>TQ
I go out of my way to not use any of the top 100.

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>>97480791
>What's your favorite commander from the EDHREC top 100 list?
Pic related, although she's being replaced in Strixhaven and I don't know how I feel about it.
New Killian goads shit and draws you a card when a creature you goaded attacks.

I'm not sure how good he will be. The goad doesn't have to be on a creature you enchanted, and theoretically it could draw you 3 cards per rotation (or 4 if you goad your own shit, but you have to find a way to untap it too). But the goad also only lasts a rotation which means you have to constantly shit out auras which is much harder than you'd think, having played Eriette.

I dunno man, it's so close to being my perfect enchantress. If it was rakdos and goaded shit as long as it was enchanted, I wouldn't even care if the draw wasn't attached.
In white black I just don't think theres enough cards that will keep shit goaded and you're going to get punched in the face by cards you enchanted yourself, unless you play something like No Mercy and Ghostly Prison to avoid being targeted, which I think is going to be a bit of a waste of resources.

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>>97480818
>when a creature you goaded attacks.
*when a goaded creature you enchanted attacks

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>bought this precon at a bargain at around 25 bucks because why not
>its awfully painfully durdly
>the Sam Hyde energy deck from MH3 runs circles around it
Brown women not even once holy shit

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>>97480851
>gee why are these MH3 precons that retailed for double the price of a normal precon so much better????
A true mystery.

>>97480851
It's 25 dollars for a reason.

>>97480855
To be fair the Omo deck is whatever too out of the box. Its only good for the pushed lands like Talon Gates

>>97480791
Meren, it's the only one of the top 100 I've had assembled for any amount of time. Also, as far as graveyard decks go it doesn't feel like it forces a traditional 'reanimate a big threat asap' as much as other decks do.

>>97480855
Why didn't they use the art on the box?!

>>97480885
Because one piece of art can't be in two places at once.

>thousands of commanders, who should I build
>why, the most popular one that tells me how to build it and how to play it of course
Why are people like this?

Alternate thread objective:
Write a greentext story from the POV of one of your opponents playing against your deck and how they feel about it.

It didn't need to happen, by the way.

>>97480921
They arent. The top commanders are all UB or versatile enough to have a gigantic number of theory craft builds. Popular doesnt mean common. It means dorks keep making decks online about them.

>>97480953
Anyway here's my unique Atraxa deck (it's poison or superfriends)

>>97480885
Probably because it was commissioned later and the artist never drew a background for it
I also doubt that WotC is the kind of company to tell an artist that their work won't be used on a card because they made a woman too ugly

>>97480953
I play at the lgs. I see the slop first hand.

>>97480966
Are you stupid? If the deck existed, it wouldnt need to be built; it would be copied. Because atraxa is 4 colours and works broadly with a gigantic card pool, almost every deck is unique. This is why so many people brew it.

You're mostly showing off your limited understanding of how aggregation works to get cool guy hipster points.

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>>97480855
>big booba on the cover
>look inside
>flat chested bitch with mistery meat skin and cheaply made artwork
Is this fraudolent advertising?

>>97480981
>he thinks atraxa poison/superfriends is unique
lol

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>>97481078
Yes, I think 10 billion lists with one card different because 4c has a massive cardpool with broad themes are all unique to an aggregator. This is neither confusing nor an insult.

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>TQ

>look through EDH top 100
>Get sad

I just want to play my goofy "Literal who" legendary creatures.

>>97481164
Tell us what super special commanders you are running so we can berate you for your terrible choices.

>TQ
Why would I look at the most popular commanders amongst idiots who are just circlejerking?

>TQ
Only entry in the top 100 I ever built was kenrith and it was a tokens deck that I wanted a literal king at the helm of for flavor. I technically had an oloro deck at one point but I bought the precon when it came out so Im not sure if it counts

>>97480791
>What's your favorite commander from the EDHREC top 100 list?
It seems there are lot of precon commanders... so, Y'shtola, Teval, Hakbal, Hearthhull, Xyris, Zaxara, Zurgo, Galadriel and Tovolar are my favorites.

And of the commanders in top 100 list, I also have a few in the 99 in some deck: Lathril, Giada, Isshin, Muldrotha, Chatterfang, Necrobloom, Wilhelt, Meren, Teysa, Korvold, Alela and Queen Marchesa

>>97480818
I still plan to build Eriette and new Killian will be just secondary in the deck, for extra goad hijinks, if I happen to get lucky. You really cannot beat the pacifism effect and slowly draining everybody of life. But maybe there will be second commander that will have more aura focus, so, I am patient and my wallet is ready.

>>97481136
>>97480981
An impressively stupid post. You dont even know what the words youre using mean.

>>97480953
>ur dragon
So true! Lots of versatility here. Dragon A or dragon B. So many builds!
>Edgar markov
See above!
>atraxa
See above! 75% of atraxas decks are split across 3 obvious themes.
>krenko mob boss
See above!

I could go on. The top 20 are definitely not even remotely versatile and open ended like you suggest. And even less so when you actually look at the number of decks per theme.

>>97480821
>>97480818
Youre both wrong. Its just when a creature you have enchanted attacks. Goad is a one turn effect, auras arent.

>>97481222
>multicolour decks
>in the largest tribes that constantly get new cards
>and a 4c anything counters deck
Atraxa is. Those? They just get a new deck for every single new card printed, which is every set.

>>97481236
Imagine claiming atraxa is open ended when there's tymna thrasios

>tq
Miirym because I have a soft spot for both Worldgorger Dragon and Astral Dragon.

I built a merfolk tribal deck.
The commander?
Atraxa.
I'm heckin' valid.

>>97481236
Did you mean to reply to someone else? This makes no sense. You were simply wrong anon.

>>97481328
Whoops, misclicked you. You're alright. Keep on enchantressing.

