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Ral Zarek edition

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>Previously
>>97859354

>TQ
Fav planeswalker from a lore/personality pov?
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>>97864698
You posted him.
>>97864294
>This is just Recurring Nightmare
No, Recurring Nightmare's one strength that none of its imitations have is that it's untouchable by non-counterspells. Because bouncing it back to hand is a cost, you can do it right after it hits the battlefield, before anyone can try to Disenchant it.
Chthonian Nightmare's ETB trigger lets the opponents destroy/exile it before you can use it.
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>>97864719
I forgot to add that, of course, Nightmare's primary strength is that it's doable with 3 mana, so it's turn 3 reanimation, and with Dark Ritual, turn 1 or 2.
This new artifact can't do it. It's turn 3 play only if you got Llanowar Elves turn 1, Cauldron of Essence turn 2, turn 3 activate. Which gives the opponent a full turn to disrupt the plan.

While Recurring simply plops and does its job before anyone can do anything about it.
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>tq
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>>97864698
>TQ
she was my favorite until her stupid ass got compleated and died
now all that remains of her is her rat son
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>>97864823
Moonfolk counts as rabbit.
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>>97864831
I guess

do you think that Patron of the Moon would be considered a racist stereotype today?
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>>97864882
i hope so, wotc needs to clean this game up if they want it to grow.
there are still too many problematic cards
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>>97864889
wtf
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>>97864698
Stop baking new threads the minute an active one hits the bump limit
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>>97864698
how does one go from RU to mono-B?!?
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>>97865159
It's called being from an alternate universe.
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>>97864698
>TQ
Gideon, died for (worst character) Liliana's sins
Garruk, did nothing wrong and was removed from The Group because of Liliana's sins
Dack, I liked a morally dubious UR character that isn't all about science and random chaos magic
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>>97864698
>TQ
I like Jace for the most part. I'm not so hot on his current villain arc, it feels a bit hamfisted, but maybe it'll pan out alright.
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>>97865183
>Liliana's sins
She's a precious bean who's done nothing that can't be forgiven.
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>>97864698
Are you ready for some heroes after Strixhaven anons?
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>>97865201
If they give me a Darkhawk card I'll be moderately happy. I expect nothing that good though. There's a lot of potentially good things that could come of it if you're into Marvel but I expect it'll just be "characters what was in the movies" mostly. We'll probably see a Danny Rand, which is something, though it seems like they're gonna give him a duo card with Luke because there was a Heroes for Hire art shown.
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>>97865183
I can't relate to Dack because he didn't simp for the hot Grixis lady.
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>>97864698
>TQ
Urza. He is the only one who has actually felt like a planeswalker.
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>>97865226
This. Depowering planeswalkers was the worst thing they did narratively. I understand they wanted to make a shit-ton of them and that's why, but it also made them 1000% less interesting.
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>>97865226
He is also lucky enough to be the star of the only good mtg book.
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>>97864698
>TQ
Dunno about favorite, there are several I like for their character design or because they did something cool at some point. Since nobody's said Sorin I guess I'll say Sorin. Although my reason for liking him isn't really that he's cool but rather that he's such a colossal bum who gets no respect from anyone. So it's less to do with his actual character and more how it's been utilized. He's fun that way.
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>>97865191
>it feels a bit hamfisted
>a bit
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>>97865270
read some other books?
also the stories published at mtg.com are really good, i loved the duskmourne arc for example
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>>97865347
>i loved the duskmourne arc for example
Good for you. I think it was fine, but I would have liked if more of the story had been told from the point of view of some of the plane's indigenous denizens instead. It's not so much a gripe with Duskmourn's story specifically, but it exemplifies it. I don't mind the more serialized storytelling and interconnected multiverse setting in principle, but it'd be nice if it was even possible anymore to get something more self-contained like the original Kamigawa, Guildpact or Lorwyn-Shadowmoor storylines.
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>>97865347
>also the stories published at mtg.com are really good
There is no quicker way to invalidate yourself than this.
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>>97864882
>blue ramp
That's racist
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>>97865226
Urza also has the benefit of being a morally dubious madman, which gives his character actual depth instead of being one dimensional like most planeswalkers
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/secrets-of-strixhaven-down-to-the-lake-alone
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>the eternal soijak
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>>97865452
>Urza also has the benefit of being a morally dubious madman
That also describes Jace and nobody likes him.
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Final SOS story, the Witherbloom side-story. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/secrets-of-strixhaven-down-to-the-lake-alone
>Dina's leading some Witherbloom students who've found a weird dying bird, which she thinks looks kind of like somebody in a costume and the students seem too forcibly excited over
>A vampire in the group, Morphia, bites the dying thing to sample its blood and apparently also its thoughts, and Lorenin, whoever that is, asks her what it was doing, and Morphia basically says it's a gliding bird, it glided for a long ass time, and they get to work on figuring out this thing's deal
>A third student, Basil, an elf, is clearly far more queasy about seeing such a thing die, and Dina moves to comfort him over it
>She looks at Morphia and Lorenin and tries to figure out what the pair's deal is, comparing it to whatever she and Killian have going on and hoping they don't look as insufferable together as this pair does
>Basil urges them to hurry up, they have to get to the lake by nightfall
>We get some more exposition of what's going on, Basil's partner Mertyn died some time ago and it sent him into a bit of a depressive spiral which Dina tried to help him out with, and he seemed to be refusing to even commit to joining Witherbloom and such
>Lorenin says they'll see Mertyn soon enough, Basil says they're never going to see Mertyn, just 'something else'
>Morphia goes "we'll see him, learn what he has to say, then move on"
>Dina offers more comfort, how it's odd seeing somebody after they've died, which is a common thing for mages after all
>That doesn't quite work out and Basil gets quiet and just carries on down the path, leading the rest to awkwardly pack up and catch up while Dina curses herself for fucking that up
>A little later, they've got a shelter going and Dina's instructing the group to, when they see Mertyn's revenant, don't follow it alone
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Imma be frank I'm looking at mystical archive and it's physically painful how kino the Japanese prints are
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>>97865524
>There's some talk and banter after while Dina makes sure the shelter's all good, it's an old abandoned mobile lab
>And then there's a knock at the door, which feels like it's a common beat in these stories of idle conversation being interrupted by
>Lorenin goes to open it up while the others stay put, and hey it's Mertyn's ghost
>Mertyn's dressed the same as he was when he died in, apparently, a potions lab accident and he greets Lorenin like the old friend he is
>Lore immediately refutes going to the lake with him, but Mertyn tries to insist, talking about all the cool shit it has
>Lorenin eventually just shuts the door on him
>It's likely Mertyn will try again the next two nights, with Morphia and then Basil, so Lore just wants it over with and gets to bed
>Next day, they're off gathering ingredients and shit to pass the time, they find that bird again only to find it's decayed rapidly, which they discuss for a bit
>Back at the shelter for dinner and the knock comes again
>Mertyn talks to Morphia, and apparently won't even try to convince her to go to the lake this time, rather the revenant tries to convince her he really is the same Mertyn, telling her what she knows about him
>And Morphia isn't buying it, because it's more what it thinks she wants to hear rather than things he'd say
>Then he abruptly hugs her, whispers something in her ear, then she slams the door in his face
>Basil asks what he said, Morphia at first says nothing, but then says it was a plea to go to the lake to see a cool tree spirit that is constantly bleeding, but that was sort of a bad attempt to get her to come
>Morphia then says it feels like the revenant was missing something he had in life, and is clearly shaken nonetheless so Dina offers to make tea
>Next morning, Basil is gone, reading a book by the lake, and Dina joins him
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WHAT ARE STRIXHAVEN'S SECRETS?!
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>have to wait another two months until a spoiler season I care about
Life is suffering. At least we're 2/3rds done with all shitty UW sets for the year.
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>>97865569
>Basil asks why she's here, if she wants to teach them something or if she's just wanting to capture this spirit
>Dina says it can be both, Basil asks why she wants to capture it
>She says to know, and also to protect people, because this thing HAS killed people before
>Basil asks if Dina thinks his group is weak for being so broken up by losing Mertyn when Dina and her cohort lost so much more in the Invasion
>Dina says no, then tries to explain that grief eats you up regardless, he asks when it ends, she says it doesn't, it only declines
>He doesn't want it to decline, she says there's no real choice, then they go to get breakfast
>And at night, the third knocking comes
>Mertyn looks ready to go on a date this time, and wordlessly extends a hand to Basil who himself takes it wordlessly and oop there they go
>Dina and the others immediately rush out after, getting to the lake and finding the two, heads in each other's arms while a shape arises from beneath the lake's waters
>Dina urges the two to save Basil, because apparently Willowdusk told her that she should take a step back during things like this, only stepping in if they needed it
>Aaand the Devotion, which the thing is called, has immediately frozen Morphia up to her ankles, burning Lorenin with vapor and Basil's stumbling onto the shore while Mertyn has, of course, vanished
>Morphia does something with a talisman to melt the ice, the Devotion sends huge waves against her
>Lorenin's kind of just tanking the waves and keeps trying to push forward, Morphia gets to his side, pulls something out of his robe, and they do something together with what's apparently some volcanic rock
>But then the Devotion just sort of picks them up and separates them, and Dina is about to intervene when Basil sends out a burst of raw magic at the thing
>The Devotion falters and seems to be defeated or dead and falls back to the lake after that
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>>97865596
The secret is that this set fucking blows ass.
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>>97865516
But Urza was that with no holds barred. Jace is maybe 10% like that and 90% bland as fuck.
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>>97865603
>The sample they got is the skull it had, the only physical part amidst an otherwise elemental body
>Dina's back making tea while the gang all gets dried up and basically says she wasn't trying to teach them, she was trying to get them to learn
>She's about to start a lecture to Basil who cuts her off, saying he's heard enough lectures about death being part of life by now
>So instead Dina tells him a story, about the Brittleblight, the plague that destroyed her home, the thing she cured
>She wasn't able to cure it because she's a genius, she did it because she devoted herself to doing it, and basically says for all that, she's still standing, and learning to live life with all that is part of what Witherbloom is all about
>The maybe-couple of Lorenin and Morphia show some minor affection while Basil just sort of awkwardly drinks his tea, then asks what the Devotion had to teach them, and Dina says she doesn't know, but it seemed to be grieving too
>Next morning, Dina finds the three out at the lake, Basil holding the Devotion's skull and about to return it to the lake, and Dina remembers Willowdusk teaching her about that she might lose students through no fault of her own, that they've learned all she can teach
>And Basil says he just doesn't want to be a mage anymore, and he puts the skull back, looks at the three of them, gives a nod and walks away
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Seems alright.
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>>97865627
Kinda surprised it's instant speed, they usually restrict these sorts of 'surprise graveyard tricks'.
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>3 mana
At least it's instant speed.
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>>97865627
>265x370
I can't admire her pretty face at that resolution.
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>>97865627
Holy shit, they managed to capture my ex-wife perfectly in a card. She is an eternal student and still takes classes even after joining the university's faculty.
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>>97865627
> gets discarded, then exiled, for a brony fanfiction
> shoulder pads
what is wotc trying to tell me?
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>>97865654
she cheated on you with some higher IQ uni student right?
you should have grabbed some books instead of playing a kids card games, fucking midwit.
imagine the fun that zoomer is having plowing your wife.
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>>97865599
Bad bait, isn't believable that someone is excited for marvel.
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>>97865672
>>97865414
>you shouldn’t like those things...BECAUSE!
grow up
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>>97865668
She can do whatever the fuck she wants now - I'm married to a big titty goth mommy (not even joking, but believe what you want) these days and couldn't be happier.
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>>97865704
>I'm married to a big titty goth mommy
gonna need to see that, blur her face obviously.
no, no, don’t be a faggot now.
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>>97865704
Pics or it didnt happen

