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Communications blackout edition
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What were they thinking?
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When will I get my lunar telescope?
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that image is fake, you can't see any stars
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Would be a shame not to set a record for the furthest blowjob
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Well, that's probably going to be the last comms backout. Artemis 3 is going to LEO, Artemis 4, 5, etc. are all headed to elliptical polar orbits where NASA can stay in continuous contact. If China sends their first lunar crew into an equational rather than polar orbit like has been rumored they'll have >>16949448 for staying in continuous contact. These four people onboard Integrity are the last that are ever going to be able to enjoy the big silence of being cut off from the rest of the human race. From here until the end of eternity it's just going to be Astronauts putting up with stemfoids in mission control yapping about how cool their science jobs are.
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Let's be very honest again, we don't have a commercially available heavy lift vehicle. Falcon 9 Heavy may someday come about. It's on the drawing board right now. SLS is real. You've seen it down at Michoud. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at Stennis... I don't see any hardware for a Falcon 9 Heavy, except that he's going to take three Falcon 9s and put them together and that becomes the Heavy. It's not that easy in rocketry.
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While Artemis was in blackout, this happened.
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>stemfoids
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If you don't sound hyperfixated enough to ruin a first date, you're failing in your job as a science educator. None of these creatures have any spark or passion in their words. They sound like they'd pull off their mic and obediently wander off set if someone paid them the attention of slapping their ass.
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>>[person name] [terrain feature]
>soulless
Thats the moon for you. all the little craters are named after old dead white men (!!!) with the odd based Arab.
so at least its got that going. seriously look at these handsome gents, whose names are etched on the moon forever no matter what China does.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_craters_of_the_Moon_ named_after_them
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oh no!
anyway…
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lmao
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Nothing wrong with vocal fry.
Terminal rising, however, is annoying.
Giving how kids are growing up watching youtube and interacting with eachother less and less -- I loathe to think what the future will hold for intonation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IJLyFAzYes
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The admins. These people are managers. They’re faces. Talking heads.
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Watch JPL videos and you’ll see actual female scientists. They’re homely looking, fat, spergy/nervous on camera, and very obviously know their shit.
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We're not. We're autists with a fixation about spaceflight, and these soundbite tits don't care about it as much as we do. That's frustrating because they're supposed to be ambassadors for the field, but they're only in front of the camera because they're subconsciously exercising the feminine impulse to market themselves as sex objects. I don't care able to vacancy status of these women's vaginas. I want someone who cares more about going to the moon than they do about getting laid to be talking about their passion.
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how come the water on the moon doesn't sublimate?
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>you wake up from a coma
>james rolfe has released an AVGN episode with good ol’ lucious norwood 1 hair
>man is flying around the Moon in Orion launched atop a shuttle-derived rocket
>we are at war with Iran to stop the proliferation of WMDs and to gain oil
Is it 2004?!
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So let me get this straight:
SpaceX IPOs in June at 10 trillion bazillion, only retail buys, zero institutional buyers. Then all current instituonsl SpaceX holders sell en masse, with retail holding the bag, then Starship V3 launches and explodes. Yeah I think I'll buy next year thanks
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>the yellow circle is the moon
they knew, they knew the whole time
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I see. I agree it's a shame we can't get interesting and competent live commentary, but I think that the actual physicsts at NASA have better jobs than to communicate with the outsiders. And they're probably not even good at that, this media thing requires years of training to be able to improvise bullshit and sometimes talk without saying anything of substance.
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meds and back to /pol/
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>SSSSSNNNNIIIFFFFF
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Computer, enhance
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NB from NSF. What if both Starslip Moon and Blue Moon are ready for Artemis 3? Won't happen, but if:
Could be Blue Moon first because hydrogen boils off faster, or it could be HLS first because it's larger and easier to pick up on docking radar and therefore a mildly safer choice for the first rendezvous, or it could be whichever happens to be in an orbit (which the landers will likely pick for their own technical reasons) closer to the orbit SLS leaves Orion in, or... well, you get the idea.
This is how, for example, it was decided that Neil would get out before Buzz; the direction the door opened made it easier for Neil to get out first. Pure operational practicality.
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you know kino is coming our way when they start hugging from the pictures
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looks like wrestling to me. we need more fights in space. pregnant space boxing.
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What the fuck even is the point of this “new” Artemis III HLS checkout in low earth orbit? SpaceX and/or Blue O are going to send up some sort of fuckass barebones lander that won’t even be close to the final form that needs to demo land, and the demo landers themselves won’t even be final human-rated lunar landers
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>you think we'll make the front page of r/all?
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earthdown pic tho
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https://x.com/Dillonshrop06/status/2041190562510889356
>SpaceX Starlink 17-35 will launch from Vandenberg, CA set for 02:50 UTC | 7:50 p.m. PDT and will create a high visible launch in the sky. You won't want to miss this one if you are located within the purple shaded area!