>>97481228
It doesn't change much because people will simply not attack with a creature that draws you cards. It's not like a Rhystic Study where people need to be casting spells and dedicating mana to that rather than paying taxes. The goad is necessary to get people to attack with shit

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>>97481288
What on earth do you need black for? I'd just run Tocasia so you can still attack with your fish and also get their goofy tap effects on demand. Throw a Quest for Renewal in there and you're really tapping those fish.

>>97481362
So true no magic player would ever think giving an opponent a card is worth getting their huge combat damage or attack trigger off, or letting their wincons swing. Youre right anon xD

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>>97481422
You're kinda spitting facts there anon. Commander players frequently will be retarded and give away wins.

>>97481422
>B-B-BUT WHAT ABOUT IN MY CAREFULLY CRAFTED EXCEPTIONAL SCENARIO WHICH CLEARLY JUSTIFIES AN ACTION A PLAYER WOULD NOT NORMALLY TAKE?
Unironically kill yourself.

>>97481445
>carefully crafted
>simply the presence of very common game mechanics
>well he has an attack trigger... he has a huge beater and oh he has this 1/1 token ill goad the token teehee
Yes. You get to choose who to goad. Goad the ones that want to attack. Youre genuinely awful at this game anon.

>>97481427
Unfair towards black players, you know how many things I can do with 10 lives?

I want to learn to play magic because my friends play commander. My friends made the game even more confusing than I thought it would be when we tried to play together and said to go to the card shop they go to. I went to the card shop to try and learn but they had me talk to a guy that basically told me to try the computer game despite us haveing two good games. Should I really be playing the computer game magic or does everyone I know hate me?

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>>97481517
>does everyone I know hate me?

>>97481517
They probably just don't want to be your teacher and don't realize you want to play because you want to play *with them*.
If you just wanted to play the game but didn't know the full rules and everything, the online game is automated so it would be easier for you.

Just emphasize that you want to play the game because you like spending time with them and you'll pick up the rules over time. The game isn't that complicated. Maybe watch some gameplay on youtube so you can see how they handle phases, steps, and triggers, and how some universal mechanics work. Ultimately you should be enjoying the game enough that you wouldn't mind watching some other people play.

>>97481517
Arena's tutorials are very good for learning the basics of the game and a lot of the more complex interactions can be made easier to understand by seeing them represented visually. It's good for learning priority and the stack, for example, because the game will show you at what points you're allowed to act.
It isn't perfect with several things often shortcut for convenience and some complex interactions that come up rarely not really explained, but it will give you a foundational understanding that will make games go more smoothly.

>>97481517
Learning via commander can be challenging since it's it's a FFA format and there's a lot more factors to consider at any given time. Arena is good for learning what cards do and how things work especially since it's an automated simulator

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"this crazy bitch to my right"

>>97481574
>>97481565
>Arena is good for learning what cards do and how things work especially since it's an automated simulator
Thats basically what he said but I thought he was calling me stupid

>>97481546
I just want to be involved

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>>97480791
>TQ:
Bello for turning all my junk ass do nothing enchantments into something.

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>>97480791
>TQ
I play him as stupid big ramp and I love it

>>97481586
Players who start with commander are notoriously bad with the rules. Last year they made a change to how damage is assigned to blocking creatures and I saw tons of post on various sites from people who said they thought the new simplified way was how it always worked.
People who start with yugioh often think that the stack is like the chain in that once it starts resolving new things can't be added to it or that you can only respond to the most recent thing added to it.
Playing with someone who doesn't know the rules means either stopping the game every other turn to explain basic interactions or you sitting there without knowing what's happening. I've played with new people before, and either way someone is going to get frustrated.

>>97481455
>Goad the ones that want to attack
Have you even real the conversation you're jumping into?

>this card might not pay off as much as you think because it triggers when a creature you goaded attacks and it is hard to keep them goaded in those colors
>actually it triggers when a creature you enchanted attacks even if not goaded
>you're right but that won't change much because in most cases they will just choose not to attack then
>WHAT IF THEYRE GONNA ATTACK TO WIN THE GAME HUH????
>that's clearly not the scenario we're talking about
>YOU GET TO CHOOSE WHAT TO GOAD!!!!!
See the start of the fucking conversation

>faglord supreme izzet player puts offer you can't refuse onto a scepter.
>I'm helping you bro buy giving you ramp!
>Counters everything anyway with different spells
>Keeps recycling his counters out of his graveyard into his library or back into his hand
>Finally get rid of the scepter though it doesn't really matter as all he is doing is playing counters,
>Another player somehow gets spiderpunk onto the board
>Play my grand abolisher so I could combo off.
>Guy tries to counter it
>He's been spamming counter spells all game
>Just look at him dead in the eyes.
>"It resolves"
>Notices I put GA onto my Battlefield instead of into my graveyard.
>He asks what I'm doing
>"Spells can't be countered."
>Then I want to take it back because if he knew that he wouldn't have crifted instead.
>Flatly tell him no.
>You should have reminded me!
>Flatly tell him its not my job to remind him of the board state and its not even my effect that is stopping it from not being able to be countered.
>Says I'm going against the spirit of the format
>Tell him to suck it up and then combo off for the win.
Controltards, not even once.

>>97481629
>People who start with yugioh often think that the stack is like the chain in that once it starts resolving new things can't be added to it
So THAT'S why that one guy insisted on that in one of my games haha. I explained to him that if that was how that works than split second spells would become so much more important.

>>97481728
why do combo players write like theyre a toddler being denied a toy

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Suggestions for making thise dude head an artifact deck?