Also if any of that is true, I'm happy you found a life that makes you happy.
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>Strixhaven is so gay they'd bully girls like this for not looking like their kind of merfolk
I heard they were all queers over there but this is ridiculous.
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>>97864823
Sad.
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>>97865735
I hate this rat and his stupid haircut
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>>97865735
God that trailer was ass.
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>>97864698
Planeswalker or nuwalker? Those are very different questions with very different answers.
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>>97864831
Even tumblerinas cannot stomach drawing fanart consistent with wotc's artstyle LOL
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>>97864823
Why did fa/tg/uys like a decade ago keep telling me Tamiyo was lesbian?
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>>97866008
Because there's no proof that she's straight.
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>>97866008
Everyone involved in mtg is gay, even you
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>>97865798
For what it's worth I think Maro got the message that "haunted house plane" sounded cool but that the focus and presentation rubbed people the wrong way.
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>>97866081
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>>97864698
Bros?
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>>97865704
Where does one find marriageable goth mommies these days?
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>>97866137
>Bi
>Bolas
He's gay.
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>>97866153
Midwestern waffle houses
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>>97866085
Well there were good elements it's just the survivors... Looked like new people exploring the house, not like 'people who've been surviving this hellworld for centuries'.
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The green paradigm card is basic but, hey.
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Pox 2.
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>>97866202
>Detention Bog
Heh.
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>>97866137
It's true tho. I'll bet more people remember Bolshack Dragon than have even heard of Negro Ball-ass
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>>97866229
More like Ballsack Dragon amirite?
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>>97866137
let's see
>those all had an anime
hmm, makes you think
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>>97866202
>round down
shit card
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>>97866262
Technically speaking that means there's times where Pox would do more than Pox Plague, doesn't it. If they had 1 life, 1 card, 1 permanent, etc.
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>>97864698
>TQ
Can I say Elspeth? I think she's underrated.
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>>97866270
yup, it could've easily costed BBBB or even BBB, rounding down means it's never going to actually answer a single threat
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>>97866191
>just the survivors
I don't think it's just the survivors. The set has more glimmers than zombies and that's a fucked up imbalance.
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>>97866085
from the mouth of the man that told us that white Phyrexians were too "icky" according to some
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>>97866081
checks out
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>TQ
Easy
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>>97866328
They obviously don't want the card to be good because it can hit lands even though 99% of the time it happens that's basically a choice on the opponent's end.
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>>97866382
>They obviously don't want the card to be good
I know, that's what so frustrating, if you want to make a reference card but you don't actually want to make it good, why even fucking bother making it in the first place?
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>>97866381
She's an entertaining knucklehead. Like she arrives on a new plane and after one quick exchange with the locals she decides to pick a fight with god.
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>>97866392
>decides to pick a fight with god.
and won
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>>97866386
Because that's like 80% of their design space right now. Referencing older sets.
>It's easier than making fully original cards
>Gets memberberry sales
>Baits retards if you have recognizable effect on dogshit card
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>>97866422
The rest of their designs are +1/+1 counter variations. The current DEI RnD team needs to be repealed and replaced.
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>>97866199
Probably the most boring of them all. Red and Black are the best because they give you value by themselves. Green and Blue need you to have a board already going, and White needs you to have relevant cards in your graveyard.
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>>97866458
You say this but realistically what would YOU be doing if you were told to make 1800 cards every year?
>I wouldn't-
and now your Hasbro overlords have taken you aside and put you on a PEP to make 2100 cards next year. If you don't do it you're fired.
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>>97866472
I would repeatedly come up with broken combo shit that would get banned in every format, thus making them essentially meaningless cards because people can't play with them
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>>97866498
Balance team doesn't ban any cards because they were told they were banning too many cards and it was eroding trust in product value. You have now created a worse format than Eldraine.
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>>97866511
That's even better. Just crash and burn this game already.
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Return to New Capenna will turn things around.
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>people are now so desperate they want hat sets to come back
grimmest
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>>97866570
Well yeah. We complained about themepark sets like Innistrad, so they came up with hat sets like Thunder Junction, and people got nostalgic for Innistrad. We complained about hat sets, so they came up with UB. Only natural people want to hit the "fuck go back" button to an era that looks less shite by comparison.
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What is his endgame?
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>>97866609
Opening the floodgates for a gay furry to take control of the story.
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>>97866562
you mean return to alara
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>>97866562
New Capenna was peak kino and i'm tired of pretending it was not.
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>>97866562
I hate art deco, I hate new york, I hate flappers, fuck capenna, fuck you
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>>97866648
>I hate art deco
>I hate flappers
Wtf why?
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>>97866648
>i'm gay and have shit taste
ok?
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>>97866609
He's Lim-Dul, he just wants a body again and Lili WAS his option but that didn't work out and he's kind of stuck right now without anybody to torment.
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>>97866583
>Only natural people want to hit the "fuck go back" button to an era that looks less shite by comparison.
That would mean going back to pretty women and masculinity, haha good luck with that with current wotc you have better luck with an elden ring UB
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>>97866609
Befriend the dead fat men of Shandalar.
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A few threads ago, I, Monkman, was mocked for hoping there were monks in nuLorwyn. I want to take this opportunity to say fuck you to those people. Here are two bits of official Lorwyn lore on monks. I even used the example of treefolk monks. Fuck you people.