Heads up west coast
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what is he thinking right now?
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some dude wit ha cool 'stache
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>>16949883
Grok? Got anything?
You bet! It took roughly a decade to human-rate the SpaceX Dragon, with development starting around 2010 and culminating in NASA’s official certification for crewed missions by November 2020. The first crewed test flight, Demo-2, launched on May 30, 2020, following years of rigorous design, testing, and regulatory review.
So, we're fugged. It's the drugs man. But we're getting clean.
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Yes seriously, and he was a go-getter. Sharp as a fucking tack. It was simply old age that took his earthly body. His mind was still functioning on all cylinders. He was so coherent and well-spoken and sounded so young and smart and witty and “with it” up until the end.
I’m crying bros… I love that generation of men
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dumb website there's a big hole missing from the sky
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Okay /sfg/, what will be the future of space be like for humanity?
1:) Govements invent ships that can travel to their own planets, ie each country (mostly major ones) get their own nation to colonize.
2:) United Nations unite Earth (without-Satanic schizos) and begin to colonize other planets, similar to UNSC
3:) Lolbert style where there are governments that actually colonize planets but people are willing to explore on their own in space as either solo travelers or pirates
4:) Flying farms or stations
5:) SpaceX Era/Privatization
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>>16949902
I still can't believe he forced Trump to listen to the story about the one time he fucked some fat chick. What a real nigga.
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>>16949927
It’s called being at a loss for words from the beauty of God’s creation
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>this only happens once the men come in the room for shift change
absolutely incredible
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nikonbros...
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>>16949968
Victor said it was bright. Was he lying?
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McGregor Mystery Structure:
Lunar surface analog for Moon ship testing
Trash dump
Some creepy sex thing
Take your guess.
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>forward link LOS
>they forgot to adjust the white balance
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Oxcart
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Elon Breaking Bad style cooking lab.
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>>16949991
God made it so fuckin amateurs can’t take photos of cool things. F to my fellow earthshine fans.
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>>16950002
Soundstage to fake it again.
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>>16949998
Sounds good on some people. (Ignore the religious bullshit. Only talking about the accent.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHxs3gdtV8A
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Aliens are firing their anti-orbital weaponry. Luckily for our gang, they’re not orbiting. Nice try, alien scum.
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>The Sun
Who?
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>beautiful moon eclipse
>we can't see any of it
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They're constantly taking photos with their 24 or so cameras, they just haven't uploaded most of them since the upload rate is trash. The few pics we've seen were from the Nikon D5 but they also have a Z9 which should have the best pics. According to the IDs in the image archive we should have thousands of photos to go through.
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apollo being in LLO probably limited the area they were likely to see impacts.
Orion being further out with a larger field of view, especially in a really darkened/eclipsed regime, has made the probability pretty high.
WE SHOULD HAVE GONE BACK TO THE MOON WAY EARLIER, THIS IS KINO
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I bet this will add to the discussion on overhead protection and EVA contingencies. The chances are obviously very small, even if impacts are like 500-1000% more than you originally expected. But that’s still a risk and these observations probably increase the desire for added protection and risk avoidance especially w/ longer duration stays
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>>16950043
So there is something wrong with vocal fry: women use it. All women with vocal fry in astronaut training should be taught to speak properly. They're supposed to inspire, not send autistic anons into fits of rage.
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Eric Berger@SciGuySpace
This is one of the greatest astronaut crews of all time. Hard to compare to historical greats like Gemini 8, Apollo 13, Soyuz T-13, or STS-31. But certainly Wiseman, Glover, Koch, and Hansen are setting a freaking high bar for the Artemis era.
Apr 7, 2026 · 12:44 AM UTC
Eric has a Crewfu.
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>>16950006
>some rock could randomly hit those astronauts at any moment without warning
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The description is enough for me to already get excited. Like reading a captain’s log with an observation to st. elmo’s fire or ball lightning.
Hopefully there are HD cameras on board that can dump high quality footage with a downlink later or something though.
For now, all we have are these audio reports though I think
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gene was right
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Solar energy certainly will not come without issues on the moon. They will get pelted more than previously anticipated, would they not?
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Video is trash but comms have been kino, it's like I'm really a boomer experiencing Apollo anew.
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>my boomer parents have been hooked onto the livestream all day
>all my normie zoomer friends have been liking instagram reels of this mission from launch to the speeches to photos of the moon
There is hope after all. Jared needs to do an all-hands-on-deck for public relations before future Artemis Missions and public awareness
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rise and shine
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Photos from today's Artemis II lunar flyby VR watch party! Stay tuned for news about the Artemis II reentry and splashdown event!
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SpaceX engine failure a couple of hours ago.
Muskbros...
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https://x.com/Dillonshrop06/status/2041249031855255705
>As soon as tomorrow, April 7th at 1130 UTC [7:30 AM EST, 4:30 AM PST], we can expect a launch of a Northrop Minotaur IV launch vehicle from SLC-8 at Vandenberg, CA. The launch will follow a South-East trajectory.
