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>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-bet a-update-october-21-2025
>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander- brackets-beta
>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned
>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas
>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com
>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com
>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com
>Card search
https://scryfall.com
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)
>Precons
https://magicprecons.com
>TQ
Morcant's art was bothering me. Anyone else do this?
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>>97472435
Made this frame too
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>>97472490
depends on the amount of prep you do, you can find some pro examples online that look indistinguishable from a normal card
mine were probably amateurish, idk its been almost a decade since i tried and all my old shit got thrown out
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i'm annoyed that tarkir 2 came and went and orcish bowmasters didn't get a mardu-themed reprint
i get that they aren't gonna put it in standard, and i understand that there wasn't a bonus sheet that set
but we have secret lairs now
they could've done a secret lair with orcish bowmasters and four five-cent commons in the tarkir showcase frame, and it would've sold out in ten seconds
but they didn't
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>>97472659
true, but my LGS is reputable and fairly large. they do international shipments and are the biggest one in the country. if it was one of the smaller stores in the area that i go to, i would clear it with them. but they are a big store (and have always had good customer service in my experience) and i am not worried about ripping them off, being ripped off, or some other fuckery. i am just gonna take the win.
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>TQ
No. The literal card quality is bothering me. They changed the paper again in lorwyn it’s thinner and it’s even worse for curling. Non foils cupped completely out of the pack the literal fucking weekend they hit the shelf. Astonishing. Finally the last magic product I buy. I even opened the mythic artifact I wanted and I’m still done. There’s no saving this game anymore, you can’t even play with the literal playing cards.
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They really need this card in MTG.
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>>97472718
Anyone? I'm looking for tips to improve this deck before I go forward with buying it. Also another question, is there a better place than TCG Player to buy Magic cards? I've always used them for my bandai games, but I've seen multiple sites listed for magic.
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>>97472832
What now?
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>>97472885
Let them fight
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>>97472885
Flavor of the month philistines are dumb and bad. I suggest building Nemata edicts.dec and locking them under a grave pact because they are gonna have a hard time building a board presence if they evoke all their shit.
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>>97472885
Start diddling with their cards
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>>97472927
Yes. It only works with a particular VERY niche card in yard and only during combat. In mtg it can be countered or negated. I'd settle for an instant, but in yugioh it's on a body, and it recurs itself when the creature it reanimates dies. And there's another one that procs on any activated effect or played card AND you run it with this fucking guy who summons himself for free when a creature dies, discards a card to blow up a card (both are positives) AND special summons himself if he dies, which also bounces the creature back to your hand.
I'd settle just for the combat trick in mtg.
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>>97472958
Whoops, wrong image. For comparison, he's like a 9/9 in 20 life mtg.
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Magic needs this guy
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>>97473162
YES.
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>>97473162
You know, the Dragon Rulers probably wouldn't be so hard to translate into magic. Just a dragon for every attribute that also has escape. Mutate is visually similar to XYZs but it's not in practice. I'd like to see how something like that could be done.
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>>97473180
2019, apparently. Maybe I'm just nostaligic, but I feel the same way about earlier mtg.
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Been thinking about building Mairsil and now I'm wondering, how do I do a "combo" deck at B3 or B2? For that matter, how do I play combo without being a huge obnoxious nigger about it?
On one hand, I have a terminal johnnybrain and think Rube Goldberg machines to give yourself massive advantages are the sickest shit in the game and that's 100x more interesting to me than yet another +1/+1 counter stacker or making 50 billion [tribe] tokens. On the other hand, "I have 3 cards I win" is boring as fuck and I'd rather kill myself than put Thoracle in a list. What's the trick to finding a middle ground here?
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>>97473317
Enable the combo in a fun way. A nondeterministic storm setup is the way of true happiness. It is, however, the worst shit ever for a casual to sit through and they will cry, but fuck 'em, the compromise is doing it shittily so you dont do it good and blow them out.
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>>97473402
sorry but being a terminal johnnybrain is by definition a huge obnoxious nigger wasting other people's time with solitaire masturbation
any spike will do the right thing by ending the nonsense with thoracle or something
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>>97473467
Not wasting anyone's time. Stop me from doing it, then you get the joy of seeing me sad AND get to keep your time intact. If you wont or cant, your time cannot be wasted because you did not care about it in the first place during deck design.
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>>97473527
Play battlecruiser
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>>97473531
NTA but one of the most disappointing things about Magic is realizing that the best way to play Magic is to stop your opponent playing Magic.
If you are letting your opponent take game actions you are playing suboptimally.
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>>97473548
but some battlecruisers are better than others and timmy knows this
present yourself as a policeman of sorts taking down the "obvious target" and timmy will like you more even when you beat them
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>>97473564
>Spike projecting his self-image onto others as he tutors his combo again.
>And why should I care about the most coddled, precious, least skilled, least attentive player'd opinion?
like any poker player shark worth their salt spikes want fish swimming around the pod to farm wins from and it's in spike's best interest to keep timmy happy even if he loses constantly, dumbass johhnies can never comprehend this wisdom
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>>97473569
I'm not codled at all? They never print fun cards designed for me or rework entire formats around what I like.
>>97473586
I think the mistake you're making is that I'm not capable of playing at a high level; I have instead chose to do insane things so I enjoy the process of winning so I am not bored.
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>>97472435
>TQ:
there are dozens of us, dozens!
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>>97472832
>dark spirit of banishment
>creature - zombie warrior
>whenever a creture attacks you, you may sacrifice ~. if you do, you may return target zombie creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. it has no abilities.
>whenever a nontoken zombie you control dies, you may return this card from your graveyard to your hand.
>4/1
not sure what mana cost this should have, or how (and whether) the level 8 restriction should be replicated
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>>97473548
This. Choose your destiny.
>reject modernity
>embrace tradition
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>>97473668
I was just going to say straight up:
Dark Spirit of Banishment
1B
Demon Spirit
When an opponent declares an attack, if a 7cmc demon is in your graveyard, you may discard this card: Choose a 7cmc demon from your graveyard. It loses all abilities and is placed onto the battlefield.
If a 7cmc Demon is sent to the graveyard while ~ is in the graveyard, you may return ~ to your hand.
