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ANOTHER COMBINE THREAD FOR THE COORDINATOR

For a periphery colony or colony collective, what is the better path for ease of manufacture. Having a mech engine with a tech rating of C and structure as tech rating D. Or the reverse? My gut says the lower tech engine. Another question is when generally would tech E components spread out past the major periphery nations? Specifically DHS and endo steel? I know endo in particular will require orbital facilities.

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Submitted for your disapproval a Warhammer. Do not inspect closely.

>97493511
>97493525
That looks bad.

>>97493545
>40K.
>90 Tons.
>2/5/0
You took a Warhammer to Triple F Burger and didn't let him out.

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>>97493525

>>97493511
Why even bother keeping the links to 404 pages?

>>97493528
Looking at the examples of Colonial Tractors and Hope Industrial Works, they basically don't ever get full access. By the late dark age they're still using full introtech with a smattering of advanced weapons or armor. With outside help such as from the cappies or specialized engineering firms, they can get more stuff, but that's a lot of importing. Fronc specifically downgraded their homegrown BA project because they didn't want to have to rely on imported clan armor or allow the shart foxes to have a trade enclave inside their borders.

Wait, are the dynasties in the setting just the techbros of today?
>Constantly pushing their fancy new toys
>Authoritarian streaks a mile long with delusions of grandeur
>Wealthy shareholders who would rather LARP as something else

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>>97493607
Tradition at this stage. It took months to fix the PDF trove links last time they needed updating. The ability to read and update links is lostech.

>>97493612
So having some components and a weapon or too is within reason. Outside technical expertise will need to be attained to bootstrap the domestic industry. That seems reasonable.

>>97493620
Always have been since the first monke banged a rock together

>>97493624
Loved the show. Got a Kristen Redmond?

>>97493620
>Wait, are the dynasties in the setting just the techbros of today?
Yes.

>>97493620
No. The great houses were successful in removing all competitors and seizing total power. There is really nothing to compare here.

>>97493635
Yeah, CT started making an X-pulse hover tank and HIW had MMLs and CASE. But most of their output is introtech variants or retrotech.

>>97493511
>>97493525
Looks like shit

>>97493657
Oh, and rockets of course. Everyone in the periphery figures out rockets eventually. I imagine there's a very enterprising group of Marians out selling the idea.

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>>97493553
>>97493659
you do better then you fedrats

>>97493679
>High resolution anime girl.
>Low resolution Dragon-Armor.
Either make the girl Low-Poly or up the polycount on the armor.

>>97493654
You’re living through that reality today.

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I want to go to Solaris VII and see dudes in power armor swing buster swords at people.

Do you still have to lock a base chassis when designing an omni mech in MML?

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>>97493691
it's intentionally low poly as it was originally something I got commissioned. What I've been posting is that model frankensteined onto an anime model
I've contemplated frankenstein-ing the MWO models in the past for something more HQ but the major issue with that is the poly count for the MWO models is insanely high and I have no clue how retexturing the models will work out. More than likely it's gonna be more work than I'd like to deal with.

>>97493730
You could try using the model you have commissioned as a stepping stone to crafting a Medium-Poly Dragon model, something that wouldn't be out of place on the Xbox or in Mechassault. Still high count but not as ultra high quality as MWO's.

>>97493637
Sadly no.
>>97493713
Its what it is for.

>>97493713
The S is available to mercs. Difficult to maintain, though. Might be better to get a Spectre.

>>97493779
Why would a Mercenary company outfit one of their guys in Battle Armor and give him a sword?

>>97493811
Cause fuck you that's why!

>>97493811
Vibro blades get to melee other infantry

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>>97493811

>>97493811
It does have an AP weapon mount, so it can gun down infantry or intruders. It's better than a Tornado at least.

>>97493624
Or only newfags need them and most anons dont give a fuck about newfags.

>>97493857
I keep feeling like PA(L) should be run in larger groups if they're going to actually fight. Like a whole platoon moving together at least. But that looks a lot like cheesing initiative.

>>97493679
>dude you just shit your pants
>well? Do better then
Ok, I'm just not going to shit my pants and post trash then?

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>>97493953
nigger it's a 3D model calm down
apologies for trying to contribute content

>>97493679
>That bulge down the bottom
Wait, I think this model really did shit its pants?

>>97494000
Wouldn't have to go through this if you didn't get so defensive and challenge people, which of course they will reply to.
>this looks bad
>ok

>>97494050
Or even better
>this looks bad
>yes, how could you tell?

>>97493679
Don't worry Anon, I think Dragon-chan's cute

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>>97494050
I'm also bored so that doesn't help
my point is that "thing bad" is already a dumb thing to say as it's neither constructive or insightful
you write something dumb and I write something back until one of us is bored of the conversation
>>97494082
thank you fren

>>97494092
>tranny standee
Okay, time to kill yourself and GTFO faggot.

what non-DCMS mech should we make into a virtual girl? Something to complement Dragon-chan, or to oppose her?

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>>97494126
That's my gdgd fairies shrine you uncultured troglodyte
admittedly it was weird and not frequently talked about but an anime of sorts nevertheless
I let the Lyrans guard the idolm@ster shrine

>>97494150
No, you're a faggot, only a faggot would choose to own a literal tranny standee.