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(c)rud!
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>bump limit reached
stand by. making the new thread
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>VICTOR, WHAT DO YOU SEE?
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QUICK PUT ON YOUR GLASSES ANON
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Very pretty
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>gigantic purple explosion
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Hey simps, here's your cope:
Alejandro Alcantarilla Romera
SpaceX also has another two stands, each one with two test bays. This means losing a test stand for a period of time doesn't completely make the test program stop completely!
That's the spirit!
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inb4 a VIP stemfoid
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The first Lunar Spitroast?
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the VIP:
https://execwomeningov.org/team_mf/elaine-ho/
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2041328344499888579
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just post the thing
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does this mix in Artemis I?
they were not that close to the near side (second shot)
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>washing
no no there will be none of that
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https://terafab.ai/
page updated with more stuff now
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>>16950101
Next sfg op image.
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>>16950190
my drunk ass 6am shitposting
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I'm so blackpilled on Musk. Maybe he really was a retard all along.
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He married and divorced the same woman twice. Also, Artemis went to the moon before Starliner.What more do you need to know?
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Starship*
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The VIP is Trump
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QUIET BLUMPF IS TALKING
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he's just saying what we're all thinking
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It was only 2 years ago that this general was a unanimous bastion of Musk support. He's really fucked if even /sfg/ doesn't like him. His only supporters these days are jeets because of how his grok lets them open bobs and vagene of random western women.
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TWO PLANETS?
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What's he thinking?
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Musk always gets shit done, the problem is that he works on elontime not real world time
But the stuff made under his leadership is always a marvel once it's ready (like my self-driving tesla, love that thing)
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>i spoke to wayne gretzky about you
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>you deserve to give me your autograph
Fucking kek. I love that man.
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>csa event
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Because Orion can land on the Moon… on an LEO mission?
Literally wtf are you talking about. Just being a Dragon up and do an HLS Starship / Blue Moon checkout in orbit and call it a day. It’s a filler mission anyways
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>hasn't done anything cool since Falcon Heavy demo
HUH?!?
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Time will tell but yeah he’s pretty goated so far. It helps that he started his term with this launch plopped in his lap, and an untenable already in-place Artemis schedule that he is free to change up. But he’s doing what needs to be done to change the trajectory of everything for the better.
God I pray, literally, that the next president is advised to just keep jared there aside from any politics. The last thing we need is another do-nothing Bolden. Or worse, a pernicious snake who reverts all the Isaacman changes and “goes back to VAB” to re-re-work Artemis back into a jobs program with minimal boots or bases or future mars landings
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>they had a backup foid and a backup negro
just in case someone got sick and they had to go back on their "first womyn and african american" promise.
also imagine how it feels to be those guys right now. They might fly on one of the next missions though, so there is that
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I was really fucking demoralized when Trump canned his nomination because of musk derangement syndrome
I'm glad he finally made it in, but man what a waste of a year (especially considering the next president will almost certainly purge him just for being a trump appointee)
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yeah, 100x worse desu. I remember when he said as soon as Falcon Heavy was flown it would be doing as many missions to mars as possible every transfer window. Whatever happened with that? It's blatant that this guy has just been on a generational run scamming space nerds unfortunately. Starship is never going to Mars and that much is as obvious as the sky being blue.
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how the turns have tabled
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Do you know if personally she also pronounces it the German way? I think using cook is quite smart to avoid the cock I'm just wondering if by now the family just does that by default or if privately they still do the other way, assuming they ever pronounced it like that.
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Re:The Artemis Lunar meteor impacts.
The AMS is reporting a significant increase in meteors so far this year. Note the series of large fire balls over the last months. About 10x the normal flux. Not associated with any known meteor shower stream.
Those Artemis science observations turned out to be important.
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He's done a lot of saying, now he needs to do a lot of doing.
The direction is right, there's a plan there, even SLS suddenly looks a little less bad. But now he needs to show he can actually pull through and make it happen. CLD shows it's not all gold, but that program's issue is mostly just far too little money. The new budget request is a much bigger issue, he needs to really hit Congress from both sides behind the scenes to make sure they bail him out. I think he sucks Trump's cock a bit too much publicly, not good for his chances under a different administration, maybe he's already made peace with that but to see any proper results of his plans he could really use at least another four years. And of course we all expect Congress to not let the budget be raped but people need to feel he's batting for them or he'll lose the support of the workforce. I assume a lot of people like what he's trying to do so he gets a bonus there but if he lets the non-Artemis parts slip morale will tank and he won't get anything done no matter how much money he gets for human spaceflight and how realistic his ideas sound.