2/1
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>>97472832
>all those words
YOU FOOL! YOU'VE ACTIVATED THE WINGED DRAGON OF RA'S SPECIAL EFFECT. YOU OWE ME SEVEN DOLLARS
I feel like you could make up a lot of yugioh effects on the spot because the text is so long and tiny that it hits "I ain't readin' all that" territory
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>>97473317
i must have made this in like 2018 or 2019
it's still valid, with the caveat that i took out the hidetsugu/pillar bug combo and i now run staff of domination instead of torchling
https://scryfall.com/@777/decks/36d0618b-a862-4c0c-b6c4-c87e7a97b701
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>>97473670
You forgot someone
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>>97473162
Actually, Magic needs her.
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>>97473777
you just hit the jackpot, tiger
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>>97473914
We already got that one.
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>>97473804
i think the only ones that i did specifically were that one and this one; there are plenty of others in this general style
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Why is he so smug?
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>>97473162
Magic will unironically need this card before long if the fucking creature powercreep keeps up.
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Does this card go infinite with Isilu if it dies with persist? It comes in with a +1/+1, , the -1/-1 removes it, he sets to 0/0 and it dies, then it comes back with persist and repeats the process.
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Unmask II
Creature - Elemental Incarnation
Unmask but a creature
3/2 with menace
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>>97474031
cute
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>join pod at the LGS
>playing a while
>an hour in the animar player suddenly and angrily announces we took way too long, and that now he has to go
>what?
>he apparently only showed up to play for an hour without telling us
>bitches about control players removing his hydras and slow games being boring
>tells us he should've played his combo deck so it would've ended
the guy had to be like in his late 40s and he thought he could get cascade triggers by natural ordering into maelstrom wanderer rofl
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I wanna build a deck with flip Terra, but I fucking hate WUBRG. I get why they did it, but I wish they had just kept her Gruul. What are some good sagas that touch grueling, like include G or R or both and another color? Figure they're got enough gay dorks that i can easily fix for 1 or 2 mana at a time outside of my main colors
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>Move so I start looking for a new LGS
>Find a pod and ask what everyone's playing and how hard we're going
>"We're all 3s"
>Okay cool I'll play something not super strong
>"I have a pregame action, Gemstone Cavern"
>Oh okay that was a fucking lie
And they said brackets would help
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Feeling bored and angry, might draw something. Does anyone want a design for custom sleeves? I can't draw humanoids and I can't spend more than a couple hours on it. Patterns or symbols in a particular art style would be easiest. You would also need to tell me what dimensions to make the image so it prints right.
Goonslop will be ignored entirely.
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>>97474336
I don't mind Gemstone Cavern, I do mind when people are disengenuous about what they're playing when you then start to see Wheel of Fortune. Tutors, and One Rings after sitting down and playing a few games.
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>>97474372
Wheel isn't even on the game changer list and nothing about tutors puts them out of bracket three. You've listed one game changer and a bunch of things that are completely fine in every bracket. That's definitionally 3.
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fug
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>>97474379
It's okay because at the end of the night I won 4 games in a row with my bracket 2 Yuriko Demonic Consult/Thoracle deck
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9/11
Artifact
Exile all cards from new york
Players can’t cast spells or have permanents from new york enter the battlefield.
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>>97474491
>pic related but worse
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>negotiating a trade for a jailbroken New 3DS XL for some cards from my friend
What's a fair value for this, I don't mind giving him a good deal since it got lost at my job and I just snagged it from lost and found but I don't wanna get completely gypped. He's already putting up borderless Vivi, borderless Vedalken Orrery and foil EA Mithril Coat as an offer.
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Fairy buttHey! Listen!
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>>97474530
3DS's are going for a pretty penny these days, in the neighborhood of $200. If you've got slots for those cards then I'd say it's reasonable if you understand you're doing him a favor, but if that's just the expensive chaff he's got laying around you'll probably need another $50 to start being reasonable
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>>97474589
I do need those cards for decks, gonna get him to send me some pictures of his higher value binder (he lives like 2 and a half hours away) to see if there's anything else I might want to bling decks out.
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>>97474579
Look at that fuckin slut. She knows what she is doing
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>>97474322
you can be forgiven because you clearly don't interact with a lot of nerds
if someone says bracket 3 it means they're either a smarmy disingenuous little line-stepping cocksucker or poor, in either case you should steer clear
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So, uh, I started getting targeted ads on twitter
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So for some reason setting up and executing a sudden instant win with Frodo Sauron's Bane is exciting as hell for me. Feels stealthy. Feels intense. It's fun.
What are some other "create difficult circumstances to instant win" decks are there besides Etrata and Phage. Phage doesn't seem fun and Etrata isn't very suspenseful.
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>>97473944
I fucking love these and need more of them
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>>97474699
games that require unique hardware that is difficult to replicate through emulation, decent library, piracy and homebrew, portable, nostalgia, and the current offerings of new games being absolute dogshit. that's my guess.
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>>97474422
>that flavor text
Holy fuck
I didn't know these guys were meant to be actual characters, that's one of the only lines from this game that I remember and it was his win quote
Knew literally nothing about MtG when I played it as a kid so I should probably go back and try it again
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>>97474772
And the Swastika was originally a symbol of good fortune and well-being.
Doesn't fucking matter when the vast majority of people don't have experience and sanskrit nor medieval or european religious history, but you know this you disingenuous cunt.
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>>97474772
> They obviously aren't KKK
I don't even think the artist would agree with you here anon
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>storm cuck spins his wheels
>uhh any response? ok I'll go infinite
>grapeshots for 30 billion
>cast pic rel and brick his combo
>make 30 billion elves and exile opponent's libraries (thx etb maralen)
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>>97474666
Not 100% happy with composition, but it probably looks fine at card scale rather than on my monitor.
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>banned AGAIN in pauper
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>>97474816
Extort
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What is the minimum of a creature type for a deck to have before this is playable?
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>>97474830
Most tribal decks are going to be looking at 25-30 creatures of their tribe if ETBs or board presence matters.
I would say I don't think this is a good card and it is massively overvalued right now.
Realistically it's going to come down too late in the game to matter. There's plenty of other ways to draw cards, and elves especially already have no problem drawing on ETB (pic related) in fact it being on cast on not ETB is a significant drawback.
+2/+2 first strike trample also doesn't matter in most circumstances. It's not enough to be a finisher, and for like 2 more mana you can just be casting spells that end the game instead of this. For the sake of argument, turn 6-7 would you rather topdeck Chronicle of Victory or Craterhoof?
I think if it said creatures of that type had some kind of protection it might be better. But yeah, realistically this is coming down towards the end of the game, you're probably not going to be casting many more creatures of your tribe anyway. It doesn't close the game, and what it does do is done better by generic cards.