>Adair River Span. Eschewing weapons, Adair River Span is a mighty oak monk who wanders the forests seeking out opportunities for proving his prowess in combat. Stories are told of how he once fought two giants at once, reducing both to tears, one with his fists, the other with his insults. It's said that on a bet he once dipped his roots into the Honeystone River and drank it dry. Adair is a good friend of Flann and is currently seeking her. He doesn't know that Fionnsutha has take over the mantle of The Wanderer.

>The Ember Fell Monastery
Using the borrowed power, she flew to the place of her birth, the Mount Tanufel. Here she was attacked by the flamekin monks of Ember Fell monastery, who asked her to enter the order and make her ascension in the Path of Flame properly. Ashling refused, and the monks animated a huge stone titan to fight with her. With the unexpected help from Colfenor's sapling and the groundling fae under the leadership of Endry, the giant was bound to the ground. Later, she freed the giant again to attack the monastery itself. The leader of Ember Fell let the giant crush the walls and gates, then obliterated him. He repeated that Ashling must undergo a certain ritual to ascend on her path properly.
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>Monkschizo
I prefer Whiteschizo honestly
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Strixhaven 1 was better than Secrets of Strixhaven.
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WTF have they done!?
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>>97866753
I don't think it's "whiteschizo" at this point, more like "whitemanpointingoutthefuckingobvious". Have you seen the cards in SOS?
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>>97866790
Old Hogger vs New Hogger
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>>97864823
It's funny how almost nobody died during the multiverse ending scale invasion except Tamiyo who they went crazy lengths to kill as hard as possible
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>>97866794
>moves the goalpost whenever he's shown good white cards
>moves the goalpost whenever he's shown white tournament results
>is arab
>KIKES KIKES KIKES KIKES KIKES
Yeah nah he's definitely a schizo
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>>97866695
>elden ring
Yeah if we wanted trans representation I guess. Christ, the whole DLC of that game was about gay sex. Even WotC hasn't had a whole set where the main plot was a queer wedding (yet).
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>>97866799
who?
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>>97866813
i never played roll simulator, but elden ring dlc is pozzed? thought the chinks were based in that regard
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>>97866827
It's just a classic case of "it's OK when Japan does it." Weebs always have some mental gymnastics they can do to convince themselves Ranma and Poison are secretly based. Soulsborne games are mostly extremely woke.
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It's kinda fucked up that angels exist in all monocolors except green.
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>>97866813
>Even WotC hasn't had a whole set where the main plot was a queer wedding (yet)
You dont have to cope this hard wotc already had a gay wedding in the dlc called secret lair
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>>97866836
>Soulsborne games are mostly extremely woke.
>even though the gay wedding is the antagonist's doing and we killed his gay ass
Anyways, proof next thread?
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>>97866827
I blame GRRM's involvement, degenerate old pervert
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>>97866609
sex with lily
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>>97866153
Unironically met her through work so no secret formula there, I'm afraid. Note that I'm an oldfag so where I meet women and the women I'm interested in aren't likely to be what most anons are going for.

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>>97865718
I assume pic related is what most people wanted to see.
Mods, this isn't off topic because I'm also boobanon and I often use my wife as a reference. How's that for lore?
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>>97866860
I want a counterspell with "Isn't there somebody you forgot to ask?" as its flavor text
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>>97866137
Shivan Dragon is right there.
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Strixhaven has an evil tiger. I should get evil tigers back. I'm a good boy, I deserve it.
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>>97866910
Is that a random cleavage picture or your wife's actual rack? If it's the latter, congrats man
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>>97864698
>>97864698
Ravi/Grandmother Sengir.
It's kind of amusing how technically she's first planeswalker printed as a card, even if it's from when she went insane and got adopted by Baron Sengir to be his personal witch preparing curses and black spells.
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>>97865729
Only good art in the entire set
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>>97866979
Your evil tigers are no longer considered felines, for some reason. Now they're just demons that happen to look like tigers.
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>>97866979
I have a sneaking suspicion you like these tigers sexually and thus you do not deserve them at all.
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>>97866979
sorry, they got cancelled. not kidding
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>>97867012
Disagreed. J22 had plenty of good pieces.
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>>97866979
I am sorry for your loss, bad ass tiger demons were casualties of the culture wars.

Can i offer you a dance battling lionness, or a wheelchairbound ethnic man?
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>>97867029
And yet evil wizard tiger is fine in the current year.
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>>97866940
There was a time when it was definitely one of the most iconic creatures in the game, but unfortunately that time is long gone. For dragons to become iconic in Magic again they would have to be made competitive, but they are one of the designated Timmy/casual player tribes.
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>>97867036
Is that art a Shadow of the Colossus reference?
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>>97867059
No, it's The Simpsons.
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>>97867045
thought you wanted rakshasa specifically since you only posted those
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>>97867073
I want rakshasa, but I specifically want them as tigers. A tiger warlock feels like it hits close enough that approving of it should however slightly undermine opposition against rakshasa as tigers.
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>>97867092
So this did nothing for you
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>>97867113
It made me moderately disappointed.
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>>97866199
>ouroboroid at home
eh could be much worse
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>>97866996
She got a cameo a few years back.
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>>97866248
If anime is the secret sauce then why hasn't Hasbro made one?
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>>97864823
And her husband and other unimportant children.
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>>97867339
soratami > kitsune > nezumi
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Neat
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>>97865729
She's cute but Arcavian merfolk look like this.
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This could be fun.
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>>97867410
Also the art is cracking me up.
>THINK FAST GRASSHOPPER
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The accordionist either needs to start moisturizing daily ASAP or he's just a bit old to be a student.
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Kill the dumb students.
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>>97867410
Art makes him looks like he should cost at least 6 mana, wotc shitting the bed big time again.
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>>97867426
This guy is CLEARLY based off of the game awards musician.
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>>97867440
I thought Hexhaven was the villent school? This academy seems rather shitty even for the gay fags of Strixhaven...
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What are some deckbuilding tips and skills? Every deck that I make is shit
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>>97867426
Zaffai's a pre-existing character and the lore-blurb for his OG card has him being faculty, so we dunno how old he is. He's not a student.
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Anyway here's a Blood Artist-y type thing.
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>>97867545
I mean I get why it's Sorcery, it's also just Repartee fuel, but man that feels bad not being Instant.
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>>97867523
>no "one or more" clause
This thing is actually sneaky good.
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>>97867523
Yeah I'm pretty sure she's for me
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>>97867523
Would.
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why SOS sucks so much?
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The fuck they even gonna do for the hobbit? More hobbit food slop? Dorf treasures? Gandalf bing chillin? Liyerally what fucking else? All the shit people actually remember from Tolkien are in the LOTR trilogy, wotc kinda blew their load making it one set.
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>>97867426
Arcavian djinn look so shit.
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>>97867476
Show one of your decklists and say what you're attempting to do with it
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>>97867551
It's really good in Limited and would be OP in there if it were an instant
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>>97867734
I like Uvilda.
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>>97867744
Why he is so bald
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>>97867476
The hardest deckbuilding pill to swallow is that you should play netdecks for your format of choice until you have a solid grasp of what a deck needs to be capable of doing to be able to compete, and only then should you start brewing. Always ask yourself how your deck is going to beat the top 6 or so decks in the format.
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>>97867752
The alternative was that stupid ponytail style. Full bald looks better and makes it less uncomfortable to wear a wig.
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>>97867752
>he
m8 those hips ain't male, and you can clearly see she has a chest going too
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Play

