary Rider who we don't know the identity of, so it could potentially be 5 or 6, but it's far likelier that the tertiary will be a new character and all 3 of the Lords won't become Riders in the show and at most will become Riders on a movie or special
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>G Unit works to solve the case
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Man, I just watched Agito towards the end of the year and loved it. Hikawa quickly became one of my top three secondary Riders. I really hope Inoue doesn't pull another Paradise Regained on this one.
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I hope that Gills doesn't die, that Hikawa doesn't permanently obtain psyquic powers and that they don't further assassinate Hojo's character like how the unplanned final arc in Agito did.
Still I'm pretty excited, while Shirakura, Inoue and Tasaki are inconsistent with their work, I'm still happy they got the original staff to work on this. Agito is personally my third favorite Kamen Rider season only being beaten by Build and Ryuki, so it having a higher production movie makes me hopeful, Inoue can do big budget movies as proven with the Hakaider one but at the same time he can make massive fuck ups like The Next so as always one can't know what to expect with this.
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>>23727329
Takebe talked about how the advanced filming made it so that they don't have to rely as much in premium Bandai, so I guess while not impossible it's way riskier to make retail female Rider toys, so from now on female Riders will probably be more rare.
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Will there be new forms?
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I wonder if Tomoi could even do the Gills screams well anymore. He was damn good at it during the show but it's been 25 years.
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>>23727336
Kind of.
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>>23727400
Agree
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>all that yellow electricity in the trailer
Baku has gone mad.
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>>23727440
Yeah they said they were going to have a conference for it on April 3rd
>>23727441
Same rating as Shin Kamen Rider and it's written by Inoue so yes
But it will also have goofy moments because Inoue
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>G3 is a useless piece of shit
>Make an even shittier G3
Somene explain this logic to me. What is the point of G3 Mild? The original G3 was already completely inadequate for fighting monsters, so they made a DOWNGRADED version?
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This stupid nigger's feed is filled with crying about ICE deporting criminals. Now I REALLY want him to come back. It's all so gay and performative.
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>>23727521
>you don't really hate the retards on twitter, you're just being performative
Were you dropped on your head as a kid?
Every person doing laps about his actor not coming back also cries about ICE doing their job. He represents all those retards, they're interchangeable. When you're doing that on a public forum like twitter, yes, it's performative.
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>>23727469
>Resembles the show itself in the writing
>Trash fire
Did you forget how Takumi arkwardly eating ramen for 5 minutes and that thing gets repeated occasionally through out the show. Oh, and washing the clothes. Don't forget the laundry, very important to the plot.
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He's gonna do it!
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Someone should remind him that that goes both ways and Imamori Maya will never come back, see how much he will shut up
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>>23727058
All of Saber's auxiliary Riders can pull their weight when push comes to shove. The best example of this is in the final battle.
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>>23727587
It does have a manga that starts out as the typical battle shonen.
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>>23727597
Samefag
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Samefag.
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Samefag
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>>23727465
G3 Mild was explicitly meant to be a cheap, easy to produce G3 anyone can use, but completely misses the point that G3's true strength comes not from the suit, but from Hikawa himself. The only reason the original G3 is even remotely effective is because Hikawa is in it. Any time anyone else wears it, it ends up jobbing worse. Hell, G3-X is fucky in its first couple of deployments because it's "too perfect" and they have to actually tune it down because it operates better when Hikawa can do his own thing.
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TokuSato subbed the Nox Transformation Class.
Es
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J9Yboh5X20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUxhsplvWyo
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>>23727635
>The only reason the original G3 is even remotely effective is because Hikawa is in it.
I remember differently. I remember Hikawa consistently getting his ass handed to him up until the G3-X upgrade, which gave him a better chance but he was still struggling in fights.
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>>23727635
The power of the indomitable human spirit. To give it a more recent comparison, Hikawa is like Agito's Mumen Rider. Just because he can't fist fight a god, that won't stop him from trying. Because people need him to.
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>>23727635
>but completely misses the point that G3's true strength comes not from the suit, but from Hikawa himself
Hojo kicked a Lord's ass and saved a kid the very first time he put on the G3 suit. Shouichi also killed a Lord the one time he used the G3-X suit.
In a world where angels can die to grenade launchers and gatling guns, it's not a bad idea to have more G3s running around. It's much worse to rely entirely on a single person who will have to retire sooner or later. Hikawa said it himself, he's just a human, any human has the potential to be as good as him, that's why they show Omuro training a whole squad at the end of the series.
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My one grip about the new Agito movie is why the hell would they still be using the same G3 units 25 years later with no changes or advancements? Is the MPD so underfunded that they can't afford to upgrade their special monster killing suit even a little bit in two and a half decades?
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>In a world where angels can die to grenade launchers and gatling guns
I don't think G Riders use common stuff. Did you see how G4 nuke the shit out of Zi-O using his rocket launcher? Those things are engineered to kill Angels.
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>>23727689
G3X is already what you described. The only way to make these things more effective is to use a human victim and an ultra powerful artificial intelligence, which is something Ozawa and no sane human would want to do. G3 is permanently held back by the humanity aspect of it.
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>>23727719
Okay, but not improving or upgrading the regular G3 suit in any way whatsoever? Imagine if your job required you to carry a cellphone and your employer handed you this.
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>>23727753
It is stupid, but at the same time you have to remember this isn't just regular tech; it's costly specialized weaponry that may not have warranted regular usage in 25 years. It's understandable they'd be a little lax about upgrading it.
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>>23727755
>We live in a world where monster attacks are not an uncommon occurrence, there are supernatural elements to this world we don't full understand, and the events of the Agito situation proved beyond a doubt that his could potentially happen again at any time
>Eh, we're not going worry about it. Funding denied.
