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capellan mechs are based
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I like the concept of a mech built around a single generalist main weapon.
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>>97501266
As much as I am not a fan of their faction they produce some pretty good mechs.
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>>97501266
I would like the Cataphract alot more if it didnt have the RT ballistic weapon. Its overdone.
Compare this to the Vindicator, an actually good all round mech. What does the Cata actually add?
Take out the Torso ballistic and give it an LRM 10 on each torso instead. Maybe medium lasers too, im to tired to check the weights on it all. And either replace the right arm, or make it actually feel like a gun arm by adding more firepower to it.
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>>97501284
Hollander is not a bad idea as a concept. I think if you want a full on gauss rifle it is the cheapest mech to field that can do that. A Yellow Jacket is just better at it though if you are playing the cost game in my opinion.
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Gotta give Battletech credit, the governments of the setting never did anything nearly as evil as what we saw in the Epstein files
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>>97501347
Basic hollander 3 is one UAC/10
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>>97501266
I really wish we had more variants of the cataphract, I genuinely love its design
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>>97501331
>What does the Cata actually add?
A heavy mech they can reliably produce.
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>>97501266
Agreed, the Raven is a symbol of when the Cappies were cool piece of shit underdogs: they don't have the numbers so they have to come up with new shit or rediscover the old one otherwise the others will finally crush them.
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>>97501331
If you are playing introtech it makes a decent alternative to the Warhammer for its cost. You also don't have to worry so much about heat which can be a nice benefit.
>>97501366
There is also a Hollander III with a gauss as well albeit that is bit more costly for not much gained over the original.
>>97501399
I think you mean variants that didn't suck ass though to be fair I feel that is more down to the rules for MASC being kind of shit more than anything.
>>97501421
They come up with some pretty nice designs especially once they start spamming stealth armor on everything.
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Did this plot thread from the house davion book ever get expanded on or otherwise go anywhere?
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>>97501465
If it what I think it is then involved NAIS shenanigans.
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>>97501408
That is a valid in lore reason not arguing that. it just dosnt fit the capellan way of fighting to me i guess. Like it needed a different default loadout completely.
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>>97501473
Well it started out as a test bed for ECM and recovered star league tech schematics, then was stolen and completed by the Suns and when it was finally fielded by the Cappies they probably used it to stand and fight for places they couldn't just give up or fight for using their hit and run tactics.
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>>97501358
I wouldn't be so sure, there's a lot of ambiguity about just what happens on a Canopian Pleasure Circus.
>Among the thousands of pleasure circuses that exist, it is the policy that only legal and consensual activities are allowed. Whether this is true or not depends on one's faith in human nature.
That like does not inspire confidence.
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>>97501557
That's just implying that there might be some coercive sex work like you see with strippers and prostitutes sometimes. There's no intergalactic satanic jewish conspiracy to hide child rape, cannibalism, snuff films, child torture, and human trafficking.
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>>97501266
It always felt like novels want to make Capellans feel like a bug horde, but the actual fluff and mechs make that feel like the opposite. Where the Cappies have the small number of heavily specialized mechs to hold the tide of Fedsuns introtech mooks.
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>>97501576
In CGL's version of things there is, because CGL's version states judaism still exists.
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>>97501358
As far as we know. Do you remember the original lore for Melissa Steiner? Met Hanse at ten, married him at seventeen.
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I finally found a Hi-Scout record sheet that properly shows its drone control system, but it's the original RS 3039 made with HMP, so it's ugly as hell, and because the system is so heavy it carries one less drone than the TRO states. And the drones in that same record sheet have .5 tons of "remote equipment/sensors" and a crew member instead of the .8 tons of Drone (Remote) Operating System and 0 crew that the rules say they should need (and which they have absolutely no space to actually have because they're 3 ton vehicles with no armor or weapons to remove). RS 3039 Unabridged replaces the control system and drone storage space with a 20 ton infantry bay because they were scared of advanced equipment or something. And the drones aren't listed as having any equipment at all.
I guess it can be chalked up as yet another thing that needs a rules pass. And the improved drones that go with the Hi-Scout Cunningham also need to be detailed and given record sheets.
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>>97501576
Unironically is this how the IS and Periphery felt when Comstar was revealed to be a centuries old doomsday cult helping lead down human civilization to the stone age to take over in an easy sweep?
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>>97501717
At least comstar just killed you, they didn't rape and torture and eat your children
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>>97501358
Didn't multiple entire planets get depopulated?
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>>97501576
There's no such thing as 'sex work'. Its not work. It's degeneracy on all sides, and whoring.

And where ever you have such degeneracy, tolerated or underground, it always has paedos, and rape. And other awfulness. Always and without exception.

Which is why 'red-light districts' and any such 'industry' should be ruthlessly crushed.
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The real ultimate evil in Battletech is the Davions for not wiping out the Taurians
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>>97501266
Pic unrelated, obviously, since you posted a davion mech. You can tell, because it is built around an autocannon.
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>>97501459
Yeah, that's a more accurate statement. The 2x is nice, the 4x is fun, but all the others just have too many issues. There's gotta be a recipe with a light engine and maybe endo-steel that's neither too expensive nor too slow.
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>>97501741
The davions not genociding any of their enemies was their downfall.
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>>97501358
>governments that have improved their behavior to only sometimes killing entire planetary populations from actually causing humanity to face technological decline from using orbital bombardments are less evil than a conspiracy that didn't even kill the population of a single planet
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I finally fucking found it, I knew I wasn't crazy and Tunnel Rat Exoskeleton spicy fanart existed.
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>>97501843
Killing people, especially those considered your broader enemy, isn’t nearly as bad as engaging in child raped torture, and cannibalism for fun. The monarchs in the setting engage in questionable behaviors but they’re not satanic pedophiles
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>>97501847
Is this what you were trying to get me to draw a couple weeks ago when I posted my big titty OC? I remember someone mentioning it.
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>>97501868
I beg to differ somewhat, killing people considered to be your enemy is not at all bad and is rather entirely good.
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I love the simple rugged Marauder BA design, it looks like straight out of Metal Slug. I wish it wasn't battle armor but instead some sort of light mech, overgunned and slow for it's tonnage.
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>>97501871
I don't recall the exact context anymore. I think you had a big titty OC crawling out a cockpit and I made a comparison to this pic but couldn't find it at the time. But now that I rediscovered it by accident I had to post it.
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>>97501692
The unfinished Book movement and confirmation of all old Terra religion's continued existence has been in the game since FASA's House Davion sourcebook.
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>>97501888
If it was that one then she was already out, though shes the one with the big butt more than tits.
Haven't really drawn either of them in a bit. Art blocks a bitch.
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>>97501894
That's retarded, even in the past thousand years every single religion on the planet has undergone massive changes. Once humanity spreads out into space the quantity, quality and rate of those changes will all accelerate and expand exponentially.
Just like the existence of the tetatae that is a tidbit that is worthy of being ignored and forgotten, blakism and clan spiritualism make sense, old outdated terran religions do not.
If you want to get into religion in the game, make up something new.
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>>97501917
That's like saying the humanity would abandon feudalism or monarchism just because it's the future. Some things are here to stay forever.
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>>97501358
>what we saw in the Epstein files
Those aren't even real anyway. It's an AI generated Democrat hoax to attack President Trump. He's a victim and hasn't done anything wrong. Everyone who has downloaded or distributed the """files""" should be hung as a traitor.
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>>97501692
Fuck off Nazi-anon.
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Observation: Omni transport for BA makes sense for the Clans with their limited manpower but not for Spheroid formations. A cheap VTOL created to ferry them around and built in large numbers would be a much more sensible option. If they got jump jets then it shouldn't even be a problem if the chopper is shot down, technically speaking.
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>>97501917
>even in the past thousand years every single religion on the planet has undergone massive changes.
..Which is what the Unfinished Book movement was. A collage of old religions based on upholding the golden rule in the face of a whole sphere's worth of spiritual differences.
There's also DracCom's mandatory Shintoism (much to the chagrin of the Christian Rassle Hogs and Muslim Azami Brotherhood) and the Thuggee cults of the CapCon.
Would recommend taking a look at the religious organizations in the setting. Stuff like the One Star Faith and Brotherhood of Randis you'd appreciate.
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>>97501717
Conniving manipulators intent on ruling everyone else is very standard fare. Please, you don't need to pretend to not understand what's worse here.
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>>97501879
You will settle for duct taping them to your nearest mech for transport like everyone else
I do find it neat that the Marauder is preferred over the technically more available Ravager in universe
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>>97501955
Helicopters are too easy to hard counter if you know they are coming. It makes more sense to have a variety of transports depending on what the BA formation is attached to.
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>>97501955
What you really want are Omni-APCs, because the ability to ride outside of omni-units is entirely unrelated to any infantry capacity they may have on the inside.
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>>97501917
Religion changed over the "past thousand years" because the internet didn't exist and holy works were cobbled together schizo scrapbooks that were partially passed down by word of mouth. Also schisms forming because those works had inherent contradictions which easily lead to different factions focusing on different parts and thus not being compatible anymore.

The point of bringing up the internet and long-range communications in general is that it becomes no longer possible to stake your claim on a particular interpretation of a religion and build it up in isolation. If its a funne interpretation of scripture then everyone else is going to laugh at you at the speed of at least dial up. The density of populations is also different in a star faring civilization; you don't have a few hundred people on a lost colony creating a divergent version of Shintoism and then spreading it to other hundreds or thousands of people on reestablishing contact; you have planets with billions of people to maintain the signal integrity of any particular mainline religion.