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Our radiant analysis shows the increase is concentrated around the Anthelion source — the region of sky directly opposite the Sun. These are asteroidal objects on orbits similar to Earth’s, moving in the same direction we are. When they encounter Earth, our orbital velocity is effectively subtracted from theirs, so they enter the atmosphere at relatively low speeds. Slower entry means the meteor lasts longer in the sky, is visible over a wider area, produces sonic booms more often, and more material survives to reach the ground as meteorites. That’s exactly what we’ve been seeing — including two rare HED achondrite falls (Germany and Ohio) in just nine days.
Not saying it's aliens, but you never know
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They know
ASTRONAUTS JUST SAW METEOROIDS HIT THE MOON: The crew of Artemis II were giddy (their words!) on the evening of April 6th when, during a solar eclipse on the farside of the Moon, they witnessed explosions on the lunar surface. Meteoroids were hitting the Moon. "We saw at least five," reported mission commander Reid Wiseman.
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3I/ATLAS' ayyy pods.
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>>16950405
>what happened to that anon making his own little rocket engine?
lol, I think i remember that guy, I believe he was posting here like what, 4 or 5 years ago? last I heard he needed some microwave oven and then he 'disappeared'
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Humanity needs to crack the biggest hurdle of engineering that keeps tormenting us for hundreds of years. Toilet engineering.
Fusion can take the number 2 in the priority list, better toilets is a must.
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Fairly certain picrel is a fresh upload to the media database
Kino uploading in progress hopefully
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasa2explore/
it was uploaded earlier today
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>>16950431
>Fusion can take the number 2 in the priority list, better toilets is a must.
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/sfg/ I just realized something
tell NASA they need to forensically process the shit bags as medical samples
the toilet breaking means their feces aren't mixed together, and the documentation of their rations intake provides invaluable information about the effect of zero gravity on their digestion of these space foods
you could do a followup study once they're back on earth with the same food as a control, while they're going through PPO decontamination protocols
their turds are probably just as scientifically valuable to the future of manned spaceflight as the photos they're taking are, because it effects astronaut health and long term viability with a mind to maximizing nutrition
truly a historic moment for all mankind, as soon as the dookie falls to earth and analysis may commence
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The technology didn't exist back then to get fresh samples cultured.
I want entire racks filled with petri dishes ready to go, in a sealed and sterilized environment to prevent cross contamination.
Handle with care.
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The astronauts would have had to submit stool samples as part of their preflight checkup.
It is vital that these records remain accessible to the PPO for research purposes, and that they are compared to followups and in flight logs.
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Could you imagine a chud stowed away in the toilet before launch? That would have been the funniest shit in the world.
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He isn’t but most normalnigs like to pretend he is because that’s an easier reality to work around. the fact is that he’s a savant who can get extremely good at the things he puts his focus on, gets easily distracted by petty shit, has a big ego and a saviour complex. that’s too multilayered a characterisation for most people, they prefer a simplified reality.(even if it’s fake)
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They haven’t, SLS is still a sunk cost fallacy and by it’s very design fails at meeting any of the goals set by artemis (large amounts of cargo to the moon, frequent crew transfer to actually facilitate the goal of permanent lunar habitation)
Starship is taking longer because it is and actually revolutionary vehicle treading ground nobody else has before. When it is finished it will open up many oppertunities rather than just being a dinosaur frankenstein rocket that was only greenlit by congress because it would maximize pork.
>uuuurgh come on bro just go along with my meme logic please, artemis just launched crew for the first time lighten up
I am autistic, so no.
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>>16950543
Starship is taking longer because it is and actually revolutionary vehicle treading ground nobody else has before!
Stardrip also doesn't work. Continues to explode, and will never hit the benchmarks essential to make the business case close.
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Question to all of /SFG/:
How many of you are pregnancy fetishists?
If you don’t get a boner merely thinking about impregnating women and giving them big bulging baby bumps, you are not colony material.
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>>16950560
How have the prototypes that have continually hit more and more of the intended milestones failed! Has it! Answer me!
Yes. Starship has a demonstrated 50% failure rate. Hasn't achieved orbit. Hasn't demonstrated refuelling. Hasn't achieved any of the manufacturing metrics. Hasn't achieved any of the service cycle metrics.
This dog was to be cheap to build, have 100+ ton payload and refuel and relaunch on a hot pad. If you want to keep believing Elon's lies, we can't stop you. Enjoy your free trip to Saturn.
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oh yes my love
keep talking nerdy to me
tell me about your rocketsss
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>>16949816
Most accurate post on /sfg/ in ages! This encapsulates the whole issue.
The only woman who is even biologically capable of engaging in the passions of the autistic male is an autistic female. And even still, autistic females are annoying selfish bitches because while autistic men get tortured by normies from a young age, autistic women get babied and pampered by everybody so generally behave like children. Neurotypical females meanwhile are practically a differentspecies from us. They are literally incapable of being interested in something that does not involve themselves or other people. Females have told me many times that they are not interested in the grand majesty of space because there are no people there, it's that simple, it may as well literally not exist in their minds because they are incapable of perception beyond human relations, much like how color is not a concept appreciated by the mind of a naturally blind animal.