Take me down to Canopus City.
Where the girls are cats with the pumpkin-sized titties.

>>97494092
Then you can just say "fuck off" and end to the conversation by ignoring further replies. Like I will now.

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>>97494092
>>97494150
And I meant this, faggot.

>>97494233
Oof

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>>97494219
No.

>>97494233
are you retarded?

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>>97494248

>>97494233
>>97494092
KEK

>>97494256
Are you a homosexual degenerate?

>>97494219
SensibleChuckle.jpg

>>97494268
I just watch anime dawg
I'm sorry that y'all don't

>>97494287
No, you watch tranime, and THAT is not an anime drawn character, it is an IRL or 3D tranny, faggot.

>>97494304
>THAT is not an anime drawn character, it is an IRL or 3D tranny, faggot.
It's a gag joke in the fuckin show you dingus
look at the other cutouts and you would've caught that
it's gag show
put 2 and 2 together fren

>>97494338
No, whatever your cope about context you have hosen to include tranny faggot bullshit as a part of the entertainment you consume.
Non-degenerates do not do that.

Ladies, please. You're both hideous troglodytes.

Oh my god shut the fuck up all of you.

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So have you ever used aerial beast infantry before?

The Scimitar and Saladin were licensed out, right? That's why they're so common?

>>97494372
You first

How hard is it for pirates to hit dropships on the way too and from a planet?

>>97494389
If I ever get around to an Andurien force, I probably will. I haven't so far because they changed their main color scheme after Jihad so now they don't have any evergreen scheme.

Bring me Cat Girls.

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>>97494489

>>97494474
Intercepting a transiting dropship sounds like a waste of fuel and probably more math than anybody wants to do when you can either lurk at jump points or ambush dropships when they're on the ground.

>>97494389
Goes hard, need to figure a way to model this

>>97494509
Explain this to me, for I wish to know more.

>>97494389
Yes.everyone thought they were cool.

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>>97494541
A Beast Cries in the Wilderness is a Manga featuring humans enhanced with animal genetics operating operationally.

>>97494537
Depending on what you mean, it's already been done. IWM has done Branth infantry models, and numerous sculptors have made minis of scantily clad Heavy Metal type figures. There are countless bikini warriors, and I would not be surprised at all if there were already models of pseudo-sci-fi bikini warriors on flying dragon type mounts in at least 25mm scale.

>>97494644
I normally don't read manga, but I think I will start.

>>97493624
Redrawing the old BT characters sounds fun

>>97494691
I mean specifically the Branth rider perched on an Atlas like a falconer

>>97494233
Lmao

>>97494389
Would be better without femoid on top.

>>97494717
Oh, that would be easy, you just need to find an Atlas with posable arms and then glue a branth to it. The Branth-on-ground model would look more like it's about to launch off, but you could probably kitbash it with the flying model to adjust the legs.

>>97494691
But what about 6mm scale? The best I was able to find were harpies.

Does anyone have the most recent version of the BT LOS diagram that was made here lying about? The one showing the various effects of woods, depending on mech positioning? IIRC it was updated multiple times, and the reference to the most recent BMM printing used changed as a result, which is how you could tell one was newer.

Can anyone suggest a trooper loadout with 20.5 tons of free space. This space will be used for all weapon, equipment, and armor. The chassis moves 3/5 and had 10 SHS in the engine. The only armor choice is primitive. I am fucking struggling here. My first attempt was a LL, 2 ML, a MG and half ton of ammo and the rest into armor.

>>97494890
You'd have to ask NEA. He made it, but he barely posts here anymore. Considering the content of this thread so far, I don't really blame him.
>the branth rider pic is cool tho

>>97494913
Did you try the Marian centurion?

>>97494960
Thats a bit too advanced. But that loadout can probably be used as a good starting point. Thank you for the suggestion.

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>>97494913
TDR-1C Thunderbolt quite literally got you covered.

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>>97494913
>>97495015
>and armor
Nevermind missed that part. Consider the SWD-1 Swordsman instead.

>>97495045
>Called the Swordsman.
>No sword.
I am mildly disappointed, but it still looks cool.

>>97495015
That thing is so good it is literally making me think about abandoning my design goals. Thats a disgustingly good mech for the tech.

Where are all thse primitive designs from an xtro?

>>97494913
10.5t of armor, Large laser, 2x srm4, 1t of ammo. Or a PPC and 1x SRM4.

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>>97495045
It was always a missed opportunity in the Jihad.
>>97495061
There's a fair few primitives that are actually pretty good for what they are. In most cases all they really do is trade speed. I think you might like the Ostwar as well.
I don't think you will get that magic 20.5 tons of free space at 3/5 with primitive by the way outside of maybe dropped to 35 tons. You either get too little or too much weight to play with.
>>97495077
XTRO Primitives, there's five of them.

>>97493528
Depends. Those near the FWL tend to get better stuff due to merchant lords being merchant lords.
Others are pretty much left with last gen tech.
Then you got the Taurians who are just industrial enough to 'almost' keep up. At least in the amount of artillery, missiles, and nukes they can hurt at things.

>>97495150
>It was always a missed opportunity in the Jihad.
Meant for >>97495055

>>97495099
That's pretty close to a Toro?