Same thing with languages. After internet and spellcheck were invented, languages no longer changed. They have add-ons to their vocab but their core structure will never differ. "This is a readable sentence" has zero chance of becoming "Sentence read a this is able" even a million years from now.
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>>97501955
>risking an entire platoon of BA on a VTOL that has a good chance of lawndarting after catching a single round from an AC/2
Mechs are basically the only thing they can hitch a ride on that is harder to kill than they are
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>>97501993
Vees have to deal with terrain whereas VTOLs will not.

>>97501985
Fair, but then what should be the primary mode of transport? I don't think mechs with handlebars and a gyro that can stabilize a few extra tons of hangers-on should be the gold standard for the factions with a large industrial base.
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>>97501998
That's why there should be a rule that they can just jump out and land safely, if there isn't already.
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>>97501358
>kentares massacre
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>>97502010
Genocides and massacres aren't new and are actively happening IRL and will continue to happen. But the mass rape, torture, and cannibalism of children for sadistic fun? That's a fucked up level of evil we've never seen in Battletech.
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>>97501935
There are people who unironically believe this
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>>97502006
A Manteuffel D can carry an entire platoon of BA with two squads in, one squad out.
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>>97502010
Didn't happen, but it should have because the gaijin davion dogs deserved it
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>>97502030
Sounds like Sunday in a Sibko
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>>97502006
The Inner Sphere has been making heavy APCs with 6 ton carrying capacity in wheeled, hover and tracked flavors for almost 6 centuries by the time they start thinking about battle armor.
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>>97502069
And if you're in space, you're kind of stuck with Mechs, omnivees, or the Prowler for transport.
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>>97501997
If you think the modern forms of big religions are going to survive another century of internet unchanged you're a fucking moron.
Already the internet is causing people to abandon christianity because the educational factor has enlightened lots of people as to the very specifically jewish nature of it. Likewise European Heathen faiths are reawakening because the relatively small amount of hard knowledge on them is no longer sequestered behind closed doors of moneyed institutions.
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Filling out mechwarrior personalities in my unit, and I'm getting down to the last few so available mechs are limited. What would make a better ride for John TotallyNotABlakistAgent, a battle cobra or raptor omni?
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>>97502101
You're really overestimating certain trends based on a chronically online perspective.
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Done with the scaling for now, there are a few I wanted but couldn't get like the Ymir, really liking the Talos sculpt, just got to come up with a lance to go with it.
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>>97502135
You hope.
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>>97502141
No this is pretty much supported by the statistics. European paganism pretty much only exists because of a fringe of European traditionalists and nationalists, they're just edgy atheists, they don't actually believe in Odin so their capacity to grow is always going to be very limited. Meanwhile Catholicism, Evangelical Protestantism, and Islam continue to be some of the largest and fastest growing religions.
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>>97502152
>assumptions
So you are a fucking moron.
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>>97502152
fastest growing amongst brownskins which doesnt count for much
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>>97502155
If you can find any support for the idea that modern pagans actually believe in their gods I'll be surprised.
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>>97502159
>fastest growing amongst brownskins which doesnt count for much
It actually counts the most since they're some of the only population that's growing. Being a popular religion amongst white people doesn't really matter since white people just don't have kids.
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>>97502101
except that's not true. christianity is growing fr the first time in generations, because people are seeing through the 1960's + faggotry and degeneracy constantly attacking it, all while they are ALSO seeing through the Bullshit of "The Church" trying to control christians as chattel serf slaves. KEKtians, fake christians are being wiped out, REAL christianity is seeing a resurgence. most especially in young men.

they're rejecting degeneracy, thots and whores, and embracing Christ.
as for the paganism, that's just the degenerate fucking commie lefty wierdoes trying to find something new to pervert.
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>>97502163
it doesnt count for much because its only being adopted by lip service due to missionaries handing out free shit so they can pump those numbers up
the minute free shit stops coming the lip service goes away
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Holy fuck can you retards stop talking about your favorite minorities for five fucking minutes? We move little toys around hex grids and make pew-pew noises with out mouths while rolling dice here,

New topic:What's your worst favorite mech and your best favorite mech?

If you pick the same one twice you're a WAACfag, you gotta like at least one fucking bad mech or you're not a really mechwarrior.
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>>97502176
Doesn't work that way, we're seeing Christian and Muslim missionaries from the 3rd world countries being sent to Europe and America
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>>97502177
>Holy fuck can you retards stop talking about your favorite minorities for five fucking minutes?
NO
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>>97502163
judaism and islam are satanic death cults. they are not religions. both explicitly say to lie, cheat, steal rob, rape, torture and murder nonbelievers.

ONLY christianity says to let them go their own way, but call them to repent of their sin and be saved.

hell, the bible explicitly says that ALL a jew need do to be saved, is to honestly, humbly, and contritely admit Christ is King. Neither part of which can be done via force or coercion. Christianity wants to save people's souls the right way.
are You saved? are you washed in the blood of the lamb?
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>>97502184
>are you washed in the blood of the lamb?
I AM CLEAN AND SPOTLESS
I AM PURE LIKE THE SNOW
I AM WASHED IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAAAAMB
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>>97502177
I'm fucking exhausted in more ways than one. "Not a Real Mechwarrior".

By the way, my favorite good mech is the Uziel and my favorite bad mech is the Hatchetman.
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>>97502184
no christianity is about brainwashing you to be a good servant, a jew is allowed to lie and you are required to believe him, isn't that convenient for the jew?
universalism is the death of you and your family, whereas the Heathen believes in Frith which means morality is applicable only to your family, tribe and people as a whole, the outsider is the enemy, which jives with the natural order, life is a competition to see which organism survives and which fails.
>I would rather a nonwhite christian europe than a nonchristian white europe
christianity demands adherence to that idea, the survival of the parasitic ideology is more important than the survival of any given practitioner, that is insanity.
the jews at least believe in securing their own existence, the muslims are also universalists but their embrasure of violence to secure that end has at least protected their so far.
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>>97502208
>the Uziel
the problem with late era mechs is that you can't use them in just any game, this and miniature availability are why the introtech mechs will always be the most popular.
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>>97502213
>whereas the Heathen believes in Frith which means morality is applicable only to your family, tribe and people as a whole
That might matter if Europe wasn't hopelessly addicted to globalism
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>>97502223
no, puppet politicians are enslaved to globalism, the people are not.
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>>97501982
The Ravager feels like baby's first BA, which it sorta is since it was the Marians first attempt at a BA and does what it's supposed to decently enough.
In comparison the Marauder BA was a more refined attempt in comparison, has more firepower, has an easy to fix layout which is appealing to third parties, has the mental image that conbects it to the universally loved Marauder Battlemech(even if they're not actually related at all), and a license was picked up in the Taurian Concordat which means it's being produced in two corners of the Periphery.
So I'd say it makes sense, the Marauder BA has a lot going for it in universe.
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>>97502238
No the people especially are, unless you think all the polls are lying too
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The raptor omni actually sucks, I thought it had maxed out armor but this thing is a death trap
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>>97502245
>polls would never lie
I refer back to "you are a fucking moron"
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>>97502246
Anon it's a 25 ton mech, even if it did have maximum armor it'd still be thin skinned in general.
It's a proof of concept mech to show the IS is figuring out Omnipod tech in universe, the devs didn't actually intend it to be good.
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>>97502177
take it up with CGL for putting a map of religions into Total Warfare, they decided this is on-topic.
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>>97502258
But is it better or worse than the Owens?
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>>97502255
So then your entire belief in the rise of paganism is 'I believe it because I wish it was true'
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>>97502271
>paganism
Well if that's your qualifier then the billions of jeets count too, or are you suggesting jeets and hinduism are not on the rise in the billions?
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>>97502263
And FASA for doing the same thing in all the Housebooks.
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>>97502270
Well it's faster, has twice the armor, and still more space for config than the Raptor.
Though I think the C3 is fixed, so if you're not running a C3 lance that filled ton probably hurts. Same with the TAG and BAP.
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>>97501916
Will you sketch my non-fetishy battletech OC for $20? I have a description but no reference art.
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>>97502213
wrong, blasphemer. we are commanded to have a discerning mind, learn wisdom, but not be self-righteous in it, and NOT take things at face value
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>Raptor
>Firestarter Omni
>Blackjack Omni
>Owens
>Avatar
>Black Hawk-KU
So the Dracs/LAW were just way ahead of the game as far as IS Omnipod tech RnD went right?
It seems like they pretty much produced almost every example of First Gen IS Omnimech when practically every other Great House was lagging behind and producing maybe a couple lines at most.
I thought the Feds at least had the Centurion Omni for themselves, but no that wasn't until the 3110s, just about half a century later.
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Is the Silver Bullet Gauss any good? The fact even the devs have abandoned it doesnt make it seem that way.
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>>97502177
It's to be expected, Battletech embraces a very traditionalist setting so it attracts these kinds of conversations
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Campaign idea: Special Pilot Abilities are earned by doing related things in game. For example, you earn Hot Loader by dealing a certain amount of damage with LRMs while inside their minimum range in a single match.

>>97502312
The Dracs had lots of clantech salvage, especially after Luthien, and were the most interested in mimicking Clan style warfare.
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>>97502326
Were those 3d printed? I'd love to have scale models of mechs
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>>97502101
>modern forms of big religions
>abandon christianity
>Likewise European Heathen faiths are reawakening
None of what you described is change, that's different "faiths" reemerging. The existing Christian denominations are here to stay (or get dropped) but they won't change anymore within their own contexts. Let's be real here, those people are larping with random paganisms and don't actually believe shit. It's hard to be faithful in general in the internet age when you see yet another horror story every other day.
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>>97502312
Most of the rest just weren't as interested in the concept and only made their own designs to experiment. They were also able to license LAW's designs, so the need for unique chassis wasn't very important.
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>>97502330
They are, yes. If you take files intended for Battletech play and scale them up 475% they look about right next to 28mm minis. Maybe 500%
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>>97502350
Damn I should get myself one
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>>97502333
There had to have been some interest, the Templar was explicitly intended to replace Awesomes and Victors in the AFFC.
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>>97502314
It has sidegrade disease as well as being advanced tech for no reason and basically doesn't appear on canon units but other than that it's ok.
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>>97502312
Don't forget the Sunder!
But also the other houses never then made an Owens or Strider II with double heat sinks. Everyone who wants to use those mechs is forced to endure the writers curse of 3050's combine, even a century later when it makes no sense
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>>97502314
It's basically an LBX Gauss but you can only use cluster rounds, so how appealing that is depends on the person I guess.
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>>97502350
I see the perfidous Davions have turned my files sideways again.