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There will be people there when we make it so. If the female mind dominated in our evolutionary history then we would still be a niche bipedal hunter with a population similar in range and size to that of gorillas.
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>>16950534
He has savant qualities but clearly hes more deranged than he was before. The ketamine he takes to in his words 'cure his autism' removes his savant capabilties and leaves him with nothing but the deranged personailty comorbid with the autism. Musk touching ketamine has been a disaster for the human race.
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Long March 8A launch, T-58:00
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The concept of a working Starship touching down on the lunar surface, with humans in it, and lowering them down off of a giant caged garage elevator, all before 2028 is out… no way man. That just seems preposterous right now, at least the way things are dragging along
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>will never hit the benchmarks essential to make the business case close
Proofs? It has certainly exploded a lot up until this point, but it is entirely possible that it will stop exploding at some point in the future.
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And sorry everybody but the White House wanted to post them first, on twitter and instagram—and they didn’t even bother uploading them in 4k.
Once they’re on flickr or the image archive we can pull the higher resolution ones
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Unbridled KINO
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>>16950629
Why isn't there a single unified photostream. Jared get your shit in order.
https://www.nasa.gov/artemis-ii-media-resources/
You might think Artemis II Mission Images contains all you need. Wrong. It's only prelaunch stuff. Additionally the only way to fast forward the pages is to change the URL, with the buttons you can only go page by page. What a joke.
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"Mmmmm -- Artemis donut.
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Benis :D
btw full-res pics are now up on the image archive
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Maybe this
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasa2explore/
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>>16950698
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>>16950732
Neither does Intel. They're two or three nodes behind the curve. And last I heard, they were pivoting to selling the fabs, but because they took Biden Bucks it gets tangled.
Regardless, two shite companies working together.
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so Intel does have foundry knowledge yes?
this reflexive "NO" but then refuting that in your actual post is self-defeating and makes you look like a retard
yes, Intel is behind TSMC and Samsung, but that wasn't the topic of discussion here
Tesla has contracted both TSMC and Samsung for chips as well and apparently Musk even has an office within the Samsung fab in Texas
https://x.com/jukan05/status/1999248306283905166
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actually, it might be lunar dust getting kicked up by static charging from the sun.
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>>16949883
so according to you, when did HLS development start? remember the BO lawsuit that paused all HLS related development was dismissed on November 4, 2021
we are still pretty far away from that + 10 years so not sure what kind of math you are using here
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>>16950751
oh its you again
still not sure if you are trolling or actually retarded
if you actually wanted to criticize SpaceX, then you should use things that are actually factual, otherwise you just make yourself look retarded and SpaceX in turn better
the shit you post is the low info "Musk bad" shit that gets posted on r/enoughmuskspam
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>>16950756
yes, i've seen an eclipse before, and i also know that the aforementioned phenomenon that i described is a feature that becomes very visible during an eclipse, anon.
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>>16950768
Doesnt appear in the original footage. I cant even call these people schizos, they're more like bumbling mouthbreathers. they're even more hopeless against aislop. everything real is fake, everything fake is real. it's like a reflex
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>>16950746
>Identifying Moon
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>>16950333
they didn't get where they are by wasting money on launching random shit
the Falcon Heavy maiden launch would have sent some inert payload if it wasn't the roadster, so it wasn't really that big of an extra cost
SpaceX sent a wheel of cheese on Dragons first test launch
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>>16950369
politics is what killed red dragon
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26270977
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>stress testing
Send me to space. This'll be my wakeup theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg8Jahz6RM4
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>>16950816
it's absolutely criminal that Solstice by Brian Bennett was not one of the wakeup songs
https://youtu.be/Ao5uiWUzMx4 this shit is so kino.
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>>16950820
Old funk has grown on me in my middle age.
But have you considered this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiagdew_ngY
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>>16950823
warukunai desu, i like it.
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>>16950824
Well humans probably won’t be riding into orbit on Starship, or back down to earth and tower-catching, for a long long time. At least not until Starship can pump out dozens and dozens of successes with starlink launches and prove itself safe. So until then, you’ll need Dragon or some other capsule to safely go up and down the gravity well.
Dragon can take crew to LEO, but will have to loiter there as it doesn’t have life support to go out to the Moon [I don’t think] and certainly doesn’t have the heat shield to survive earth reentry back from the Moon. This means HLS will need a way to get from the lunar south pole with humans and launch all the way back to Earth for aero breaking and then rendezvous with your dragon again.
Either that, or every time you want to go to the Moon you’ll just need Orion which is $1 bil a pop alone
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>did andy weir contain himself
not entirely, but the friendship between rock and man is what forms the heart of the movie, not the basedence, i teared up like a little bitch on some parts, fucking rock spider.