>>97495181
Yeah I am going through the Primitives XTROs now and I think I am changing my goals. I'll have to read up on the Dallas core next.

>>97494913
2x lrm-5 with 1t of ammo. 4 medium lasers, 11 HS, everything else armor.

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Addhara has fallen following the death of Principes Antonius. Blakist forces swarm across the planet, and the Master's flag flies above the ruined cities of a now ravaged world.
The Marian Hegemony is in full retreat. While pulling back through the devastated city of Algen, the newly promoted Principes Cato is ambushed by the 52nd Shadow Division.
Seeing the routed, disorganised and crippled Hegemony forces as the perfect, low risk, test for the newest weapons being developed on Necromo, Adept Baal pulls the bulk of his forces back. At his command, prototype Word of Blake Protomechs and transports filled with Battle Armour are released into the streets of Algen and once more war fills the dead city. With no choice but to fight through to safety, Cato leads his men into battle.
The Blakists won this one. I had to prevent at least a third of the Marian's from escaping the table and managed to do so while killing Cato. Adept Baal is racking up quite the kill count when it comes to high ranked Marians!
This is the end of our narrative campaign.
Addhara lies in the hands of the Word of Blake, already being reinforced by Circinus Federation troops while the Hegemony flees the world in droves. Baal is now Domini-Regent of Addhara and the Master has commanded him to make preparations for further incursions deeper into the Hegemony.
However, numerous Domini died in this invasion, the Word of Blake Militia are crippled and will certainly be unable to hold the planet without a steady stream of soldiers and supplies from the Circinus Federation. The Protomechs and Battle Armour performed exceptionally, and reports of their success have already been sent to Necromo, although the world has gone strangely silent of late...
It was a victory, but a bloody, hard won victory.
Me and my mate has so much fucking fun doing this. Fitting it in between work was a bitch but it was totally worth it.

>>97495203
May also want to check out XTRO Retrotech as well.

>>97495203
The New Dallas Core has everything made before the Amaris coup, at which point the spooks maintaining it had bigger problems and/or died.

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Here is the Trooper you gentlemen armed for me. If I knew how to get a standard I.C.E. engine in it I would do that. I expect that would free up more tonnage. But I couldn't figure out how to do that in Mega Mek Lab.


>>97495331
I did.
>>97495337
Yeah. I just need to look at when it became available and how its proliferated.

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>>97494890
I have this one for 6th printing of BMM.

>>97495363
I think if you switch the engine to a fission or fuel cell you might be able to drop it to 50 tons?

>>97495408
Without a doubt those are easier to work with. I just want an I.C.E engine.

>>97495420
Is your ICE a V8?

>>97495441
W16 for mechs

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>>97495420
You got to find first gear in your giant robot car.

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>>97495441
It probably needs more cylinders.
>>97495492
My brother in blake where is your button to unlock gears 21-40?

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Really starting to think they missed a trick not doing Mad Max Battletech as an AU over Gothic.

>>97495607
But then we'd maybe have models to proxy Corsair builds, and we can't have nice things

>>97495607
Gothic is actually the closest they've come to madmaxtech since the original bit of fluff that implied nobody was making new mechs at all. The Gothic setting is absolutely fucked, manufacturing wise.

>>97495633
Or have build your own frankemech or piratemech kits.

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Gee Pleiades, how come they get 100 planets?

>>97495706
Didnt the cows steal half of that with nothing but paranoia and nukes?

>>97495706
>star cluster
>100 inhabited systems
Retarded. Every rock in that system should be sterile from the sheer amount of radiation that would be there.

>>97495268
The side with the most swag wins in the end.

>>97495768
Technically its not even a star cluster but the collective butthurt leftover from the Reunification War produces enough heat to make all those worlds habitable.

>>97495268
Marianbros….not like this

>>97495780
It's 1000 stars, most of them blue giants, with a radius of just 20 light years. The central cluster spans only 4. That is too much heat and way too much gamma radiation, nevermind the orbital chaos of that many massive bodies in that (relatively) tight a space. The stellar winds would be so fierce that planets would have a hard time forming, let alone surviving for billions of years or maintaining atmospheres, much less life. Even a shielded dropship would just be a big microwave oven in that. Even a "Blanet" would be less retarded.

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>>97490369
he's from em4 minis cheap range

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>>97495055
>>97495045
Honestly the Swordsman is a cool design, kinda wish the Davions had modernized it instead of retiring it.
A Swordsman variant with an actual sword would have been cool for sure.

It's the same with the Gladiator for me, I hate that the Dracs mostly retired it, it's a cool trooper and it fills their Medium tonnage niche that early Dracs had little of. Would have loved to have seen tons of Gladiators alongside Panthers, Jenners, Dragons, etc.

>>97495976
It's like a jumping grand dragon (with paper rear armor)
I too love the gladiator

>>97495976
Dracs retired it due to butthurt despite it being an actually great design which I always found dumb as fuck. Ends up getting resurrected for the Dark Age and the 3R and 4R are eternal with mercs. I would actually say its probably one of the strongest medium designs available during the Succession Wars and I have no idea why someone didn't think to start reproduction earlier.

Swordsman I feel is too much a baby Shad without any mobility due to lack of JJ. It would probably need a new variant or major overhaul to make it viable to keep around. A sword variant with TSM and MML though might have been neat.