>>97502369
I'd pay CGL good money for sequels to those mechs.
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>>97502326
Oh look it's the guy who is friends with the nudeposting faggot and who slept with him in a hotel room and came here to tell us about it!
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>>97502380
Or at least just give Omnis the ability to change heatsinks and armor types, otherwise they're just another alternate mech type fucked over by the rules.
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>>97502359
The Templar was also pushed heavily by high command over the protests of the Department of thr Quartermaster and both Victor and Katrina, who both said no because of the cost. It took a field marshal using his own money and going directly to the manufacturer to actually get it made.
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>>97502369
The Sunder was the Dracs' big brain move when you remember IS Omnimechs can use Clan Omnipods just fine, something Dracs got probably the most salvage of out of any other IS faction.
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>>97502326
>Campaign idea: Special Pilot Abilities are earned by doing related things in game. For example, you earn Hot Loader by dealing a certain amount of damage with LRMs while inside their minimum range in a single match.
Would be cool, especially if it incentives your to play your character how you want. like a MechWarrior in a melee focused mech earning all the melee related SPAs over time.
>The Dracs had lots of clantech salvage, especially after Luthien, and were the most interested in mimicking Clan style warfare.
iirc they were already the closest anyway right? Samurai were big on 1v1 and honor duels despite Teddy K pushing teamwork tactics as hard as he could.
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>>97502177
Worst favorite mech? Probably one of the shitty banshees, you can use them more than people think.
Best favorite mech? Genuinely hard to say, I dont really go for really op mechs too much, my games are pretty casual.
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>>97502411
But then on the flip side, the Inferno was built specifically to be cheaper and simple, so they eventually figured something out.
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>>97502350
What's the avatar model from? Also favourite config?
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>>97502434
***Space Japonese conception of what samurai was based on what Americans thought space japanese would be like
Right and proper samurai would gladly line up in formation with percussion rifles and shoot at their leader's command.
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>>97502177
>What's your worst favorite mech
I'd say either the Charger 1A1, memes aside.
>your best favorite mech?
That's tough, it'd be between the Black Knight or the Vapor Eagle.
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>>97502471
Samurai as in Drac Samurai in gene universe, not historical Samurai from pre Meiji Restoration. I get what you mean but that should be obvious.
It's not like we need the same constant reminder anytime knights in BT are brought up.
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>>97502456
The Avatar is Locust Labs' Kyoshi, and my favorite config is the A, the one pictured.
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So is the Arrow IV just overpriced artillery? By the time it arrives on target they'll have moved.
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>>97502503
It uses the same rules for flight time as artillery. And yes, arty is for punishing targets that don't move but is naturally countered by fast movers.
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I though the big advantage of Arrow IV is that it can interact with TAG while maintaining full power, unlike copperhead rounds from tubes.
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Speaking of arty what happens if you miss your target? I remember playing around with nukes in megamek and having the damnedest time actually getting them to go off. It would be like an 11 to hit the hex and I guess they just disappeared instead of landing long or short and going off like you'd expect
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>>97502503
There are homing AIV, you just need TAG.
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>>97502521
Eh, TAG only really works when it's being guided by a mech, otherwise whatever is guiding the missile will be destroyed too quickly to keep the missile on target.
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>>97502527
I am now imagining max CF (?) bunkers with hidden infantry in them on a 'frontline' lazing mechs for AIV arty behind the lines as a scenario.

make it a full on assault against a hardened series of positions. the 'attacker' side will obviously get to have 'more' mechs, while the 'defender' will be aided by the local indig militia and their er-tags guiding arty in.

mechs charging up hill, into the teeth of arty exploding everywhere, as the smaller defensive force attempts to hold the high ground and not be pushed back from the defensive embrasures.

but then there would need to be rules for mechs being able to go 'hull down' in fortifications, which would need their own cf's and shit as fire ablates them.

and since both sides would be bv matched etc as normal, the defenders would likely be in lighter mechs and smaller numbers, for a real 'how long can they hold out' deal. you'd have to set up the match on two mapsheets 'long' with the defenders on one narrow end, the attackers on the other, at least, to show the 'vast' amount of distance the attackers have to cover.
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The best TAG spotters are Kage BA suits
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>>97502565
For SGAIV, you only have to TAG on the turn the missile actually arrives on the mapsheet. A hidden unit or fast mover popping out from cover can TAG before anything even gets to shoot at it.
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>>97502572
I think the best TAG spotter would be an assault mech. You can't hide while using TAG so you want it to be something durable that can take a punch.
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How often does construction factor affect your games? Any bridges or buildings fall out from under you?
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In the game I play it's often pretty hard to kill a hover tank at 9 hexes
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>>97501331
After thinking for a bit, the Cataphract would be better if it was like a heavier centurion no?
Weapon arm and sacrificial / shield arm.
Torsos could get some LRMs. Im neutral on the big hip gun, but can see the argument for replacing it. Atlas, cyclopes, orion, lot of mechs do that already.
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>>97502572
... why did it take me this long to think of TAG on battle armor.
Actually, does that even work if they are not connected to the lance?
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>>97502177
>Worst Favorite Mech.
Shadow Hawk. To many its awful because its a jack of all trades master of none. Love its base model.
>Best favorite mech.
Ostsol. Two Large lasers, four Medium lasers(two that face backwards). 7+7+5+5 thats a good amount of damage, and its movement and armor values aren't to bad either. Give it DHS and you got a keeper.
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>>97502621
TAG doesn't connect to anything except semi-guided munitions. Doesn't matter what's carrying the TAG.
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>>97502177
>>97502445
This is actually a grotesque lie, I used the Royal black knight recently and it honestly fucks so hard for for its era
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>>97502642
Good to know. They yeah BA is a good carrier for tags.
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>>97502489
>Stop raping/eating babies moloch cumsock.
NO
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>>97502650
Aren't they a little fragile for that?
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What would be my best bet for faction-neutral planetary militia decal?
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>>97502659
If your facing down mechs, your not gonna focus on one guy in BA pointing a laser pointer at your butt.
Tabletop wise.. meh its a bit meta but yeah they would focus your armor.
Plus Tag actually has some good range to it.
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>>97502659
All BA in the squad have the same loadout, so you'd have to kill them all. And since TAG goes off before anything else, you'd have to kill them all an entire turn before they get a lock to impact it.
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>>97502492
to be fair, feels like the Fedsuns drop any sense of honor or chivalry pretty early in Battletech's history. Personally I only remember they're supposed to be knight like from Ardan Sortek being disillusioned by New Avalon politics.
The FWL have knights too, but it's more a niche for certain units, not the overall aesthetic.
Cappies have Warrior House Orders, which are kinda knights but kinda not, and are aesthetically more Chinese Wuxia Jedi.
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>>97501557
Hang on. A Jade Falcon at a Canopian pleasure circus playing roulette? How did he even get there, and what is he using for money?
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>>97502779
He was taken as a bondsman and sold as an exotic decoration.
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>>97502599
If you're silly enough to stand on a building you deserve to have it shot out from under you.
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>>97502788
I'll accept that explanation.
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>>97502779
For all we know he's just a dude with an edgy tattoo. What are the odds he'll ever actually meet a real Jade Falcon who would take offense?
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>>97502812
>What are the odds he'll ever actually meet a real Jade Falcon who would take offense?
1.
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>>97502779
Clan warriors are perfectly comfortable requisitioning money or salable goods from their merchants or other subjects. As for the circuses, they explicitly travel all over the place
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>>97501737
Not sure if right wing Christfag or radical feminist.
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>>97503085
It's pretty wild how it circles back around isn't it
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>>97503097
I used to read the Sinfest webcomic, and watching the author go from embracing radical feminism to becoming an unironic nazi apologist was fucking wild. I feel like he could be a case study on this phenomenon since the comic documents his mental state on a daily basis over 20 some odd years.
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>>97503097
>>97503085
you're both retarded. RadFems are the clowns demanding women fuck 6000cdicks into every orifi they got. per month. because 'muh empowerment' somehow.
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Meine Damen und Herren
Mesdames et messieurs
Ladies and gentlemen:
The HAI-O Hauptmann omnimech.
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>>97503118
Nice chrome.
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>>97503120
k
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>>97503135
daily reminder the 'cigar' moves from side to side and up and down is it gimballs to shoot targets...
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>>97501576
They aren't hiding, because human trafficking clearly enjoys even more legal and economic support than slavery in the US.
>>97501955
I sperged out about this before, but the IS clearly has been building mechs based on their infantry doctrine (Infiltrator/Sloth/DA Scout/DA Standard) since the first generation, and they have very little reason for fielding Omnis in great numbers, so unless BA got mag clamps, it's probably going to hitch a ride in a vee.
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>>97503118
You made her ugly.
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>>97502676
>The FWL have knights too, but it's more a niche for certain units, not the overall aesthetic.
The FWL seems to like roman references.
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>>97502676
The FWL *had* some knights
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>>97503175
Even the legal slavery that the setting has is far less heinous than what we have IRL, we don’t see any child sex slaves for example
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>>97503266
>we don’t see any child sex slaves for example
They're called Sibkos.
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>>97503198
They have an overall Roman Republic feeling to them, with subfactions having their own vibes seperate from that, but you do have hints of knightly style culture from things like the 'Knights of The Inner Sphere' reguments, and the Grand Titan Battlemech.
It feels the FWL was written by three different people with one guy wanting to do Roman Tyrant having to constantly politique with and/or against his senate of oligarchs and representatives with a veneer of democracy.
Another wanted to a couple dozen kingdoms, governments, and otherfactions technically under one overarching leader, with all the problems that would entail.
And the third wanted hyper capitalists, Neo liberals, and themes of transhumanism that all are intended to make the FWL a subfaction of Comstar.