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>>16950856
The funniest part is when, like literally right after saying they are both “serious” about getting their HLS landers finished on time, Berger asks what there timelines are looking like and she’s like
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>>16950869
notable that spacex has not reduced the cost of a launch to any substantial degree, despite reusing rockets for a decade. the growth in space startups is due to investor fear of missing out on 'the next spacex' rather than a drastic launch cost reduction fundamentally changing the economics. Space is still economically unviable for the vast majorety of potential things, and the fabled tenfold launch cost reduction Musk promised 2 decades ago never came. The primary advantage with stage recovery is rapid cadence becuase you are no longer constrained by the rate you can manufacture the rocket. Though this issue could be solved by just making a big automotive style rocket factory rather than recovering stages.
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So it’s just a tanker / depot problem. Unfortunately there isn’t carbon (thus no ISRU methane) at the moon. You could send tankers TO the moon, I suppose.
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>>16950896
No. Their prices have stayed the same and if anything steadily gone up with time. You won't be able to find evidence of this magical price decrease you religiously beleive in because it didnt happen. Ticket price for a full launch is still ~60 or more million like it was back in 2014.
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Delusional. You’d have an easier time trying in vain to process tons and tons of raw surface sand from around fresh impacts, hoping and praying they were carbonaceous rocky impactors, and that you could yield any usable amount after months of trying versus finding any sort of significant virgin deposit somewhere on the moon (spoiler alert, this doesn’t exist)
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and what were the prices before SpaceX started launching?
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>>16950903
>their prices have stayed the same
wrong, they have gone down over time rideshare prices have dropped significantly in price multiple times, but more importantly, your claim was that spacex has not lowered launch costs period, compared to conventional rocketry, you're full of shit.
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>and what were the prices before SpaceX started launching?
Shut the fuck up retard. Literally COMPLETELY irrelivant to what we were talking about.
To refresh your nigger brain, we were tlaking about reuse and if that changes the intenral cost substantially. Not about what the launch market was like before SpaceX.
Anyway. You and I both know that Space Shuttle warped the American launch market. It was actually pretty cheap to get your payload on the shuttle because it was subsidized by the tax payer, SpaceX flew dragon sensor equipment on Shuttle twice in the early days. The remainder of the launch market which wasnt artifically eaten by Shuttle was high energy shit out at GEO. That made all those rockets naturally more expensive. There was a brief flahs in the 90s where LEO rockets were being made but that all fell apart with the dot com crash before they could even get flights in.
Russian rockets are still cheaper than SpaceX and the only reason they lose out to SpaceX is because nobody wants to trust the snow nigger regime of russia or the drunk engineers at POCCOCKMOC.
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Oh here we go with this crap. Rideshare obviously doesnt count idiot. It's a ride SHARE. I'm talking about the cost of a single launch. Jesus christ. Soyuz to ISS still cheaper person for person than Dragon to ISS btw.
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>literally completely irrelevant to what we were talking about
it was directly relevant, spacex has lowered launch costs, and will continue to do so, end of story.
>and if that changes the internal cost substantially
it does, the internal cost for spacex is actually much lower than 60 million, partially because they have become more efficient at re-use, and partially because re-use lets you launch more often which spreads fixed costs over more launches.
>it was actually pretty cheap to get your payload on the shuttle
KEK
>because it was subsidized
KEK
right, so it wasn't cheap, whereas spacex is because it is just cheap, and isn't getting subsidized.
>russian rockets are still cheaper than spacex
internally? sure, but then again it helps when that country is on a fast-track towards third world status and most of their non-specialist engineers make less monthly salary than a schoolbus driver in the US.
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>it was directly relevant, spacex has lowered launch costs, and will continue to do so, end of story.
Are these lower costs in the room with us right now? Still havent provided any evidence.
> the internal cost for spacex is actually much lower than 60 million
Ok? And the topic was the cost for customers not SpaceX. You don't know the internal cost and we won't until they go public.
>right, so it wasn't cheap
no, it was reasonabily cheap, for the customer. The customer is who we are talking about here. They are the ones doing the economic activity in Space.
>it helps when that country is on a fast-track towards third world status
Splitting hairs? If USA has a reusable 747 and Russia has an equivalent jet that they have to build from scratch each flight, would it really be cheaper for Russia?
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>if i ignore the evidence, it doesn't exist
not my problem
>ok? and the topic was the cost for customers
oh really?
>we were tlaking about reuse and if that changes the intenral cost substantially
i'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not being disingenuous here and are instead just actually retarded.
>no, it was reasonably cheap if we pretend that subsidizing launch costs using the federal budget makes the actual launch cheaper
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ShitLabs hires glup shitto from dookieAI to advance volumetric double-binary quantum AI processing of cloud computational processes for increased chip manufacturing Q3 scaled outlook and shareholder value increases
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the internal cost for spacex is actually much lower than 60 million! It just is okay.!