You meet someone for the first time for a pick up game of Battletech and they start laying out their mechs and record sheets.
Which mech(s) would immediately make you think that you're not going to have a fun and friendly game?

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When its calculating monthly price it says quadruple that if purchasing. Does that mean an eternal monthly rate at 4x the cost? Is 4 monthly installments enough to buy the land outright? Someone please make sense of this?

>>97496197
They're saying you can buy the land outright for 4 months rent. That's pretty cushy when most garrison contracts are 1 year +.

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Haven't read the gothic book yet (do we even have a pdf of it?) so I have to ask, does it add any special rules because of the setting change, like big monsters using HP instead of armor or something?

I'm curious because if we ever get another crossover box with perhaps some fantasy setting (or Shadowrun) would they add a magic phase or just treat magic as pre-existing weapons. Like "oh in this universe energy weapons and swords are actually devices that amplify the pilots magic while the mundane races have to make due with autocannons and hatchets".

>>97496240
>if we ever get another crossover
Nigga, read Battlerun.

>>97496254
>if we ever get another crossover box

>>97496259
You asked about rules. You don't need a box for that.

>>97496068
Same thing with the von rohrs, a good mech that's abandoned in fluff for dumb reasons. Would have been cool if they kept it around to dole out to disgraced regiments like the legion of vega.

>>97496270
I asked if there are any special rules in Gothic. Gothic is a box and would set a precedence for if this line has special rules or not. You need a box for it to come with rules for the crossover. Battlerun is not part of an actual box, but an april fools pdf. It does not set a precedence for what would happen in the next box of this kind of product.

Pavement rules are fucking retarded and I'm tired of my mechs slipping and sliding like retards when I'm trying to pull off maneuvers.

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>>97496312
Deal with the FUN

>>97496292
>april fools pdf
It's not an april fools joke if actual rules are developed and then published,
And april fools joke in the miniature wargaming world is creating an image of a product that does not actually exist.
When the product is actually developed and released, it ceases to be a joke.

So just how bad is it like to live in FedSun underdeveloped planet? Still beats being a Capellan servitor?

>>97496375
Your career options include
>bean farmer, local consumption only
>meth farmer, seasonal
>dropship spotter, paid per dropship, annual dropship rate measured on one hand by three-fingered joe
>spaceport runway sweeper (paid via tips from dropships)
>unpaid intern for the recycled shoe repairman
>banjo player

>>97496163
Flashman 9m, Fire Moth P, whichever Nova Cat has atms and a large pulse, literally any protomechs, or literally any mech using iATMs.

>>97496375
Depends exactly how underdeveloped. If it's bad, you're probably a manual farmer who mostly farms for export, is dirt poor otherwise, and likely uneducated. On the other, there's a solid chance your world isnt really worth invading, so maybe there could be worse places if you dont care about the lack of healthcare.

>>97496375
It's better to be free person living in a roughly late 19th century society than a plantation or house slave who's master has a cell phone.

>>97493727
You're supposed to, yes. But you do you!

>>97496363
It's an april fools joke, does not come with box and does not set a precedence. If you you're not going to answer the actual question, don't answer. If you can't accept you were wrong then don't bother replying, because I won't reply back and wait for someone that can answer the question instead.

>>97496240
>>97496471

They put up the rules for free https://battletech.com/game-downloads/

>>97496363
Fuck off Nazi-anon. The existence of TRO1945 doesn't mean that CGL is ok with your existence or your shitty paint jobs.

>>97496517
If they didn't want WW2 to be involved with things then they should not have touched the subject with even a thousand foot pole.
But instead they chose to invest time, money and manpower to develop a product for exactly that.
They invited the subject, just like FASA did before them with the Greenhaven Gestapo.

>>97496447
>literally any protomechs
I thought Protomechs weren't good?

>>97496447
So you're totally okay going up against a Kingfisher, Bullshark, Thunder Hawk and an Atlas?

>>97496531
The existence of TRO1945 doesn't mean that CGL is ok with your existence or your shitty paint jobs. Follow your führer.

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>multiple named characters pilot archers
>every time a new BT vidya comes out we get some Catapult art
>but never the Crusader
Outside of that one battlemech manual we almost never see the Crusader, why? Out of the big three heavy LRM boats it always seems to get the short end of the stick despite the sick horn.

>>97496468
Bro I cant even find the check box for it. I'm dying.

>>97496588
It's a bad mech sir

>>97496606
Shadow Hawk

>>97496571
CGL isn't okay with the existence of any white man who is not a tranny or a faggot, no one cares.
And what CGL does or does not like doesn't matter for Battletech, they didn't make Battletech, they are merely leasing access to the IP from a third party owner.

>>97496571
>Follow your führer.
But I don't want to sip martinis on a bitch in Argentina.

>>97496606
I swear how do they mess up such a simple concept for a mech? Everything that isn't the 3R in 3025 is pretty good, but after the helm recovery there are maybe 3 good crusader variants. And it hurts because I love the crusader but barely use it, almost every one has some glaring issue (like a heavy gauss rifle or being the royal variant and therefore unavailable) and there isn't a srm boat variant

>>97496628
>therefore unavailable
This is you jamming a stick into your bicycle spokes.
Quit bitching about your own subjective choices.

