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>zzzzzzz

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Beginner's guide, courtesy of Amerifag:
http://motorcyclebeginnerguide.weebly.com/

>>28821208
>Letting a woman touch your bike
It's fucking cursed now. Old sailors knew the truth of it. Now he has to nail a horseshoe to the seat and bite the head off of a roadkilled squirrel to get rid of the bad luck.

>>28821231
based old salt

>>28821231
That's not to mention the snail trail removal.

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I do like motorcycles

>>28821260
based and beautiful bike

>>28821263
Erm... Yummmers tasty knoxville agate

>>28821263
what jacket?

>>28821278
Some cheap dainese one

>>28821275
That’s drugs mate

>>28821279
>Some cheap dainese one
Thanks, it looks good in the photo.

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>>28821283
Hope this helps you ID it mate I bought it a long time ago so I don’t remember what it’s called

>>28821254
Removal?

That's like removing crust from a pizza.

>>28821285
It looks like you put it through its paces. I appreciate it.

>>28821208
Is it safe to post ITT??

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>>28821301
I think so. You should feel free to post motorcycle related content. even, dare I say, anime. As long as it pertains to bikes.

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FLEX POWER

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>>28821210
>I posted a new /dbt/ before the bump limit. I took an op from 2018. (no effort)
>>28821259
>Thank you. Let's move. (pushy)
>>28821303
>As long as it pertains to bikes. (controlling)
hmm

>>28821317
I might be
>pushy
>controlling
but grabbing an op from 2018 did take at least a little bit of effort.
I did mean it when I said I don't want you to be mad at me.

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yo why come they don't be makin bikes that look like this any mo?

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>>28821338
browns, women, or suits would be my guess.

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>>28821317
Yep, its a chameleon thread.
Someone bake a real one

>>28821340
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>>28821208
Samefag lol
Pathetic

>>28821208
>>28821219
hey guys, OP here
I forgot to fundamental links from previous generals
and the sticky we've had for 5 years
must be the hrt making me a bit of a klutzy girl hehe :3


Links
>https://msf-usa.org
>https://cycle-ergo.com/
>https://superbikeschool.com
>https://ridelikeachampion.com
>https://sharp.dft.gov.uk/helmets

STICKY >>23526953

>>28821349
if you do an msf class you should be shot

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>>28821214
WAKE UP
WAKE UP
WAKE UP SHOOMER
WAKE UP

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Abandon thread lads, this on is a chameleon shit fest of him talking to himself.
Real one is here:
>>28821351

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>>28821346
>>28821346
>>28821346

Semfag, hehe. Gotcha
>>28821349
He also forgot to the monotonous unfunny joke. How dare he!

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>>28821346
MODS
IDs IN NAMEFAG FIELD NOW
THIS BOARD IS WORSE THAN /biz/ NOW
FUCK SAKES
AHHHHHHHHHH

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>>28821355
is the "chameleon" in the room with us right now?

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>>28821338
>>28821340
90's aesthetic is mad kino

>>28821349
It wasn't my intention to leave those out. I just grabbed an old op.

This threads already a shitfest lads.
Real one is here
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>>28821356
;)

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>>28821305
How does one measure their Flex Power?

Surely you have a high enough flex power level anon yes?

>>28821375
I had to reply to you in the same comment because it got flagged as spam otherwise.

I do not post in those threads because making the same joke for a month straight is sad and cringe, no matter how satirical and ironic it may be. And the alternative threat that is omnipresent isn't much better.

>>28821290
>That's like removing crust from a pizza.
Performed with ranch?

This chameleon thread is shit, real one is up
>>28821351

>>28821353
Give the Shroomer™ a break, this man has sacrificed his anus by shoving god knows how many time machine pills up there to revive dbt.

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i'm looking at some sort of street jacket. it's hot as fuck here in the summer, like 100F (38C), and humid. i'm thinking the best option is to go with as light of a mesh jacket as possible and layer with it. so like, put a rain jacket on top or put a hoodie under it or something depending on weather.
but that makes me wonder why people would ever use a non-mesh jacket. like, why have a dedicated cold weather motorcycle jacket, instead of having your "street armor" layer and putting your normal clothes on below/above it?

>>28821398
Speaking from experience a mesh jacket does nothing at that temperature and humidity besides making you feel hotter and moving doesn't help.
As for the cold weather question (You never experienced cold on a bike)
Wind chill sucks, so its a good idea to have the best wind breaker known to man. The dead skin of another creature.

>>28821402
>besides making you feel hotter and moving doesn't help.
there's no shot. i mean, i work outside in this temp and i have to wear long sleeves/pants/boots for work so either i'm coping or i'm just adapted to it. but there's no way that a long sleeve with a bunch of holes in it isn't nice while moving.

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>>28821367
wholesome organic chungus [Open] [Embed] edition

>>28821407
What does this post and image mean? Why do you and the person you are replying to browse in flashbang mode?

>>28821402
>Speaking from experience
Post bike, timestamp and hand

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>>28821418
Give you a jacket instead.
>>28821406
Best way to keep cool is soaking your shirt before you go riding.

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i miss summer

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>>28821412
>What does this post and image mean
the guy who's crying about copypasted threads literally copypasted and forgot to delete the open/embed options from his copypaste

>flashbang mode
its 10am, why would you be using dark mode during the day
open your windows and let some light in


>>28821427
when someone tells you to post hand
call them a tranny and tell them to fuck off

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>>28821435
I could call them a tranny.
Or could make the voices in their head worse and never have to hear from them again.