Dandan

https://pastebin.com/umGk9qQD
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>>97867744
Uvilda is dead or retired considering Veyran's now the Dean of Perfection.
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>>97867957
In fact I think Lorehold is the only college to not have any replaced Deans, though Augusta IS dead.
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>>97867957
I'll allow it because she's pretty.
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Help a brainlet out, does casting a prepared spell counts like casting from exile?
does it means avian interruptor increase its cost?
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>>97868204
no
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>>97868204
I believe so, yes. It's not putting a copy on the stack from exile, it's casting a copy from exile.
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>>97867857
Hmmmmm nyo
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>>97867523
Any decent -X/-X "wraths" in Standard?
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>>97865622
This Basil fella is in for a rude awakening when he drops out of college and learns that all the jobs are tied to the school.
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>>97867523
Bvilt for big Massacre Girl donks
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>>97867523
bros are we slowly getting cute women back?
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>>97868204
When you cast a spell on the prepared creature, it leaves the battlefield and joins the stack. If it gets countered here the creature effectively dies.
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>>97866910
Imagine posting an actual picture of your wife's tits for all the horny degenerates of this board to jerk off to
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>>97867410
I hate this shit because it's a green card that actively incentivizes you to not use green mana to cast it
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play

premodern
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>>97868870
so true sister
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I haven't played magic in 15 years. I am looking forward for pre-release sealed for strixhaven. It looks really fun. I will tell the children about time spiral, lorwyn and zendikar.
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>>97868937
also
fuck standard
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>Posted about a reanimator deck that throws around deadweight artifacts, enchantments and tokens until you can reanimate or hardcast big threats back in 2025
>Only just learning about this card
Why didn't anyone tell me this thing existed? I feel like the deck would've gotten so many more wins if I ran this over Rite of the Moth.
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>>97868892
It gives me enormous joy to see other people posting this image.
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>>97867724
actual smaug card that they still somehow sneak a nigger into
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>>97864698
>Oldest Planeswalker
>Not consumed by Karn
>Not dipped in Phyrexian Oil
>Just does his own thing
>Every card he's in looks like the cover to a crappy metal album or romance book

He's the greatest.
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>>97866202
Why does it cost 5? It should be 4 and rounded up as a another anon said..
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Sup faggots I’ve been off the chans for a few years as x has been remarkably good and I’ve been busy with real life. These captchas are fucking awful.

So, I think I have a problem with hoarding cards. I think I have like tens of thousands in sealed cardboard now and I live in a retardedly high sales tax state and I think I should learn how to start selling I guess.

I preordered a shitton and holy shit I’m realizing I’m completely obsessed. Damn.

So why does Rudy sound so spooked all of a sudden? And how do his patrons rationalize the massive fuck you of “im not even going to offer TMNT collectors because suddenly im bothered by whining on the internet.” And why is every other mtg YouTube channel a complete homosexual degenerate worshipper of mentally ill troons?

So funny that they’re still calling Rowling genocidal and fascist.
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>>97869107
>why does Rudy sound so spooked all of a sudden
He's understands the Iran situation will be considerably worse than covid and that it is in fact over.
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>>97869107
Rudy the grifter is still around?
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>>97869004
nuwalker slop tied to one of the worst planes
Was only ever based in Teeth of Akoum
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>>97868410
>girl is just another Loot victim
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>>97866328
It's clearly balanced with EDH in mind where everyone is playing super greed decks and land destruction is normally a "feels bad" which is why it's balanced like it is. Just another example of commander ruining card design and balance
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SOS is lame, yo
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>>97869004
>>Oldest Planeswalker
Ugin & Bolas are older by far. And if desparked walkers count then Azor has him beat.
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>>97869004
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>>97869544
It's FUCKING SHIT FUCK YOU WOTC GO FUCK YOURSELF I WILL NOT CONSOOM THE SLOP
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>>97867523
>2 life per 1 body
Unironically very good. Probably won't pan out into anything functional, but I will be testing it.
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>>97867523
Guys he is literally a man. there are no boobs. It's a goddamn tranny.
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>The white Emeritus is a 4-mana sorcery speed Crib Swap that also gains your opponent life.
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>>97869706
>there are no boobs
This is Loot's multiverse, buddy.
You're just living in it.
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>>97869711
I don't understand this joke.
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>>97869715
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Vorthoschuds, is there anything juicy in the new novel?
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>>97869719
>Vorthoschuds, is there anything juicy in the new novel?
Gay bolas? Gay bolas.
Gay. Bolas.
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>>97869107
>>97869195
>>97869259
>WA LAO RUBY AIEEE
He's literally just a distributor with a youtube channel. Logistics and warehouse guys are all basically like this.
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>>97869715
Don't overthink his retardation. He's making a joke out of contempt for WoTC's version of baby yoda. Due to their long production times though by the time we got Loot people were already sick of baby Yoda. Shows just how quickly Disney shit out slop that in the time they'd taken to finish the set Disney had already fucked up the only decent star wars show they had. And frankly Mandalorian was just a generic western but because it wasn't woke DEI filled slop it was amazing in comparison. They have of course remedied that and emasculated any trace of masculinity out of the show. Fuck Disney, fuck WoTC, fuck the woke mind virus, FUCK THIS WHOLE FUCKING CLOWN WORLD SHIT!!!!!
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>>97869690
>three little piggies form an adventuring party
Awesome.
>they're alchemy only
I'm offended. I feel personally attacked. This is bullshit.
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>>97869292
best* planes
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Maybe the reason why Innistrad sucks is because its humans need to git gud. Imagine being so lucky that 90% of your problems are vampire-related and can be solved with a sharp stick.
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So Reality Fracture seems to be building up to be some big reset button for the lore, what do you think they'll be doing?
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>>97869862
It will just be a temporary event where color shifted cards are allowed
Jace will be big bad for a while before being offed by the power of friendship and LGBTQ+. In his death somehow the Eldrazi will return
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>>97869852
The humans who get killed on Innistrad are retards who don't try to become the monsters.
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>>97865270
I liked Arena and the Greenesleeves books.
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>>97869852
Survivors piss me off so much. Duskmourn tech pisses me off. I don't know what was in the concept art or the briefs given to the artists, but the creative team needs to sit their asses down and figure out how they arrived at these results and why they thought it was a good idea.
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>>97869719
Strixhaven's student body is full of racists and Liliana, Kasmina and Angrath were desparked.
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>>97869862
Basically it will be Time Spiral, only shit because there is no way that current WotC understands even a fraction of why Time Spiral was good and they are incapable of actually being sincere these days.
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>>97869719
>>97857783
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>>97869995
Angrath deserved better than to be desparked and have a surly lesbian daughter. He was genuinely one of the better characters of the "modern" era.
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>>97870013
what was his problem, anyways
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>>97870074
Deadbeat dad.
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>>97869862
I dont care i just wanna see Hexhaven and the Ancient Dragons of Jace.
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>>97869862
UB will become canonical in universe when Jayce summons Thanos from Marvel tm into the multiverse
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>>97869604
>Arlinn
Why was she even a walker and not just a legendary? She was only doing shit on Innistrad.
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>>97870082
>Hexhaven
This exists only in your head, anon.
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4 Opt
4 Sleight of Hand
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Flow State
4 Consult the Star Charts
4 Dina's Guidance
4 Formidable Speaker
4 Kona, Rescue Beastie
4 Omniscience
1 North Wind Avatar
4 Evendo, Waking Haven
4 Ulthros, Titanic Godcore
4 Breeding Pool
4 Multiversal Passage
4 Willowrush Verge
2 Northampton Farm
1 Forest