>>97481747
just tutor reaver cleaver

>>97481747
Why would you see this effect and think "artifacts"

>>97481649
This is very embarrassing for you. Following from the start (which i did) doesnt change my sentiment, nor does it make it wrong.
>win
I mentioned other things :) people play draw spells into Smothering Tithe, they play non creatures into remora etc. Each player NEEDS to advance their gamestate or they lose. And yes if I have some attack trigger that lets me cheat out a permanent or maybe draw 2+ cards or literally anything I need, I will give you that card to do so. And any good player will as well (see cedh games)
>scenario we are talking about
Yes it is? The scenario is about using the commander and how it functions. Youre fucking retarded. Also blocked so dont waste my time

>>97481736
I've seen so many people saying their group has played that way for years before someone new shows up and explains how it really works. Ironically I think the misconception might mostly come from magic players who are only vaguely aware of the chain and don't know about that rule telling yugioh players that the stack is the same thing.

>>97480791
>none of the commanders I play are on the top 100
>somehow, Yawgmoth isn't on the top 100

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>>97480791
>TQ: What's your favorite commander from the EDHREC top 100 list?
I love this lil homie like you wouldn't believe.

>>97481763
You're way too stupid to be this smug.

>if I have some attack trigger that lets me cheat out a permanent or maybe draw 2+ cards or literally anything I need, I will give you that card to do so
Again, a carefull crafted scenario. 99% of the time, attacking with a creature does not do that and it is not worth letting your opponent draw to attack.

>>97480791
>TQ: What's your favorite commander from the EDHREC top 100 list?
I'm an EDH hipster, so I only have two out of my 14 decks in the top 100.
>Choco
>Xyris
I used to have a Kaalia deck when I got the Commander precons back in 2011. Took it apart because people didn't like playing against it, understandably. I'm surprised she became so popular.

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>>97480885
>>97481058
Listen here Chuds

What you are referring to is called the “Male Gaze” and it’s a tool of bigotry and white supremacy. It doesn’t matter that white people are only 6% of the human race.

Enjoy the immigrants and the future is female.

>>97481833
Combat and attack triggers are two of the most common mechanics in the game. Combat damage is the most common wincon. Its not "carefully constructed" its an example of a VERY COMMON INTERACTION. Whats carefully constructed is this fantasy land where 0 of your 3 opponents have a single creature they want/need to attack with yo develop their board. Awful awful player.
>99% of the time they dont
AHAHAHA GENUINELY AWFUL

>>97481862
>Combat and attack triggers are two of the most common mechanics in the game.
BECAUSE THEY USUALLY DON'T DRAW YOUR OPPONENTS CARDS
AS SOON AS THEY DO YOU THINK ABOUT WHETHER IT'S WORTH IT
MOST ATTACK TRIGGERS ARE DOO-DOO GARBAGE AND YOU KNOW THIS, THAT'S WHY YOU HAD TO MAKE YOUR EXAMPLES TO ABSURD LIKE WINNING THE GAME OR CHEATING SHIT INTO PLAY

>>97481858
I wish white people were even less of the population. Evolutionary dead ends should be put out to pasture.

>>97481762
Because i have a shitload of artifact cards and I want to make a deck with the red ones.

>>97481843
>Choco
Honestly surprised at how well he's performed, though I should definitely had seen it coming
>have a bunch of birds/bird tokens out
>swing with a lot of them
>get 5+ free lands every turn
>all these fucking landfall triggers godDAMN
>windmill slamdunk all these fucking cards down with like 20 goddamned lands
It's great fun

>>97481867
>retard lashes out cause hes wrong
There are like 50k unique cards. Yes lots of triggers suck, people dont put those ones in their deck.
>absurd
In my combat triggers deck literally every creature draws cards, removes enemy pieces, or cheats stuff into play. I would attack with all of these still even if it drew you a card. You are so bad at this game its genuinely hard to believe you aremt trolling.
>KELLAN ONLY DRAWS ONE CARD OFF GOADED ATTACKERS
>actualy its draws off any attacker you enchanted
>WELL NO ONE WOULD EVER DO THAT NUHUH
>here are some common triggers people definitely would do that for
>CAREFULLY CONSTRUCTED!!!! NO FAIR!!!! MY ARGUMENT WHERE THERE ARE NO GOOD TARGETS? NOT CAREFULLY CONSTRUCTED XD SUPER FAIR
>youre a retard anon
This is our conversation btw you are awful atmagic

>>97481903
>Yes lots of triggers suck, people dont put those ones in their deck.
Good triggers still become worse when they also say "and your opponent draws a card"

You're either retarded or trolling, I don't care which I'm done with you.

>>97481917
And yet they would still be used. Evidence (which you ignored):
People play draw spells into tithe
People play noncreatures into remora

People will advance their gameplay. Post a deck i am fairly certain you do not play magic.

Giving a single opponent a draw isn't that bad, you just put two of your other opponents behind in card advantage while probably advancing your gameplan. (This is why FFA is unsalvageable and why Rhystic needs to be banned)

>>97481927
>>97481934
Samefag

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This machine kills fascists.

The power of cards scales with your opponents. The better your opponents, the worse it is to give them draws. And if your opponents suck? It doesnt matter.

The funniest part is all I did was correct him and provide examples for when the correction might matter. Kellan cares about enchanted creatures attacking, not goaded ones. And there are circumstances where people will still attack even if it'll draw the Kellan player a card. At which point he started sperging

The funniest part is I play off that I don’t care and that I win and yet I’m the one posting without replying to anyone at all about how not mad I am

The funniest part is if you won you wouldnt give bad advice.

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>TQ
For me, it's Teval.

>>97481995
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>>97481974
>>97481942
samefag shitting up the thread

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>>97480791
>TQ: What's your favorite commander from the EDHREC top 100 list?
I like getting a little foolish at times

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>>97480791
>TQ
Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na

>>97482038
I still have no idea how you're supposed to play him or how you're supposed to win. Do you just always want to have 0-1 cards in hand at all times? Is the gameplan just "spend all your mana every turn and draw your entire deck ASAP"?

>>97482047
I'm still so mad we didn't get more radiation stuff in EoE. I want to build him but there's not enough rad counter support, and cheesing it with a dozen proliferates every turn sounds so lame

>>97481728
>bragging about not reminding your opponent of the board state in a casual game and not allowing a quick rollback
weird flex but ok

>>97482092
He doesn't need radiation outside of the one he provides each turn. Drop him with any mill engine out and hold up protection while he grows himself.