>>28821427
cheers, sweatie. i guess the alternative choice is to not ride in 100F heat

>>28821427
>Not a bike
>tiny hand
Opinion discarded

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>>28821435
>says the guy who literally is talking to himself
Kek, meds

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>wind storm on way
>make room in shed so bike wont blow over (again)
>havent been riding much last few weeks
>bike under cover
>attempt to move bike
>rear wheel is almost locked up
>wut
>chain is like a guitar string (chain tension was needing done before i stopped riding)
>one or two frozen links

Do i need to give the chain a good clean + lube to free up?

Sprayed some wd40 on the chain, let it sit for 5 minutes and ran the bike up and down my tiny street , barely getting out of 1st gear , seemed to loosen chain up slightly

Never had this happened before tbqh, always keep on top of chain maintenance, new chain + sprokets at the start of last year

>>28821398
I've used Klim's Induction jacket (used because lol, wtf Klim?) at those temps. It's never going to be pleasant at a stop light, but assuming you have a wicking (sp?) base layer, it's okay at speed. Better than a work truck with no a/c and the windows, for example. Just realize, you are going to sweat a ton, and you will not smell nice when you arrive if you are using the bike as transport.

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I did ride my bike today. It was fun. Didn't do a big ride, but a small 20km ride within the city to my friend's house. I took my friend's sister around the block on my bike and she found it really comfortable. More comfortable compared to my previous bike. She's so cute anons, but it'll never work out between us.

I parked it on an incline and its funcking ass, i've still not mastered any big boike techniques. I can't wait to have a gf desu. I wonder what it is like.

>>28821557
>my friend's sister
is she single?

>>28821557
>purple girl
Cute, are you a bmw?

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>>28821559
Yes she is!

>Schizo thread deleted
Did the jannies finally wake up?

>>28821338
You can buy retro graphics kits and plastics if you want the colors, but yeah, it's kind of lame that bike manufacturers tend to ignore the 80s and 90s in their "modern classic" lineups when they produced some of the most visually distinct looks and color combos.

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>>28821566
I do own a BMW.

>>28821557
based, i wish i could give a ride to a cute girl on my 'ku even if it's not a big and comfy gs.

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>>28821395
>give myself a break
>a break from myself postinf about myself?
>a break from the time machine pills?
>a break from the dbt mitosis virus
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
What did he means by this

>>28821398
I have acerbis armor, if you slap a jersey on it yoj look breddy coolio
That would be the only thing id reccommend beyond 30c and being slower than 80kph+ sustained- but even those temps have no windchilling effects whatsoever
Idk
I lile being hot n sweaty with moms spagetti in my hot pockets, its a lifestyle choice of mine; plus autisms

>>28821603
She has ridden with me on my previous bike. G310R.

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>>28821360
>is the "chameleon" in the room with us right now?
I DONT FUCKING KNOW

What's the best bike for ripping a bong and heading out on 2 wheels to go to the dispensary and re-up?

>>28821398
I dealt with Arizona monsoon seasons in a Joe Rocket Phoenix (I think, it was years ago) mesh jacket and pants set with a t-shirt and exercise shorts underneath it. It was tolerable and probably the least uncomfortable protected option in that particular kind of heat and humidity. Bringing a change of clothes in a tailbag is a good idea, too, since you'll be getting stinky no matter what.

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>>28821219
>40HP IS MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR ANYONE

>>28821634
I have 15hp and it's enough for me.

>>28821635
Bring back the Daily Scooter General. That was a comfy thread without chameleon gayness

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>>28821260
Based Honder is based.

>>28821219
Since this list is tailored to sportbike riders, it might be good to start collecting models from other disciplines for when the sticky actually eventually gets revived
I'm mostly into ADV/Dual Sports, which have a lot of crossover in learner bikes so there's a bit more choice depending on whether you want to ride mostly road or dirt. The upside of a lot of these models is that they're still fun to ride even when you move on to bigger bikes.

CRF300L / CRF300L Rally
Shit stock suspension but good enough for a beginner and has room to grow with the rider. It's a great platform to upgrade as you go and many experienced riders prefer it over bigger, more powerful bikes due to its light weight and solid build quality

KLX300 - Alternative to the CRF300 with slightly better off-road chops and better stock suspension, but no ADV variant so fuel range is limited. Lightweight and fun to ride in the dirt.

KLR650 - A classic with a ton of aftermarket, superb reliability, and a good starting point for someone that wants to get into larger adventure bikes. The only one of the Jap 650 Dual Sports to get ABS and fuel injection so far.

And a few bikes that I recommend, but with a couple caveats

TW200 - The most gigachad of all bikes with light weight and fat tires, will go anywhere and do anything except highway speed. Fantastic if you live near trails and/or don't have to go above 60mph . Ancient design with a carburetor and a drum brake in the back.

Himalayan 450 - Much improved over the Himalayan 411. Performance is superior to the KLR650 as an ADV bike and there's a solid three year warranty, but the model is newer and Royal Enfield hasn't yet built the reputation of Jap or Euro brands

DR650/XR650l - More dirt-oriented KLR650 alternatives with a ton of aftermarket. Neither have been significantly updated in years and both are still carbureted.

All this is my opinion and I'd encourage others to add or subtract bikes to refine the list.

>>28821637
Ehh, my bike ain't a scooter. I've been eyeballing some old scooters and mopeds to add to my collection.

>>28821626
'busa

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You don't run the Israeli jewish Cardo app on your phone, now do you anon?

>>28821635
What bike?

>>28821444
>Opinion discarded
bro got so rattled from last thread he tried to find a new word
AND STILL PICKED THE WRONG WORD
LMFOAING @ YOUR LIFE

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>>28821659
New KTM 390 Adventure is a real competitor, 390 is a sorted platform without major issues IMO. Triumph 400 scrambler or its variants. This is the same platform as the KTM, not many issues. I wouldn't buy Ibex 450, but it might be a good bike for the price. 310GS is meh, but not a bad bike at all, maybe less capable offroad, on par with triumphs, imo its tough as nails.