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are there more dr kino pics like this i can find?
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>>23727761
To be fair, it is just like real world where there are forces we don't truly understand and it is the best to not fucking around with it. Not to mention how the police department knows about G3X and G4's A.I, it is such a pandora box that even they are afraid and for good reasons.
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He was in the leaked photos we saw. But if that summary they put out is real, then he isn't the focus of the movie, Kagami is.The title of the movie also points to him being retired for someone else. ZIO also was pushing Kagami as the new Kabuto. If that's the case, this movie may be hated more than OOOs 10.Most of the comments about a potential Kabuto movie on Twitter are saying that only want it if Tendo comes back. Killing or retiring him will kill Kabuto as a brand.
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What's your favorite trope regarding final forms?
Mine is basic, but better.
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>>23727859
Don't know about favorite, but replacing the basic driver with an entirely new one bugs the shit out of me.
Like when Kaito switched from Banana Arms to Lemon Energy arms, he straight up removed the Sengoku Driver to replace it with the Genesis Driver, but he didn't de-transform at any point during that.
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>>23727882
Lemon Baron was a last minute mid-production decision because Baron ended up being unexpectedly popular. He was never going to get a "final form" at first unless you count Lord Baron, which was always in the cards. I'm sure they settled on giving him a Genesis Driver and Lemon because the colors matched and that was basically the whole of that thought process.
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>>23727684
Man, I was disappointed Zi-O cheapened out and made the G5 Unit just use mass produced G3s, rather than "G5" being the name of a new armor. It could have been just a repaint. But considering how G3 and G3-X were in the trailer, I guess we're stuck with no real G5 armor. Although I guess we might still get some kind of Hikawa specific upgrade.
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>>23727884
Yeah, but I meant what he referenced and complained about there (Baron removes his belt, stays transformed, then changes for the Genesis Driver). Later Riders that got different belts for final forms, didn't switch between them without undoing their transformation like Baron did. They were generally knocked out of transformation and then use the new belt, or just start with the new belt.
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>>23727886
There's a G4-X in SIC Hero Saga. It's basically just G4 painted blue with a single G3-X shoulderpad.
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>>23727896
In tv ratings it did better than Den-O. Toy sales are rather low, but at least it's a recovery after Hibki and Blade saw two years of lower and lower sales. People forget you can't turn these numbers around instantly since they depend on store shipments.
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>>23727859
I kind of miss there being separate items used in conjunction with the belt. So Separate Item/Hybrid.
>>23727886
I'm still holding out hope there's a G3 upgrade somewhere down the line, even if it's just a kitbash.
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>>23727922
Yeah, Kabuto pretty much saved KR from going under after Hibiki's total failure as a show and as a production. Den-O became a phenomenon because of how live action anime it felt, which is why so much KR had that live action anime feel for the foreseeable future.
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>Kabuto pretty much saved KR from going under after Hibiki's total failure as a show and as a production.
That's funny when you consider the fact that like Hibiki, Kabuto also completely fell apart after its halfway point. There might not have been the same director change bullshit that ruined Hibiki, but you could really feel the writers were just throwing shit at the wall to see what stuck after Gatack showed up.
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I'll give you that, but I still preferred the tone and direction of the show's first half.
I don't know what the point of Dark Kabuto was either, pretty sure but even the writers knew when he first showed up.
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It got the most votes because it was clearly the one that’s gonna actually happen.
We’ve had rumors about it for months now.
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The most beautiful woman to have ever graced Kamen Rider.
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-Making Kagami's captain (can't remember his name) a native worm despite the earlier episodes establishing he had a family restaurant business
-the native worms, I don't think they were introduced into the show with the intention of making them the big bands
-Hopper Riders, just what
-Was Mishima intended to be the final bad guy from the start or no? Guy was obviously more than human given we saw him force the TheBee zector to work for him
-Turning Tsurugi into a pathetic buttmonkey. Some degree of it makes sense but they really overdid it
-The Red Shoe system. Really felt like that was supposed to be important at some point, but it wasn't.
-The commander Worms really didn't seem to be working towards any kind of greater goal, they were just there in the end.
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Both of them becoming insane hobo doesn't make any sense. Yeah they got fired, so what? They were professional agents before, the development doesn't make any sense at all. What the fuck is "i went through hell"?
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I was hoping for some kind of explanation about what happened to Yagaruma, like he discovered something related to the worms that mentally broke him, or ZECT did something that fucked with his head relating to the Hopper Zector, which itself felt like an opportunity to be some kind of failed prototype or something.
I don't mind what happened to Kageyama given he was an asskissing loser snake from the getgo, but it was still disappointing.
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That's weird because Hiyori's whole existence felt a little arbitrary to the show's overall structure, more of a personal side plot for Tendou alone.
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And that's the issue. Inoue wasn't the main writer but seemed to still act with authority due to his seniority and fame at the time, so you get the show twisting itself when Inoue doens't line up with Yonemura (like Inoue introducing Tsurugi as a serious rival for Tendo, while Yonemura immediately made him a joke and had him gravitating more towards a Kagami friendship, then Inoue gets the episode where Kagami is supposed to learn Tsurugi is a worm, but since he doesn't care about any of that it gets just a few minutes of a two partern, completely unrelated to the main plot, and with little reaction or impact, and, of course, Tsurugi's final arc is by Inoue again, so the Kabuto rivalry suddenly takes center stage after being forgotten for months).
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>>23728000
Inoue wrote filler episodes only. Every "important" plotlines were done by Yonemura and guess what, he forgot over half of them.