Sound like a plan?
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>>97869107
>So why does Rudy sound so spooked all of a sudden?
It's called acting.
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>>97869852
The actual problems are:
20% cults
20% spiritual hauntings
20% vampires
20% werewolf and monster attacks
20% Zombie attacks
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>>97870113
Presumably WotC wanted to put a gruulwalker in rotation since one didn't exist before SOI.
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>>97869862
As they copy everything Marvel does, they will have RF, show 1 to 2 planes under RF, and then close it out next year with Jace giving reality power to some womyn that set things straight.
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>>97869952
It looks like a camera. I remember they revealed the technology would look like a real world thing but they wouldn't use it like we would expect.
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>>97870169
Like >>97870007 said, they don't know how to be sincere anymore - everything has to be tropes, memes and be "resonant". They couldn't be further from the truth. If they actually 100% leaned into a concept instead of these surface level passes they might actually get somewhere.
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>>97870125
If you say so faggot... See you in few months to laugh at your face.
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>>97870162
we should reduce the list to cults, werewolves and vampires
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>Thanos in Magic
Would this truly be the absolute end of this game or how much can pigs deal with?
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>>97865596
I have no idea. What is even the plot of this set other than "hey guys jace is up to something!"? Are the strixhaven students the "new avengers" aka new gatewatch? None of them really seem to matter, other than one that pushed down an old lady (lol)
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>>97870169
Even their cameras look like shit.
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>>97870180
And I will be happy to be proven wrong. Faggot.
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>>97870167
I just want chandra and lili to have tits again
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>>97870203
Chandra is back to having some curvature in her "fight with Ajani" SOS card, so perhaps Loot is dead.
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>>97870194
>What is even the plot of this set other than "hey guys jace is up to something!"?
Discounting some of the emotional beats hit by Chandra and Ajani, yeah, that's basically the sum of what the plot is about. The episodes read a lot like setup for Reality Fracture. The crisis involving the archaics doesn't so much tell the reader where the story is going to go as it informs the reader about the stakes at play and what will be motivating the characters in the next arc. SOS is by no means a self-contained storyline.
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>>97870203
huh
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>>97870169
>all tech runs on battery demons
>definitionally all tech is haunted
>but haunted tech can be additionally haunted by ghosts
It could be renamed Double-Haunted Screen if you think about it.
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>>97870169
>turn on TV
>it starts raining wheat or mud
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>>97870203
Ask Loot for mercy.
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>>97870294
No
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>>97870233
Yeah, it's the GRN/RNA to War of the Spark, a lot of "oh shit things are about to get bad here".
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daily news

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/secrets-of-strixhaven-60-card-theme-deck-contents-and-guide
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/card-preview/secrets-of-strixhaven-art-cards
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/card-preview/the-tokens-of-secrets-of-strixhaven
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>>97870341
Ah fuck more shit

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/secrets-of-strixhaven-release-notes
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/secrets-of-strixhaven-release-notes
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I keep registering Strixhaven orcs as DnD tieflings
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>>97869862
I don't trust them on that. I remember back when War of the Spark was announced and they also said it was gonna be a major shake up in the lore with many character deaths and in the end we had maybe some 3 secondary characters dead and that was it.
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>>97870367
They're not hyping up a Big Change with Reality Fracture at least. Just that it is a finale, and there's something cool with the set they didn't think they could physically do (whole set is double-sided, or every pack is 'mirrored' or something).
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I like this design actually.
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>>97870356
power creep
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>>97870379
The strongest card in the set.
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>>97870390
>new idea from wotc in 2026
Unthinkable
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>>97870353
nice
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>>97870383
jesus christ
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Cauldron target?
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>>97870440
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>pure white creature mechanically
>black mana
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>>97870383
thank god that is not an instant or it would see the light of day
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>>97870444
Black and white have a lot of overlap. Black CAN do pure lifegain without draining, though it is typically minor amounts, and any colour can do +1/+1.
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This sounds like it generates infinite mana with any flicker
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Pauper viable?
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>>97870442
I LOVE MEME FLAVOR TEXT
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>>97867744
>>97867957
>the shit efreet dean lives but the djinn dean with the tight ass and big boobs dies
I hate this gay multiverse.
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>>97870390
top art, too
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>>97870462
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Rate my CaC
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>>97870477
0/1
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>>97870489
Which way.
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>>97870483
Perfect
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Lightning Strike + a tap is not nothing.
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This isn't reddit, you don't need to post every new fucking common.

>>97870353
>>97870379
These two are going to do some work.
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>>97870477
>>97870498
Finally, a good set
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This ser is horrible Jesus
And obviously Izzet pushed.
This year can't end soon enough.
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>>97870542
LA CREATURA
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>>97870546
It can end today. You know what to do.
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>>97870507
lightning strike
lightning helix
vibrant outbust
Three lightning strikes is a deck i would build, if it didn't get blown out by every other deck
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>>97870477
Where are the hideous brown people? This is extremely problematic.
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>>97870542
ECH
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First blush of the full spoiler looks like there are a few more playables than I expected, but overall the set is pretty meh, or "ech" as it were.
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>>97869004
I see you managed to piss off all of the fags by pointing out the obvious. It's amazing how Sorin always manages to get the right people seething.
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>>97869727
Yeah, that pretty well covers it
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>>97869004
> Romance book
Sorin is female cheese-cake
At least the castle doesn't defy gravity
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begone furfag
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>>97870542
The face of someone who wants to suck you dry
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>>97866392
It's a Zendikar thing, innit.
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looks good?
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Unsummon Spiral
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>>97870622
Each player draws 2 cards.
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Christ these captchas are fucking insane. Are they trying to make this board unusable? What the fuck is hiroshimoot doing? What have I missed?