Overall it's pretty fucking schizo even by BT standards.
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>>97503266
We also don't see a lot of the Periphery.

>>97503273
Technically those are not slaves. Their glorious cunnrades
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>>97503286
Well the periphery is a small minority of the setting. That’s the funny thing about battletech, IRL the vast majority of people live in the 3rd world, in battletech the vast majority of people live in the 1st world
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>>97503326
"small minority" is not perhaps fully accurate. Compared to the massive swaths of house space and individual highly populated worlds-- Periphery powers are small, but the Taurian Concordat for example has a population of 33 billion in 3130, with 15 billion more in the Calderon Protectorate. They may be dwarfed comparatively by the 1.3 trillion people in the Federated Suns, but they are hardly the backwater they're sometimes made out to be.

The truth is that standards of living across House Space are not so uniform as to make Periphery powers compare so poorly. Individual regions systems and planets may be poor or affluent based on their position, history and resources. It would probably be better to think of House space as being structured more like central and eastern Europe where a mishmash of smaller and larger nations have broad differences in development, but on the whole are enjoying better and more level standards of living than in the previous centuries.

In short: While a number of the worlds in the periphery are little more than frontier outposts, it is a reality of the distribution of populations and wealth, not a linear gradient of development going from Terra out to the edges.
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>>97503378
Fair, but even on average the inner sphere enjoys lifespans of above 90 years, that’s incredibly impressive
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>>97503406
There are a large number of planets controlled by each great house where literacy is a major problem and basic infrastructure like plumbing are uncommon.
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>>97501916
Sorry to hear that, hope you recover.
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>>97503283
Is there screenshots for other factions?
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I demand a trial of possession for an Elemental waifu - who dares challenge me in this sacred matter?
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>>97501879
that appears to have a cockpit, making it a protomech rather than battle armor
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>>97503522
That is incorrect. While the majority of Battle Armor is conformal to the pilot that is secondary to the issue that Protomechs are a very specific and narrow classification of combat unit. The absence of an enhanced imaging system or VDNI makes it strictly not a protomech.
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>>97503553
but again, has cockpit
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>>97503486
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>>97503522
Having a cockpit has never been a definitional distinction between protomech and BA.
In fact, protomechs universally lack full cockpits, their "cockpits" being cramped compartments always lacking a direct viewport to the outside.
Protomechs are powered by a miniaturized fusion engine, BA are powered by batteries. Protomechs cannot be lighter than two tons, BA cannot be heavier than two tons. Protomechs require a direct neural interface to operate, BA does not.
If it is two tons or lighter and is powered by batteries, it is BA. If it is two tons or heavier, is powered by a miniaturized fusion engine, requires a direct neural interface and lacks a gyro, it is a protomech.
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>>97503118
Nice.
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>>97501737
>157
What Tradhusband larp shit is this?
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>>97501557
Gotta love the fact people are dumb enough to think something called a "Pleasure Cruise" does not involve all the fucked up, illegal and vile stuff humans are into.
They're clearly "legal" but overflowing with the fucked up shit our world's pleasure industry is too.
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>>97503135
>>97503165
Beautiful ugly machine I love all of its variants even the ballsy TSEMP one
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>>97503266
>we don’t see any child sex slaves for example
We don't see anybody but Hanse hitting on a teenager, you mean?
Also Sibkos, yeah.
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>>97503416
Federate Septic Tanks
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>>97503522
The Infiltrator most likely already used joysticks and a transportation pod-setup like the GitS Fuchikomas, with proper cockpits being more common in assault class BA.
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>>97503824
Where is this battle armor from?
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>>97503861
Society TRO.
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>>97503916
Thank you, I did not know such wonders exist.
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>>97503923
We have such sights to show you.
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>>97502312

Technically they gave the plans for the Firestarter Omni to Coventry mechworks, but that was just them trolling and the thing was barely an Omni with the amount of fixed equipment it had.
Still one of my favourites though, next to the BlackJack Omni.
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Did warships ever play a part in clan trials in the homeworlds? Why would they even continue to maintain and produce something that is completely antithetical to clan warfare?
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>>97501737
>Which is why 'red-light districts' and any such 'industry' should be ruthlessly crushed.
Prohibition proves that just makes things worse.

>>97501868
>The monarchs in the setting engage in questionable behaviors but they’re not satanic pedophiles
How do you know?
Seriously, what's stopping them?

>>97502030
>But the mass rape, torture, and cannibalism of children for sadistic fun? That's a fucked up level of evil we've never seen in Battletech.
>>97503266
Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

>>97502489
>eating babies
It's a Modest Proposal!
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>>97503378
>not a linear gradient of development going from Terra out to the edges.
I'd say that this WAS once the case. However, that was at its peak during the post-Reunification Wars Star League, when the exceptions in the Periphiary were generally wrecked.

This state also completely died with the Star League as the strife of the Succession Wars (especially the ones where Warships were active), then the Clan Invasion, then the FedCom Civil War, and finally the Jihad kept adding a huge amount of static to the development map.
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>Sha Yu has a variant called Bulldog
>Look inside
>It's the name of the mech and not related to Operation Bulldog at all
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>>97504332
Should have had a variant called FAC U DAVION DOG!
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>>97502312
There were a number of other omnis floating around for each of the factions, but yes, the Dracs got an early start on them. The downside to that though is that a few of the low-end omnis were still bringing SHS to the table.

For instance, the Capellans had the Men Shen, the League had the Perseus, Davions had the Templar, and Lyrans had the Hauptmann. The Arctic Fox was more of a Kell Hound design.

A downer though is that the Raptor was on it's way to being a DCMS staple, but the Factory on Luthien was destroyed during the Jihad, and it's one of the few Gen 1 IS omni designs that wasn't licensed out to other factions. I wouldn't be surprised if CGL retcons it back into the game during the Ilclan era to drive sales like they did with a bunch of mechs like the Viper for the Raven Alliance or Raijin for Dracs.

I was surprised and honestly disappointed that CGL didn't opt to release all the IS omnis as sets for the Mercenaries kickstarter. After the first wave unseen, they were the closest to that same 'available to everyone' concept, and it would have paired well with the IS Battle Armor.
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>>97504487
We can hold out hope for a Bulldog themed box with IS omnis and other mechwarrior 3 mechs.
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I'm gathering mercs for my company, wanna roll?
>your nation of origin
>weight class
>roll 2d6 for your mech
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>>97504537
Why not using something like this? https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zdswz4c2avek6oing7pyk/3028-3057-Random-Assignment-Rarity-Tables-10.64.pdf?rlkey=s8ywj7tonnw87cgn1n2n7bf0b&e=2&dl=0
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>>97504611
Because why not. Some times simple is best.
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>>97504618
Fair enough.
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Rolled 4, 2 = 6 (2d6)

>>97504537
Rolling for Steiner Football Club, medium, Billy Bob Boll
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>>97504634
>Treb
Could have been worse.
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>>97504537
Why is the Blackjack so rare?
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>>97504662
Its the Mechwarrior RPG RAT. Its old as fuck and not a very good one.
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>>97504701
>new = better
Brain damage.
>>97504662
It's only as rare as you decide it should be, so if you have a complaint take it up with yourself.
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>>97504715
Can you not read the table? How many times does the blackjack show up on it for all nations?
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>>97502177
>worst favorite
The Raven is pretty mediocre outside of its niche, and even then it isn’t spectacular, but I still run it just because it’s cool.

>best favorite
Kingfisher, any variant is fine but I really like the C or H if I want maximum effectiveness.

>>97502647
I made the mistake of giving my brother a royal Black Knight one time, and now he runs it in every single game and I have not managed to put that bastard down a single time. I’ve won on objectives, cored out the whole rest of his team when the time limit hits, knocked it down or otherwise crippled it, but NEVER killed it. It’s like the goddamn Monty Python bit come to life, I hate it so much.
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>>97504662
Guess it wasn't as common when this was written, but I like the simplicity.
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>>97502177
Worst favorite mech is the Marauder 5L. It's so damn expensive but it will 100% kick your shins off.