>>97482106
>not accepting you made a mistake and suffering the consequences in a casual game
cuts both ways

>>97481747
Equipment with attack triggers, plus generic artifact support for them.
That's enough to justify a general artifact theme.

>>97482106
>wanting himself and others to remain as shitty plays forever because he expects a do-over for ever oopsie-poopsie fucky-wucky he makes.
weird flex but okay

>>97482119
>not accepting you made a mistake
He did though. He asked for a quick rollback so he could pay a different spell because he recognized his mistake.
>suffering the consequences in a casual game
It's a casual game. Have you never had to take a play back because the board was clogged before and you missed a trigger or didn't notice an effect in play?
You're expecting professional level play out of some guy at a casual table because you're salty about being interacted with. Get over yourself.

>>97482152
That's not accepting your mistake, thats whining and begging you shouldn't have to accept your mistake.

>>97482152
It's just bait

>>97482178
>anything thing that pushes against my beliefs is bait
So we have "i shouldn't have to live with my mistakes" and flat out a denial of reality.
Congrats, you're an idiot.

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>>97480791
Meren by default since nothing else makes the cutoff.
Also post decks

>>97482106
>>97482152
Why do zoomers make everything worse?
>oh youre gunna win the game? Aha I made a mistake lemme roll that back real quick B)
>have you ever
If i make a mistake, i live with it. How else will I improve as a player? Furthermore how are you accepting your mistakes if youre demanding they be erased.

>>97482152
>It's a casual game.
yeah so losing a card because [I] was too stupid to read cards isn't a big deal and i can tank the loss. it cuts both ways.

>>97482197
>ritual of the machine
My man

>>97482152
>Its a casual game
>That's why I need a take back so I can win and you can't.

I'm honestly tired of the gaslighting angle-shooting of "its just a causal game bro"

Any commanders that are about sacrificing your stuff that are NOT tokens?

>>97482310
crybullies dominate the format

>>97482109
I don't want to build mill, I want to build radiation. Mill is just the by-product of radiation. I want a "poison your opponents and let the damage-over-time slowly kill them" experience

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Looking for input on this Howler list
>https://archidekt.com/decks/19526681/notstorm
My goal for it was to make those treasure producing tormenting voice cards go mana positive and rifle through my deck until I hit an extra combat spell and make a beater big enough to hit for lethal, but I'm overloaded on tormenting voice cards and am trying to decide what cuts to make. Want to make my turn feel like desperate dig to see if I can even swing or not. And this is gonna be bracket too, hence why its a cheap list. I know I can run the medallions, choosing not to cause of budget
I'm thinking I should cut all the instants that only pitch one card at a time first

>>97482364
Mothman isn't the commander for that kind of deck. He gets big too fast for anyone to be dying slowly. I guess you could do some combination of blink and clones as the closest thing, but unless you're actively choosing not to put the counters on him you can't really avoid the deck wanting to end the game with combat damage. Not counting the cEDH version with food chain, that is.

>>97482086
I made one when he came out and just put a bunch of play extra land and impulse draw effects. It basically just plays like a landfall storm deck and my friends hate it.
https://archidekt.com/decks/8788156/flubs

>>97482004
What kind of Teval do you play?

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>>97482339

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>>97482364
Maybe do something like red pingers?

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>>97482420
>Mothman isn't the commander for that kind of deck
His other ability would be completely ignored. He's the de facto best commander for this kinda deck because most of the radiation cards are in his colors. I'd only use him because he's there to be used, I wouldn't build the deck to make him the center of focus
>you can't really avoid the deck wanting to end the game with combat damage
The wincon would 100% be "killed via radiation damage" and barely anything else. Combat damage would only help get to that point. I have an Ognis haste tribal deck and dumping 30+ treasures into Nuclear Fallout is one of the greatest things ever

>>97482086
There's a couple different ways to play him but it all revolves around becoming hellbent and non-deterministically playing a shitton of cards. It's honestly pretty fun to build and play but will put the rest of the table to sleep as you take long as fuck turns

i dont wanna have to redo a lot of my amalia deck, but i really wanna make astarion the commander, but the deck doesnt synergize with him

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>>97481728
>>Says I'm going against the spirit of the format

>>97481728
Putting An Offer You Can't Refuse on an iso scepter is based casual EDH gameplay. Grand Abolisher into combo is gay slop and you were the villain here.

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>>97482270
somehow this card oneshots a player way more than it should

>>97482540
ok

>>97481728
you sound like an annoying person

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This deck absolutely needs a few flashers that redirect/deter combat. The games where it draws too much aggro early it gets deleted because Control Bad, even when my being out of the game is to the detriment of the players going after me.

But I love long-ass games, and this deck is dragging games into the longest slugfests.

>>97481858
Not even white though. I just like hot or cute women.

>>97481728
>"Woah, this is a casual format just for chill sessions"
>Says they guy spamming counter spells on everyone so they likely are barely playing the game
Yeah, I don't get the mentality of people who do this shit. If you are playing control or hard stax, that's not really casual as that's an oppressive competitive deck type in general.
Not that it doesn't have a place on commander, but you lose the right to argue it's just casual when you clearly want to make everyone have a bad time.

>>97482653
Counters only make you an enemy if your opponents don't know how to play around them. A single iso scepter counter per turn rotation (which gives two treasures to the caster in question) isn't even a good play. Makes me wonder what the fuck the other players were even doing.

>>97481586
>>97481517
Are you a girl?

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>>97482622
She's not good, awful even, but she's trying her best.

>>97482441
>He's the de facto best commander for this kinda deck because most of the radiation cards are in his colors.
He's actually terrible for rad counters. Frank Horrigan or Xavier are strictly better because proliferate is stronger for rad counters.