Since you have access to the SpaceX internal cost numbers, may we see them? You have them right? You wouldn't just be posting your empty hopes again.
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look I'm a spacex fanboy but there's simply no point in arguing about pricing and capabilities when starship isn't even ready yet, "better on paper" means nothing
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No I'm not loser. are you schizophrenic? This entire time I have been arguing about cost to the consumer because that isall that matters. It's you who jumps off the walls with the headcanon about SpaceX actually having an internal cost of 15 cents plus tip per launch and how awesome SpaceX is. I don't give a shit. Fact is that the cost to the end consumer is still around 60 million, in fact higher since covid.
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That’s not the fucking argument going on right now. I swear, can any of you read??
The point is if reusability of F9 has significantly driven down prices. And it has, despite what Tory Bruno and ULA and the dumb contrarian niggers in this thread want to think
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it is, have you never listened to cabinet meetings or some announcements of something with the camera going around to different people
every comment starts with like 15s of thanking Trump before starting to talk about the actual issue
for instance on the video below from "ratepayer protection pledge" (i.e. making data center builders pay for increased energy costs) a month or so ago you can see Gwynne Shotwell start by thanking and praising Trump (the others around the table do the same)
its timestamped
https://www.youtube.com/live/HS5HKMuNdxE?si=FZ-MJXjtznD1D0kr&t=2715
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they can make more by launching their own payloads!
How does that work? Because building and launching thousands of sats with a severely limited lifetimes to serve a few million customers in a competitive regulated market doesn't seem like a good business plan.
NB4 you post a tweet from some stock pimp "proving" SpaceX is an actual multi trillion dollar business and tots not a bubbler.
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>>16950634
If you've never seen a total solar eclipse you probably shouldn't because looking at other things after that is less worth it. These astronauts are doomed now. There's nothing left for them to accomplish.
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Fellow Elonomites, we're in trouble:
Some skeptical commentary on the @SpaceX IPO from @hackernews user "johnbarron":
The $16B is not profit its revenue, and I strongly suggest to learn the difference before investing. The $8B figure is EBITDA, also known as, earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, AND amortization.
For a company running around 9500 LEO satellites with a less than 5 year lifespan, depreciation is the business.
Their FCC filings show that about 500 satellites deorbited just in the first of half of 2025 alone, and they were all under 5 years old. The estimates for constellation sustenance are currently at $5-8B per year in satellite manufacturing (about $500K each) and launch costs are about $3M each. That is the real capex that EBITDA hides. Net income has never been disclosed and probably for good reason...
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Augh!
Also the revenue is largely circular... Over 70% of Falcon 9 launches in 2025 were internal Starlink missions so SpaceX is its own biggest customer. Starlink is 70% of total revenue. The so called "launch business" and "internet business" are the same capital cycle booked as two revenue lines ;-)
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Buh....
Replace legacy ISPs? Really? Starlink has 0.2% residential market share after 5 years, with declining ARPU ($85 avg vs $120 US) and congestion already emerging at 10M subs. It is a niche rural/maritime ISP, not an AT&T killer.
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they're excited
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No no no. Make it stop!
Starship is very very far from routine... 11 flights, 5 failures. But notice on thing...In 2025 alone on Flight 7 the upper stage exploded from harmonic vibrations. Then Flight 8 exploded from propellant mixing. Flight 9 was destroyed on reentry...Ship 36 exploded on test stand ...the first V3 booster exploded during pressure testing and was scrapped.
See a pattern here? Each failure from a different root cause. So multiple unsolved failure modes, not iteration. It has never reached orbit, never caught a ship, never demonstrated orbital refueling
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>>16951044
SpaceX's own numbers for satellite manufacturing cost is $250,000. Each launch is approximately $18 million for first stage refurbishment, new stage build, integration, and launch operations costs. With 29 satellites per launch, that's approximately $871,000 per satellite. Not $3.5 million.
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If we assume each satellite only lasted 3 years, the cost of 500 satellites needs the revenues from maybe 300,000 subscribers to cover their deployment costs and their replacement costs. About 20% of their subscribers.
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Grok, is the little lady right?
Oh fug no! The manufacturing cost of early-generation Starlink satellites was estimated to be around $250,000 to $500,000 per unit. However, newer, heavier versions with laser links (V2 mini) are likely more expensive, with some estimates closer to $1 million each. The $250k figure was mentioned by a glassy eyed Elon Musk as a potential target, it likely refers to the marginal cost of earlier, smaller models. And Elon was snorting Ketamine at the time.
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They’re also way too kindergarten-teacher reinforcing on the mic. Every time reid or jeremy or whoever says something they go
>Wow. WOW! That is GREAT feedback. Just, so good! Good job guys!