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>>23727969
It's pretty funny to imagine the remaining Lords just chilling in the woods somewhere. While humanity enters a age of chaos as errant Agitos run rampant.
Though there's probably as many Lords as there are species of animals. So they might all just be for the Overlord to decide the human experiment is over again.
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Today is January 29 in Japan, 20 years since the premiere of Kamen Rider Kabuto. Say anything about the man who walks the path of heaven and his series on his 20th anniversary.
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>-the native worms, I don't think they were introduced into the show with the intention of making them the big bands
Even in the movie, that was show fairly early on, it turns out Zect was working for the "2nd stage Worms" that look identical to the Native worms from the show. This was 100% planned.
>-Hopper Riders, just what
Riku throwing random factors the worms couldn't control (He mentions the gates of hell opening right before Yaguruma returns with the Kick Hopper Zecter).
>-Turning Tsurugi into a pathetic buttmonkey. Some degree of it makes sense but they really overdid it
This one was a Inoue vs Yonemura thing. Inoue wanted him as a brocken version of Tendo that was his rival with a dark secret, Yonemura wanted him as Kagami's goofy friend with a dark secret. Inoue did use him for humor too later on though (although doing random stuff like pairing him up with Hoppers), but then brought back the Kabuto focus for the finale.
>-The Red Shoe system. Really felt like that was supposed to be important at some point, but it wasn't.
This one is the main excuse for kicking out Riku from Zect's leadership, as an example he had been plotting against the Native.
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She interacted with Kagami a lot in the first half and was supposed to develop a romantic relationship with him (Yonemura published a post-Kabuto short novel before the series actually ended which just started with the assumption they'd get together during the later episodes, which ended up not happening). She's isolated to Tendo-only exactly when they need to reduce her actress' role and she could barely appear outside of limited sets.
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>>23727859
Overall I'd say the bigger/unique gimmick item, especially if it has special engineering to make the belt look different like Xtreme or Over Master.
It has the same visual effect of a separate item but feels more consistent with the Rider's identity and seeing the item pop open as the transformation begins is super cool.
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>>23728010
Teehee, oops did her beauty scare you into seeing the truth?
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Ryuki was the first series I actually saw, even though it had the bad HK subs. After that I saw 555 and I was hooked.
Much as I enjoyed Kabuto, the second half was pretty disappointing, and I can't say I felt the same way about the series after Den-O.
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I've been tempted to go back and rewatch Kabuto-Decade one of these days since I watched all of that as it aired, which was when TVN was the only reliable sub group at the time and I know the quality of their subs at that time was highly questionable (e.g. banana new shoe).
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>>23728066
Better than to be fall for the white girl look the others have been chasing
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Samefagging gotshartfag
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Yeah, should've expected it
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Samefagging Geatsfaggot.
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>>23727993
>I was hoping for some kind of explanation about what happened to Yagaruma, like he discovered something related to the worms that mentally broke him
Losing everything is what broke him.
>the Hopper Zector, which itself felt like an opportunity to be some kind of failed prototype or something
It was a mass production prototype, the Hopper Zecter is the only Zecter in the show to have a second unit.
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>Later Riders that got different belts for final forms, didn't switch between them without undoing their transformation like Baron did
Ghost did. I don't even remember an instance of a Rider willingly detransforming just to swap belts mid-fight, usually they stop using the weaker belt altogether or they get beaten up and detransformed before they switch.
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Melon Energy and Jimber are Japanese style armors, which don't fit Baron's European knight aesthetic. Baron and Duke are the same type of Rider, and thus the latter's Lemon Energy is a European type armor as well. In fact, the JP Wiki states that there was initially a proposal for Kaito to steal Ryoma's Genesis Driver and transform into a differently-colored Kamen Rider Duke .
Also, one of the reasons they gave Baron a power-up was so that he could have a power balance with Gaim. Baron Lemon Energy has nearly all-around better stats than Jimber Lemon, and at that point in the series Gaim had already gotten Kachidoki, so giving Baron a power-up that was somewhere between Jimber and Kachidoki power-wise was a better choice than giving him a form that was only on par with Gaim's previous upgrade.
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>>23727853
There's no point in fretting over how Decade's death in ZvD fits into the continuity because it has already been established that he can always revive as long as people remember him back during his first death in Movie War 2010. Even Woz hinted that he'll come back, so that death literally doesn't matter.
Also the Gotchard movie can't take place in the past because of all the crossover that have happened since Zi-O.
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>>23728202
I think people also bring up the past Decade idea due to him using the original DecadeDriver in his Gotchard cameos, rather than the Neo DecadeDriver. But, really, the Neo Decade Driver is something associated with Zi-O. You likely won't see it if Decade returns and it's not a Zi-O movie.
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>>23728223
All this discussion of timelines is pointless, because the timeline is whatever Toei says it is. Tell me, do all Kamen Riders exist in the same world, or do they exist in separate worlds? Or do some exist in separate worlds and only crossover when needed? Do Riders and Sentai exist in the same world? They did for a while, or maybe they didn't. Maybe Riders don't exist, or maybe they do. Maybe Riders can literally just be imagined into existence. Personally, I'm glad Rider doesn't have a rigidly strict timeline that has to be militantly adhered to like doctrine, it doesn't needed western comic style set in stone timelines as long as everything is entertaining to watch.
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>>23728069
Man, Den-O was such a good-looking suit. That really was sort of the golden era when it came to good-looking suit designs, from Kuuga to Decade, there were just no misses when it came to suit designs. I mean, I dunno, maybe Blade Ace Form wasn't great. I liked the helmet and chestpiece fine, but the bodysuit always looks kinda cheap.