>>97481517
Commander is by far the worst way to learn how to play. If no one is willing to teach you one on one with prebuilt decks, it's not a bad suggestion to hop on Arena and going through the tutorial and playing some Jumpstart events.

>>97481517
So EDH/commander is rough to start learning because it involves practically evrey card ever printed. You can learn on it, but your friends need to bring low-power jank decks and teaching/showing people how to do things is hard especially for autistic nerds.

The mobile/computer game Arena is good because it's a smaller amount of cards and can teach the basics pretty quickly, and can be tried for free.

Alternatively, ask your friends specifically to play some starter/learner games with you and walk you through the basics.

>>97482653
>that's not really casual as that's an oppressive competitive deck type in general
Next you'll be telling us that aggro is actually also really good and way too opressive in commander.

>>97482653
stax is not competitive, it's terrible in cedh.

>>97480818
Killian isn't a replacement it's a 99 addition.

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>>97482339
the one and only

>>97481517
I don't know you but I hate you.

>>97482934
Well I don't know you but I hate him too.

>>97481858
Greasy brown hands typed this post

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If I have Galian Beast on board and cast a successful board wipe, when Galian Beast returns face up as Vincent will he see the deaths of my opponent's cards and trigger?

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>>97482622
12 cents my nigga

>hurr durr commander is hard to learn as a new player because of large board states
nigga the entire game is hard to learn for a new player, it really doesn't matter where you start. the only real difference between edh and regular magic is the multiplayer aspect, where people diplo constantly, meaning that you even get constant hints about the board state from other players if you are new. I play with literal sub 70 IQ subhuman gorillas and comprehending big board states is not one of their problems.

>>97483028
gallan dies, along with all other creatures
gallans trigger goes on stack
gallans trigger resolves
all creatures are already dead

>>97483069
That's what I figured but I wanted to make sure. I've never played with auto regenerators before so I wasn't 100% sure.

>>97483046
>press X to doubt
Dont be silly.

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Help, which would make me the most not homofag

I FUCKING HATE MONO WHITE!!!! JUST STALLING THE ENTIRE GAME UNTIL YOU HAVE 3000 LIFE IS A GAY WAY TO PLAY!!!

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>Order tainted remedy
>It arrives
>Go to the lgs
>But a single pack because why not
>crack this
FORFUCKSAKE

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>>97483410
>as soon as I pull two of these I lose track of where my stranglehold is

>>97480969
>the artist never drew a background for it
That is literally not an excuse anymore in this world of AI art. It's one thing to use it for the foreground, but backgrounds are basically perfected technology at this point.

>>97483410
>tutor enchantment removal
nothin personnel, kid

>>97482106
He has autism, just be proud he at least gets out of the house occasionally.

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>>97480851
This deck's problem is that it expects you to cast all these 6 cmc artifacts and creatures that ask 8 energy for something, not realizing what made Temur Energy in Standard back in the day so dumb was that in only asked 2-3 pips of energy to do something stupid. You have no way to ramp up effectively too. Compare that to the Satya deck where it goes for a more control route and you have cards like Localized Destruction in there. Pretty obvious the DFT precons were just as half assed as the main set was

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>>97483495
>AI backgrounds
You called?

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>>97483349
My mono white likes to basically make myself unkillable and untouchable without you killing me in one hit.

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>>97480791
>TQ: What's your favorite commander from the EDHREC top 100 list?
Having quickly checked, I don't have any decks built around a top 100 commander. The closest is Windgrace at #173.

I have been thinking about building an angels deck with the foil Giada I pulled at the SNC prerelease though so that would put me well into the Basic Bitch Zone.

>>97482429
Self-Mill/Graveyard/Reanimator Teval. I can makes lots of Zombie Druid tokens that way. Also, the deluge of lands helps me cast big spells.

>>97483574
Yeah exactly, I'd take that shit any day when the alternative is maliciously intentional ugly art.

>>97483349
Not true, some mono white is aggro, Voltron or tokens or big creatures like angles.

>>97483333
Kindbinding, because Cathar's Crusade is always played by drooling retards who can't track their counters properly and I don't know what the custom card on the left does.

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>>97483657
>Custom card

>>97483667
time to play the game?

>>97483667
Rooms are arena design and I do not count them as real magic cards.

>>97483696
Its okay for you to deny reality in your personal life, but you need to accept your delusions are delusions.

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>>97483034
>>97482703
The problem is how "worth it" those effects are, and it's hard to gauge. Because they go from saving your ass to doing absolutely nothing.

>>97483333
Kinbinding because Lorwyn is the least gay plane of those featured. Then the Stranger Things plane, then the Twilight plane as the gayest of the three (naturally).

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>>97483657
>drooling retards who can't track their counters properly
You play with people that don't use dice?

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Im having a bit too much fun with this deck. It's very successful when running equipment, protection, and ring triggers. It feels a bit like a solo infiltration for Frodo, which is cool and I love.

But for people without removal, this is a very unfun card with short games. What are some commanders I could run for a stealth-esque experience that's a bit more chill for people?

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Building a talrand deck as part of an effort to make the most quintessential mono colored decks. Whats some funny mono blue jank to throw in this that never gets to work anywhere else?

New to the format, so there are cards that essentially do the same thing as other cards. What is the attitude around running both (or more), and if it is frowned upon, what are some examples where it wouldn't be?

>>97483884
I don't know about jank but what about astral dragon and go for dragon token spam

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>>97483887
That's just consistency. There might be some purist here who insists its not EDH unless its a 100 card chaff pile but in my opinion, finding a mechanic that has enough support to be a pattern but is too weird to work in other formats is what the spirit of EDH is all about. This is my list that is all about turning spitemare creatures into damage reflectors for my own spells cause I really love spitemare effects
>https://archidekt.com/decks/18185275/railgun
When you design a deck around a specific interaction you want to make happen, it makes a good deck

is pantlaza fun or does it get boring fast

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>>97483884
blocks you're path

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>>97483932
Already got him. Am more looking for things like Floodgate which you wouldn't see outside of a monoblue deck thats getting played amongst friends

>>97483924
So whats the line with consistency is it all just vibes, like running wizard lighting and lighting?