Like just fucking say “copy” and keep quiet
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And on the valuation? NVIDIA for example, who has an almost actual monopoly on AI chips, with $216B revenue, and $120B net income, at 56% margins, trades at 20x revenue. Tesla…. already considered absurdly overvalued at P/E 355, trades at 15x. Amazon at 3x. Meta at 10x. SpaceX wants 110x !! times revenue, with no audited financials, unknown net income, and a freshly absorbed money losing AI company. Even on bullish 2026 projected revenue of $24B, it's 73x so nearly 4x NVIDIA multiple, and NVIDIA actually prints profit...
Yeah but -- Elon is my real Dad! So that's not true!
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I love the the beauty of our world
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>you can just do things
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Artemis astronauts at the outer edge of human space travel had an emotional moment Monday as they proposed to name a crater in honor of the deceased wife of mission commander Reid Wiseman.
"It's a bright spot on the moon. And we would like to call it Carroll," Canadian astronaut Jeremy Hansen told a live broadcast. The crater can be seen "at certain times of the moon's transit around Earth," he said.
As Wiseman and others wiped away tears, the four astronauts pulled together in a silent, floating embrace.
I'm not crying you are.
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SpaceX isobviously burning capital and has beendoing so fir its entir ehistory.. Even if they spent no money on Starship they would still be burning capital.
ULA was a break even business at best, and they barely ever develop anything whilst charging an arm and a leg for launch. SpaceX isnt magic so its obvious that they are not magically beating ULA.
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>SpaceX isnt magic so its obvious that they are not magically beating ULA.
SpaceX isn't buying expensive engines at huge markup from suppliers and then building a new first stage for every launch. They aren't using unique tooling that's different between each stage, they aren't making multiple versions of hardware that nominally does the same thing, and they aren't content with buying the most expensive thing they can justify because it nets them a higher profit on cost-plus contracts. SpaceX isn't magic, it isn't run by MBAs who figured out how to min-max a business plan that is wholly dependent on government contracts to survive.
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what is the nasa-approved razor?
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Market forces push all launch prices to be about the same (given same orbit, payload size, and reliability)
There's no market reason for SpaceX to sell their F9 launches at-cost when they could be making profit
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https://x.com/SERobinsonJr/status/2041572179884573009
SpaceX prospectus coming in late May, so no need to whine about analyst estimates at that point
the prospectus will contain audited financial information among other things
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https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/spacex-lays-out-ipo-details-t argets-early-june-roadshow-sources- say-2026-04-07/
>On June 11, SpaceX plans to host 1,500 retail investors at what the people described as a major investor event. In addition to the U.S., everyday retail investors in the UK, EU, Australia, Canada, Japan and Korea would have the opportunity to participate in the offering, the people added.
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This IPO... the valuation is intensifying to the point where we may not be able to contain it.
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>>16951148
literally me
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>>16951149
Isar Spectrum in two days
maybe maiden launches of private Indian rocket Vikram and Korean military rocket GYUB, though I wouldn't bet on them
maybe H3 return to flight after the last one's front fell off
Falcon Heavy launching ViaSat at the end of the month if schedules hold
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>>16951152
no, we do, you're just angry that spacex isn't selling it's launches without a profit margin, something it's legally obligated to not do btw, it would be considered "anticompetitive" for spacex to bully everyone else even harder by dropping their price by another 20 million.
internal costs are like 18 million per launch, that this upsets you is not relevant to the conversation.
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3M peltors are space approved? someone tell /k/
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is he /ourjew/?
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>can we talk about political shit?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_antennas_in_NASA%27s_Deep_Space_ Network#Jared_Isaacman_Ears_(JIE)
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>>16951239
its 50/50
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yeah, it relays it direct to the adoring public
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Remember the TNG episode when Geordi falls in love with the holodeck computer stemfoid starship engineer, then later the real scientist beams aboard the ship and not only is it revealed that unlike the computer program she is actually a giant cunt bitch IRL, but she also finds Geordi's embarrassing program
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Grok?
No. Two "success" meaning didn't explode in a turtle killing fire ball just means they're back to two or three years behind. HLS was already supposed to have done test landings by now, which would require refueling and all those launches.
Now, Starship is the gate.
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>4 threads up
we are so back
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I hope people don't overdo these jokes and he gets tired of them, I've been enjoying them.
>>16951232
Isaacman is Goldstone, Rubio is Madrid, who's Canberra?
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>believing any of this
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it's actually Constellis now
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>Houston, this is terran empire ship Torpidity
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if you're autistic enough you can make one
https://grabcad.com/library/1-72-scale-3d-printable-orion-crew-module- and-european-service-module-decorat ion-1
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Dark Forest is kind of a load of horse shit, right? It would be trivial to trace where an attack came from, and there's no guarantee that you're wiping out an entire civilization or just one settlement out of thousands who are now looking for revenge. Hell there could already be millions of space habitats on the system you're attacking that dwarf the planet's population by 1000 to 1. It also shows everyone you're a threat that needs to be put down.
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cool, thanks