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>type latino
What did Shinnosuke meant by this?
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>>23727174
>I will defend abusers just to be a contrarian because some faggot on twitter i dont like said something correct for once
If you ever get in a terrible situation in life I hope someone you dont like on social media defends you so I can see what you do. Probably commite suicide out of contrarianism.
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>standalone belt meant to replace the main riders belt for one form
this thing is so unique I can't help but respect the audacity of it. Refreshing to get a belt that's fun without having a trillion fucking gimmick items to BUY BUY BUY
Makes me miss Riders like Kuuga, Agito, Den-O, or Kiva. Riders with not many form changes but they get a healthy amount of usage. Den-O and Kiva in particular are really fun for those gimmick figures that replicate form changing. Gaim and everything after Drive form changes just felt like they didn't really have much impact behind them. Hard to explain.
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>>23728355
Oh, Demons. We could have saved you...
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>>23728360
Inoue was vague as to which scene was meant to be a sex scene since he said it was a scene of main characters characters eating, but out of all of the scenes that's the one that makes the most scene so yeah
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>>23728361
>raped by terrible CGI genome parts
>raped by lack of screentime
>raped by slut-belt-sharing with Olteca
>raped by giving up tertiary rider status to... Jeanne
>raped by Over Demons
>raped by Get Over Demons
>raped by mass-produced trooper clones
>raped by shitty V-cinema super form that is a downgrade in every way
Y-yeah, totally salvageable...
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>>23728279
>Dragonic Knight can basically perform Advent
>13 Riders (14 if you count the ones from post-show TTFC miniseries)
>similar poses
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>>23728367
>>raped by terrible CGI genome parts
People liked those before the show went to shit, they made him look "monstruous in a cool way" or something like that.
>>raped by slut-belt-sharing with Olteca
Orteca was a more competent Demons than Hiromi but people hated him just because he wasn't Hiromi and took the belt away from him.
>>raped by Over Demons
People wouldn't have cared much if it had been Hiromi or even the Igarashi's dad, but it turned out to be Hikaru instead.
>>raped by mass-produced trooper clones
>>raped by shitty V-cinema super form that is a downgrade in every way
Nobody would've cared if the show hadn't gone to shit, plus some people did like Imperial Demons.
It's amazing how anons did a complete 180 on their opinions about every single one of Revice's aspects just because they got extremely hyped about the show and then it dropped the ball really bad. And you can't deny any of my statements above, there's archived evidence.
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>>23728315
Drive: Type Lowrider
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>>23728383
I cant believe Saber was Reiwa Ryuki this whole time
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>>23728342
Because the toylines changed. Back then you buy a belt you get everything that can be used with it. Den-O, Kiva and Decade can access all their initial forms. With Double you still get that but Metal and Trigger are locked behind weapons. OOO is fully the first one where you need add-ons and it only goes from there.
If Kiva was made today Fuestles are full time gimmick, and Kivat belt will only give you a Wake Up Fuestle, and even a transformation Fuestle. No more Kivat biting you.
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The reason Cure Black is special and formerly seen as a custom color until ZukyoonKiss happened. This episode of Kamen Rider Black is basically a soft debut for Yoko Honna as a child star.
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>>23728534
Can't believe they killed Kamen Rider Faiz before the final episode. I don't like the Wolf Orpnoch guy.
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>>23728506
>Movie exclusive
>One off belt stealing
>Movie exclusive
>Literally NPCs
>Belt swapping
>Movie exclusive
>Movie exclusive
>Same suit as the male one
>When Rider started to go shit
>Worst Heisei show
>Cringe dogshit for anime otaku
>Half baked anniversary with a somewhat decent movie
Isn't it funny? Kamen Rider started to become unwatchable when female riders become more prominent.
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>>23728551
>>One off belt stealing
Delta's first on-screen user was a girl, she got the belt stolen from her, not the other way around. And then Delta got a second female user.
>>Literally NPCs
Shuki was one of the Hibiki Riders outside of the main four to not be an NPC, she got a face actress and a 2-parter focused on her.
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>>23728497
I really hope that TTFC can eventually do multi-form no gimmick riders again. Admittedly there's a ton of items that don't necessarily NEED gimmick items but they're for one form riders and just don't hit the same. I kinda wish we got something more like Ryuki or Blade again where the gimmicks are centered around the weapons.
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>>23728564
By that logic then Shouichi is officially G3X due to that 2 minutes of him using it. You are trying to reach so hard.
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>>23728569
>I kinda wish we got something more like Ryuki or Blade again where the gimmicks are centered around the weapons.
They tried that, with forms only limited to three and such (before upgrades) and the gimmicks are weapons. Drive was the last to do that but they didn't sell, although maybe it's just more because of Yokai Watch than anything. But since Ghost, every collectable equals to new form. Frankly it's why I feel like Gotchard's card gimmicks wasn't as good as previous card Riders, because the cards are tied to forms. If majority of the Chemmies are attacks/weapons it would have a much better showing.
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Yukina Sawaki is my favourite female rider. No no just ignore the fact that she killed herself before the main story started, i'm trying to reach.
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>>23728534
Why are you being a pedantic faggot? You knew what he meant
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>>23728574
Drive still visually changes with each Tire, it is not drastic but the torso is one of the main hook of a design. The last Rider that doesn't change his appearance with minor gimmicks was Fourze i think. He grows weapons on his limbs, but overall looks the same.
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>>23728342
>Gaim and everything after Drive form changes just felt like they didn't really have much impact behind them. Hard to explain.