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>>97483943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN1RJF55NXI

>>97483887
Like Llanowar Elves and Fyndhorn Elves? Nobody will give a shit about this, ever. Play them all.

If your deck is 60 counterspells and 39 lands? Fuck you, because what are you even doing?

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>>97483953
Wizard's lightning and lightning bolt would be completely fine man, nobody would have a problem with that. In fact it's cool to see how your strategy would make wizard's lightning playable. The 1-of-every-card restriction isn't a philosophical tenant, its how you make a consistent deck IN SPITE of that singleton restriction that makes the process cool
>>97483982
This guy said it better
>>97483970
This shit is actually hilarious, and its in common too so I can put it in my pEDH deck. Awesome pick

>>97480791
>tq
Squeaked in at 97. I love chocobos that's really it

>>97481728
>playing with strangers

Surge foils are so fucking ugly why do faggots soiface fornthem

>>97483581
>I don't have any decks built around a top 100 commander.
That wasn't the question though. It was which your favorite was. Whether you built it or not is irrelevant

Dumb Chad

>>97484170
This but "old" borders

>>97483887
It's more like common sense really. Most cards you'll see used by most people, especially modern ones, boil down to, "do thing, get effect." Of course if you have a very specific strategy in mind you'll use "duplicates" of whatever thing that is to get the job done if you have access to them. You have a heart of gold, don't let any "cookie cutter" arguments take that away from you.

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I want to build her, is she fun?

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>>97483932
Wow this is like a glow-up version of the virgin that's often paired with that Chad.

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>>97480791
>TQ: What's your favorite commander from the EDHREC top 100 list?
WEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLL

>>97484170
I would soiface to a valuable surge foil because then that means I could easily trade it away for a bunch of normal cards like God intended.

>>97484346
HE AIN'T MY BOY BUT THE BROTHA IS HEAVY

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>>97480791
>TQ
The queen of EDH

skullbriar or yurlok for my next deck

>>97484364
Skullbriar with a sticker voltron package

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>>97484352
GAVE AWAY MY POSSESSIONS AND MOVED INTO A CHEVY

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>>97484363
>new to EDH again after decade hiatus
>find out about this card
>perfect aggro keywords, proliferate, and the best colors, don't like red except for WoF
>I could use all planeswalkers and the best board wipes and counterspells and it would be perfect
>find out this is one of the most popular commanders and everyone already does that

FUCK. A commander like this didn't exist when I first played and now I'm FUCKED.

>>97484384
Why do Goblins and Gremlins always have sharp little shivs and look like they are about to stab a mf?

>>97484386
You're dodging a bullet anyway. Commander players are horrible at threat assessment and will gun down Atraxa players before anyone else.

>>97484386
You'd be fucked anyway. It's not a question of timing, it's just that you have basic bitch taste.

>>97484404
And what do you like?

>>97484364
>Skullbriar when Auntie and a -1/-1 counter focused set just came out
You're cruisin' for a bruisin', m8

>>97484404
>it's just that you have basic bitch taste.
How so? Back when I first played EDH, there wasn't enough planeswalkers to even really build a "superfriends" deck, and if there was it was prohibitively expensive because all the planeswalkers were expensive. ALL OF THEM. So you'd need all of them, then a five color general, and there as only a handful of them, then you'd definitely need all the fetches, duals and shocks to make it even remotely playable. I just couldn't justify it back then, but always dreamed of playing a deck where you just had a bunch of plansewalkers out and got to slowly build up your board state, having all these options each turn and watching everyone squirm.

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>mostly just play grixis, mardu, mono red and mono white
>don't really have any green cards
>decide to make sultai commander
>copying a decklist for a bracket 2/3 ramp/recursion/counters slop pile is a fucking grand
why the everliving fuck is every playable green card $50?

>>97484453
If I had to venture a guess I'd say Amulet Titan being a dominant modern deck, and that needs green cards.

>>97484339
Hermes is a turbo virgin. He had to create bird loli tulpas to fuck because he was too much a pussy to talk to women. He also unironically turns into the chud billions must die wojak the second he gets any pushback.
Great card though. WotC being too chicken to print Meteion tokens was funny though.

>>97484444
none of my friends play blight stuff, im the only person who built morcant

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Which card would you cut for Natural Order, and why? I can't decide...

https://archidekt.com/decks/14384222/azusa_lost_but_46_land

>>97484547
Triumph easily. Few of your cards guarantee wide boards, and when you do have one Craterhoof is better for being a tutor target.

>>97484547
How about Rofellos you cheating faggot?

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>>97484446
Planeswalkers in EDH aren't great, the other 3 people tend to just swing at them to take them off them out or just as a "guilt free" target for the board they amass
What you actually want for that style of deck isn't a commander that proliferates or powers them up further, it's unironically a pillowfort one

>>97481164
Then do so? What's stopping you?

>>97484571
I've been testing out banned cards to test their power level. I switch them out if someone isn't ok with it.

>>97484566
I win probably 1/3 of my game due to that card. Honestly I was almost thinking about Seedborn Muse, just because I hardly win by taking out one opponent and then needing defense. Sylvan Tutor is my other choice, as even though it's cheaper, it doesn't cheat it into play.

>Dumb slut, 2RW
>Haste
>Tap: Dumbslut does damage equal her power to target creature. When a creature is dealt damage this way, you may pay 2, if you do, dumb slut becomes a copy of that creature except they have this ability.
>Whenever a creature you control is dealt lethal noncombat damage, gain that much life.
>2/2
This is a boros card or a mardu card?