Upcoming bikes, I'd wait for F450GS and Tuareg 457 maybe?

I've taken a fucking scoot offroad, 300cc sporty bike offroad. I've seen meteor 350 off road. Just take the bike you have and have fun, mopeds and scoots are not limiting factors.

>>28821462
>one or two frozen links
Time to replace anon.

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>>28821661
>15hp yeah thats a scooter, picrel is an example, a scooter

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>>28821659
I'd add DRZ400 as well. Its one bike I've not ridden but I really want. I want to put sumo wheels on street, put knobbies while doing offroad. Its so close to perfection.

>>28821659
All really shit bikes.
The minimum standard for a learner is a 600 inline 4, or maybe something like a 675 triple.
The sticky is laughably shit

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If Gear Driven Cams has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Gear Driven Cams, then I am against the world.

>>28821675
/dbt/ is unequivocally opposed to the entire ktm390 range becuase of that 1 leaf

>>28821219
desu the list is aimed at starter bikes, with good resale value
/adventure/ and dirt bikes are a few steps beyond absolute beginner
if only stickyanon was still around to write an intermediate guide

28821683
kill yourself
you ride a 43 horsepower ktm

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>>28821671
1962 first series Izh Jupiter, 350cc 2 stroke parallel twin.
>>28821678
Don't scooters generally have a step through frame and a floorboard?

>>28821694
Nah, thats a scooter.
Would be great for a scooter thread tho

>>28821675
It's a good option, but it's newer and you won't find as many options out there for cheap. I suppose it'd fit in with the caveat that it'll cost more, which is a downside for a learner bike that's likely going to get thrashed around in the dirt while a noob figures out how to not eat shit all the time. I'd personally say it's more of an intermediate bike to go for once you've learned the basics.

>>28821683
>Inline 4 600cc
>Off road
That's real retarded and you probably don't even know why

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>>28821685
>

Thinking about my next bike. I like just riding so considering a croozer like the vulcan s 650. Or something like the sv650 because I hear its a good bike. My riding style is just chilling so cruiser seems appealing.

>>28821659
I will just add that being able to lift a dirt bike matters, and you can't always assume you'll get to lift it in the textbook back squat postion. Sometimes you're on a steep incline. Sometimes there's a damn mesquite tree right where you want to stand so you have to grab a handle bar and a rear rack from the wrong side, and pivot the bike over it's own tires. Sometimes the shit your standing on wants to fall down the hillside and take you with it, while you're trying to deadlift a motorcycle.

My bike is "only" 350lbs, but there have been times where I understand why KTM keeps their serious trail bikes under 300lbs wet.

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finally a good thread

>>28821626
Some kind of dirt bike would be my choice. Or a supermoto.

>>28821700
ADVs like Transalp, Vstrom, GS, AT the same croozing but with heck of a lot more comfort.

>>28821694
Nice bike

>>28821700
>next bike
Those aren't even good as first bikes.
Why not get something that isn't a coward bike?

>>28821701
Yep, that's true. It's why I've got the 300l and KLX300 at the top of the list and would probably make for a good explanation paragraph as to the pros and cons of going for a lighter weight dual sport over a heavier ADV (longer range, more stable on the highway, etc)

Really, if any discipline needs its own sticky section, it's dual sport because the riding style is so much more varied than other kinds of street-legal riding.

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>>28821702
>Finally, i have tricked people i to posting how i want!
>t. Chameleon

>>28821702
>Reddit thread

Oh boy, this thread stinks.
Someone bake a new one

>>28821720
>>28821713
>>28821710
You could try not posting all your bullshit consecutively. This is extremely sub-par trolling.

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>>28821696
By what metric is that a scooter?
>>28821707
Thanks, luv me Izh. First couple of years were really spotty, like I had to pull the engine for one reason or another almost weekly, major breakdowns and catastrophic damage was the norm.
Now I've managed to get it to a state that I'd easily trust it for a cross Europe trip off the bat.
The brakes need work admittedly, they barely hold anymore and getting new shoes for this thing is extremely difficult.
Might need to get them resurfaced.

>>28821720
Agreed.

>>28821726
>Riding an old bike built by communists across a continent
Someone make a note of this man's bravery.

>>28821729
>Reddit post
>In a reddit thread

>>28821729
Maybe they got that one right. Surely the Soviets got something robust enough for the crossing the globe besides the AK?

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>>28821729
I've done a 2000km trip around Finland with the thing the other summer, rear tire is worn out because it's a bitch to get straight and it wasn't, I kinda just threw it there and eyeballed it "yeah It's straight enough."
I trust the thing to make it around the world more than I trust my Moto Guzzi which is supposed to be a "dead reliable bike with a bulletproof engine."

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>>28821734
>Thanks for the gold kind stranger!

>>28821735
>Moto Guzzi which is supposed to be a "dead reliable bike with a bulletproof engine."
Who the fuck has ever called an Italian bike dead reliable?

>>28821735
Based and mildly intimidating. I kneel.

>>28821704
Oh yeah, adv bikes are a thing.

>>28821708
Because I ride for myself and not validation from faggots on the internet. Lamo "real" bike

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>>28821735
>Rolling around Finland on a Soviet bike
Were people cool with that shit there?

>>28821720
This.
Who wants to bake? Not chameleon obviously

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>>28821734
They did and didn't.
With good parts it can be reliable, but they're old bikes built fairly crudely, so breakages are to be expected. On the plus side they're stupid easy to work on, the difficult part is to wrestle the lump of shit engine out from the frame and back in.