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>>97474826
They built pic related to basically shell around Alela Cunning Conqueror.
I already have an Alela deck and I'm not taking it apart for Maralen, I'd rather build an elves+fairy deck for her and avoid repeating too many of the cards I already run in Alela. But that's my personal tism.
Objectively I could put Alela in the 99, pic related in the command zone, and just cut a bunch of shit to run the best green cards and it would probably be a better deck than Alela
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>>97474871
Yeah, I'm fucking aware cunt. The only reference I made to turns in the post was "turn 6-7" which is when the bracket system says a bracket 2 game can end.
If you're ramping with elves you still ramp into a wincon instead of casting this shitrock for 6 and drawing like 2 cards off creature casts.
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>maybe I just like the card and want to play with it
>maybe I'm not playing green
>maybe artifacts matter
Just give me an answer instead of bitching about it. 25-30 is typical? Ok. What is the minimum?
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>What is the minimum?
100. Run 100 creatures anon.
Fuck off if you're going to cry about someone discussing the merits of a card you posts. The audacity to get bitchy when people answer questions you didn't ask while you're literally begging to be spoonfed some kind of non-existent magic number for your deck instead of figuring out what works for you as you build it.
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>>97474762
Pic related.
There's a shit load of cards that care about life being at 13. They're not even good in Standard where the life total is 20. If someone knows they're at risk of losing by your next turn they can all just punch each other to make their life not 13 anymore lmao
You're going to want to run Tree of Perdition but good luck!
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>You typed up several paragraphs of information that was unwanted without answering the question
1. I did answer the question, you even fucking quoted it in your reply.
2. You gave absolutely no context for what you were running, so I generalized. I didn't even say you had to be in green, I just chose it as a very common tribal color and made points around that. Everything I said stands to reason no matter what fucking colors your in. 6 mana is close to wincon cost and every color has access to generic wincons.
3. - and this is the big one here anon- don't get pissy about receiving more information than you asked for when you're literally begging for scraps on 4channel
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>>97475189
>ay ma! I posted my subjective opinion as objective fact again!
Also I find it hilarious that you say the white text on the old frame is easier to read when I literally can’t even see that theres text there on the compressed image that comes up when I view on phone, meanwhile the newer text is fine
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Building a deck for an LGS, they're doing 50$ CEDH where everyone submits a list that is 50$ or less (based on TCGplayer prices, minus shipping) and then competes for prizing.
What would be the best bang for your buck commander if it is purely win focused? I was looking at Magda since she seems to paradoxically be one of the most played and powerful commanders, but her support is so narrowly used by her that no other deck wants it.
Are there any other big ones I'm missing in this range?
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>>97475257
I've gone full schizo and unironically believe they do this on purpose to demoralize and to keep you hooked. Like you can't tell me it's random there are so little Seb Mckinnon legendaries before they kicked him out for not getting vaccinated
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>>97475222
bracket system is stupid and flawed. just dont play with it
>>97475322
seb did nothing wrong and his art is amazing. wish he was allowed to be an artist for wotc again instead of the anime slop screenshot gook crap we've been getting lately (EOE exempt it was amazing)
>>97475349
after they flopped and we wuz saviours'd the Phyrexians arc and went "oops absolutely nothing bad happened and there were no ramifications whatsoever other than metal meanies are put in gay baby jail" i checked out
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>>97474989
Hand traps are just instants. Functionally it's most comparable to Adventures except it goes to grave instead of exile to be cast.
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>looking through old tcgplayer orders trying to find a particular one for a deck I built
>bought an lp mox diamond back in 2017 for 60$
>don't remember ever having it
>could've been stolen, never recieved, or I traded it for something retarded
I'm mad.
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>>97474813
Damn that's a nice one I think I'll hold onto it. Glad I've been packing this one ever since they started printing "can't be countered" on fucking everything post-Delighted Halfling.
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>>97475249
I think there's an argument for Grenzo, Dungeon Warden.
You can win in a handful of different ways off no board state and one or two cards.
Doomsday pile of workhorse (or priest of gix / urabrask), goblin lord, kiki-jiki, and zealous conscripts.
Alt doomsday pile workhorse, metallic mimic, either priest, skirk prospector, murderous redcap
Kiki-jiki / enchantment reanimation + worldgorger -> infinite grenzo activations to grab whatever combo
Buried alive + any reanimation -> necrotic ooze, asmodeus, skirge familiar.
Doomsday and Kiki are the only particularly expensive cards. Rest is whatever fast mana, discard, and tutors budget allows.
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>>97475683
>think it's shopped
>look it up
>that's his actual statline
my sides
that's so based
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>>97472435
I checked the OP, does this seem like a good deck? I specifically picked this one because it uses 6 different Teferi Planeswalkers and I thought that was pretty cool.
https://archidekt.com/decks/6442969/teferi
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>>97473193
>I'd like to see how something like that could be done
inprint probably. or a new ability similar to inprint that puts the cards in the graveyard when the creature is destroyed
also, writing this i realized that it's not true that ygo doesn't have keywords, every alternate summoning mechanic like xyz has its own rules that aren't explained on the cards, they are basically ygo's keywords
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>>97476088
I haven't built it yet, but I've been thinking about it since realizing that half the pieces needed for infinites are in the Encyclopedia of Magic secret lair. I think it can hold up well as a sacrifice goodstuff deck with Ygra there to enable a game winning combo. Not too different from the Pioneer Ygra cat oven decks. Little room for more artifact synergies, but still in the sacrifice theme like KCI.
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Building Karona-chan as a changlings deck. Suggestions?
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>>97476189
I see, I see.
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>>97476088
well you didn't post a list but if you are comboing you just put in tutors and a couple protection pieces. trying to stall the game with creatures or protecting your lifetotal with blockers doesn't matter
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>>97476184
Pic related and all the auras that make enchanted creature not allowed to declare attacks targeting you.
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>>97476281
I've already got the impetus cycle on my list. Nice call on the cloak, though on its own it won't save me from commander damage. I can probably gaslight my group into forgetting that fact for half a game at least.
I'm mostly looking for suggestions on what lords and tribal synergies to consider.
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>>97476336
Great song by Aborted.
No, but I have done something equally crazy. I killed someone with this.
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>>97476364
You're right, that is a great song by Aborted.
How did you win? Did you take crontrol of a big damage spell like Crackle With Power?