No, I get you. Form changes have felt more disposable in recent years. While the increased toy schedule is partly to blame, the fault also lies on writers and action directors who just don't know how to work with the glut of forms available. I know every series can't have Sakamoto attached, but it's still disappointing.
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>>23728506
>Ryuki
First female rider. Movie only
> 555
Female users not riders. Doesn’t count and you know it.
>>23728557
> Delta's first on-screen user was a girl
That’s irrelevant. Delta’s two main users are Kitazaki and Mihara. Those two had their voices included in the CSM.
> Blade
One female rider movie only
> Kiva
Female users not female riders. See above point about CSM.
>Decade
Movie only
>Fourze
Movie only
>Wizard
Technically user
>Gaim, Ghost, Ex-Aid and Zi-O
Extra riders and weird one-offs. Reiwa is when they started to become more prominent and consistent
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>>23728175
>Daisuke's key episodes, Tsurugi's introduction and death, Uca Worm's death and Dark Kabuto's debut
Most of Kabuto fans don't give a flying fuck about Drake and his kaijin girlfriend. Atleast some feels bad for Sasword, but he was a literal gag character the whole time. Inoue didn't write the entire script of Kabuto, he only wrote what Yonemura planned.
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>>23728590
>some feels bad for Sasword, but he was a literal gag character the whole time.
It was okay when he thought he was still rich, but after he discovered he was broke things just went from funny to insufferable.
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>>23728574
Yo-kai Watch indirectly killing sentai with Ninninger while also falling off not soon after will always be so baffling. I enjoy the games myself, rare hunting in 1 was a masochistic pleasure.
I have a lot of respect for Gotchard's toyline for most items being able to read over 100 cards. Though Legendriver only coming with 3 cards is insulting for a belt thats ugly as shit and the Kamen Riser being horrifically awkward in design. Still a vastly oversized toyline.
>>23728586
When OOO did the all combo thing in the movie it was really cool and each Combo had its own abilities being showcased. When Rainbow Gotchard summons Gotcharbrothers I feel nothing because most of them do the same thing. They barely give alt forms any screen to anymore, really think they'd be better off just dropping gimmick items altogether and focus entirely on upgrade items for how rarely something like Gavv's Zakuzaku Chips appeared.
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>>23728582
Gavv's Assist Gochizo come to mind. Though admittedly with the gochizo theres zero fucking design distinction from the form change gochizo.
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THEY'RE STILL AROUND???
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>>23728488
I assume that they're satisfied with just relegating them to Girls Remix / Eins, I'm glad that the advanced schedule sort of dialed back the toy shilling as to how it was back during Wizard to Ghost
>>23728612
Yeah they still do yearly concerts, get outfits based on current airing seasons and they also cameo'd on Gotchard
>>23728613
It's still Kamen Rider news, I assume that there's at least a few anons watching it since on /a/ I see anons that watch both Kamen Rider and it even if most anons there just stick to the anime without watching actual Kamen Rider
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>>23728613
I like showa tokusatsu for the crazy stunts they do but I do not care for tokusatsu themed anime. My joy of tokusatsu comes from stunts and there's no stunts in a flat 2D animation. They should break a guys leg on every production for the sake of better stunts.
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>>23728613
I care, it's a pretty great Air Master sequel.
I don't get why the author chose this direction for a Kamen Rider manga and it does feel like he's sucking himself but I don't mind as long as the show is fun.
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>>23728621
Problem with female riders was the writers are just fucking terrible. If more female riders like Sabela and less like Jeanne we'd live in a better world. Personality while not detracting from anyone else's screen time. Jeanne and Na-go felt like they ate up a ton of screentime to the detriment of other characters who SHOULD be more prevalent. IDK about Majade though, her actress was terrible so I didn't watch. I swear it's like the range in Reiwa female riders is either the writers favorite or a nothingburger personality with Sabela as the single sole exception.
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How far in production should the next Kamen Rider season be? Gavv and Zeztz had more devtime than usual but from my understanding they're exceptions rather than a new norm due to the advance filming
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>>23728639
But Sabela in the show itself kind of sucks aside from fights and Reika being hot, it's weird because in the Zenkaiger crossover, her post-series special and in the blu-ray two-parter, her and Durandal are actually extremely likeable and I don't know what's up with that since those were written by the show's staff. My guess is that they couldn't give them enough screen time due to the big cast.
But back to your point female riders aren't an inherently bad thing but just like how modern seasons get each screwed by different unrelated factors, every in-series female rider has so far been disappointing by one reason or another behind the scenes to the point I consider not having female riders a safer decision from a writing standpoint.
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>>23728634
Yonemura is more worrying than Inoue. His writing credit for Kamen Rider is full of Super Hero Taisen slops and even Kabuto itself was a mess. Unless there is a miracle and Yasuko Kobayashi writes Kabuto movie, it is gonna stink.
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>>23728639
I think the most likable Female Rider so far is Tsukuyomi, but that has more to do with the fact that she spent entire show to bond with Sougo and his uncle before finally getting her own Rider form. Atleast her status as a Rider is earned, not handed over from the start.
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>>23728641
They already filmed new series starting this month, Yuya Nawata post kinda implied he's becoming part of it.
https://x.com/yuya_nawata/status/2011816505533743549
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>>23728677
Yasuko Kobayashi will obviously not write the Kabuto movie but I could definitely see her returning if a Den-O anniversary movie by Shirakura ends up happening
I try not to judge writers just on their toku stuff and Super Hero Taisens were mostly bad due to other factors, Yonemura wrote Smile Precure and Kaidan Restaurant which were great but he also wrote some of, if not the worst Lupin III movies, Decade's last third, Glass no Kantai and some of the most retarded Pokémon movies so I'm extremely scared
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>>23728612
>Though admittedly with the gochizo theres zero fucking design distinction from the form change gochizo.