>>28821739
Fuck if I know anymore, I've heard people call old 80s Tonti frame big block Guzzis stupid reliable and in theory it should be, it's a 4 valve air cooled V twin with little to go wrong in theory.
It doesn't differ much from say an airhead BMW except for the layout and airheads are fairly trouble free.
>>28821740
Thanks
>>28821748
Soviet cars and bikes have a cult status in Finland. People are able to separate politics from the machines.
Every time I pull over somewhere with my Izh or Ural, some older dude will pull aside with "I used to have one of these/haven't seen one of these in a while".

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>>28821748
>Reddit question

>meet a girl
>we o to have coffee
>we have a fuckton of common nterests including bikes
Lets fuckin go
>>28821739
I know a guy with a 1978 Guzzi 1000SP with 378k km on the clock, and he rode the bike till he was 84.

>>28821760
I know, it's all relative. I hear people swear by Aprilia's Tuareg, but my friend had an RS660 that's frame cracked. Her in the US, in aggregate, Italian brands are not often recommended when someone asks for a reliable bike.

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>>28821760
Yeah exactly, the Cali 3 has the same engine as the SP if memory serves and I've both seen and heard these things reach mega miles with little to no issues, yet mine has been nothing but trouble.
Shame because it's a good looking bike.

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Hi gang! What do you think of my bike? I think 40hp is more than enough for anyone!
Anything bigger is just too fast and scawy!

>>28821769
I hear good things about the reliability on their newer bikes, though I understand that's not really any consolation when you've got a troublemaker on your hands.

I'd definitely get a V7 to add to my collection since I don't have an Italian bike after my Monster 750 shit the bed. I just wish the Sport came in a color other than Primer Gray or Baby Shit Green.

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I'm not asking to bake a new thread or to change stuff, but when a new good thread comes up can we go back to using random anon's pics as thread pics? it's much more fun when it's one of us instead of random grills or pics from google image.
dayton-anon and ur-anon always post really cool pics and it's nice seeing all the cool places people go

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>>28821775
Nice bikes. Looked at the years back but I ended up getting a ninja 400 as my second learner bike. They were lighter, faster and cheaper.

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>>28821793
This is one of my favorite pics that an anon has posted.

>>28821793
Its okay anon, a new thread will be up shortly. This one stinks.

I got a really nice raise and I’m caught between buying myself a new bike for the season, or spending the money on really good gear I never felt I could spring for, and picking up a new bike next year perhaps.

>>28821793
I understand why anon did a quick bake and went for an old pic, but I agree that the OP thread should be something posted by anons. Some of the posters here are actually pretty good photographers and it's even more reason for everyone to post their bikes

>>28821802
>t. Chameleon troon

>>28821798
You stink. Everyone get a load of this stinky boy. Pee-eewwwww what a stinker.

New thread is up.
Abandon thread

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>>28821796
that looks really cool, i should try get some golden hour pics too but i wish there where mountains like picrel near me,i guess i could try make longer day trips to find some intresting terrain
best i can do now is hills so i need to scout a bit to find a good west pointing scenic place (and probably go out with a tripod for once so i can do long exposure stuff)

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>>28821787
I've heard the complete opposite about their new bikes.
Shitty lifters, wiped cams, weak timing components and so on along with a plethora of electric issues.
Then again it's all the same with the old ones it seems, I'm struggling with worn lifter tappets, hoping the cam isn't wiped.
Just yesterday I broke in new lifters and am hoping the piece of shit holds together through the summer because I have to do a 6000+ km trip in July/August.
Yeah my hopes aren't too high for the thing to make it even that far, I've got nothing but disdain towards this bike desu.
I'd much rather take the Izh or even my Ural for that trip even if the Ural wouldn't realistically make it further than 1k before breaking down and the Izh is really uncomfortable after like 100km because the 2 stroke vibrates like crazy and is hard mounted to the frame.

>gixxerbrah status: acked pulling into a gas station
>revzilla guy status: broken freaking neck from a wreck

Anyone wonder why we participate in this retarded hobby? I'm really thinking I might switch to dirt-only.

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>>28821822
>this retarded hobby
For me riding a bike is more than just a hobby. It's a lifestyle.

>>28821822
>I might switch to dirt-only
Might want to look at the incidence of life altering ACL tears in dirt biking. I'm not saying it's more dangerous than the motogp types, but anything over 20mph is just hard on the human body when shit goes sideways.

>>28821822
And what exactly were these two law abiding gentlemen doing?

>>28821833
s q u i d d i n g

>>28821833
Revzilla guy was on a track and gixxerbrah was cruising.

how the fuck does anyone crash on a track? there are no karens to avoid or jeets to run you over. it's just you and your bike.

>>28821796
I was cruisin the other day, clouds had perfect streams of light going through them. Damn I love ridin.

>>28821841
based rider

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>>28821208

>>28821837
Well, hoss, you can take a turn too slow a million times. But you take a turn too fast just once, and that could be the end of you.

>>28821861
Post your plane

>>28821861
Hurt report shows a lot of riders are under the influence when they crash.

>>28821877
It's a conspiracy by big weed

>>28821861
car fatalities would be a lot higher if you had to buy your seat belts, airbags, crumple zones, and rollover protection aftermarket and chose whether or not to install them before each drive.

Finland seems so whimsical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY7sHEqCug8

>>28821918
Oh hey that's the Vaskiluoto power plant in Vaasa, I've been there

>>28821918
You just know he doesn't have to worry about his bike being stolen by a bigger or getting wrecked by some drunk spicy

>>28821918
>The fucking lake
Understated Finnish sense of humor still undeated, I see.