Best favorite mech is the Jinggau. It looks like a bomber's retarded Chinese offspring, but it has a great movement profile and killer weapons.
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>>97504734
RATS are suggestive aids for when you can't decide what you want.
There is not one single fucking rule in the game that says your choice of mechs is limited based on what colors and symbols you want to paint on them.
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Rolled 1, 4 = 5 (2d6)

>>97504537
>Liao
>Heavy
Celestial Wisdom guide me!
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>>97504715
Even for its time its a very limited and basic RAT as well as dumb as fuck as Davions at very least should have it in its medium rolls.
>>97504747
If I was to guess its assuming you're going to pick from the 3050 variants of the designs but even then that doesn't make too much sense. At least its free of typos.
>>97504762
You're being a bit of a dumbass. Anon asks for people to roll using the provided RAT so naturally going to fucking discuss it. Everything you just said while not untrue is completely irrelevant.
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>>97504160
We’re given no reason to assume such things happened, child rape and torture would be a big enough deal that the writers likely would’ve informed us if such a thing were to occur, especially in a setting as obsessed with going over every little detail as Battletech is
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Rolled 6, 3 = 9 (2d6)

>>97504537
Rolling for a Davion assault, I'm feeling like a Victor.
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>>97504837
I demand this be an AS7-A
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>>97502333
I always found that the lack of interest in IS omnis in the 3060's absolutely pantshittingly retarded. While some did eventually get produced you'd think the combination of using them with BA alone would have seen considerable traction and something all the IS factions would be scrambling to develop.
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>>97503118
Saved. Great work man.
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>>97504537
Marik.
Light.
Lets go...!
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Rolled 5, 3 = 8 (2d6)

>>97504537
Medium Davionman
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Rolled 2, 3 = 5 (2d6)

>>97504537
Marik Lighter reroll because Im retarded.
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>>97504715
The old ones were not great either.
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>>97504926
>Coimmando
>Circuda
>Hackjack
>Centrion
>Trebucket
Feels like fun names for frankenmechs though I am worried I am probably giving CGL ideas.
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>>97504913
Sweet, I like Enforcers. He must have an AC/10 or UAC/10 depending on your tineline.
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Rolled 6, 4 = 10 (2d6)

>>97504537
>steiner
>light
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>>97504884
fccw and jihad were never widely played, succwar/clans have always dominated, its why the later mechs never got much attention.
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>>97504926
It's not nearly as funny, but also
>Urban[space]Mech
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>>97503118
Color the whole thing, you lazy fuck.
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>It can only go slightly above 53 mph so…technically the poster is correct
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>>97504822
Now which of the available Battletech writers would you entrust with those kinds of topics
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Rolled 2 + 1 (1d5 + 1)

>>97504537
Let's try full random
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>>97505130
Most of them desu, Battletech has managed to maintain a respectful view of monarchy
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>>97505147
Weird, I typed 1d5+1d4+2d6. Can multiple dice not be rolled?
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Fun fact, did you know ferro-fibrous armor has the same density as aerogel?
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>>97505112
Can you push a Battlemech to redline over their max speed?
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>>97504884
No universal elite training program means that you don't have the people who could make good use of all the possible configurations you could put on these.

With no pre-arranged dueling culture, there is no point in switching loadouts on the fly.

What's more, your elite operators operating operationally will just find exactly one (1, a single) config they like and train with it until their medium lasers burn out.

You can get 1,5 standard mechs for every Omni, meaning you get three mechs for every two Omnis and six mechs for every lance of Omnis.

Your regular pilots will do better if they only have to bother with one config too.

Your BA is largely built and trained along infantry anti-mech doctrine and you have Vees outta your ass.

In conclusion, if you aren't a Clan, merc or a Lyran noble who're on a strict numerical limit as to many machines they can own and field and/or frequently has to make do with salvage for replacement parts while also fighting Clans, where salvage comes in Clantech and podded, why bother?
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>>97505198
Is it translucent too?
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>>97504822
>child rape and torture would be a big enough deal that the writers likely would’ve informed us if such a thing were to occur
Hasn't torture been repeatedly alluded to?
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>>97505204
I believe that is called MASC. Or a Supercharger.
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>>97505206
I’m not sure but I don’t think so, the description doesn’t indicate that
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>>97505204
According to Solaris rules yes.
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>>97505207
I’m sure there’s torture, especially in the context of interrogations or punishments, but that’s way different than torturing fucking children for fun and snuff films
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>>97505239
>that’s way different than torturing fucking children for fun and snuff films
Nope.
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>>97505204
You can sprint.
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>>97505245
Yes, it is. Nothing in battletech can compare to the evil of what happened on that island.
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Are headpats considered a form of torture?
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>>97503184
She's in her 60's.
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>>97505205
>your elite operators operating operationally will just find exactly one (1, a single) config they like and train with it until their medium lasers burn out
And omnimechs are still better than regular mechs for this because they make repairing damaged components as simple as swapping out the damaged pod with a new one and letting the techs tinker with the damaged pod while the battlemech is fighting with the new one.
The writers made omnimechs an evolution of regular battlemechs with a truly marginal cost increase and then bent over backwards to have people still build regular battlemechs for no reason.
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>>97505298
Pretty much this. The writers were simply retarded is the easiest explanation.
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>>97505254
Only if they're done to someone else in front of your headpat deprived nonbinary catgirl boyfriend
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>>97505298
Don't forget the other, in-universe reason, expense. Omnimechs and omnipods are fucking expensive, not just to buy, but to manufacture, where's traditional battlemech tech is not only easier to make, it's a lot cheaper. What IS omnis exist get sent off to warriors who will make the best use of them, and the masses get standard tech in hordes and droves, so as to keep military costs at a level that perhaps approaches reasonable.
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>>97505251
>Nothing in battletech can compare to the evil of what happened on that island.
Surely you can't be serious...
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>>97505348
I would actually think podding makes things cheaper, because once a component has been podified, it can be sold to anyone with an omnimech and installed in minutes by a group of half-drunk astechs. If manufacturers start offering pod services, then they can get their stuff out to anyone and everyone without having to offer any kind of engineering support to make it functional.
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Rolled 6, 5 = 11 (2d6)

>>97504537
Rockhard here, I fought for Rasalhauge during the Ronin wars and they tried to screw me out of my pay even after I lost my mech fighting for them. So I took one of the heavies they salvaged from the dracs and ran.
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>>97505365
And isn't podding itself not a terribly expensive ordeal?
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>>97505365
Are individual components podded, or are they subassemblies?
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>>97505298
My point being that they aren't going to make use of the actual omni-capabilities either as they'll never, ever change their loadout. They'll just have a swanky, expensive custom ride with some components that are more easy to service.
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>>97505372
>Warhammer
The one and only mech I didn't want, fuck. Guess I'll have to remodel it to Hammerhands.
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>>97505373
>>97505376
Individual components are podded and anything can be podded for 25% of its base cost, and the procedure to pod an item counts as a D grade refit (at least according to my old strat ops book, refit grades have gotten a lot of rules revisions since then)
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>>97505395
+25% isn't insubstantial but it's not too expensive either.
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>>97505358
Anon just wants to read detailed canon Battletech cp snuff
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>>97505419
>Anon just wants to read detailed canon Battletech cp snuff
Well maybe he should have been born a Billionaire/Royal then!
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What are the Taurians actually like? Given the interpretation of them tex videos give most fans are apparently quite wrong
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>>97505419
Isn't there that one novel with the gay serial killer in the first couple chapters? I remember that one having some fucked up stuff. Maybe not guro CP though.
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>>97505426
They’re more like Imperial Mexico than Texas.
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This fucking discussion is why faggots should have been gatekept from everything
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>Hmm, how can I make this topic about queers?
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>>97505419
>>97505424
>>97505427
Just get the Blick novels.
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Aerospace KS???
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>>97505638
>Loren: The working title is Rockets and Rayguns. I think someone else also dubbed it BattleTech: Atomic, which I thought was pretty fun too. It’s like a ‘50s sci-fi revision of BattleTech. So think Robby the Robot, The Day the Earth Stood Still, and stuff like that. Flying saucers and more rounded robotic looks to things, Buzz Lightyear kind of feels.
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>>97505655
It'll be a Fallout knockoff won't it?
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I long for LAMs.
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>>97505655
Battletech is already retro futuristic
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>>97505685
100%, because God forbid they do something cool like give us more plastic minis for mechs that still don't have them.
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>>97505889
I still GM the Mechwarrior as mostly cassette futurism with some exceptions (UAV to scout the mapsheet, the odd holographic display, some old form of internet).
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>>97505917
That seems most accurate. It’s not quite a 60’s understanding of technology, but it is an 80’s understanding of technology.
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>>97505638
>>97505655
Blake willing, it will crash and burn so hard that we'll get some FedCom Civil War and Jihad plastics next. Battlefleet Gothic managed to barely crawl by on 40k memes despite the atrocious kickstarter situation, a Fallout pastiche is destined for failure.
One can only hope and pray for massive losses.
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>>97506010
I lowkey hope for a battlerun box tho.
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>>97506010
>Fallout pastiche is destined for failure.
even the fallout miniature games are incredibly obscure and niche despite the fallout IP currently being mainstream popular, which battletech is not.
This should tell everyone that fallout is a digital franchise and is likely to remain that way, so there is no sense putting money into fallout themed mechs when the mechs are A) already retro and B) there are over 150 Star League to Fedcom Civil War mechs that have not yet been made physically available in any capacity.
Making ilclan mechs is financially retarded, succ wars mechs can be played in ANY game, clan invasion mechs can be played in Very Nearly Any game and fedcom mechs can be played in Most games, whereas ilclan mechs can only be played in a small minority of games, no one wants to buy into that restrictive environment.
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>>97506067
>fallout IP currently being mainstream popular, which battletech is not.
HBO or Netflix could make serious bank with a Malvina centered show, that storyline has a black arab german ambassador as canon in addition to the crazy psycho bitch stronk woman that is Malvina, it fits current producer values without being altered.
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>>97506010
I'm hoping it'll cleave closer to Buck Davion vs Evil Emperor Liao, but I'm ready to be disappointed.
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>>97506067
If Gothic has shown us anything is that they won't do what the fanbase wants until they're dragged screaming over burning coals.
The first AU managed to coast by out of novelty and 40k, I don't think they'll get lucky a second time. Maybe if they went for something a bit more appetizing like WW2-style mechas (Gear Krieg redux?) or even aping Scythe.
But again, as usual, we can only hope that CGL fails and learns.
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>>97506010
I got proxies for Dragoon BA, but if they released an official model, I'd buy it.
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>>97506179
Rather until kickstarter changes it's use policies so that established business entities with a capital stream are forbidden from using the service as a cost cutting measure.
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about to finish printing and start painting a lance consisting of a Highlander, Thug, Talos and a Wolfhound, everything but the Talos picked at random, this will be the first set of mechs from my rescaling by volume project.
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>>97503647
battle armor is a suit you wear
if it has a cockpit you are not wearing it you are piloting it
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>>97506326
Or it has been modified to accommodate an abnormally massive crotch bulge.
Most Elemental suits have a cockpit.
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What gunnery/pilot skills would you typically assign to keshik members?
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>>97506424
Probably nothing worse than a 3. They're some of the best, but they also don't actually see that much action most of the time. So maybe both skills in the 1-3 range for a random member.
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>>97506324
I'm happy, what do you guys think of the scale?
Maybe I should do a Flea and an Atlas to show the extreme ends.
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>>97506326
This anon never saw a Kanazuchi in his life. He does not Honor the Dragon. Boo him.
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>>97505251
>Nothing in battletech can compare to the evil of what happened on that island
If the president did it, then it's not evil. The things that happen in Battletech aren't being done by political leadership I like, so they're more evil by definition.
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>>97506010
Wouldn't it be wonderful if CGL failed completely and the Battletech IP was bought by a competent company like GW? We could have such nice minis for a change.
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>>97506453
An Atlas isn't the extreme end. A Banshee is.
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>>97506628
When scaled by volume they're roughly the same, banshee is a wee bit shorter, negligible though, and its arms are gorilla in comparison.
The atlas still has a slightly wider footprint, though the two are so close that they're effectively the same.
The Thunder Hawk I have actually came out the tallest.
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>>97506652
Banshee is supposed to be notably tall even for its weight class.
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>>97506657
The lore is all over the place with heights of mechs, scaling by sculpt volume is the best way to deal with the issue because even if I was oay with the lore inconsistencies (where a marauder was described as 12 metres in one instance and 15 in another) there is no height statements of any kind for most mechs.
If the banshee was to be taller it'd need arms that were so long in proportion to it's frame.
the only presumption my method has made is an equal density for all mechs, which no mech has any stats for.
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>>97506676
weren't* so long
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>>97506621
>Wouldn't it be wonderful if CGL failed completely and the Battletech IP was bought by a competent company like GW?
Model Sniffers get out!
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>>97506621
>We could have such nice minis
>for a change
"We" already do dumbass, we've been printing them since before CGL existed.
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Say I have 2 hunchbacks, A which is a commander's pride ace custom, and B which is a regular 4G. If A gets its legs blown off on a mission are there rules in campaign play for taking the ones off B to repair A?
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>Loren:There are about five containers of just reprinted ForcePacks and Salvage Boxes on the water or at the warehouse right now. So if you’re missing theInner Sphere Command Lanceor theDirect Fire Lanceor whatever.
>I believe we retired four ForcePacks total from the current line. Everything else got a reprint, and the four ForcePacks are retired; those ’Mechs will be recycled to other projects. So they will not go away, they’ll disappear in different products.
>we just recently retired theClan Invasionbox setbecause it has been out for quite a few years. The rules were already being spread into other products, and by doing that, we are now taking those ’Mechs, and we’re going to create aClan Invasion ForcePack—one ForcePack based on the five ’Mechs that we’re in theClan Invasionbox. They’re not coming out right away, we’re not in a hurry, but by the end of the year, that will be out.
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>>97506621
>a competent company like GW
I'd prefer if those unscrupulous kikes kept a fucking jump away from Battletech.
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>Loren:Yes, but maybe a little different becauseAcesandGothiccame out really late in the year. That will push a small hole into our ForcePack delivery for the new year. We’ve got a couple—two or three—in the warehouse ready to come out, so that’s not going to be a problem. Somewhere about midyear, you may see us not have a ForcePack, but you also may see us withanotherAcesbox, so it’ll be different. I think by the end of the year, I wouldn’t be surprised if you still see the equivalent of another 40-50 ’Mech designs coming out in various products.
>>97506689