>Annex Familiar, {W/B}
>Artifact Creature - Phyrexian Bird
>Flying
>Sacrifice Annex Familiar: Counter target instant or sorcery unless its controller pays {phyrexian white}.
>1/1

qtpt 1WR
creature - human citizen
when qtpt enters, you and target vote to kiss, if kiss wins more votes you both kiss and win the game

>Big Chad Chud (BRW)
>Orc Warrior Mercenary
>Bad Chad Chud can't be sacrificed
>Hexproof
>tap: destroy target creature controlled by another target player. Create 3 tapped treasure tokens. That player gains control of Big Chad Chud.
>3/3

>>97484591
I think this is a selesnya card

>>97483696
Take off your pink and blue thigh highs because we don't consider you a real woman.

Tournament! 1WR
Sorcery
The players split into groups of two and each play a subgame of magic the gathering. The winners of those subgames play subgames play games with the winners of subgames until one player has won the most subgames. That player wins the game.

What are some good commanders for a Christian/religion themed deck?

>cheap cards I want aren't available
Fuck man don't want to order a couple singles online and get raped by shipping.

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>>97484766
>Christian/religion themed

>>97484768
Ever considered not being a broke bitch living outside of the US like a fag?

>>97484672
Why though?

>>97480791
Hmm quite a few. Makes sense for the precon ones.
Top 100 - Y'shtola, Sauron, Nekusar, Hakbal, Necrobloom, Hashaton, Caesar, K'rrik, Atraxa, Grand Unifier, Sisay, Weatherlight Captain, Marneus Calgar, Stella Lee
Non Top 100 - Lucea Kane, Anrakyr, Abaddon, Drafna, Auntie Ool, Kambal, Profiteering Mayor, The Mimeoplasm, Megatron, Terra, Herald of Hope, Terra, Magical Adept, Momir Vig, Endrek Sahr, Zedruu, Ellivere, Teval, Arbiter of Virtue, Prossh, Tawnos, Winota

I might have one or two more I never play.

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>>97480791
>What's your favorite commander from the EDHREC top 100 list?

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What's the best colorless 1mv grave hate artifact?

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I just realized my most played deck is unironically a control deck with no wincons

>>97484842
Depends. Either
>Soul-Guide Lantern
>Ghost Vacuum
>Stone of Erech

>>97484842
pauperbros...

>>97484842
I like Soul-Guide Lantern the best because it saves my graveyard.

>>97481747
Shouldn't it be "marked by fire and reborn in water"?

>>97480791
>TQ
Easily Teval, although Kuja barely hanging in at 100 makes me want to say him since he's the only Rakdos commander I didn't instantly take apart. He'll probably be overtaken by Etali soon.

>>97484802
the activated ability is a bite stapled to a clone, which is UG. haste is in green.
the last ability is white (aggressively anti-red).

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>shocks will never be cheaper than they are right now
>own none
>should just buy one of each and be done with it
>still have the urge to get a lorwyn box instead because i might get multiple

>>97484957
You won't get multiple. You might not even get one. Don't buy a box unless you're planning to draft it.

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>>97484957
I mean, I could see them dipping farther

>>97484766
Muscle Jesus with vaguely religious Bant stuff. Just say "Jesus saves" whenever you use his regenerate.

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>>97484981
>>97484766
Forgot pic.

>>97484952
Seconding

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>>97484983
>>97484981
That's... actually not a bad idea, dude

>>97485007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIkBJruoxG8
Here's a quote mine for when you play it out.

How do I destigmatize myself when it comes to "high quality" cards for my archetype? Not generic shit like Rhystic, but things like Storm-Kiln Artist in a spellslinger deck or Viscera Seer in aristocrats, things that have a niche but are almost universally played in that niche

>>97485028
What does this gibberish even mean

>>97485028
you deleted some info when you were editing your post, or something. what's the stigma exactly? you want to use these cards in other archetypes? you want to stop hating them for no reason? what are you stigmatizing?

>>97485007
Bant also lets you run a lot of angels.
And more importantly, Crusade.

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>>97485037
>>97485045
I'm retarded sorry
I mean I feel some irrational aversion to using them. If I'm putting together an aristocrats deck I get the urge to not put Zulaport and Blood Artist in there simply because they're too blatantly good and in every single deck so it feels paint-by-numbers, and I end up making the deck worse just to have an excuse to not use them
I understand this is stupid but do not understand why I feel it in the first place

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>>97484766
>your commander is the demiurge

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>>97484944
It exists though

>>97485076
oh, whoops, I thought you were >>97484591. not sure how I didn't see that properly.

>>97485073
Begone Gnostic

I want to make a sea monsters deck for all the usual Simic stuff but also Sultai for the Dimir things like Wrexial and Runo. How would you suggest building for a casual, mana-greedy deck besides good giant dudes and a paranoid amount of ramp? I'll even reluctantly sub out Sin as a convenient type-themed commander if it helps get the ball rolling.

>>97480818
Just run nuKillian in the 99 as a CA engine you can draw.

>>97485142
BASED

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>>97484766
Wrong game, Christcuck

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Holy fucking based...

>>97485200
now post the ff6 cid

>>97484957
I bought 2 of each of the double sided ones and have 0 regrets. Only wish the EoE shocks were better looking.

>>97484453
If it's good in standard and mythic, $20. If it says the words "double" or "twice" it will be $40 eventually because those words cause a Pavlovian reaction in commander players that makes them drool and take out the wallet.

>>97484573
>Planeswalkers in EDH aren't great, the other 3 people tend to just swing at them to take them off them out or just as a "guilt free" target for the board they amass
The amount of games I've won in my Amanatou deck because people swung at her to prevent her ult that I'm never going to use is staggering.