>>28821936
That was my exact thought when I saw him parking.

>>28821936
>bigger or getting wrecked by some drunk spicy
He lives in Vaasa, that place is full of fucking kurds and niggers nowadays. Olympiankatu is their version of MLK Blvd, cops don't go near that place and niggers are rampant there.
The Vaskiluoto/Palifornia area on the other hand is infested with neets and junkies.
He moved towards the powerplant over the sea from the west it seems from the white people island where the upper middleclass live.

>>28821918
Also, the thing that stood out to me the most in this video is how quickly and simply his cold weather gear goes on and off. The shit I have here in the US is so fucking fiddly in comparison.

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>>28821861
Most those fatalities are from riders who never did the MSF endorsement test(s)
Most of those fatalities didn't wear a helmet or any riding gear
Most of those fatalities were under the influence of booze primarily with crystal meth as the secondary. Sometimes some weed but they're a tiny fraction in the grand scheme of things.
Most of those fatalities happen in corners, particularly right turns. This could be a byproduct of going too fast while not having any formal training/protective gear/clear state of mind.

Death by smoking, death by heart failure, suicide by gun is higher, death by diabetes, death by Alzheimers. All of these stats have more # of deaths than motorcycles even on a per captia level they're higher.

Bikes aren't that bad, they just punish mistakes with a heavy hand.

"There is no 1 true right way to ride a motorcycle, but there absolutely is objectively wrong ways to ride them. The consequences of such is death or worse"

>>28821950
Two things can be true at the same time. One, you can buy down risk significantly with proper attention and reasonable speed. Two, everything you and I have posted applies to driving a boring ass sedan, and they're still an order of magnutude safer than a bike.

Every rider makes a concious decision to incur significant risk in exchange for not being a fucking zombie driving around in a climate controlled living room.

>>28821960
>Two things can be true at the same time
True, but it's important to remember that all riders can employ various tactics that loads the dice in their favor.

The risk % will never be 0. The nature of motorcycles are just that way.
However existing and being alive shares this sentiment.
That the risk to exist is never truly 0. Every day is a new dice roll in some way.

Call it cringe but I don't agree with the people that shame milktoast takes like wearing all your gear or only using 90% of your abililty instead of pushing limits at 101% every moment while riding. There's nothing to prove, leave the egos at the doorstep and just make it back in one piece.

>>28821861
>I have to ride 4.7M miles before I die
I like the odds.

>there's still like 5 different /dbt/ threads up at any given point in time
CAN THE JANNIES GET THEIR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER AND CLEAN IT UP?

>>28821947
Basically, white people can't have shit. Groids and browns will follow us to the end of the earth, as long as there are gibs to be had.

Is being a bike guy next stage of being a car kid? I don't think kids say "I'm gonna have a Gixxer when I grow up" cause they usually don't know what a Gixxer is. I guess those who have Gixxers now used to want Veyron, Enzo or another car like this but once they got down to earth, they realized it's impossible to afford.

Honest thoughts on UJMs?

>>28822031
>Universal Japanese Motorcycle
Not as universal as dual sport or lightweight adv bike. Still like them though.

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>>28821659
even though the wr250r was discontinued back in 2020, you can still find loads of 2015-ish models with around 5000 miles for sub $4000 on marketplace. i've got a drz-400 but i was helping my friend find a wr250r a couple months ago, and it is a really nice bike. suspension is nice, lighter than the drz. it revs a lot higher which is fun. i don't know how the wr does with sumo tires but the drz is great for getting pulled over for doing wheelies in a school zone.

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>>28822031
It do bike things, it don't do sovl things. The rider must inject in.

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>>28821861
>Passenger fatalities
>Passenger
Now post statistics for driver fatalities.

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Is this a chick bike?

>>28821950
>>28821960
To be honest, if you adjust the stats the show only the safest riders (no squids, no drunks, no helmetless retards), you also have to adjust the stats to only show the safest car drivers. So the difference probably doesn't change that much. Bikes are like 50x more dangerous than cars.

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>>28822048
the only "chick bike" is some sort of sport bike, and the only "chick" is some sort of asian

>>28822035
To be fair, given highway speeds in the US, most dual sports aren't any more universal than a UJM.

>>28822051
>Bikes are like 50x more dangerous than cars
skill issue

your visibility is far superior on a bike so you can and be aware of everything that's around you which you can't do in a steel cage with pillars and windows.

>>28822051
>Bikes are like 50x more dangerous than cars.
bikes are more nimble than cars so can avoid obstacles better than cars

>>28821815
what the dog doin?

>>28821822
>>gixxerbrah status
did he crash again, or are you just lying for attention?
because his sumocrash was someone cutting him up across 2 lanes

28821837
other people on the track, you indirecting thirdie

>>28821861
remove thirdies from the statistics
then shove it up your ass and cry somewhere else
this is a general for people who like bikes
not for crybaby attention seeking faggots
also, dont forget the amount of mass casualty incidents that happen on all those other forms of transport compared to 1 shitskin running in to a tree at 60

>>28822064
a tank is less nimble than a car but is probably has the lowest risk of death if you're in an accident

>>28822061
get a load of this retard who doesn't understand how to read statistics

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Has anybody else got emails like this? Is this dude trying to upsell me some kind of VIP package? I'm planning to attend anyway I just don't remember having anybody reaching out on behalf of COTA like this guy is claiming. Seems weird.

>>28822066
your tank's top speed is 10 mph

>>28822067
show me the "statistics" that say >>28822051
>Bikes are like 50x more dangerous than cars.