The distinction is in the belt sounds. The jingles of Form Change Gochizo end with the belt saying a related onomatopeia and their finishers are all called "Finish", while the belt just shouts the name of the Assist Gochizo and nothing more during the jingle and an Assist finisher is something other than "Finish" like "Punch" or "Fire".
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>>23728699
Honestly Den-O itself was a sour experience for me due to the absent of Hana's actress in the later half of the show and the later movies didn't even have the proper Ryotaro, making the series to be so alien and disconnected. The lastest appearance of Satoh Takeru was kinda terrible, too, the guy became older and suddenly lost his capability to act. Den-O movie is gonna suck, having Kobayashi or not.
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>>23728708
>suddenly lost his capability to act
He didn't the problem is his autistic agency which forces him to get typecasted, the agency only allowed him to cameo'd if he was possessed by Urataros
God I hate these fucking agencies, same shit happened with Go-On Yellow and some Yakuza games not being able to get actors back
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>>23728590
Your feelings towards those characters are irrelevant.
>>23728597
>Wait until you find out that Inoue wrote 9 episodes of Kuuga, 14 episodes of Ryuki and 7 episodes of Blade
He wrote more episodes of Kabuto than he did for any of those shows.
>Head writer and co writer are 2 different positions.
I never said he was the head writer, he still wrote several important episodes of the show and had a generally bad synergy with Yonemura though.
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>>23728711
You can tell how expressive and funny Urataros back then vs the dull, stoic version of Heisei Gen Forever. He cannot replicate the Imagin that fits his current style, let alone the rest of the gang and Ryotaro's true self. The best, we are gonna see this same Urataros again while the rest of the movie focuses on New Den-O if his actor is still around.
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>>23728708
Which is funny considering that Takeru Satoh shot into stardom because of his acting range, but the agency restricts him because of image. Like I really wanna see current Takeru Satoh acting meek as Ryotaro.
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>>23728574
>If majority of the Chemmies are attacks/weapons it would have a much better showing
That's what they effectively were, most of them were used for attacks instead of forms. They happen to have forms attached to them, but we didn't see most of those forms, they were used for special attacks instead.
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>>23728608
This is why I loved NewGen Ultraman, because of their shorter series the have less forms and they get a lot of showcase with it. I also think the problem with bloat forms are that they're way too specific. I'd rather have a 'strong form', 'speed form' basics.
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>>23728713
>had a generally bad synergy with Yonemura though.
Yonemura wrote most of Kabuto/Gatack centric episodes and you know how flat their stories fell. Inoue wrote that funny Dark Kitchen arc, which was fitting to what Yonemura wrote for Tendo. The character dynamics and development wouldn't change if remove all of Inoue episodes.
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>>23728722
It is both funny and sad to see how this dude has been making the same facial expression and acting range after Den-O. Perpetually cursed with type casting.
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>>23728646
Reika was decent as a villain up until her brother entered the picture, their TTFC special was good though.
Rinne is probably the most well-written female Rider in Reiwa, people may hate her for her acting, but that's unrelated to her actual writing as a character, which was decent. She wasn't insufferable nor did she hog the spotlight way more than she should, and she did have a good relationship with the MC, though there was a bit of wasted potential in her storylines and she comes across as really mid for Secondary Rider standards. Honestly, a pretty inoffensive character, which is already much better than what most other female trio members are like. The only other decent one was Mayu/Mage, though she also suffered from a bit of wasted potential.
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>>23728707
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>>23728738
Why? Alisa is not fitting for her character
In a good scenario Reiyo and Ayaka from Geats had swapped roles, since Reiyo actually excels at playing brat characters like Beroba and Ayaka is an actual actress with good range so she could have played Rinne with no problem aside from her distracting nose
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>but the agency restricts him because of image
>He didn't the problem is his autistic agency which forces him to get typecasted, the agency only allowed him to cameo'd if he was possessed by Urataros
It was Satoh's idea to appear as U-Ryotaro instead of normal Ryotaro when he read the script. And it was his agency who discussed having him make a surprise cameo in the film, after the news of another actor's surprise appearance in one of the Kenshin movies.
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>>23728701
I'm talking about the visual designs. There's nothing in the design language that differentiates them. Shift cars had the pinstripes as visual, failing that was the logo on the underside.
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>>23728737
Yeah, Majade was honestly a pretty good secondary that always felt like a reliable partner as much as I liked Spanner a bit better with his early Heisei jerk secondary vibes. Her character was just boring and Houtaro wasn't exactly entertaining either, so as a duo they were just mid. But I did like that they fought together a lot.
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>>23728725
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>>23728737
Imo the only the decent female Riders are Malika and Poppy
Malika is one-note but she at least was consistently cool while Poppy was legitimately likeable character with a good character arc who barely transformed because the writer didn't intend her to become a rider
I agree with Rinne being well-written, hell I'd even go as far to say she's the best written Rider out of the Gotchard trio but her acting made it the least likeable somehow, Reiyo easily the worst non-child recurring actress I've seen in toku aside from Rejewel in Abaranger, while she indeed was miscasted usually actors manage to improve during the show's run but she really stayed just as bad while playing Rinne
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>>23728769
nta and I also hate newGEN Ultraman but imo the shorter episode format isn't a bad thing but rather how the producer that's been handing handling the franchise since Ginga been limiting the ideas of everyone else from the staff.