>Loren:Of course, I’d like to make them here in the States if we could afford to, but no one wants to pay $27 for a miniature, so we’ll work with what we got.

>We are going to do at least one ForcePack of Abominations to go with theGothicline, and thenGothicis done. That’s it. That’sGothic. I’m glad people enjoyed it. It was a fun little diversion, and now we’re going to be focused onRockets and Rayguns.
>Then after that, we’re doing—I don’t remember what we’re doing. Possibly, maybe, some kind of steampunk-type thing or something. There are five total we’ve already planned for. It’s just going to take a while to get to ’em all.

>We’ve got four box sets planned, at a minimum, for theAcesline. The first one,Scouring Sands, dropped in November. I believe the next one is calledSnowblind, and it will be out somewhere near the summer. I’m reaching now, so don’t hold me to this. I think it comes out late spring, early summer, and then there’ll be one more toward the end of next year. And the fourth one should be released in 2027 somewhere. That will be theAlpha Strike Acesrun.
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>>97506774
>That will push a small hole into our ForcePack delivery
I thought they said gothic would in no way impact anything else that it was 100% developed and produced with assets that woul have otherwise been doing nothing?
Guess we can't expect honesty from a guy who is guilty of embezzlement.
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>>97506735
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>>97506774
>if we could afford to, but no one wants to pay $27 for a miniature
That's weird, my miniatures cost about $1 each to make at home.
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>>97506774
>There are five total we’ve already planned for. It’s just going to take a while to get to ’em all.
Another set of lies as they said the reception of the first would decide if more would be done, but now he admits it was all going to happen regardless right from the start.
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>>97506774
>$27 for a miniature
We were getting them for less than half of that in metals before CGL bought IWM.
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>>97506774
GW would be charging $60 each for a model.
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>>97506826
How's the US manufacturing scene these days, nice and stable right? All the costs are very predictable and so on?
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>>97506676
We do have aerotech if we really wanted to go full autist about sizes and establish baselines as they do give us dimensions for dropships although that presents its own problems because if you somehow assume that the artwork is going to be accurate then while the Union and Overlord give pretty consistent baselines a couple of test measurements I took averaged the Banshee as being 15.1m tall as soon as you add something like the Leopard into the mix and by factoring in things parts like wings as integral to its dimensions then you end up with oddities like some depictions suggesting that no mech over 10m can fit inside the Leopard in a standing configuration.
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>>97506807
They have been blaiming the Aces and the nuTRO3025 for delay, and claiming that the Gothic is innocent
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>>97506842
A bunch of stateside pewter mini makers I've been using for years have kept prices lower than anything CGLs been able to do.
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>>97506926
>>97506842
CGL went out and said that they were raising prices on items impacted by tariffs and rising shipping costs to cover increased costs, and also raising the prices of items that weren't impacted to match those that were to keep pricing uniform.
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>>97506947
Weren't the metals used by IWM not affected by the tarrifs specifically?
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>>97506954
Shush that doesn't fit the narrative!
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>>97506870
>it doesn't match up in the end
Precisely, so you scale the miniarures to each other volumetrically and scale dropships to hold a number of atlas's equal to their mech capacity, then you get out the calipres and figure out how big everything actually is according to necessity.
The writers aren't engineers, so throw their numbers away, work from tonnage.
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>>97506326
>battle armor is a suit you wear
No, that has never been a definitional requirement for BA. BA would still be missing too many technical requirements to be protomechs even if it was.
Pretty much every quad BA is impossible to wear.
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>>97502779
After the Great Refusal Clanners start showing up in weird and wonderful places.
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>>97507055
Unless they have the Oversized quirk. Those mechs are fat bastards
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>>97507157
>Those mechs are fat bastards
Gives me an idea for a question. What mech would he pilot?
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>>97507176
Stone Rhino
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>>97507157
That would be represented in the sculpt, as an anon prior observed, we're already looking at a density equal to aerogel for standard mechs, my downsizing of the omega and rescaling everything to match that might have brought them within spitting distance of an actual metal, though more likely aluminum than steel.
The Turkina for instance, is a little shorter than the King Crab now, but much wider, that girl has some very thick thighs.
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>>97507176
Either what >>97507199 said, or one of the fat missile Banes.
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I like the idea of pilots having body diversity. Not hollywood ugly ass body diversity for check marks by the way. I want the main character and his/her love interest to be generally fit and attractive, but other mercs should be more diverse, like you have the work out maniac that's always ready for the fight if he ever needs to catapult, the fat bastard that almost never leaves the cockpit so who cares about cardio, the slightly chubby and busty girl that doubles as a mechanic, etc.
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Pretty fond of the Warwolf. I love a lot of the advanced and experimental rules dark age mechs.
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>>97507301
>so who cares about cardio
Any mechwarrior, A) that's how you pilot one, it's lie being strapped into a full-body stairmaster and B) it's a sauna in there, there are NO fat mech pilots, period. Fight me.
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>>97506453
Love me some Crystal Meth, i mean mechs
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>>97507363
Forgot the pic.
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>going through old BT videos again
>rewatch Tex's early Timber Wolf video
>it's ok up to the point where he starts talking nonsense about WW2 germany being epic and how you'd rather have a million urbanmechs rather than a madcat despite the fact that you might not have a million pilots on hand
Those early videos were cringe, I'm glad his production budget went up since now we get cool Battletech art.
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>>97507391
>he doesn't know
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>>97507391
There is a vindicator pilot and the king og butte hold iirc who were specified as being fat
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>>97507176
Well the Canon Fat Bastard rode in a Battlemaster...