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>>28822070
not true they go 45 mph

>>28822072
does your tank have airbags and seat belts?

>>28822060
As a europoor I have the same the same issue with light dual sports. But I am not a fan of heavy dadbikes, it's almost like driving a cage. That's why something like KLE500 or old school Transalp makes a lot of sense to me, though I've never tried either of those.

>>28822068
>circuitofhteamericasllc
seems legit!

(it's a scam)

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>>28822073
no but it does have composite armor that is resistant to high-explosive anti-tank rounds as well as kinetic energy penetrators

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What's the verdict on this guy?

>>28822081
ok cool. now show me the stats comparing tank deaths to motorcycle and car deaths and i'll bet more people get blown the fuck up in a tank than on a motorcycle.

>>28822085
A solid nerd who takes pride in integrity.

>>28822074
I had to pick up a dr650 on ice yesterday because I thought I was a better rider than I was. 450lbs may be nice at 85mph for hours at a time, but I cannot imagine it on uneven, unsteady ground. When it's time to upgrade, I'll probably just toss a rally fairing and a rear rack on a Husky 701.

Or Honda could bring back the xr650r with an e start and a bigger oil reservoir, but they won't because they're allergic to fun.

>>28822098
I've had some fun on NX650, that one had electronic start. I assume very similar to XR. Pretty easy to pick up but I do lift weights. Would not be comfy on highway for more than an hour due to vibration and wind blasts from trucks throwing me around too easily.

what do you think is the best bike for evading police?
i think probably like a husky 701 / ktm 690. fast enough but you could also cut through parking lots and jump medians and stuff.

>>28822112
That's an expensive bike to get impounded, but I suppose that's the nature of that game.

>>28822112
Man youre not getting anywhere on a 1 cyl lol. Your best bet is fucking around on the highway with a 200hp gallon bike.

>>28822112
It's not the cop cars you gotta worry about.

It's the helicopter.

>>28822108
The big bore KTM engines all have counter balancers for that reason now. And thank God, because the 640 advennture was a fucking paint mixer.

>>28821678
>posting other peoples bikes

post your own

>>28822085
Seems like a nice guy. His fans can be a bit annoying.

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>>28822068
The only people that get VIP treatment like this are big shot that spent a ton of money with them in the past.

But that reminds me I need to buy tickets. I really want to go this year.

>>28822085
He would come off as a try-hard, if he wasn't sincerely that passionate about motorcycles. I like him and wish him well.

>>28822197
The world needs more try hards. One of the side effects of cynicism being cruise control for cool has been an allergy to effort.

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>>28821346
Remember, there are only two people in the universe: You, and the other You.

>>28822210
You gotta understand melon tranny terrorized some of the tru-fags itt for a year straight. Everyone is on edge and they have PTSD from reading the same thread every day, it's gonna take some time for these people to heal.
>>28821346
Stay strong soldier

>>28821208
That woman has the figure of a teenage boy.

>>28822218
>some of the
not some, one of the

>>28822221
shut the fuck up dumbass melon tranner

>>28822224
What do you want out of /dbt/? Do you even like motorcycles?

>>28822228
>What do you want out of /dbt/?
Would be nice to know melon tranny is gone and I never have to read his drivel or accidently reply to him. Yea I like motorcycles lol wtf. Shapeshifting faggot.

>>28822232
Well, what is the problem? What did this person do? Can you put into text exactly what happened?

>>28822236
Bless you for thinking you can engage with mentally ill people.

>>28822236
>Can you put into text exactly what happened?
Nah just lurk more newfag or melon tranny shapeshsifter whatever the fuck you are. See you around.

>>28822236
Don't bother interacting with the schizo, anon. He's just here to be a pain in the ass.

>>28822238
>>28822242
You're right. I know.

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>>28822242
Kill yourself you desperate thirdie faggot. My freaking FLEX POWER lamo. Remember if you ever bake again will personally wreck the thread, see if the jannies will help you

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>>28822245
>Kill yourself you desperate thirdie faggot. My freaking FLEX POWER lamo. Remember if you ever bake again will personally wreck the thread, see if the jannies will help you

>>28822256
That's literally you when I make you fill out the form kek. Now that I'm at it, how the fuck are you on here 24/7, you really have no life do you. Any time I log in, your post is right there, if I post, my post is less than 4 indexes away from yours? How? How is it that you are that attached to this space.

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They're snuggling!

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>>28822260
That's literally you when I make you fill out the form kek. Now that I'm at it, how the fuck are you on here 24/7, you really have no life do you. Any time I log in, your post is right there, if I post, my post is less than 4 indexes away from yours? How? How is it that you are that attached to this space.

>>28822262
You can fit, 5, maybe 6 more bikes in there.

>>28822023
This was the case for me. I wanted a Lambo when I grew up, but I realized even a 3 series might be too much for me. So, I just got a cool bike. Back when I was a kid, Busa will still famous as fuck. People used to name their vehicles Busa.

>>28822031
If its modern enough with disc brakes and ABS, I don't see why not. Modern ones like the Kawi 650 one or the INT 650 are cool bikes.

>>28822266
I agree. I still need at the very least a cruiser and a smaller dual sport.

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>>28822085
Love his work.

>>28822112
Why though? Weaving in and out like a maniac, putting yourself and others in risk? Are you a bigger?

>>28822288
The Live Police Chases Youtube channel must need more content. Granted, the motorcycle chase that was the most memorable on there was one where some dude on a sportbike hit a car in an intersection and then got launched like 50 yards with enough altitude that he tagged the traffic light.