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visually I think she's boring. like generated by chinese ai levels of boring. Gotchards signature arrow eyes, Valvarad's wrench head, Legend aping decade's card eyes, Dread's weird partially covered eyes, even Eld and Dorado's horns, each rider had a signature and consistent element to their helmets except the Alchemisdriver riders who look pretty much identical. Closest thing I can think of her helmet's signature is... hair, but the 'hair' changes across forms with Mooncerberos. Idk, I think gotchard was as messy as Revice in terms of lack of consistent designs. I miss the days of riders sharing a base template like Gaim or Ex-Aid. Don't talk to me about Geats I hate that shows designs even worse.
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>>23728767
I have a feeling he will start teaming up with Baku very soon as they get mad at CODE together while the latter sort of ignores that Nox is also working for a villain group until The Lady makes her "surprise" big villain move. Kind of like how Aruto teamed up with known terrorists several times just to shit on Gai, and only realized he shouldn't have helped them out when it was already too late.
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>>23728778
I like Majade's hairstyles. I don't see how the "hair" changing between different form changes is supposed to be a con, especially when all the hairstyles still retain the same segmented plate-like aesthetic for visual consistency.
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>>23728801
I think Mooncerberos is her best form. I'm just not a fan of her suit. I like the idea of Valvarad as a secondary more if because his wrench motif contrasts against Gotchards arrows. A great secondary design should either be a compliment or a contrast to the main rider, Majade is just kinda neither in in my view.
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>>23728813
i suppose she does have the vertical arrows compared to gotchards horizontal arrows. Would've preferred them to be her eyes, but then again I guess she'd look like Aorenger if that were the case.
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>>23728727
>Yonemura wrote most of Kabuto/Gatack centric episodes and you know how flat their stories fell.
??? People love the Kabuto/Gatack stories, what are you even about? Inoue not getting that dynamic is one of the problems with his episodes.
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>>23728756
Yeah, aside from the possibility of Satoh being unable to recreate his old action, they also felt like it'd be "wrong" to show an older Ryotaro that hadn't changed at all from how he was before, but also thought it'd be odd to show him wiht a completely different personality, so they went with U-Ryotaro as an excuse to show him acting differently.
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>>23728608
Personally I'm the opposite, the gotcharbrothers felt like the build up of his bond with his chemies and they all interacted in a different way with their abilities and had distinct personalities/mannerisms (venom mariner helped him fight underwater, lightningjungle would electrocute and hold down enemies, antwrestler did it's bodyslamming techniques, etc). The OOO thing was cool in the moment but feels empty when you remember he never does it again and Gatakiriba is never used this well in the main show because of the lack of budget. However I do know around here it's "old thing good, new thing bad" so disregard what I said.
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Tendou has 0 chemistry with any of the characters and his relationship with Hiyori looks more like a creepy pedo trying to groom a teenager. The fact that Hiyori is not his biological sister at all, just some sort of weird copium Tendo made makes it even creepier. Meanwhile Kagami is a shallow character with TWO Worms acting as the plot devices to his fake character development, which ultimately didn't go anywhere because let's be real, the guy was the same person from start to finish. The relationship between the two was a jumbled mess, they seemed to be friends and finally developed camaraderie after Gattack's debut, but no, Tendou decided to keep his suspicion of the Native necklaces for some reason, causing Arata to misunderstand his action because apparently Tendou has reverted back to his badass lonewolf persona who needs no friends. When i watched the endgame storyarc, i thought Inoue wrote that due the amount of dumb drama happened until i looked up who was the writer. Yonemura obviously had no idea what he was doing with the story.
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Main Rider who is a kaijin and has a kaijin suit should be more common.
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The last two shows have gone back to a low number of base forms. Gavv had the 4 base forms + the mecha + a one episode gimmick. Zeztz has had 4 actual base forms before the upgrades.
I think this is a bad choice though, and just ends up doing the same thing that happened with Sentai when they attempt do away with the "all in on" combos. Sales drops, and people who dislike those aspects still complain due to CG powers, collectible or whatever (in Rider's case, in Sentai's it becomes about messy robot design and lack of articulation). You just take a commercial hit without really making anyone happy.
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is Faiz technically the most influential design right next to Ichigo?
Like we’ve gotten a lot of riders afterwards that doesn’t use the classic bug eyed look and instead uses the big screen-like eyes.
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>>23728946
G3 is the first to have screen eyes instead of compound eyes.
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>>23728918
I mean, it sounds like you overall dislike Kabuto, so this is kind of a pointless argument. Yeah, if you can't stand the protagonist, thinks the co-lead is boring, and can't stand the protagonist's and co-lead's interactions with other characters, obviously you'd also dislike Yonemura's writing and wouldn't be bothered by how off a lot of Inue's episodes feel compared to Yonemura's. Whether you enjoy Kabuto or not isn't the point, the issue is just that Inoue's episodes don't fit well with Yonemura's.
Which is why, going back to the start of this discussion, Inoue shouldn't write a Kabuto. He couldn't get the main characters well even at the time of the show.
Obviously, if you don't like Kabuto you probably wouldn't look forward to a Yonemura written movie either, but in that case why would you look forward to a Kabuto movie at all if you don't care for Kabuto?
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>Inoue shouldn't write a Kabuto. He couldn't get the main characters well even at the time of the show.
You keep crying about Inoue when Yonemura wrote the worst part of the show. I'm starting to feel like you did not want to discuss the show's problem at all and just want to cry about the guy who barely wrote the show at a conceptual level. I care for Kabuto because it is a relic of the past, something i watched when i was younger and want to see how the anniversary is gonna turn out. That movie might be good, who knows? However the original show was such an unlikable slopfest, it is really difficult to praise Yonemura or any of the part he wrote.