>>97507391
>there are NO fat mech pilots, period. Fight me.
Canon there is...
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>>97507421
>>97507427
Funny, I literally just killed this guy in my Clans playthrough
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>>97507421
>>97507427
>Valasek mind

>>97507429
LIES, VALASEK LIVES!
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>>97507429
I think you mean his body double.
>sakhan deez nuts
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>>97507432
>>97507435
Imagine if that fat ugly bastard caught Weaver out of her mech...
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>>97507429
He literally laughs in your face as he escapes, either you weren't paying attention or read the game's summary on wikipedia instead of playing or something.
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>>97507432
>subsequent fate remains a mystery
Probably went straight to the MoC to 'retire' and took his cockpit holes with him.
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>>97507421
>>97507424
>>97507427
Oh I know, but it's a violation of the in-universe facts, it is an example of artistic license/author fiat. I am also aware he's supposed to keep a couple slave girls in the mech with him, which I am hypocritically okay with using as a precedent for saying any given mechwarrior of my own forces does.
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>>97507455
>Valasek escaped from Santander's World and reappeared a year later via published diary entries from Vipaava, then part of the Free Rasalhague Republic, and finally 3051 from Tellman IV in the Outworlds Alliance, claiming to have gotten plastic surgery and talking about planning to take revenge on the Clans or else joining a colony ship in need of a leader. However at his advanced age of 72, and with his world conquered, his pirates destroyed, and having no known heirs, his once-feared name faded into obscurity.
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>>97507461
Cope.
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>>97507463
probably died in some backwater bar of a heart attack when some literal nobody young blood called bullshit on his bragging about the good old days, spouting "Vasa-who? no cap never 'eard of him frfr"
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>>97507455
Who knows
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Plump LRM boat piloting wife UOOOOOOOOOOH
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>>97507429
>>97507432
>>97507435
>A man denied his ample foodstuffs
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>>97507461
>>97507391

Battletech isn't pacific rim. You pilot your mech by sitting your ass down in a command couch. It's probably closer to operating a motor vehicle while wearing a dorky hat. You normally won't even get the Gs pulled by fighter pilots. So while militaries might want physically fit pilots, you can probably be a fat fuck and still be somewhat decent at piloting a mech.
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>>97507503
>you can probably be a fat fuck
Sauna
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>>97507489
Lazy Fatass
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>>97507544
I sauna every day and I'm still a fat fuck. Literally all you have to do is eat.
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>>97507544
Smelly fat fuck then. Those hos got hazard pay, and not from being shot at.
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>>97507547
Yes, she sits in the back while I do manly stuff, line breaking, hunting down enemies and opening jars.
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>>97507544
If sweating was such a miracle cure for being fat yu-gi-oh players would be either fat or smelly, not both.
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>>97507544

Fat people exist in hot, humid places.
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>>97507548
>Literally all you have to do is eat.
I consume about 4000 calories of food a day and I'm not fat, how do you do it?
I'm not even joking here, how does a guy get fat? I've tried and failed.
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>>97507576
Eat before you sleep, drink soda and lead mostly a sitting life style for starters.
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Do you think the Falcons completely destroyed that Battlemaster out of spite or is there some solahma wondering why he was put in a beemer with a cockpit sized for two Elementals?
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The enforcer 5D sucks but a ERLL and LBX10 is a simple solid loadout, why didn't any of the later enforcers keep them? Would've preferred that over an ultra 10
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>>97507588
You know, I never wondered if Clans salvage IS mechs. I know they take over mech factories to either retool them for Clan mech production or to equip second line solahma, but never considered them salvaging anything but other Clan tech until perhaps they got really desperate late into the invasion.
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>>97507588
Sorry, Jags, not Falcons.
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>>97507582
I have done this, I eat throughout the entire day, hell when I wake up in the night I stop by the fridge on the way back to bed to get another thing to eat.
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>>97507588
>Falcons
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>>97504537
Let's see if I can get a cool Liao medium.
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>>97507596
Mechwarrior bondsmen are often put back in the machine they were piloting when they got beat, rebuilt with clantech to replace whatever was destroyed on the way down.
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>>97507598

Congratulations, you have the metabolism most people wish they had.
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>>97507501
I know what the next game of mechwarrior I'm running will be
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>>97507605
Well I'd like to get a little fat in the winter.
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>>97507421
>>97507427
Hail to the king baby
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>>97507598
Then you're either doing it wrong or have a fast metabolism, some people stay thin almost no matter how much they eat (helps if they smoke) and some people with a slower one will be at least a bit chubby their whole lives even if they eat nothing but salads unless they really start working out.
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Rolled 3, 1 = 4 (2d6)

>>97507603
Forgot to actually roll.
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>>97507617
>even if they eat nothing but salads
This makes it worse, if you deprive your body of nutrition it clings on to every thing it gets in desperation.
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>>97507623
You know what I meant.
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>anon refuses to believe mechwarriors can be fat because his subjective experience of diet and nutrition is that of a godlike metabolism
Mother fucker.
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>>97507627
>humble bragging
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>>97507633
I say we track him down, pause to catch our collective breath, then beat him to death.
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>>97507641
How about we make him sit down and actually read the lore so he can stop being a tourist?
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>>97507489
>>97507503
>you can probably be a fat fuck and still be somewhat decent at piloting a mech
>>97507554
Fat Mechwarrior Wives!
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What can be done to offset the Stalker II's turbobutt penalties on piloting skill checks?
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>>97507675
Pull a Grand Turtle and make it a Quad?
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>>97507659
There's nothing fat about her aside from the tits, her waist looks thinner than that of a Warhammer. A plump wife is where it's at.
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>>97507588
SaKhan Weaver crushed it under the foot of her Mad Cat so I don't think so.
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>>97507682
If we were changing the design itself, then we could just swap out some of the stuff that's giving it penalties.
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Would you say assault dropships are more common by ilClan?
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>>97507687
True but I don't have that much chubby Mech Pilot art...

>>97507697
>If we were changing the design itself, then we could just swap out some of the stuff that's giving it penalties.
I mean you're probably going to have to drop something to make it usable...
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Would it be more common to move a battalion of mechs via an overlord or three unions?
And also how common are overlords compared to unions(for the great houses)?
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>>97507707
Unions are relatively "uncommon", and Overlords are relatively "rare". Danaises are apparently common, however.
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>>97507753
Danais was the only design the star league let the periphery make after the Reunification Wars, so a lot of shipyards were cranking them out. It's a dead simple cargo brick of a design. It goes forward, it docks, it has empty space inside it. That's it, cheap and simple. And you can modify it to almost military standards. It has enough room to carry one or two lances and still have a similar amount of generic cargo to a Union. Could do a Company if you rip out the Small Craft bays, and with only two doors on the generic bay, you probably would want to for combat insertions.
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>>97507781
The Danais is probably the reason why the Union was probably never actually at risk. If I remember right, the Excalibur had a scare because of the drive systems no longer being in production, but the Mule's drive system ended up being used instead (albeit at a lower performance). The same could have probably happened with the Union if their lines ever were threatened.
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>>97507675
Use a 4/3 pilot.
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>>97507614
Consume more calories than you expend. If you aren't gaining weight after a few weeks of this you might have digestive problems.
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>>97507921
Eww
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Rolled 1, 5 = 6 (2d6)

>>97504537
Kurita Heavy GO!
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Mech pilot wife? Sorry, my wife IS the mech.
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>>97507427
Im so glad hes in Mechwarrior 5 clans.
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>>97507400
UV is necessary to photograph transparent resin.
I'm going for a Rhodesian Brushstroke camouflage on these guys and I may be regretting it soon as I'm on layer 2 of the base coat and this light olive-khaki is a bitch.
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>>97507544
Won't make you skinny, just means you're sweaty on top of being fat. A sauna is a nice addition to actual exercise, not a substitute for it.
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>>97501956
Is the old Norse religion a cannon religion in the Rasalhague regions? I swear I saw it on some map somewhere but I can’t find it.
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Rap artist Mechwarrior who makes terrible music videos with his combat footage
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>>97508108
Musical genres don't survive a thousand years, especially when they aren't musical.
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The change Clans made to how Jump Jets work is fucking great, you can LARP as a LAM just flying around the battlefield like a 30 ton bee
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Sun Tzu Liao will surely come back, right?
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>>97508134
Lol. Lmao, even. Try opening a book sometime.
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>>97507985
In universe Nigerian princes. Absolutely amazing.
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>>97508170
You tell me whether anyone still makes or listens to whatever the fuck they were playing in Medieval Europe. And not autistic historians, I mean music with a significant following.
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>>97507985
that's my pirate wife, and the treasure is rightfully mine btw
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Why do some Invasion era omnis have out of order config letters? Hellbringer D (plasma) and E (HAG) come after F (not-Hammerhands). Did the scientist caste have a multi-generational stroke?
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>>97507976
>Im so glad hes in Mechwarrior 5 clans.
It was a surprise for sure, but a welcomed one!