>>97496628
The HGR crud is an abomination, a testament to mankind's hubris, and it not only shouldn't exist, it should be retroactively decanonized and the IRL person who pitched it should be barred from ever working on another BT product for as long as they live.

>>97496545
Not necessarily, but those are the first ones that came to mind due to personal experience

>>97495492
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5oEVJ7ru2E

>>97495607
>>97495636
And the good thing about AUs is you can always add more.

>>97496466
>If it's bad, you're probably a manual farmer who mostly farms for export
No, if it's BAD, your a sustenance farmer barely growing enough to feed yourself.

>>97496639
Have you considered that it is funny?

>>97496606
It's a sexy mech, aesthetics are the only thing that matters.

>>97496623
>CGLisn't okay with the existence of any white man who is not a tranny or a faggot, no one cares
Rem Alternis isn't CGL you dumb fuck. Yeah, she's a man hating cunt who I could absolutely believe is actually a tranny, but you fucking well know what you're spouting from your mouth is a lie. Guys like Ray (you should know who that is) aren't into the liberal feminist Kool aid at all. I have to agree with the other anon. Either KYS or fuck off to another game where your specific form of mental deficiency is welcome. Maybe try enlisting in ICE.

>>97496653
>rem alternis
>she
LMFAO.
Tell me you suck dick without telling me you suck dick, eh?

>>97496647
No.
It's not a crud. Stop calling it one. It has nothing to do with an actual crusader and if you didn't have the 2 sentences of fluff saying it was, nobody would ever think it was a crusader refit.

Why am I unable to find a single general, on a single board, on this god-forsaken website that doesn't have a resident schizophrenic retard infesting it?

>>97496666
Maybe you should go back to the place where you belong.

>>97496677
I have spent my entire god damn life here. It never used to be this awful.

>>97496666
Because Quints, the old 4chan we knew of has been swept away.

>>97496666

Because generals are, in fact, a blight upon the face of this website.

>>97496657
Hey, dumbfucks. It's actually a woman, not a tranny. Not everything you hate is a tranny.
>woub org/2022/07/26/woub-ignites-passion-for-media-production-for-theatre-student-sarah-krause/

>>97496535
Not in my experience, I've seen them take down assault mechs. If you don't plan ahead with inferno spam, that miss chance will save them from death more often than you think.

>>97496666
If you smell shit everywhere you go you should check the bottom of your shoes

>>97496680
I'm pretty sure that makes you too young to be allowed here.

>>97496686
No, that is a tranny, they can't state that he is a tranny or biologically male because that would be hate speech, they are legally required to uphold his delusions at every turn.

>>97496716
NTA but /tg/ is exceptionally old demographically. I started browsing here in like 2011 and I was already in my 20's, then.

>>97496686
>>97496720
Anything the internet tells me i should dislike is a tranny and that's why I hate them. Whenever someone tells me about a tranny i 100% believe them and hate the tranny forever no matter what anyone says

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Wow, people really don't want to talk about the Crusaders don't they?

>>97496724
'08 for me, but I was underage B& for a year or two.

>>97496680
Don't worry. We're going to make it even worse.

>>97496724
You missed the art where anon said
>my entire god damn life
Making anon a zoomer child.

>>97496735
Son, how would you like to be a member of the united states congress?

>>97496742
Most Crusaders aren't Crael, so what's even the point?

>>97496735
>Anything the internet tells me i should dislike is a tranny and that's why I hate them. Whenever someone tells me about a tranny i 100% believe them and hate the tranny forever no matter what anyone says
This. Except unironically. Trannies really are the only actual problem in the whole world and always have been.

>>97496752
I thought they only accepted pedophiles

>>97496788
(((trannies))), sure. but trannies are just a symptom.

>>97496790
Thats only the Democrat party. Nobody said you had to join them. If you're a Republican it means you don't commit crimes or do wrong things. Republicans are the only honest real Americans left.

>>97496790
So far the records show you to be correct.

/btg/ - bait and trannies general

>>97496800
There is an anon in this thread who literally stores his mechs in a small shrine to a tranny.

>>97496810
And you're the one deciding that it's the only thing you should think or talk about

>>97496813
>just shut up and let the trannies live in peace!

>>97496813
Because it's not ok and it shouldn't exist and that person should be killing themselves rather than posting here. And if they aren't going to kill themselves on their own then I need to drive them to do it. We have to purge this nation of liberal degenerates and this thread is as good a place to start as any.

>>97496822
Your fanaticism is almost admirable, but rather unhinged.

I haven't played beyond Clan Invasion. What are ATMs and iATMs?

>>97496742
the crusader, like many introtech designs, just need clantech versions.

see : HBK-4G -> HBK C

clan xlfe to get it to 5/8/5, clan endo and ff, clan lrms and streak 6's. replace the mlas and mg's with clan mplas
boom, fixed.
you now have a clan invasion solahma mech / fccw+ mech that is still the quintessential crusader, with maximised efficiency of the design.

>>97496742
Of itself, the Archer, and the Catapult, it is simply the worst of the three. It's the Shadow hawk of Heavy LRM boats.

>>97496822
pol is down the hall to the left

>>97496838
Clantech that I'm pretty sure was exclusive to the homeworlds since The Society™ invented them

>>97495268
Praise be to Blake.