>>97869195
Fuck. Oil pushed shipping costs could make the whole market illiquid and fuck it up. Guess I’m a retard then.
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/secrets-of-strixhaven-release-notes
Prepare is quite interesting.
From what I gather when a creature becomes prepares a copy of the spell becomes exiled until it is cast. Any permanent can cast a prepared spell as long as it was prepared. If a copy prepared a spell but stops being that creature it will still be able to cast the prepared spell.
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>>97870905
This means if you, for example, play Cursed Mirror copying Emeritus of Ideation, Cursed Mirror would still be able to cast Ancestral Recall after turning back into Cursed Mirror.
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>>97870910
If the Cursed Mirror then becomes a copy of Emeritus of Conflict but is still prepared does that mean it can't be prepared until it casts Ancestral Recall as Emeritus of Conflict?
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>>97870910
Speaking of turning back - feel free to go back.
I suspect you are the one posting the single cards (also taken directly from the site in question). Fuck off.
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>>97870925
I... Probably? A prepared creature cannot be prepared again, and the existing spell is still Recall.
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Sets red mana dork.
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There's been a lot of red mana dorks lately.
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>>97870974
Yeah they're deliberately trying to make it more of a thing in Red.
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I forgot he was here.
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>>97870985
I would prefer to have actual land destruction back, but secondary in mana production is fine, I guess.
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>I pass to you
>Before my turn I cast brainstorm and crack my fetch, then I plow your big guy and bolt your face and then play ancestral recall.
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Why do all the characters look weird dysgenic and possibly gay? What the fuck is happening?
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>>97871061
tumblerina calarts people applied for WOTC jobs and got told make everything lame and gay by cynthia williams
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>>97871061
Can you define dysgenic for me.
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I have to say I hate the flavor names for mechanics, either man up and make it a keyword, or make it evocative enough the name becomes redundant
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>>97871061
>possibly
Well, Lorwyn has no humans and Turtles was focused on ACTUAL mutants/aliens/freaks, so there's a lot of catching up to do for 2026.
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>>97871098
Honestly the entire "colour combinations need a name, identity and mechanic" era of design has to die in a fucking fire. Look at all of the nonsense they tried to shove into DFT because of this type of mentality and absolutely none of it matters. None of it matters here in SOS either.
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>>97870010
Adding trivial bits to that
>Alandra's "wardrobe" consists of bags of pearls that will literally grow into garments per the desires of their owner
>thanks to Shandalar's oceans being full of predators its merfolk have seemingly evolved to always be watchful of their surroundings; Alandra's generation is the first to have been born in relative safety after her father conquered the seas, meaning she's prone to extreme anxiety when she finds herself in unfamiliar situations and her natural instincts kick in
>Segante's mother was killed defending their home from assassins sent by Queen Marchesa, who is his aunt
>flower arrangement is a big thing in Fioran culture and the choice of shrubbery may signal various things to guests and rivals
>Segante has a silver nipple piercing
>the Biblioplex has a book titled Mana-Fest: A Tasting Tour of the Multiverse supposedly authored by a planeswalker
>when Angrath sparked his family assumed he'd died since it looked like he spontaneously combusted and disappeared in a pillar of fire, they held a funeral and everything, and were none the wiser until he reappeared two years later
>prolonged stays within an Omenpath may result in getting incinerated much like entering the Blind Eternities without a spark is
>Strixhaven stations guards at Omenpaths called Pathwardens, who have a troubling overlap with the Arcavios Preservation Society, a group who want to evict all extraplanar visitors and close all Omenpaths
>the Arcavios Preservation Society think Omenpaths can be closed by placing explosives inside them
>Capennan Halo tastes like "bright, sunny skies and stolen kisses and, oddly enough, raspberries"
>groups of owls are called parliaments on Antausia and wisdoms on Dominaria
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>>97870542
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>>97870967
just a little unconditional colorpie bend nothing to worry about this won't get out of control ;)
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>>97870383
Swear this card was only made to ragebait...
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>>97871149
This is just 4 or 5 regular red cards rolled into one (and it still isn't playable).
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>>97871159
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>>97871144
>>Segante has a silver nipple piercing
...How is that relevant to anything?
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>>97870872
I'm beginning to suspect that Prismari students are literally not allowed to use any paints besides red and blue ones.
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>>97871242
Art director strikes again - you wouldn't visually want colours other than red and blue on a UR card, right? Its not like the mana cost of a card has anything to do with visual identity of a card's art, right?
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pre

modern
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>>97871175
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>>97870383
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>>97870383
Ah, finally.
The new worst Magic art of all time.
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>>97870390
>Cool art.
>Alright effect.
I dig it. The sets 2/368 for designs. Better than the usual zero, I guess.
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>>97871322
Gib moar LWA
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>>97870383
One must wonder what the absolute fuck the art direction for this shit was.
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>>97870379
Foxy grandma.
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>>97871344
Bayonetta vibes (this is a good thing).
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>>97871322
Explain why is it the worst Magic art of all, without mentioning character's ethnicity.
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>>97870997
>>97871084
This weird androgynous lesbian elf thing for one. Just look at the art broski. Its fucking retarded.
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>>97871366
Some fat retard holding up a leech in a jar is a new level of bad art
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>>97870379
>Scornmage
Is it actually possible to have a degree in being a cunt to people? It's possible to get a job of teaching other people to be cunts? Sick.
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>>97871366
>Explain why is it the worst Magic art of all, without mentioning character's ethnicity.
I like how you know why and opted to preemptively exclude it because you know it explains why.
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>>97870383
Holy fucking shit lmao.
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>>97871380
That's Kirol. He's not androgynous, he just has a very ugly haircut.
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Oh boy I can't wait to escape to this fantasy world of...
high school sports and...
boring teachers...
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>>97870905
>From what I gather when a creature becomes prepares a copy of the spell becomes exiled until it is cast.
Non-card objects can't be in exile. Do they just not know how the game's rules work?
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>>97871406
And before anyone says "Magic was always like this!" and posts a card like Jump as an example of a card being a mundane thing, there is an insurmountable difference between Jump and Failing a Math Test in terms of theming and treating your audience like actual children.
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Is SOS a flop?
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>As an effect causes a creature with a prepare spell to become prepared (including effects that state that a creature "enters prepared"), that creature's controller creates a copy of that creature's prepare spell in exile.
>No mention of changing the rules on non-card objects being in zones other than the Stack or Battlefield.
So yes. They just don't know how their game works.
Prepare literally does not function according to the Magic rules. The effect attempts to put a non-card object into Exile, does fuck all nothing, then the Prepared creature can't do anything.
Bravo, Wizards. You're retards.
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>>97871419
Archives will keep it treading water, sadly.
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>>97871419
WotC stapled a bonus sheet to it. Scalpers carry that bag.
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Why do Arcavios demons look like big slugs with three pairs of arms?
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>>97870077
I mean he was trapped on Ixalan for 14 years and the novel says that his wife died during that time. And now his homeplane's destroyed.
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>>97871421
lol yeah
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>>97871144
Also, Segante is trans. It's mostly glossed over and not directly stated, but Eula basically notices he has some REALLY tight vests, remembers an old schoolmate she had who wanted to be a newsboy but was born female and had similarly tight vests and sort of brings up that story to him in an "Oh I get it" way.
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>>97870383
aunt jemina card
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>Go check out the rules for Prepared.
>Prepared attempts to create a copy into Exile.
>The copy doesn't appear because copies can only be on the battlefield or the stack.
>There's nothing to cast now, so the Prepared creature doesn't have anything to reference.
>The mechanic that just a rube goldberg machine that does fucking nothing.