>>97508179
>I mean music with a significant following.
>Fucker has never heard of Bardcore...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRIfsFefatg
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>>97508228
Anon said a /significant/ following
not a thousand people or less on the entire planet
I myself listen to old German marches, and even choiral renditions of even older German music like Landsknecht songs, but I'm not deluded enough to think that qualifies as normal.
And even then none of that is more than a few centuries old, music a thousand years old? it's hard for people attempting to reproduce it to even be sure of what it was supposed to sound like.
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>>97508228
>some ren fair remix of a song that isn't even 20 years old
Moron.
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>>97508223
Well, you see, CGL retconned stuff into earlier eras. Previously, H skipped whatever to be the OG Heavy Laser variant. So there was no F loadout. Then CGL slotted in an F in ReCog 1, an ilClan product that suddenly invented an F that always existed since 3054 despite never being mentioned before and being published in 3152 RL-timeline-wise.

btw, this also why 3025R retcons fucking suck. You want a Thug or a Crab and you're not a robe or a bribed Drac? Wait until the 3050's, faggots.
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>>97508257
>btw, this also why 3025R retcons fucking suck. You want a Thug or a Crab and you're not a robe or a bribed Drac? Wait until the 3050's, faggots.
PREACH!
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>>97507427
Fuck it, I ate the op!
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>>97508245
>>97508250
Two Cellos!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT3SBzmDxGk
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>>97507687
>>97507704
Built for PPC
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>>97508245
The main difference is that over time the systems to compose and reproduce music have become more and more codified and (more importantly) well documented. We have to infer exactly how a lot of ancient music sounds because the way they actually recorded it wasn't super precise and omitted some important info. Even modern sheet music isn't strictly perfect, but its shortfalls are very well documented and the attempts to replace it are constant (and almost certainly futile). We can read music from a century or two ago and reproduce it exactly if we want to, because every little change in how it's been composed is documented.
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>>97508333
anon, they couldn't even maintain key logistical technology or the weaponry and systems of their prized battlemechs.
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>>97508351
Musical notation is essentially a written language, and they didn't lose any of those.
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>>97508370
Sure they did, nobody in the universe is noted as speaking swahili or tagalog.
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>>97508416
Incorrect, they speak Tagalog on Barstow.
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>>97508436
The fedsuns host the filipino population?
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>>97508464
Apparently. They're also on Brusett at least.
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>>97508163
Do you mean IJJs+Partial Wing? Because I'm not aware of a rule change regarding Clantech JJs.
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>>97508108
Viper the Rapper's new album, my mech keeps overheating because I won't stop smoking crack in it
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>>97508502
What's up with that
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>>97507441
>I hope you're not too banged up after this, I'll be sure to give you a more 'personal' introduction after I pry you out of that pretty little mech of yours..."
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>>97508502
Viper is a national treasure and ya'll cowards don't even batchall.
My wife is hooked on him ever since No Tarrifs on Chinese crack.
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>>97508436
then find swahili, it really doesn't matter which random languages I pulled out of my ass, if we go systematically through the thousands spoken today we will find not even hundreds specifically noted in battletech, you're missing the forest to focus on one tree.
And just because any given language survived doesn't mean the written works of that language survived.
If musical notation in it's modern form survived there is nothing about that that inherently means musical genres of today survived, certainly not those marketed to gutter trash, if anything of today survived it would be things valued by the wealthy and aristocratic, like how classical music is the stuff that was valued by the wealthy snobbery, we have the operas of Wagner, not the street fiddling of whosit from the pub down the way of where his operas were performed.
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>>97508050
There are neo-Norse pagans today, I would assume they would still exist. With deep Scandinavian culture apparently existing under a state that officially supports Shinto, it would make sense to me for some kind of synthesis or syncretism to have developed for propaganda reasons that would have then gone its own way whenthe FRS was declared.
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>>97508526
>the street fiddling of whosit from the pub down the way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9a8pVGa1Mo
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>>97508556
there are tens of thousands of street fiddling nobodies in any given city in any given era, show me a listing of even 100 per city per era by name.
You have heard of "the exception that proves the rule" right?
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>>97508564
Sounds like some is buttmad street fiddling will out live Wagner...
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>>97508179
Well, folk songs are usually popular. I'm sure there's one you can date back all the way to Medieval times
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How do infantry and other non mechanized forces deal with battlemechs before battle armor was developed / looted from clans?
I understand in general the answer is "They want to avoid them"
But what about when they have to? Rocket launchers would be the equivalent of a single S or LRM right? And most mech can take a good few of those.
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>>97508574
Wagner is a retelling of ancient myth, wagner has been retold in tolkien and again in star wars, all three are merely changing hands in the passing down of a story that is older than any known civilization on the planet, Flight of the Valkyries may be forgotten, but the story it is a part of will go on for another thousand years and more, as it has survived multiple millenia already.
And that's part of the point here, the format is ever changing, it is only the cultural message that will remain.
rap has no deep message value, it will pass as soon as it is not being forced upon society, those hat partake in it's creation are only concerned with momentary fame and gain for themselves, there is no desire to preserve anything of substance with it, it is endless gutter ramblings about drugs, sex and petty violent crime. To survive centuries a message must have something deep that speaks to the human soul.
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>>97508632
>it is endless gutter ramblings about drugs, sex and petty violent crime
But that's ninety percent of the Country Music Genre!!!
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>>97508622
It's abstracted. They're supposed to be using such heavy weapons and then shoot a whole lot of them to deal meaningful damage. Regular infantry units come as platoons, so there are a lot of dudes per hex.
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>>97508622
Anti-mech jump infantry use swarm tactics to deliver remote detonated satchel charges directly into joints and as close to between armor plated and weapon mounts as they can stick them.
Regular infantry mostly just try not to get noticed unless they're in good hard cover and have man portable SRMs or something similar. Lorewise, at least. Rules wise, they just shoot at the mech and do some number of 2 point hits to it.
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>>97508614
Die Ritter von Sickingen, or Die Sickingenlied.
there are a handful of other examples like it but they are the cream of a much larger selection from their era, most of which did not survive.
Most such things are like the story of Beowulf, which is a retelling of Hercules, which is a retelling of an older story which shares the same origin as the tale of Indra fighting his serpent, the story of St. George fighting a dragon is another retelling of the same mythos.
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>>97508636
which is equally gutter trash in it's majority content, though it at least has the deeper Germanic tradition of the Guitar which it is preserving.
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>>97508632
>endless gutter ramblings about drugs, sex and petty violent crime
90% of rap is about relationship troubles lol
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Well this look familiar
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>>97508659
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>>97508659
What, first time seeing the Dougram? Watch the whole anime, BT came directly from it.
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>>97508659
It should. BT and that anime got a history.
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>>97508663
>BT came directly from it.
Incorrect.
Battletech started out with mech creation rules and used a number of anime mechs as examples for how to use those rules to stat out a mech, these quickly became adopted into the canon as players just took these premade record sheets instead of making their own mechs.
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>>97508649
>the deeper Germanic tradition of the Guitar
The fuck are you talking about?!

Now here is how they rock out in the Combine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=564u39PJfUI
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>>97508697
the Guitar is German, figure it out kiddo.
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>>97508705
>the Guitar is German
Guitar is Spanish to Greek...
Only a few of the Guitar's probably ancestors could even be considered Germanic, and all are derivative of earlier chordophones in any event.
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So how much stronger Dougram is compared to the Shadow Hawk? Based on the anime depiction
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>>97508726
post-ww2 revisionism, the spanish didn't found the united states and canada, the spanish did not give birth to their country western culture.
a great deal of north american culture is german in origin, I daresay the majority of it, if you consider the fact that the french and english both descend from german tribes then it is inarguably the vast majority of it.
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>>97508756
Holy hell Nazianon, you seriously going to pull this "DA FADALAND IZ DA ORIGIN OF VESTERN CULTURE" bullshit?
The fucking Modern Guitar is from SPAIN, it's THE SPANISH GUITAR!!!
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>>97508526
20th century rock and metal are explicitly stated to have survived, rhonda snord plays them from the loudspeakers mounted on her custom highlander.
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>>97508683
You saying the Battledroids dudes never even looked at tbe Battle of Stanrey game?
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>>97508748
The Dougram was a juggernaut of destruction that tore through enemy Combat Armors across two continents and IIRC even won a fight at sea. It survived the Deloyer revolution but was scuttled by its pilot to keep anyone else from using it.
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>>97508799
>through armor critical
indirectly felt rage
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>>97508799
Shadow Hawk is a wonder weapon. Wolverines are T-72 analogues. Someone fucked up in translating stats to these machines.
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>>97507687
absolute plap goddess
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>>97508852
>Wolverines are T-72 analogues
That's the Dragon
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>>97508852
Every time someone tries to improve the Shad they produce something strange or esoteric instead of just slapping Clan equipment on the base design, even the Clans.
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new thread?
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>>97508683
Partially incorrect, Battletech is most just not!Robotech the legally distinct table top.
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>>97508799
To be fair, the Dougram had an edge tech wise against the enemy mechs that let it react slightly faster due to the planet"s conditions, which the enemy figured out and closed the gap to later. Otherwise the Dougram is still a very strong machine but you gotta give a lot the credit to the pilot himself.
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>>97508936
Not until you promise to not talk about or mention trannies or left-leaning political adversaries or opponents in any way, even if you think it's provoked or deserved.
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>>97509020
if that's the price of a new thread I hope we never have one again
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>>97509020
I'm not the schizo doing that tho
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>>97507687
Not a very flattering pic.
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Is Liao more of a light green compared to the star league green?
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Rolled 1, 2 = 3 (2d6)

>>97504537
Davion F-C Heavy. Arkantor Stevenson.
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>>97509146
Liao green is generally depicted as bright green, close to lime green, while Davion green is darker (more like pine green), and SLDF is olive drab.
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>>97509229
liao confirmed for using faggot flouro asian ricer green.

sldf confirmed for boring

davion confirmed for best british racing green class
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>>97501557
>glass floor leading directly to space
I can't see how that will be a problem
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>>97509261
It's not glass. It's transparent armor, same as a 'mech's cockpit.
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>>97509264
How does a transparent material protect against lasers?
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Painted up some mechs.
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>>97509414
Turns the laser into a harmless rainbow through diffraction
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>>97509561
>Turns the laser into a harmless rainbow
Fucking CGL trannies have to make everything a Pride symbol, don't they?
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>>97509456
>Atlas and Phoenix Hawk
Mechcommander scheme?
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>>97509621
Looks to by the LCAF Royal Guard.
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>>97507427
>>97507432
What a legend of a man.
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>>97509633
Thought they'd have a bit more gold down the sides for Royal Guard but can see it.
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>>97509615
I guess Physics is gay now
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>>97509667
always has been
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>>97510087
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>>97510087
New thread!

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