>>97496844
however, it IS undeniably COOLER than either archer or catapult. its the missile fists.

>>97496838
ATM is Advanced Tactical Missile, it's a clan missile system which chooses between ER, Standard, and HE ammo. ER does 1 damage/missile, Standard does 2, and HE does 3. They're solid because of versatility but less good than Clan SRMs or LRMs at any particular role.

iATMs are improved versions invented by the Society. These are absolute nonsense and not remotely balanced - on top of the ATM stuff, they get Streak effects, so you skip the cluster table, and they add Inferno and Mag Pulse ammo as options. I've never actually seen them on the table as no one anywhere plays the Society.

>>97496666
Huge reason why I don't typically participate here anymore. You can share a batrep and you'll have people bitching that you didn't create a professional powerpoint presentation for it. At that point, why bother?

>>97496866
>as no one anywhere plays post Clan Invasion
FTFY

>>97496871
You're free to FUCK OFF then.

>>97496876
My group plays Civil War and ilClan era regularly, though we don't really do Republic/Dark Age as ilClan gets the best of those two and no one really is invested in Jihad. It's just that none of us care to do stuff set in the Homeworlds as only NPCs live there.

I would gladly play Jihad, but only if nukes are allowed.

>>97496742
The day CGL responds to my e-mails giving them an entire TROs worth of custom crusader variants is the day I will have more to say

>>97496592
It's a check box right next to where you set the mech tonnage. It will gray out if you don't have the year set correctly, or if you're in Introtech.

>>97496885
In case you don't know, CGL explicitly doesn't look at unsolicited fan content because it opens up legal issues.

>>97495383
Thanks, anon.

>>97496883
>everything you read on the internet is true

>>97496312
>I'm tired of my mechs slipping and sliding like retards
Around pavement you plot out your movement so you're minimizing or eliminating facing changes in a single movement phase, usually by making your turns before you reach the pavement or after you've left it.

>>97496880
I see I touched a nerve with you anon. Guess I hit too close to home for you.

>>97496312
I haven't read pavement rules but I do know one time in megamek my naginata slid into a building and all 10 floors collapsed onto it in the opening rounds of a match once. And isn't pavement supposed to give traction anyhow?

>>97496920
Yeah the nerve where you only came here to bitch about being here.
The solution to your problem is very simple.

>>97496928
>isn't pavement supposed to give traction
to rubber wheels, yes.
Steel and other metallic surfaces slide on pavement like it's ice, this is an instance of Battletech rules being realistic.
Mech feet are not rubber shod because the weight and method of locomotion would tear the rubber up and wear it out in hours, mechs don't have shoes and if they did then comstar would be second fiddle in economic and logistical power to Nike, Sketchers and Adidas.

I need a picture of a mech in fucking Jordans now

>>97496934
I'm still waiting for the series on mech ratings to be finished and then redone for Clan Invasion and FCCW as well.

There aren't enough space combat mech variants.

>>97496793
>If you're a Republican it means you don't commit crimes or do wrong things.
Because if the President does it, it's not a crime?

>>97496960
That's because even the fastest jumping mechs are dumpy slow things in space.

>>97496880
you are free to fucking kill yourself, you fucking contrarian, constantly negative assfuck.

>>97496990
>t. not at all negative anon

>>97496871
there are about 2-3 concerted reeeeeee-tard posters, namely the trannyfaggot who constantly post's himself softcore, who utterly despise actual discussion and go out of their way to derail every thread. ever. constantly.

>>97496996
>go out of their way to derail every thread
You still bitch about trannies more than Bottom post, reflect on that.

Most combine troops did not in fact get rosebud stuff, isn't that right? I need a 4th for a scout lance and was eying up the hussar or mongoose but the unit isn't any of ted's special boys.

>>97496871
>>97496666
It really only takes one determined retard (and a completely apathetic or complicit moderation staff), to ruin everything.

>>97497024
If you want a concerned and active moderation staff then reddit is for you.

What was the jamie wolf commentary on the art of war like?

>>97497011
It's true that the rosebud stuff was concentrated to elite units but it's also true that the Mongoose was made in the combine for almost two hundred years. No one should care as long as it has era appropriate equipment.

>>97497024
>one determined retard
I wonder about this guy, honestly. Is he some teen-aged edgelord who thinks he's winning an argument, a mentally stunted adult hyperfixated on trannies, a paid agent sent here to make this general miserable, or just straight up a chat bot?

>>97497088
>a mentally stunted adult hyperfixated on trannies
It's this one.

>>97496735
Someone online told me nazianon was a tranny but was also "one of the good ones" like LocustLabs. Should I trust what they say is true?

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>>97496947
>>97496943
I got you

>>97497105
The good ones have to be hot like Locust so Nazianon needs to post butte so we can decide

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>tfw they're going to butcher the celestials exactly like this

>>97497105
The only things we know about nazianon are that he paints a lot of mechs and posts them, that he actually has nazi beliefs and that he hates bottom anon.
That's it, not one other fact has emerged.

>>97497121
They're gonna save low res jpegs of them as PNGs?

>>97497123
So you don't think he plays Battletech in any form?

>>97497131
It seems highly unlikely.