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So I am fairly new at magic but one thing I dont get is why should I play so much removal? Isnt it better to have a deck full of problems my opponents need to solve instead of wasting my time solving problems when I cant solve them all anyway.
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>>97476412
Hells yeah! They're sick live too, I saw them with Archspire and they stopped the show at one point because a guy got fucked up in the pit. He popped back up with his teeth all mangled, the band shrugged, and went right back into it.
Anyways, I killed them the same way they did in legacy; by making the esper deck pay red for a pact.
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>>97476425
Your opponent plays this on you. What do you do?
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I am making a "Ureni of the Unwritten" deck and i am unsure how many protection spells or counterspells to include in the deck. Is it better to just keep counterspells for protection in a Temur deck? Or it's better to balance it with things like "Heroic Intervention"?
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>>97476999
>I want to live in a world where doing 40 damage to players for 40 mana is viable
>no I do not want to run a good way to do it (carnival of souls, a sac outlet, grave crawler, genesis chamber, and a soul warden like)
>I want to tap lands to do it
That could never be viable anywhere, particularly not in edh.
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>want to look at some edh discussion and see what people are chatting about
>slow thread on 4chan
>reddit is just full of people talking about pod social interactions and sucking each other's dicks.
>decide to look into the discord servers, they're either dead or the regulars are talking about trans issues
Why don't people want to talk about magic anymore?
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>>97477163
Because you yourself arent talking about magic. There are only so many things to say. Most questions the average person is capable of answering are answered en masse, indexed, and are easily searchable. Therefore only esoteric high level current topics remain. And because most people arent capable of discussing them, but they are also bored, they latch on like a tick and bicker about nonsense.
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edh is so fun when you explore the old stuff
this plus propoganda
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>>97477328
>A creature won’t be destroyed if it was unable to attack that turn, even if you had a way to enable it to attack. For example, a creature that had summoning sickness wouldn’t be destroyed even if you had a way to give it haste.
no? no, it looks like it doesn't work. though obviously propaganda effects would mean that creatures that can attack can still attack other players and would still get blown up by the enchantment.
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I'm phonefagging right now, anybody with photoshop at hand please feel free to put on this card these 2 artworks I'm about to post.
Do what wizards should have done in their incredible incompetence, laziness and creative bankruptcy.
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>>97472844
Yes, put more ramp in there, get more mdfcs, and at least 38 lands (assisted by mdfcs). Mono white ramps only second to green. You can add:
>Witch Enchantress
>Ondu inversion (replace promise of loyalty [promise usually results in opponents keeping their best value creature anyways, it was useful once upon a time, but not anymore, single combat is better because it has a light stax effect until your next turn])
>Sejiri shelter
>Razorgrass ambush
For mono white you need to be dynamic with your lands, try the desert package:
>Arid Archway (card advantage, can return things like witch Enchantress in a pinch)
>Lazotep Quarry (graveyard recursion+ sac outlet)
>Scavenger grounds (graveyard removal)
>Sand scout
Other lands to swap plains out:
>Demolition field (gets rid of pesky powerful lands)
>War room
>Plaza of heroes
>Guildless commons
Ramp to add other than sand scout:
>Wayfarer's bauble
>Archaeomancer's map
>Weathered wayfarer
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>>97477458
It's a fucking PROXY.
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>having a legal deck
shiggydiggy
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>>97477429
This art reminds me of that weird MtG mmolite videogame they tried to put out a few years ago where you went from bolas's meditation realm to zendikar and earned spells in the form of cards. Can't for the life of me remember what is was called.
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>>97477194
Okay. I will start talking about magic. I hope that encourages further discussion on the topic.
>>97477273
You are absolutely right! I will begin discussing magic and hopefully that sparks some additional discourse on the topic.
>>97477174
Yes I would like to talk about my favorite artifacts with you. Here they are in no particular order:
>Mage Slayer
There's definitely easier ways to make your creature effectively unblockable but I just think it's a really cool card. Thematically a sword just for killing wizards (your opponent) makes a lot of sense and I like the art.
>Gustha's Scepter
0 mana to play and saves you from losing an important piece to discard or theft at instant speed. I love this card.
>Scrawling Crawler
Gives you a body on the field, a draw engine, and punishes your opponent for their draws for the same amount of mana as phyrexian arena, except you dont lose life. Never a feels-bad play.
>Worldwalker Helm
Free map tokens and I get to copy another artifact token on command. Its great. I also like to pretend that my planeswalker is just wearing this ridiculous looking thing on his head while he's casting spells.
>Assimilation Aegis
Probably one of the coolest pieces of protection in the game in my opinion. Also its not even legendary so you can make copies of it.
>The Aetherspark
Does cool things, isn't broken, doesn't care that it's not a real person, simple as.
Tell me what you think of my favorite artifacts. I would also like to know what your favorite artifacts are, and how you use them in your games
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>>97477423
That'll be 50 dollars, you stopped me from slapping shitty big titty goblins onto shit for all of 2 minutes.
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>>97477576
>he wouldn't pay $50 for a proxy of a $0.05 card
poorfags all of you
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>like the new set and its mechanics
>but all my existing decks are several years old and developed enough that there aren't any real replacements to be made
>only maybe one of the new commander options gets my noggin joggin, but not in a way that interacts with other cards or mechanics from the set
fug
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today's mail packaging report
>envelope containing invoice and cardboard shipping card protector, cards in penny sleeve and individual perfect fits
this cardboard sleeve had adhesive and was kind of annoying to open, but otherwise perfectly fine packaging
>envelope with shipping information sticker over flap and wrapped in packing tape, sticker was obviously ripped during application but didn't affect getting here
>no invoice, cards in two cardboard shipping sleeves
>shipping sleeves taped shut with painters tape, then wrapped in packing tape, then taped together top-to-top with packing tape so that the side you're meant to open them by was wrapped in tape
3/10, got here without problem, worst opening experience humanly possible. easier to rip open the bottoms of the shipping shield things
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>>97477530
It had an open beta before it was canceled. Kind of a silly game concept where everyone plays as fledgling planeswalkers with three man groups for dungeons and quests and raid bosses
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>>97477649
I like to build her as Mass Reanimation (The "Big Turn")
Since Amalia acts as a self-mill engine, the graveyard becomes your second hand.
The Payoff: People run "mass" recursion spells like Ascend from Avernus, Rally the Ancestors, or Return to the Ranks.