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By that logic Nox is also a failure as a secondary design. Nox Knight and the Lords compliment Zeztz's design more because they all use the same foundation. Nox has this bizarre jester motif going on that doesn't really fit his character.
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Duality motif
Nox is half-man half-Nightmare
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questions like this makes me confuse about the difference between a motif and a theme of a design.
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>>23728995
>You keep crying about Inoue when Yonemura wrote the worst part of the show.
That's obviously not true for Kabuto fans who enjoyed the show in spite of its flaws, who should be the audience for a new movie.
My point is that it makes no sense to aim a new Kabuto movie at people who think the core of the show was trash.
Heck, I had never seen anyone hating on the 10 initial Yonemura-only episodes before talking with you here.
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You’re a fucking idiot
>>23728956
G3 is based on Kuuga anon. He has the same Showa style eyes
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>>23728933
Oh, I'm aware. That's why I said the problem isn't really the increased schedule, but the writers and action directors not being imaginative enough. You can't really scale back once you've escalated things like that, so all you can really do is make a better show of it by putting more thought into how they're utilized. Which admittedly is a lot to ask, even with the advanced schedule. I guess there's no way around it until something finally gels and they run with it.
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>>23728946
I don't know how influential it is to the designs that came after it, but it's definitely one of the best (I kinda regret and don't at the same time asking my brother for a Kuuga figuarts instead of Faiz, but I haven't watched the show back then).
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Eyes almost covering the entire face started with Stronger.
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>>23728769
The shorter episode format worked well for the first few seasons, it's just now they went downhill because TsuPro is stuck in the past because you oldgoodnewbadfags want it. Do you seriously think 50 episodes can improve something? 50 episode just wasn't ideal, even KR and Sentai suffered with being dragged due to 50 episodes
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Watching Agito episode 20. The gag of Mana and Taichi filling in for Shoichi's job is simple yet so endearing. Idk what it is about Inoue that makes comedy and lighthearted moments really good. Or maybe because I'm used to Inoue's comedic writing that simple gags makes me laugh hard.
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Eh, maybe. Idk, the bad acting put me off so much I couldn't bear to watch it. Besdies that I think there's just too many Chemy.
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See the problem is still that those forms barely get any screen time. Chocodan had 5 total appearances across the entire show. Zeztz has barely used any of his alternate forms. I get the appeal for bigger and bigger upgrade items, don't get me wrong.
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The woes of being a secondary to a Hopper rider. I think they just decided to do the "bright colored secondary rider compared to the dark colored main rider" thing again. Also the way his gear spins is different from the normal capsems. Hoppers just seem to have weak themed secondarys. I still seethe that tycoon was sidelined so hard. But as >>23729033
pointed out yeah he's a fucking clown compared to super serious agent lmao.
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(Build) I thought Evolt said his Black Hole form was his true/original form. Why is he depicted in his final boss kaijin body in a pre-series flashback in the Banjo movie? Also, did that "Evolt novel" ever come out? It might clarify this if so.
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The only moment of happiness he had in the previous episode... gone.I see what they're with Kiba, guess rivals until the end. And Mihara stop you can only get kicked in the nuts so much.
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Vulcan and Valkyrie aren't all that terrible, but Vulcan especially doesn't resemble his theme animal at all. They tried to make his "wolf ears" look more like traditional Rider antennae and it makes his face look more like a horse.
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Zeztz will probably be on the longer side and reach 50 episodes, maybe
The plot has moved but very slowly at the producer's request because he wanted the show to feel like a cop drama just like Kuuga, that's because this is the first time the producer heads a toku only having been a vice producer for Ex-Aid, Build and Outsiders before, with most of his experience consisting of him serving as co-producer of action/thriller drama.
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>because you oldgoodnewbadfags want it
The only retard clamoring for shorter series here is you.
>Do you seriously think 50 episodes can improve something? 50 episode just wasn't ideal
Heisei Ultra was around 50 episodes on average and its average quality was far better than New Gen's. The only good short Rider show is Stronger, and it's still longer than the average New Gen show.
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If Baku and Nox becomes allies just out of pragmatism due to CODE going after them both, and Nox eventually still dies an antagonist, I won't be so mad. Might be the only way the character can be on the good guys's side and still not really "redeem" him.
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>>23729410
Anon you and I both know Takahashi's favorite writing habit is making a villain who is blatantly not a good person and near impossible to redeem into a begrudging but ultimately good-aligned ally of justice and even a wacky character now.
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Just finished Eins with Girls Remix and Nayuta referring to herself in third person honestly made her sound really autistic. It was great to see Nadeshiko again, but Nadeshiko helping take out Fatale kinda made Eins seem weak and took away from the already little screen time Eins had. Hopefully they just end doing a full special with just Eins so she can stand out more and not waste the suit.
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If no one is bothered I'll continue the "spam"
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>Pulverize
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Kinda seems like Catastrom is the "main" form out of the two, he even gets his own Capsem
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Yeah it looks kinda stupid
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The Lord Invoker has a special sound for Rise that requires another sound Capsem and leakers have suggested that Lord Three gets an upgrade, but there's no retail release for anything like it. Will it be a P-Bandai item?
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>>23729566
I don't think you realize how unorthodox it is to debut a form that uses the same item a MONTH apart though, anon. Revive and Over/Master debuted within two weeks of each other, a whole month when all it is is just sliding a switch is weird marketing regardless of in-universe reasoning.
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>>23729700
>which made me concerned about Baku losing himself as he becomes more like his enemies
I mean could happen, Takahashi wrote Ark-One after all and he initially intended for Keiwa to be the protagonist but Takebe came up with Ace's character
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