>>97497113
This is really not as funny as you seem to think it is.

>>97497113
>>97497135
>We must fulfil the Great Father's Mission...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO3cFz53vs8

>>97497131
I don't think more than 2 or 3 anons in this thread actually play Battletech in any form.
But as long as he's posting mechs and not posting nudes I really couldn't care.

>>97497147
Please, we have photo evidence of NEA, MCA, and Bottom having played, with Bottom even having defaced his official tournament medal.

>>97497142
>space jam
I think it's worth mentioning that there were multiple instances of Trials of Possession being determined by sports games rather than combat

>>97497153
Those photos could be staged.

How rare is the overlord? If you have say a mech battalion would it be more likely shipped in one or split across three unions?

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>>97497153
We even have evidence of NEA and me playing each other.

>>97497158
Why would I spend a bunch of time staging photos with NEA without actually playing against him? I like playing the game.

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>>97497158
>Totally Staged

>>97497167
>>97497168
>if you're catching flak, you're over your target.

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>>97497147
Well, I do too, but I stopped posting battle reports because either noone cared to read it or found arguing with the shitposting retard more entertaining. And if that's the case then fair enough.
Pic from my last game on Sunday. Jade Phoenixes fucking suck to fight against, did 156pts of armor damage and no structural across 4 turns of shooting.

Megamek is ultimately just the better way to play the game.

>>97497181
Unpainted terrain rustles my jimmies a does mechschale terrain.
It's one thing for mech minis to be abstracted so you can paint them, handle them and identify them, they only occupy one hex, but a building spanning multiple hexes is going to be bigger than than the mechscale building depicted, it's incongruous in a way that hurts the brain to reconcile.

>>97497190
I play tabletops to socialize. Games are to be played with people in the same room as you, not machines or people separated from you by a system of tubes.

>>97497197
I play games to have fun. Socializing is boring, distracting, and a waste of time.

>>97497147
I'm playing every other Saturday in a campaign now, but like everyone else, I see no point in posting batreps. Also I usually only take one picture of the entire battle because hovering over everything constantly is annoying behavior.

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>>97497196
I just accept that mech scale terrain looks better and don't worry about how it makes the weapon ranges shorter than they already are, because whether a machine gun stops hitting at 90m or 18m, it's ridiculous either way.

>>97497197
I play tabletops to have physical game pieces that are not tied to ephemeral save files and restricted to a single device, I lie to put my Player Character on a shelf to look at even when not playing the game.
Socializing as a part of that is something I endure, if I could have a competent algorithm play the opposition and physically move their minis around I'd do it in a heartbeat.
It sucks to involve someone else's desires and ideas in my escape.

>>97497204
As an addendum one of the things I like about battletech is the way hexmaps are designed to make terrain unnecessary and that the required model count is low, it's a huge space saver and it makes going out to game far more portable.

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>>97497213
>>97497200
I find this incomprehensible. Why would you play toy robots if not to have fun with your friends?

>>97497147
I play battletech weekly-monthly, but posting "I played battletech today." Isn't interesting to everyone else.

>>97497221
Because it has ALWAYS been more fun for a man to play with himself.

>>97497121
I am not confident we'll even get redone Celestials at the rate things are going. I already went 3D print for mine because even if they do release them in plastic it will be years before they get around to it.

>>97497235
Indeed. In fact, I am playing with myself right now!

>>97496844
Its ment to be an LRM boat?
I always slapped SRMS onto its fists

>>97497240
It pisses me off that there are so many clan invasion and fedcom civil war spheroid mech designs that have never had minis and dont even have 3d prints and instead cgl is focused on ilclan, alternate universes and releasing multiple poses for shit like urbanmechs.
There are hundreds of mech chassis' that need to be given minis before getting sidetracked with bullshit.

>>97497147
I played today. My opponent and I beat the shit out of each other over 11 turns to end inconclusively with nearly every surviving mech on its ass with a busted gyro. An ilClan game that played out like an introtech game, weirdly enough.

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This is the Union Dropship "Bitch-Slapper" requesting aid from all friendly Battlemechs. All Battlemechs please check in.

>>97497250
Instead of faffing about with AUs they could do era based box sets and force packs to address the major designs of each like the Clan Invasion boxed set.

>>97497273
I could concede to major designs as many of the spheroid clan invasion mechs are trashy and even in the lore were low production numbers and largely a result of the IS having "kid in a candy shop" syndrome with all the helm core and clan tech options.

>>97497123
You don't have to defend yourself for being trans, nazianon

>>97497158
Not everybody stages their games like Kraken did

>>97497318
Until I witness someone ITT playing with my own eyes, nothing you say can convince me otherwise.

>>97497323
Go to Adepticon and I'll play you.

>>97497324
True autists don't do huge groups of people, especially not in the knowledge that that particular place will be full of plumbers crack and dudes who never shower.

>>97497273
>do era based box sets and force packs to address the major designs of each like the Clan Invasion boxed set
And you expect them to not fuck that up how exactly?

>>97497324
If I could I'd go there to face you. But I am poor, and cannot afford the trip.

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I bought a Toro for my mercs. Anybody here ever use one and have opinions about it?

>>97497338
NTA but I might actually give them money if they made minis for mechs that I've wanted to play for decades which have never had figures.