The Chain Reaction: When you reanimate 10+ small creatures at once, they all enter the battlefield, triggering your "Soul Sisters" multiple times. This causes Amalia to explore rapidly, often hitting her exactly 20 power threshold in a single turn, wiping the board of everything else and leaving you with a massive Commander.
3. Notable Synergies & Tech
Lurrus of the Dream-Den: Often used as a companion or in the 99 because most of your core engine (lifegain dorks and protection) costs 2 mana or less.
Self-Sacrifice Protection: Since Amalia’s board wipe is symmetrical (it hits your own creatures), players use Selfless Spirit or Boromir, Warden of the Tower to protect their board before she hits 20 power.
The Infamous Combo: In 60-card formats, she combos with Wildgrowth Walker to explore infinitely. In Commander, this is harder to pull off but still a powerful inclusion if you can change the Walker's color or use similar triggers.
4. Alternate Win Conditions
If attacking with a 20/20 Amalia isn't enough, the deck often runs:
Aristocrat Drains: Blood Artist, Cruel Celebrant, and Zulaport Cutthroat to kill opponents when your creatures die to Amalia's wipe.
Aetherflux Reservoir: Since you are gaining life dozens of times a turn, this becomes a reliable "laser beam" to finish the game.
Thats what I think anyway.
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>>97477751
Eh, the AI was telling me what I kind of had a clue for already. I didn't think about Lurrus but I dislike companions on principle especially in EDH.
I find it really funny that you copy pasted AI and ended the post with "That's what I think anyway". Thanks for trying to help at least
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>that manabase is too good for bracket 2
>you're running too many answers for bracket 2
>your deck is too focused on a strategy for bracket 2
>tribal can't be bracket 2 because it has too much support
how the FUCK do you build a bracket 2 deck?
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>>97477856
>that manabase is too good for bracket 2
Whiny bitchtake, Taigas and shit are fine for any Bracket
>you're running too many answers for bracket 2
Another bitchtake, interaction is B2 and up
>your deck is too focused on a strategy for bracket 2
Way too vague, need context
>tribal can't be bracket 2 because it has too much support
3/4 confirmed bitch takes
You got this critiques at an LGS didn't you?
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>>97477880
Actually no, I only play bracket 3. This is just from reading comments online about what people think "bracket 2" is. From what I gather you have to give yourself brain damage and forget how to build a deck to qualify.
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>>97477545
>magic players do a better product than wizards itself
grim
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>>97477506
I want to put an aetherspark in kharn (the betrayer), but it's 20 dollars still. how well does it work out, in your experience, and in what kind of deck?
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>Forcefield
Forcing opponents to over commit just to do damage to you is great.
>Calendar
Love dumb ass ticking clocks, people will often just panic remove it even when there is 0 damage of it going off any time soon, giving your other artifact a bit more safety, even if its slight.
>Reaver Cleaver
Fantastic ramp piece
>Alter of the brood
I'm going to be making a lot of tokens, why not mill you wile I'm at it, and since its only 1 mana, worth the investment.
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If you had to make a white border deck, what commander would you pick?
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>>97477483
the gore will continue until aesthetics improve
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>>97478104
>the piss lands
That made me laugh. You are right, I've never seen anyone else use them. I've had them for over a decade.
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>>97478111
not voltron, just something that can use combat triggers for consistent value
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>>97478135
... why wouldnt you use working cards other than to be obtuse as a challege on purpose? Not running fetches is just retarded, particularly in edh, and if you dont understand why or feel you must disagree, then there is no salvation; you dont know enough about the game.
Swords to plowshares? It's fine enough, what's the issue?
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>>97478104
the piss lands are aetherdrift though
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>>97478157
>be obtuse as a challege on purpose?
that is exactly what you are doing when you're not running a cedh deck. you are always choosing to not run the obvious optimal strategy because you're a normal functioning human who understands that there's fun in doing more novel things rather than what's well-trodden and obvious. I don't know if I can make this dogshit chaff from Ice Age works, the fun is figuring out if I can. I know that super staples works, there's literally no fun in using them.
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>>97478176
No, actually. You can run a functional deck just fine that isnt cedh, and even in cedh there is a fairly large amount of variation other than the centralized wincons at the top.
There is nothing novel about being mad that cards are functional and compentent. Nothing about the brackets other than 1 preclude you from running useful cards outside of itemized ones. This is a you problem, you should accept that, and keep the judgement to yourself. Particularly the fetches, the fuck are you doing? They give you so much utility between grabbing a triome, grabbing a surveil land, or grabbing utility lands with basic types on top of improving deck consistency by introducing shuffles mid game to change the set order. It's just silly to be mad about that.
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>>97478225
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>>97478225
They are as cheap as they've ever been, no more than $30 for the best ones. Scalding tarn alone was over $100 for years. Shocklands are $10-$20. And you dont need more than 3 unless you're a 5 colour faggot, then you did it to yourself.
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>>97478251
but I run 40 basics
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>>97478235
you kid but a car analogy is actually apt
people are free to use true duals in bracket 2 but personally i find pimping out your bracket 2 deck with true duals weird, because that's exactly like pimping out your fucking toyota corolla
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>>97478283
No, bloodmoon is a cool guy who doesnt afraid of anything. Now, contamination though...
>>97478271
Sure? Werent you just arguing staples are bad? Bloodmoon is sick.
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>Sure? Werent you just arguing staples are bad? Bloodmoon is sick.
i wasn't that anon but hey if you want to play cedh just say so, ad naus is the sickest
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>>97478291
>blood is moon is fine guys
>but if you use contamination on me you fucking suck nooo stop it noooo gavin help meeeeeeee
yeah that's right you better run lol
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>>97478301
Hells yeah, love me some ad naus.
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>>97478308
I think you're missing that I play exclusively monocolour decks and I love contamination. Bloodmoon? Family fun for everyone. Everyone loves bloodmoon. Contamination? Now that one FUCKS; if you're going to be mad, that's the one to be mad about. Back to basics? Meh. Hall of Gemstone? Meh. Contamination? Now that's a real one.
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>>97478301
Ad Naus can work in a lot of decks and realistically shouldn't even be a GC
It's certainly good but it's single-use, not an engine like Citadel, and the property that makes it so disgusting in cEDH also means it's nowhere near as strong in an average b2 deck. Like if you're willing to pay 5 mana and dome yourself for 12 before even refilling your hand then go right ahead my dude that's perfectly fine
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>>97478324
>I think you're missing that I play exclusively monocolour decks
yes bong i had no choice but to miss that because "monocolour/mono colour/monocolor/mono color" doesn't appear anywhere itt other than (You)
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>>97478338
You always have a choice.