>>28822291
It's clear the way forward is sportsbike with knobbies

>>28822288
just fun to think about, friend. i imagine that being nimble and going places that other vehicles can't is probably the way to do it if you wanted to be a criminal. if you can go really fast then you can just outrun the cops and the chase never even happens, which is a good option. but if you fumble that, i dunno. i think a drawn out chase on a fast bike is probably not good.

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Got a really nice shot this time around but don't think I'll be buying it. Have plenty already haha just happened to passing by
Gonna get back out next weekend too, bought a camera recently so maybe I can try and take some shots myself and learn a thing or two

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You ever see (basically) your bike for sale?

>>28822380
Buy it and give it to your girlfriend to ride so you can be that cute couple with matching bikes.

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Five hundred flex power

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The SV650 looks pretty tempting at this price.
I'm looking for a commuter because my WR250R is a little too dirt bike and I wear through they knobby tyres too quickly.
My Fireblade is getting old and I'm thinking of turning it into a dedicated track bike.

I'm looking for a naked that's light weight and not too expensive, but has decent power. I thought about the Tuono 660 but it's too expensive. The MT07 is another option but this SV650 looks great for the price. Maybe it's a bit long in the tooth?
I'd prefer the non-abs model because it's lighter and makes servicing easier. None of my bikes have ABS so I'm not worried about it.

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>>28822400
She can barely drive. Even if I could afford it. I'm not giving her a 300kg tombstone as a first bike.

>>28822414
Would be cool to have 1/750th of the 'special limited edition' 750's tho.

>>28822414
You could give her a Katana 400 and you can get a Katana 1100.

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Were people excited for new bikes? Only thing I'd be excited for is a true unicorn ADV, 180kg, 20+ litres of fuel with fuel efficient engine, 80+ whores power, lots and lots of low end torque. Good ground clearance and possibly made by Honda/Suzuki or Yamaha.

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>>28822438
She does call me daddy.

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>>28822039
I love my WR. It's so easy to ride off road, very capable because of the light weight.
I do wish it had a little more power for road use, and could go further on the stock tank, but they are my only complaints.

>>28822408
>The SV650
Really dull bike, and soooo slow.

>>28822466
This is what I was worried about, I can't go back to something really slow. Maybe an MT07 would be better?

>>28822483
Mt07 is better, but for that class of bike, honestly just grab an mt-09 or a speed triple bro

>>28822408
https://www.cycleworld.com/2008/07/16/frugal-fuelers-suzuki-sv650-first-look/

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For the anon who asked last thread, I really like my handy lift. I think this one is from the 80s. Bought it from my friend who's been out of motorcycles for about 10 years. The air cylinder seals sometimes leak a little bit and I need to replace them but it hasn't totally failed. I paid him $400 for it and it's been worth every penny. Even if it cost $2k it would be worth it to me, but I'm always working on something on my bikes, so maybe it depends on how much bike work you're doing.

>>28822505
Over 999 flex power

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>>28822508
I have one of those too

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>>28822517
Are you the same one that had a woopsie with the front stand
Fire

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>>28822522
Yes.
She's all better now though.

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>>28822380
Very infrequently.

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>>28822530
Thank goodness, we can't have the rival die in the shop on us now can we!

>>28822112
youre not outrunning the police on anything below a leaderbike
you can outmaneuver them in low stakes situations on anything, even a 125 (see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOF9dPbmbhA)

but youre
1. a faggot
2. homosexual
3. a negro
if you want a bike to specifically "run" from the police

have you considered not being a gay niggerfaggot, and just riding normally?

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>>28822039
I can outride the WR suspension and I'm not fast (or heavy), I'd hate to try the lesser DS's

>>28822408
I got a near new F900R for under 9k in Melbs, you could easily buy a 790 or 890 Duke for the price of that SV650 (they're overrated). Light weight is a meme for roads bikes but if you''re a manlet you might consider a Ducati Scrambler, heaps fun.

>>28822447
Is that a good thing anon?

>>28822590
>youre not outrunning the police on anything below a leaderbike

Wrong, kids are running rings around everyone on them litttle surrons

You never seen a crackhead escape on an overheating 50cc scoot? kek

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>>28822380
Its a mass produced bike made in the last 10 years that sold well, so yes.

>>28822466
Your dick is slow faggot.

>>28822590
600 if you're good, the extra 400cc is just insurance. This is against awd v8 chargers.

>>28822597
Do any of the modern production JP dual sports, barring maybe the crf450l, not need a suspension upgrade out of the box? The only companies I hear with aggressive suspensions stock are KTMs and Betas, maybe Triumphs new 250 and 450. All of those are $10k bikes though.

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Took the bike to work today.
Roads are completely clear and dry which is a plus, but it was around -17c when I checked the thermometer and the snowmobile gloves I have do jack shit against wind.
I get it that handguards/wind breakers are the way to go in the cold, but god damn how is it so difficult to find decent gloves that are somewhat wind resistant?
How come 100 buck winter riding gloves lose to generic 20 buck winter work gloves?

>>28822441
20 liters of fuel is 16kg, meaning your fabled bike is now 166kg wet before you fill up the gas tank. Assuming you yank off every rider aid and creature comfort, you'd still need a big bore single cylinder engine to meet weight. But you said adv, not dual sport, so you want 80+ horsepower, and probable from a twin because no wants wants to rattle their teeth out for 3 hours straight.

See the problem?

>>28822683
based

Have you looked into heated gloves? or them little hand warmer pouches?

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>wake up shoomer
>WAKE UP
AHHHHHHH
NO MORE BIG RIGS
THEY ARE TOO SCARY
ALMOST RUN ME OVER AT CROSS SHIFT
LIKE WEMBO REL
KEEP
YOURSELF
SAFE
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>28822694
If the gloves were battery powered then I could consider them.
Hand warmers don't really work anymore because globohomo killed the gel based warmers.
Also they don't really help against the biggest issue, wind. They might warm up the palm of your hands, but the side you smack women with is cold.