What did they mean by this?
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>>97871471
Now THIS Is art.
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Can I Pull From Eternity my opponent's Prepared spell and place it into their graveyard?
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No, better yet.
If I Pull From Eternity my own Prepared spell, placing it into my Graveyard, then I use said Prepared spell in my graveyard from Devle,
Now that it's back into Exile, can I cast it from the Prepared creature again?
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>>97871467
The mechanic changes the comp rules, it's that simple. The ability says it keeps it in exile. SBA delete non-cards in exile, but they can very easily add a caveat of "unless another ability is keeping it exiled".
Also, copies absolutely can be in exile. They are usually created and then immediately cast from there, but there's no rule saying they cannot be there at all.
Actually, I'm looking at the comp rules and I see literally nothing saying non-cards can't be in exile.
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>>97871471
Change the name to "Welfare Collector"
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>>97871481
>>97871489
No, because they're not cards.
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>>97871492
>The mechanic changes the comp rules, it's that simple.
It shouldn't. Keelhauling the comp rules to force "Activated Abilities 2" is EXTREMELY bad design.
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>>97871500
Then what are they? Spells can only exist on the stack. Is this an entirely new object type or some dumbass retard shit like that?
What the fuck is wrong with these people. This is completely fucking pointless. Just make it a function of the Creature game object holy fuck. "If prepared, it can copy this spell" like it's not that fucking hard why are we obliterating the comprehensive rules when we literally just don't have to.
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>>97871501
There's literally nothing wrong with prepare in the comp rules unless you're just misinterpreting them wildly. Prepared spells are objects.
>109.1. An object is an ability on the stack, a card, a copy of a card, a token, a spell, a permanent, or an emblem.
Objects can exist in exile.
>406.1. The exile zone is essentially a holding area for objects. Some spells and abilities exile an object without any way to return that object to another zone. Other spells and abilities exile an object only temporarily.
They're not tokens, because tokens are only permanents. They're spells that exist on their own.
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>>97871509
>Objects can exist in exile.
No.
SOME objects can exist in exile.
S O M E. Being, CARDS. Literally only Cards (Not copies of cards, Cards alone) and no other object type can exist in Exile.
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This is fucking retarded.
You literally just don't have to put a fake game object into exile. It is completely unnecessary. You already have named tokens (Tarmogoyf, Mutavault etc.) you already fucking wrenched the comprehensive rules in half to do that. Why are we doing it again? Just use the fucking shit you already fucked up you absolute fucking idiots.
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>>97871457
Ah yeah that was a thing. Like you said it didn't really come up as obvious outside that one scene, and then later when he makes a brief mention of taking his grandfather's name. But come to think of it Dina said she'd been informed there were only girls in the group, so there was a little foreshadowing.
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I can't wait for the Prepare frame in MSE so I can make an absolute fucking
>"At the beginning of your upkeep, if this spell is in exile..."
Prepared shit.
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>>97871507
it's a copy. also even if it was an actual card it wouldn't be in exile in any point. stack is it's own zone
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>>97871514
That's literally wrong. Now, the rule you MIGHT be referring to is this:
>704.5e If a copy of a spell is in a zone other than the stack, it ceases to exist. If a copy of a card is in any zone other than the stack or the battlefield, it ceases to exist.
Which, as written, does make prepare not work. But guess what. They can do a thing called "adding rules". A lot of mechanics breaks the baseline rules in some way, and thus they'll have their own section in the comp rules for that.
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>>97871530
>Which, as written, does make prepare not work.
Yes. Correct. Prepared does not work. The copy ceases to exist. End of discussion.

>They can do a thing called "adding rules".
This is universally the wrong decision.
Can does not equal should. Is does not equal ought. The state of it being technically possible to do something retarded does not negate you being a retard if you actually go out and do it.
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>>97871467
wait nvm if it's really like this then it's retarded
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>>97871544
Shut the fuck up. You're gonna be the asshole who is about to lose to a prepare card and screech for a judge and say "JUDGE THIS MECHANIC DOESN'T WORK IN THE RULES".
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Weird amount of cutesy shit in DSK
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>>97871552
>Shut the fuck up.
Just like that, the shill crumbles. Get ye gone.
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>>97871557
Your argument is "they shouldn't make new mechanics that need new rules". That means basically no new mechanics.
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>As an effect causes a creature with a prepare spell to become prepared (including effects that state that a creature "enters prepared"), that creature's controller creates a copy of that creature's prepare spell in exile.
>704.5e If a copy of a spell is in a zone other than the stack, it ceases to exist.

What did they mean by this?
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>>97871562
>Your argument is "they shouldn't make new mechanics that need new rules".
It is not. You are too stupid to accurately parse arguments. I don't engage with idiots like you. You are the swine before which I shall not cast my pearls. Good day.
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>>97871562
nta but they should only make new mechanics with new rules that don't contradict with old ones or overwrite them
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>>97871564
The comp rules will be updated to allow that to happen. It's not hard to figure out. Either 704.5e will change to include "so long as nothing is maintaining it" or something, or prepare will say "this ignores state-based actions removing the spell for as long as the creature exists and is prepared".
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>>97871569
>The comp rules will be updated to allow that to happen.
Can does not equal should.
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>>97871564
why don't they just track the preparedness of a creature and then let it copy the written text as a spell on the stack? instead of immediately making one in exile once it become prepared
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>>97871572
That's not an argument.
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So, are people unironically trying to argue that cleaving the comprehensive rules in half just to facilitate Activated Abilities, But Stupider is even remotely reasonable?

The absolute fucking state of Magic shills lmao.
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>they will change the rules
>again
>and again
I TOLD YOU PRE-MODERN IS NOT SAFE
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>>97871575
Well, for one, it allows it to work with cast triggers. They could've probably made it so the copy is only created when you decide to cast the prepared spell but I assume they figured it was easier to roll it together with the prepared status or some such, I dunno the reason.
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Anyway they teased some Secret Lairs and it looks like they're doing a Dwarf Fortress one of all things (the dorf faces and the Bay12 copyright in the bottom left), which is neat I guess.
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>>97871575
>why don't they just track the preparedness of a creature and then let it copy the written text as a spell on the stack?
I have not even the slightest fucking clue. This shit is trivial to figure out. It is, in fact, how the game universally functions and there isn't ANY mechanical reason to deviate from it. The game already has named tokens so you wouldn't even need to write out what the spell does for it to function in the current rules. Garth One-Eye is already a fucking card. There is NO REASON to fucking ass blast the comprehensive rules like this.

These people are absolute idiots holy fuck.
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>>97871588
Well there is the awkwardness of some prepare spells not being existing spells, but them being printed as spells (even if only on a creature) probably would make them viable to be copied the same way.
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>>97871584
might have been easier to code idk but I feel the copy thing could still have been cast straight from the card
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>Wotc introduces a new mechanic: Peepeepoopoo mana.
>For every combined ounce of pee and poo you bring in a jar to your game, you can flush it down a toilet to acquire one mana of any color.

>When players point out that changing the Comprehensive Rules to allow for peepeepoopoo mana is absolutely idiotic, the shills reply...
>"But they're changing the comprehensive rules, so it's fine."
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>>97871593
I'm sure there's some reason. Like, okay, you want prepare spells to be cast for cast triggers to matter, sure, synergises with Opus/Repartee and whatnot. It is a little odd that prepared isn't just "giving you permission to cast the associated spell", it's "creating the spell which you may then cast".
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guys you'll never believe what they did, they added a mechanic that completely breaks the fundamental rules of how creatures have always worked. the game will be fucking ruined when this new set comes out
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>>97871592
>Well there is the awkwardness of some prepare spells not being existing spells, but them being printed as spells
THE CREATURE IS PREPARED.
Fuck just make it a fucking Suspect-like boolean state.
>"If thing is prepared, you can un-prepare it to cast X."