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>>97478333
a common misunderstanding about GCs is that they're strictly about powerlevel
you may not agree with gavin's reasoning but part of why he made ad naus and thoracle GCs is that they are going to be used by dumb casuals to run an eggs list in b2 with the sole intent to adnaus for thoracle win and gavin finds that contrary to the intent of b2
>this is why nadu and paradox engine are never going to be unbanned even if they weren't broken, because they are absolute logistical nightmares wasting people's time and this is actually a subtle jab from gavin that players who love longwinded nondeterminstic combos aren't actually fun people to have in a b2 pod
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t. Crow
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>>97478434
>all nondeterministic combo decks have only bracket 1 powerlevel
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>>97478408
Nadu is banned in every format but vintage. It's broken. Paradox engine? Unpopular opinion, but I fucking love paradox engine and I cry every day I cant play it. And B2 has nothing to do with anything; the problem with paradox engine is idiots who never goldfished would put it in their deck and slowly stumble through a long winded bullshit interaction they figure out on the fly. Competent people play quickly, myself included, even when I'm doing something elaborate because I've practiced, I have an objective, and I understand the conditions where I should stop. Some doorknob playing what's in their hand? Not so much.
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>>97478464
>damnit it's not my fault people can't use paradox engine correctly! fucking idiots can't play for shit!
you feel the same way about mld?
because i'm fine with mld but i'm fully aware that too many people use them just to stall the game w/o any followup whatsoever and gavin banned them in casual because of that, yes there is an injustice there but such is life and part of life is being able to accept things you have no control over and don't agree with
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>>97478488
Yes. Exactly that. The rule should be: "dont use these cards if you're an idiot, and if you are an idiot you wont be allowed to use them again". But that requires a level of nuance I cant expect from anyone.
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what's the definition of a lockout combo? is pic related not bracket 3?
it doesn't prevent anyone from advancing their gameplan so for me it's fine, but my pod says otherwise
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>>97472435
Current deck building process is as follows:
>pick commander
>36 basics spread evenly between colors
>ramp/draw staples for colors
>use scryfall/tagger to find stuff that works/might work with commander's gameplan
>fiddle with the deck in tappedout until it's down to 100 cards
>check edhrec for any glaring omissions
>tweak landbase
>goldfish
>buy cards
I feel like this could be more efficient but I'm not sure how. Any advice?
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>>97478568
if your deck has a GC it is by definition a B3 deck regardless of power level
i swear people can't let go of their fucking staples and absolutely must have them in bracket 2 which is specifically not about staples
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>>97478568
>the one ring
your already not bracket 3 by default, the fact that you want to loop the effect is just the nail in the coffin
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Hi silly anons, what's being silly like? Cant imagine it's very fun.
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>>97478624
i know making (You) look silly in a children's card game by winning turn 1 is very fun to me yeah
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>want to build a clue deck
>there's really only one way to build them
>not really any twists or unexpected interactions
I know every kind of deck has been done and there are no new ideas but man this feels so soulless.
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>>97478663
ok fine i'll use tymna kraum instead to beat you turn 3 just so that you'll learn your lesson to stop cramming GCs in a bracket 2 pod
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>>97478756
Damn bro you whiny. Considering your "I'm really cool and good at magic but choose to be bad because I am just that good" flex is outdated by over a year, you should probably listen. Anyways, that's not what you asked for. Top8 is down, but goldfish the deck and actually play the format; you'll see.
>https://moxfield.com/decks/zxY0IDOaz0iVfbjO8xg6qA
This deck is a little out of date, there is some brand new outrageous technology like this six mana storm card I forget the name of that plays things from your graveyard. The top of the meta right now is Dargo Tymna with this guy and deadpool doing some crazy shit, the ral deck you saw, fifteen flavours of cradle control, and some mississipi river adjacent "midrange value" decks.
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>damn bro you whiny
look at you crying that i don't consider your deck S+ tier
i'm not saying ral or dargo tymna is bad (they're very good decks) but you'd be foolish to deny tymna kraum's extensive pedigree given that SO many people use it (eclipsing even kinnan, baby's first cedh deck) and it STILL has a 25% winrate, you might think you're hot shit playing le complex deck but in truth it's much better to be able to pilot and grind easier decks into top cuts
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>>97478905
Oh, oh my. He was complaining about his deck not being B3 despite fitting in the rules. And you misread it. Then you tried to flex with a t1 rogsi symbolic shitpost to justify why you werent silly, which used to be the best deck in the format, and when corrected, acted like a dingus.
We cool. But you are silly. And your adendum about staples is equally silly given the knowledge you say you have; a "goodstuff deck" with exclusively staples is really a mediumstuff deck cobbled by a dork compared to something with a focused design.
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>He was complaining about his deck not being B3 despite fitting in the rules
no dingus if he was asking that then asking "what is the definition of a lockout combo" doesn't even apply and makes no sense to ask, if your deck has a GC then it's B3+ even if it's just ashling the pligrim 98 mountains and TOR, in truth the guy was just trying to weasel his way into a b2 pod (hey guys it doesn't prevent anyone from advancing your gameplan so for me it's fine!!) but what am i to expect from a dime a dozen cedh autists that can't understand nuance?
>a "goodstuff deck" with exclusively staples is really a mediumstuff deck cobbled by a dork compared to something with a focused design.
case in point
man you are REALLY seething that ral isn't considered the best deck because being able to pilot a deck optimally over long periods with a low learning curve is actually a plus? sorry about that pfft
but hey ral is definitely the best izzet deck, don't cry anymore i'll give you that lol
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When did they race-swap Gideon?
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What are the best ways to win after casting a spell like this? I always want to run MLD like this and worldslayer but I can't figure out how to win after blowing everything up.
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>>97478952
I dont even play that deck, and my point was, you are saying something silly about staples that indicates you are inexperienced, and silly, then you said something to correct the perception, but was still silly.
We're good here.
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>>97478975
>you are saying something silly about staples
alas, yet another retard that doesn't even know how gavin defines brackets lol
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>>97478973
>What are the best ways to win after casting a spell like this? I always want to run MLD like this and worldslayer but I can't figure out how to win after blowing everything up.
this is the case study of why nobody will be able to play with paradox engine ever again
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>>97478981
>Wake me up inside.
>CANT WAKE UP.
So silly considering the nuance required to intuit that in the first place.