>>97485417
distraction carnifex

>>97484453
What crack are you smoking? Green is notorious for having some of its best cards at common and uncommon?m. Theres only a couple dozen really excellent green cards that break the bank

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>>97485412
>If it says the words "double" or "twice" it will be $40 eventually
+1 master race reporting in
still too expensive imo

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Does anyone else just feel empty whenever they look at new sets? It really feels like the "unlimited games but no games" where we're getting 6+ sets a year but 99% of the cards fall into the same loop of already-explored design space. So many creatures now are setup and payoff on the same card to the degree it feels like WotC is afraid of asking the player to do anything. It feels like it's all just endless snowballing valueslop. Looking at cards now consistently makes me ask "why does this have a second effect when the first one was already strong enough to be a build-around?"
It never feels like something new either. Wow simic big mana. Never saw that one before. The powercreep feels so blatant because the design niche is exactly the same as over a dozen other cards. So many commanders now can just be swapped around in the same deck for almost no real playstyle change. So much shit has to be removed instantly now or it will snowball out of control and it really just makes me wonder what it's all in service of. New sets don't make me feel excited. They just make me question what I even like about the game.

>>97485602
Then stop playing if new sets make you feel that way. Either the feelings will pass and you'll want to play Magic again or they won't, which means it's time to leave for good. Why resist?

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>>97485690
maybe he's a WOTC shareholder suing the company

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>>97485602
It's sobering to see long requested things like a Jund -1/-1 counters commander finally come into existence and it's done in the most brainless way possible that creates no new angle for the archetype, just an engine to feed it cards.

>>97485602
>99% of the cards fall into the same loop of already-explored design space

This is a good thing adhdtard. It's impossible to keep making new shit without it either becoming horribly unbalanced or total garbage nobody pays attention to (which is what's already happened in this game).

The problem is they kept re-releasing shit for the same few deck types. Artifactfags and counterfags and graveyardfags and landfallfags eat good several times a year.

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This is not a $20 card
This is not good in Standard
It is too situational and dependent on playing elementals
It will be a $1.50 Commander card in 2 months once parasitic """investors""" have realized that just because a card saw tournament play doesn't mean they should jack up the price.

>>97485602
I only looking at new sets for upgrades for my budget decks. Especially if they use weird mechanics.

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>be me
>have no hobbies or pass times besides ©Magic the Gathering
>get burnt out on the game
>instead of taking an extended break or leaving entirely I remain as an unpleasant tumor constantly complaining about how new cards are being made for newer/still interested players instead of unpleasable burnt out hipster pseuds like me

wew glad none of you bros are like this though!

>>97485797
Imagine crying this much about other people voicing their dislike for something.
How about you take your own advice?
You're burnt out on /edhg/ you should take an extended break or leave entirely

whenever you do the thing draw a card
whenever you draw a card do the thing

whenever an opponent does a thing draw a card
whenever an opponent draws a card do a thing

>>97485786
Oh shit it's whelming wave

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>>97485821
Investors gonna whale tho

>>97485797
I do this and I act like this unironically while being not burned out by magic and while having a million other hobbies.
Maybe the problem is people like (you), anon. Living in denial about the truth.

>>97485797
Based. Look at the called out faggots getting asshurt

>>97485869
>screaming into the void complaining about something you are literally in the process of doing
>"haha!!! so based!!!!!"
Samefag?

>>97485819
Found the white player.

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>>97480791
I hate to admit it but y'shtola is one of the most fun decks I have ever piloted

>>97485883
Get next day delivery on those programming socks, nonny

Made some edits to my deck for future testing before bed.
Dreamed that the edits were all excellent and made my deck 100x smoother.

>>97484435
I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price.

>>97484397
>horrible at threat assessment and will gun down Atraxa players before anyone else.
>t. Butthurt atraxa player

>>97482416
my input is to focus less on beaters/creatures in your deck and entirely on doing a voltron.
your gimick only works with howler out anyhow, so you might as well focus entirely on him.
i'd recommend some enchantments that make him unblockable, flying, and/or make non-legendary copies. one of my funniest commander games ended when I smacked my friend with a unblockable 42-power captain howler (who began the turn with 6 power).

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>>97482416
>input
>>97486024
>input

Put it in, put it in, put it...in! Great job! You did it!

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Scooped up Blight Curse and I refuse to pay $10 for a niche uncommon, any advice on if/when the prices will normalize?

>>97485752
Auntie Ool was indeed a lame and gay dissapointment. I instead built an Oros blight deck with chaff because I liked slumbering walker and reaping willow the most out of all the blight synergy in new lorwyn. It's absolute dogshit but putting a blight sickle on Oros to put counters on stuff is pretty funny in shitty bracket 2 games.

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Alright /edh/ what's your most fun commander? I'm looking at making a new deck and looking for something fun. My most fun is probably Aikido Marchesa just because no two games look the same

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>your LGS opens a bar
What do you order at commander night?

>>97485752
While I agree about Auntie, I’m moderately okay with The Reaper, King No More just because it has a restriction on the theft ability. In all fairness a decent part comes from thinking Scarecrows as a type are peak soul

>>97485772
>this is a good thing
>because its hard to do otherwise
What a retarded post. Remember, when given the opportunity, zoomers will simp for corporations every time.

>>97485199
*Tips fedora*

>>97485786
>a 2-4 mana 5/5 with flying that clears your opponents board is bad!
Its hilarious watching dogshit edh players talk about this game. Its not EDH singleton, you have 60 cards, 4. Copies of stuff. If you want to create a certain boardstate, you design your deck so that it'll appear most games.

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>>97483884
Actually perfect synergy with this card

>>97486061
>I refuse to pay $10 for a good uncommon that's a key part of many combo decks.
>When will this combo card be cheaper?
Lol. Lmao even.

>>97486061
>if/when the prices will nromalize?
When it gets reprinted in a set or precon

>>97486107
>>a 2-4 mana
It's isn't 2-4 mana unless you already have a 5-7 mana elemental on board. How often does that happen in Standard?

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>>97486045
I thought wanting input meant wanting advice or help, as in you wanted our advice regarding howler as commander.
Nevermind, I guess.

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Diceroll tribal seems like such a retarded deck but I really want to make it