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>>28822708
Almost all are now battery powered, you can get heated jackets also, prices aren't mental either

-17c must be quite chilly god damn

>>28822685
That's why it is a unicorn bike. I don't want a single. Not a race bike ofc, what do Dakar bikes weigh, what is their power and how much fuel do they hold? Not the nu-gen 450s. The old ones.

>>28822717
The fastest bike at Dakar was probably a 900cc KTM, but the guy who rode it died in the process.

>>28822714
I meant separate battery powered specifically, not from the bikes battery because the alternators in Urals are kinda piss poor and weak, barely able to keep the lights on and the coil is battery fired, meaning any extra strain on the battery during winter might compromise the ignition system.

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i just remembered my neighbour had one of these. weirded me tf out.

>>28822717
The legendary desert racers (XR650R, KX500, CRF450X, XRV650, etc) make around 60hp and somewhere around 40-50 lb-ft of torque when race prepped, depending on the individual bike . Dirt surfaces can't physically handle much more than that before you lose traction.

>>28822256
>>28822265
this is all it took to make the schizo shut the fuck up?

>>28822795
Kek.
You toxic tourist you

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>>28822717
>>28822760
BEHOLD: MAKE THE DUCATTI MONO INTO SUPERSHOOM
IT IS THE UNICORN TO BTFO ALL UNICORN
THERE IS ALSO THE BUELL DIRTBIKE
AHHHHHHHHHHH
NO MORE M.E.D.S.
MY BRAIN CANNOT HANDLE ANYMORE TRAUMATIC INJURIES
A NEUROSEURGON IS NOT INCLUDED WITH ANY KAPLAN AMERICAS COAST TO COAST NEW VEGAS TENDIE RUN STARTER PACK TRAUMA KIT
THE TIME MACHINE PILLS ARE NOT WORKING
>wake up shoomer
>WAKE UP
NOOOOOOO
SLEEP NOW
AHHHHH LATER
MAKE THE DUCATI BUILD BROS, PLS, SOMEONE HAS TO OFFROAD KIT EXTREME IT BEFORE SOME PLEBBITOR FIRST PAST THE POST ALL THE BASEBOYS FROM HERE

JACKAL FURRY MAN GUY WHERE ARE YOU???!?
ABANDON TENNY
ACQUIRE BISCOTTI
MEDS
NOW
TAKE THEM BEFORE ITS TOO LATE AND GLOBOHOMO BANS THE UNICORN BIKES
SSBEOY?
NO
UNICORN BAN EOY

AHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>28822838
Guten morgen Shoom senpai.

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>>28822760
>XRV650
I'll take a XRV650, modern, lighter and more power thank you.

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looks like we are finally back to business

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>>28822616
They only made 1500ish of the special limited edition custom exclusives. Even less of the 81 special limited edition custom exclusive with the black comstar wheels and lightweight slotted front rotors.

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Would the world have been a better place if the PMZ-A-750 was to be the primary bike of the Soviets instead of the IMZ M72?
Instead of a boxer twin, we'd have an "American" V twin stuffed into a Zündapp style frame. I think it looks cool as hell.

>>28822915
I think so. Got some art-deco esthetic instead of 'Russia has deutsch fabreeken'

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ctrl f harley, 0/0

HARLEY

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>>28822848
Not necessarily. The 650 singles made just as much horsepower, more torque, and were significantly lighter. Same applies to the Africa Twin 750.

>>28821219
>words words words
stupid meme
2/10

>>28821947
>neets
What is wrong with neets?

>>28822998
They're parasites that should be sent to labor camps.

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>>28822614
nice reading comprehension you retarded nigger

>>28822622
in ameriKKKa most 600s are gonna struggle against the fords, and theres 0 chance youre gapping the GSP chargers, as proved recently by the dancing tiktok faggot

>>28822614
This is a moot point, nobody outruns chopper

>>28823019

>go into underground carpark
>steal another car
>exit carpark
>????
>profit!

>>28823021
I’m sure stealing cars is something you’re intimately familiar with and could do under pressure, jamal. But what do you do if there isn’t a kia in the lot?

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>>28823030
>what do you do if...
>i need to know! halp me!
>please teach me how to evade the law!

i can't believe i share this board with people of colour

>>28823039
>colo*r

of course you had to be euro

>>28823049
for ten bux i can be anyone you want me to be, huney. *wink*

>>28822848
>XRV650
>221kg, 57hp, no mass centralisation, suspension a Brazilian would get excited about
Wow old bikes are so good!

>>28822965
Sure, but go look at the service interval and tank size on a xr650r (bitchin' bike, by the way, so hate on a desert racer) and decide how far you want to push paste comm range on that xr versus an at. Horses for courses.

>>28822441
AJP PR7

>>28822708
i don't ride bike in winter but i do ride snowmachines fast in below -40 weather

the battery gloves i have heat both sides but i hardly use them because i don't have consistent electricity. they have small rechargeable batteries you slip into a pocket on the back of your hand.
consider wool glove liners. i get them at the surplus store. they are thin but you may need to go up a size on your main gloves to not constrict bloodflow. i have a variety of gloves but i just use insulated kinco gloves most of the time because they are free from work and do the job

really you want handguards but you can do just fine without them
also get heated grips if you don't already have them. it is luxurious
you probably know this but also make sure nothing is too tight around your arms or wrists. if you have bad circulation there is nothing you can wear to keep your hands warm