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>>97479000
nobody in their right mind would consider "you gain protection from everything" to be a lockout when it's dependent on a 2/1, let me guess you think tooth and nail into platinum angel leonin abunas will lockout a b2 pod too
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>build new deck I think is interesting
>test it out at LGS
>opponent has his own deck with the same commander I'm using
>its way better than mine
That was a bad feel. Not sure if I should try to upgrade the deck or just try a different commander. Feels weird to have the same commander as someone else.
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>>97479032
>whats the general opinion on planeswalkers
planeswalkers are a b2 power level archetype
some don't like them because when played optimally they are just boardwipe tribal and are just combo decks by doubling their loyalty and ulting immediately, but what's good about them is that they are good by themselves accruing steady value for you so long as you can protect them
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>>97479032
if you arent playing superfriends (a planeswalker heavy deck) they are generally seen as universally pretty weak, individually. they can do too little in a 4 player game. some tefferis are more annoying than others, and karn might be KoS depending on your deck, but by and large they aren't thought too highly of.
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>>97479022
Different but kinda the same feel:
>find a commander I really want to build, know exactly how to build it in a great way
>find out a friend runs him, his deck is a pile of shit
>no synergy, no card draw, lots of random cards that just don't fit. I don't think he's ever won with it
>don't want to build the deck and blow him out of the fucking water, making him feel bad
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>>97479019
No, I dont do whatever you just said. I dont think "lockout" means anything at all because it's not magic terminology; a soft lock is one that can be escaped with pain, a hard lock cannot. Lockdown and prison are both used, but "lockout" is vernacular. While both those words have "lock" there is no reference to what a lockout is anywhere official at all, and while a crazy person could say I could figure it out, a crazy person has said everything you've said so it's a fair question to ask. And technically, if it isnt " mass land denial" (another made up term), doesnt use a game changer, and is more than 3 cards, everything is fine so I dont particularly care either way about your hypothetical.
But all of this to say, bruh, relax. It's over. You're already dead. We chillin'.
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>>97479061
>the retard's still going
kek
if you check what you've encircled
>>97479000
you'd find "no 2-card lockouts before turn 6"
but assuming drafna + tor is even a lockout (which it's not) it requres 5U, meaning 6 mana, so you can only do this on your turn 6 so by definition it's perfectly fine
so good job defending a fag trying to weasel their way into a b2 pod saying "hey guys TOR is fine!!", the only thing dead here is your ability to take the L haha
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>>97479082
Wut.
>"If I assume something is something it isnt that doesnt mean anything it's fine even if it isnt fine or the subject of the conversation, or relevant, so that means you're this thing I made up that I cant prove that is quantum wrong so I can win a magic argument."
I mean... maybe? It is silly.
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>>97479042
I'm playing ral because he makes otter tokens and I play an otter deck, I guess that would be a thematic choice right
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>>97475222
Budget is irrelevant. My most expensive deck has 3 tutors (survival of the fittest, eldritch evolution, and neoform) and it's a rat tribal deck with ashcoat or karumonix as the wincons. In no world is that bracket 4 or cedh. There are probably precons it would struggle against.
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>Reya Dawnbringer and Sheoldred Whispering One both exist in white and black separately as big reanimate during upkeep triggers
>There is no Orzhov legend that does this
>All of the Orzhov reanimator legends ask you to jump through hoops (AKA blow deck slots to make the cards even work) or is conditional (cmc 3 or less)
Killin myself live in 30
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>>97479162
the hoop being gain life, on a body that has lifelink.
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>>97479162
Play a commander that enables reanimator instead of being a reanimator piece themselves
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UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKS!
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>>97479359
have a zesty black alien instead
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what kind of dumb shit holds cards like this ffs.
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Really wish the adventure costed red instead of green
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>>97479387
Since the initial post was about getting around fog effects and protection I was thinking more about ways to get around a theoretical state where your opponent has full protection or is unable to have damage done to him. I'd assume mono white and blue would have to resort to game winning effects since they don't have "damage can't be prevented" like effects the way red does and green has a few of.
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>>97479457
>mill
I didn't think about that one. That also does work. You'd need those mill effects that mill every opponent since you wouldn't be able to target an opponent with protection but that is a genuine option as well.
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>mill as a backup strat
Mill barely works as plan A.
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>>97479490
Mill is just bad burn, until it becomes the best combo finisher in the game.
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he cute?
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>>97479490
That was also why I didn't consider mill as an option. But if your opponent is somehow in a state where they have protection and/or can't be dealt damage there wouldn't be many other options in mono blue. This situation is less about a reliable strategy and more so a puzzle solution to an unlikely game state.
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>>97479519
I was thinking of something more like this https://moxfield.com/decks/qfCQtWDcVE-WsKBXUKEE7w
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>>97479537
I see the vision, but may I humbly suggest Mazirek? Also, regular Gitrog would just make a bajillion million tokens.
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QUICK! Post your top five favorite creature cards.
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decks
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>>97479617
I am confused. Well done. The function makes sense, but everything else swings wildly between "nice" and "why" in almost equal measure. In the end, I settled on nice, though it was very close.
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>>97479643
>Saffi
She is impossible to get rid of and brings anything back after a sac/removal. She is cheap, and has a cute bum.
>Spike Weaver
Fog on a stick. Super underrated and can shut down decks.
>Vish Kal
Flying lifelinking sac outlet and targeted removal that gets around indestructible
>Karmic Guide
Brings back any creature for combos, and if you haven't noticed all five of these combo together. Infinite fogs, infinite removal, giant 1 million/1 million flying lifelinker. All are good by themselves, but the more creatures like them you add the better they all become.
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>>97479617
>peak slop commander
>that summer's bloom "art"
>the whole strategy of that pile of cards
jfc
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>>97479740
He's not wrong, I thought the same thing. But I liked the DIY nature of the commander. I hated that it was Disney and serious. I was more concerned with the tokens that are proxies than just cheap proxies or the relatively inexpensive cards. Then again, I loved the no sleeves.
It was a complex feeling.
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Who's the most fun B3-4 Rakdos commander?
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>>97479776
>with Chronotog and Teferi's Protection to phase out indefinitely
No. Either the Chronatog gets phased out with Teferi's Protection, and so only skips a single turn, or they float mana, cast Teferi's Protection, and then drop the Chronatog to skip their turns for as long as the 'tog remains on the board. You can only activate Chronatog once per turn.