>>97497349
It's the only option for a light LRM boat, nothing more really needs to be said.

>>97497355
Monkey's Paw Anon; You get your Minis but they went with a sculpt you think is retarded looking!

>>97497364
More like it's exclusive to some alpha strike box and the other minis in it are freakshow omnimechs that only existed for three decades in-universe and a mad cat repose.

>>97497349
A decent Light-LRM and Light-Sniper Platform, best served on a hill or in the backlines.

>>97497364
I have not yet objected to any of the shimmy designs, I don't let nostalgia delude my sense of aesthetics.
the monkeys paw here is that it will be the shitty bubble mold lined chinese manufacturer they use, but I would tough it out with a file, hobby knife and a scribing tool to fix up some of those mechs.

>>97497369
My idea is that it seems like a good thing to sit next to a heavier missile boat as a bodyguard that can otherwise lend supporting fire.

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>>97497190
>click
>click
>click
>click
>click
>read spreadsheet
>click
>click
>click

What is the best way to maximize the amount of AC/10s in a list

>>97497428
You forgot swearing at princess getting three TACs to your engine in a row and you missing an entire string of 5 to-hits on a 3/4ths dead mech with no armor left.

>>97497433
It's almost as if 2/3s or 2/4s should be the standard.

Do the events on the planet Nostromo have a canonical resolution? I heard that the campaign is never addressed elsewhere so what exactly happened on there is left ambiguous.

might be interesting if it’s implied that the Nostromo arc is a critical point of timeline divergence: if the broken is destroyed or left forever trapped on the planet, the Battletech timeline continues on on whatever course it is heading but if that AI escapes, then it will lead to a age of mechanical overlords that will only end with either a “Cybernetic Revolt” or possibly in a “Butlerian Jihad” depending on how badly things go

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>>97497323
I can say "I have seen someone ITT play a game IRL" as many times as you like but all you'll respond with is "didn't happen lol" so that you can maintain your retarded opinion.

I need trashy Japanese rap to listen to while running around in my all-dragon lance

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>>97497190
Megamek is outstanding, but I miss working on scenery and small random items to leave on the scenery for others to notice.
But yeah, megamek is great.

should I buy all the battlefield support: vehicles boxes for $150, or just wait 6 months and 3d print them? Honestly I probably won't use them in 6 months, but it's a decent deal and they would look nice to have.

>>97497713
I have all of them and have barely used them, only playing them in the Hinterlands campaign. I don't regret buying them, but think that unless you are a completionist who really prefers official minis/accurate designs over prints you should just wait and print what you need..

>>97495268
>>97495284
This was so cool! Thank you for sharing!

>>97493511
Is it maybe time to add mekbay.com to the OP?

>>97497753
The wheels of BTG grind slowly, very slowly, sometimes backwards.

>>97496987
iirc there are rules that let you move at ASF speeds with your JJs in space, it's just that you have very limited fuel at base, which is why a dedicated space mech needs to drop a ton or two in liquid storage for proper combat endurance.

>>97497786
I'm pretty sure your thrust is 1/3rd of your jump, round down. Most mechs are barely a 1/2 in space. Traditionally fast jumpers are like 2/3s. Even fatass ASF are typically at least 5/8s, if not 6/9 or even upwards of 10/15

>>97497571
Necromo, not Nostromo.

>>97497814
My mistake, I remembered it sounded a lot like the name of the ship from the 1st alien movie.

>>97497349
Suffers from being an iconic Taurian mech and thus a key symbol of that fan bases derangement. And being completely extinct post reunification wars.
Otherwise, as tge other anons said, it's a decent light support mech.

>>97497204
kino road

>elementals jumping across the map casually pop off their SRMs
>insta-kills a dragon from full armor + engine
these things are bullshit

Why do you call Taurean fans ‘deranged’?

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>>97497318
Staging games implies free time, a resource I currently lack, but unlike manic and bottom, I'm not thirsting for attention.
Pic semirel, last game I played, my Lyrians got smashed by some of the most obnoxious 2/3 clan partial wing nonsense out there. The Commando's did really well though.
I'm hopefully, work allowing, playing the same opponent again. One prepped list WILL contain artillery cannon toting vees.

>>97497869
"Taurians would beat any great house"
"Taurians beat the SLDF"
"Taurians military strategy is deep not wide the focus on producing good stuff that's why they win"
"Tex said...."
"Hurrdurr nooks"
Need I continue?

>>97497870
Posting here implies you do, indeed, have the spare time to lay down map sheets, put a bunch of mechs on it, chuck a handfull of dice onto the table, and arrange record sheets so they're just in frame

>>97497883
I blame Tex for ruining them.

Clanner mechs go from strong to avatars of destruction when you have a Trueborn 1/2 pilot in them, even a mere Summoner. Good thing they become prohibitively expensive when you do that.

>>97497900
>anon discovers that high damage, high accuracy, long range weapons are powerful

>>97497900
>Techbase known for its cost is balanced by its cost!
gee thanks for that nugget of wisdom, what would we do without you

>>97497900
Should write for sarna with that insight.

>>97497900
Posts like this really do make me wonder how much of this site is just ChatGPT bots nowadays.

>>97497886
I'm pretty sure taurian "fans" were doing the space texas thing before tex.