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>you might not like it, but this is what peak-performance looks like
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>>97479922
Honestly if I see one more Solitude in a fucking flicker deck I might start petitioning WotC to start bringing back inbuilt protection on everything for no fucking reason. We need more hexproof from abilities like Volatile Stormdrake.
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>>97480278
>Tam mentioned
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>order a bunch of Lorwyn cards from online retailer
>have everything I need to upgrade my elementals precon
>start to build it
>forgot Sunderflock
>literally one of the best cards for the precon
>it's out of stock online
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>>97480414
I have 2 LGS and they are terminally understocked. I'm not kidding, the one I play at has boxes of commons and uncommons but only a single half-full binder of rares. That's it.
It's a small city too, I don't know why they're so understocked. I used to live in a small town and the only LGS there had an inventory in the hundreds of thousands.
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>>97480515
This is true. I just want to use my Survival of the Fittest to pitch Trostani's Summoner and find Vesperlark but Gavin won't stand for it.
>>97480513
I kind of feel your pain, I forgot to order a Norn's Wellspring two days ago and my lgs doesn't have it in stock.
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Honestly the constant arguments over what's "bracket 3" really just drives in that it's the midwit filter.
>Hmm yes here's the bracket someone can consistently play Rhystic Study or TOR on turn 3, causing them to effectively win on the spot
>Surely this is the ideal environment for my relaxed casual play where I won't have to expect sudden wins at 8 mana
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>>97480557
No, it hasn't. Not sure what the point of this shitpost is. If it's a pathetic "made you look!" type thing, I already had cardmarket open as soon as I saw it was out of stock online.
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>>97480563
Remove brackets entirely.
We had banned cards for 10-15 years without this shit and it was fine because you said "Are banned cards okay?" and that was it, you either played with a deck that had banned cards or you played a deck that didn't.
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>>97480591
Honestly I kinda disagree with this because the average Commander player is so shit at card evaluation they'll throw a fit if a blatantly obvious problem card is banned. GCs are basically a compromise that lets people cope to themselves that the card is still legal when in reality they're doing what the RC always said people *should* do and self-selecting to shithole games.
To that end most of the banlist could be abolished and given GC status. Because as long as Rhystic Study is GC rather than banned, you can't make games much worse.
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>>97480563
meh, I usually play a healthy amount of removal in my decks so I'm not scared about Rhystic Study or TOR, they are not the boogeyman people think they are
bracket 3 is supposed to have interaction
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>>97480642
Please inform me how you're always removing the indestructible artifact in one turn cycle when this is a task even cEDH often can't manage.
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>play gamble
>search deck for card
>everyone is talking and shooting the shit while I do
>get card
>forget about the random discard
>end up winning
>no one notices
>I don't even realize until the game is over
oops
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>>97480591
>and it was fine
It was not fine, the power level system was widely considered a complete joke. The absence of any quantifiable metrics or wide consensus to even determine what a deck's "power level" was made it completely useless. For that matter the bans themselves were bad too, the RC was constantly shat on for never doing anything about obnoxious cards like Rhystic while at the same time keeping memeshit like Sway on the list as """"signpost bans"""" (read: not having the balls to ban cards anyone actually plays).
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>because you said "Are banned cards okay?" and that was it
You can still do this you stupid nigger, brackets do not change this at all. This exact same logic applies to letting you play adnaus in your b2 zombie shitpile.
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>>97480738
Worshipping the god of the jews as if he is your god even though he explicitly only talked to jews and aided them in battle for thousands of years with no record of him ever having cared about any other peoples in the entire world seems to me a silly thing to do
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>>97480756
When I see posts like this I remember how fucking botted this site now and I weep
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>>97480763
>nothing more based than worshipping the god of the jews, am I right fellow chuds?
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>>97480784
Sure! Here's a 100-card list for a nondeterministic storm commander deck.
Galazeth Prismari (Commander)
1 Anticipate
1 Backdraft Hellkite
1 Big Score
1 Bonus Round
1 Borne Upon a Wind
1 Braid of Fire
1 Brainstorm
1 Brainsurge
1 Cascade Bluffs
1 Command Tower
1 Commander's Plate
1 Consult the Star Charts
1 Contradict
1 Cryptic Command
1 Deduce
1 Deep Analysis
1 Deliberate
1 Desynchronization
1 Dig Through Time
1 Dispelling Exhale
1 Draconic Intervention
1 Draconic Lore
1 Dragonfire Blade
1 Dragonstorm
1 Earthquake
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Expressive Iteration
1 Fabled Passage
1 Farsight Ritual
1 Finale of Revelation
1 First Day of Class
1 Ghost Vacuum
1 Homeward Path
1 Howling Mine
1 Impulse
1 Into the Fire
10 Island
1 Lathliss, Dragon Queen
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Magmaquake
1 Marang River Regent // Coil and Catch
10 Mountain
1 Niv-Mizzet, Parun
1 Noble's Purse
1 Opt
1 Path of Ancestry
1 Perplexing Test
1 Pirate's Pillage
1 Ponder
1 Preordain
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Rite of the Dragoncaller
1 Ruby Medallion
1 Runescale Stormbrood // Chilling Screech
1 Sapphire Dragon // Psionic Pulse
1 Sapphire Medallion
1 Scour All Possibilities
1 Scourge of Valkas
1 Season of Weaving
1 Secrets of the Key
1 Shimmer Dragon
1 Silumgar's Scorn
1 Steam Vents
1 Stifle
1 Storm-Kiln Artist
1 Stormscale Scion
1 Strike It Rich
1 Sulfur Falls
1 Temple of the False God
1 Terrain Generator
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Trail of Evidence
1 Training Center
1 Twinflame Tyrant
1 Unexpected Windfall
1 Vandalblast
1 Vedalken Orrery
1 Vexing Bauble
1 Whirlwind Denial
1 Winged Words
1 Young Blue Dragon // Sand Augury
1 Young Red Dragon // Bathe in Gold
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>>97480547
You're still missing what I'm saying. Consecrated sphinx will still feel like a game changer at lower power levels. A tutor loses power level with the cards it could find. Humility or cyclonic rift are back breaking disruption. Casting opposition agent when your opponent's tutors are like farseek or cultivate is a world of difference from in cedh pods.
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>>97480730
>the RC was constantly shat on for never doing anything about obnoxious cards like Rhystic
rhystic study was sheldon's favorite card, that's the only reason it was never banned
it's funny to me that this fact will always be a thorn in "muh spirit of the format" faggotd