IT'S A GLORIFIED FUCKING CHARGE COUNTER SPENT ON ACTIVATED ABILITIES FOR FUCK SAKE LMAO THIS SHIT IS SO FUCKING RETARDED JUST PUT A FUCKING CHARGE COUNTER ON THE FUCKING CREATURE AND GIVE IT AN ACTIVATED ABILITY HOLY FUCK HAHAHA
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>>97871578
When was the last time they made a new sliver? I mean they reprint old ones every so often, sometimes they get new art, but I don't know how many years it's been since they made a new one.
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>>97871596
Oh, one possible explanation might be that if a prepared creature becomes a copy of something else with prepare, it maintains its original prepare spell instead of being able to cast the new one. That's probably the reason why it's like that.
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WotC should change the comprehensive rules to allow for whipping out my dick and slapping permanents off the table with it to be the equivalent of exiling them.

If they change the rules to allow it, then it's a good thing, right?
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anon was not prepared
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>>97871605
Does this count from EOE?
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>>97871607
>Oh, one possible explanation might be that if a prepared creature becomes a copy of something else with prepare, it maintains its original prepare spell instead of being able to cast the new one. That's probably the reason why it's like that.
Yes but altering the state of a creature on the battlefield should strip that creature of things it previously had access to.
This is not a problem. There is no reason to even ATTEMPT to solve this issue.
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>>97871600
I like how you can't track it in paper either
>give it a charge counter
>prolifirate lmao
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>>97871605
not counting digital only cards (Sliver Weftwinder from EoE), MH1 in 2019 appears to be the most recent set with new slivers in it
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>>97871617
>This creature enters embiggenated.
>Unembiggenate this: Cast a copy of this creature's embiggenate spell.

Wa la.
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>>97871616
Well prepared is similar to monstrous, in that it's a non-copiable value that just sort of 'exists' on a creature. A monstrous creature becoming a copy of something else with monstrosity can't activate the new monstrosity. My assumption as to why prepared is similar is because they didn't want, say, a cheap and easily-prepared creature becoming a copy of something with more hoops and casting the more hard-to-get spell.
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>>97871626
>Well prepared is similar to monstrous, in that it's a non-copiable value that just sort of 'exists' on a creature. A monstrous creature becoming a copy of something else with monstrosity can't activate the new monstrosity. My assumption as to why prepared is similar is because they didn't want, say, a cheap and easily-prepared creature becoming a copy of something with more hoops and casting the more hard-to-get spell.
What these kinds of technical hangups tell you is not that you should hack the comprehensive rules apart in order to shoehorn it into your game.
What this tells you is that Prepared is a bad idea and you should not be pursuing its design space.
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>Non-Card objects can exist in exile now.
I genuinely could not have even imagined this being something that WotC could fuck up.
Things previously not even in consideration for fuckup territory are on the table now.
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>>97871600
>IT'S A GLORIFIED FUCKING CHARGE COUNTER SPENT ON ACTIVATED ABILITIES FOR FUCK SAKE LMAO THIS SHIT IS SO FUCKING RETARDED JUST PUT A FUCKING CHARGE COUNTER ON THE FUCKING CREATURE AND GIVE IT AN ACTIVATED ABILITY HOLY FUCK HAHAHA

>3UU
>Haste
>Flying
>Ward 2
>Put a charge counter on this creature when it enters.
>"Remove charge counter, U: Target player draws three cards"
>5/5
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>>97871641
>>3UU
>>Haste
>>Flying
>>Ward 2
>>Put a charge counter on this creature when it enters.
>>"Remove charge counter, U: Target player draws three cards"
>>5/5
... it's over...
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Why doesn't WotC milk D&D for more crossovers instead of turning to UB? There's more than just Forgotten Realms to work with. It could also be helpful for developing those IPs.
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I think it's so spell reducers can apply to the copied spell
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>>97871652
it's better to milk a new audience every month because even dnd wallets will empty eventually but non-repeat customer's hasn't
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>>97871641
correction, it doesn't need haste because it doens't need to tap
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>>97871653
>I think it's so spell reducers can apply to the copied spell
A) Bad idea to have that work.
B) Why would this ever be needed?
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>>97871636
They've been able to exist in exile for a long time. Prepare's just the first time they've been able to stick around for more than the resolution of an effect.
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>>97871653
its a copied spell so you can counter it with a normal counterspell rather than a stifle, the weird rules stuff I don't care about, the copy of the spell is on the card so you copy that. its in the "on the creature" zone
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>>97871664
>They've been able to exist in exile for a long time.
No they have not.
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>>97871144
the Angrath trivia is something that I wish was more prevalent in the stories
most of the 'walkers on walk near other 'walkers, but because they're so rare a common person seeing someone disappear with a crsckle of lightning will definitely vause some ruckus. None of them are even subtle about it, they just disappear and reappear wherever and whenever.
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>>97871668
Yes they have. A copy is created in the same zone as the thing it's copying unless otherwise specified. Anything that exiles something and creates a copy to then cast is creating a copy in exile.
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>>97871677
>A copy is created in the same zone as the thing it's copying unless otherwise specified. Anything that exiles something and creates a copy to then cast is creating a copy in exile.
That is literally just not correct at all.
A copied permanent is created on the battlefield. A copied spell is created on the stack.
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>>97871658
we slapped it on so you can attack with it the turn it came down
for the FIRE
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>>97871659
cos then it would not work with prowe- I mean heroi- I mean retarde- I mean repartee
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>>97871685
No. Image limit has been reached, but the card Chandra, Pyromaster, whose third ability is "exile the top ten cards of your library, choose an instant or sorcery exiled this way and copy it three times, you may cast the copies" has this relevant ruling. This card is from 2014 by the way.
>While resolving the third ability, you create the copies of the card in exile and cast them from exile. You can cast zero, one, two, or all three copies. The card itself isn't cast. It remains exiled.
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>>97871692
>cos then it would not work with prowe- I mean heroi- I mean retarde- I mean repartee
It should not work with these things. It is an activated ability, not a spell.
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>>97871685
nta but in the example of Arcane Bombardment there's clearly a moment where the copy has been created by the enchantment and the enchantment's controller has a choice of whether or not to cast it.
A spell that hasn't been cast yet can't possibly be on the stack, so where is the copy located while the player is making the decision of whether to use Arcane Bombardment's "may" trigger?
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>>97871700
>>While resolving the third ability, you create the copies of the card in exile and cast them from exile.

>704.5e If a copy of a spell is in a zone other than the stack, it ceases to exist.
No you don't.
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>>97871700
Elite Arcanist is similar.
>The copy is created in and cast from exile. You must still follow any timing restrictions, such as "Cast [this spell] only during combat."
Non-cards have been able to exist in exile. SBAs usually delete them afterwards, yes. But prepare specifically puts a holder on that. It's not that significant of a change.
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>>97871672
I recall Kiora used it for aurafarming when she escaped from Thassa.
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>>97871709
That's state-based actions, which only take effect when a player gains priority. SBAs are ignored during the resolution of an ability, like Chandra's ability. Prepare is different, yes, by letting it prolong its stay, but its staying is still contingent on the creature being prepared and being on the field.
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>>97871709
damn anon you're a genius, I guess every single one of these cards just doesn't fucking work
https://scryfall.com/search?q=game%3Apaper+otag%3Agives-castable-from-exile+o%3Acopy&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
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>>97871701
they might have wanted em to be counterable by regular ass counterspells
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>>97871712
Or, hell, Isochron Scepter. The exiled card is copied, and THEN cast. Where is it before being cast? That's right, in exile.
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>there's no reason for these to be spells they should be abilities
>set is about a school for spellcasters
>set is filled with payoffs for casting instants and sorceries
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>>97871700
>>97871712
if any of those said "until end of turn you may cast" then yeah but you have to cast them immediately so no sba get to kill them since the ability is still resolving
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>>97871727
>damn anon you're a genius,
Facts.
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>>97871737
all the while the ability is resolving. a time when sbas are not interested in deleting it
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>>97871742
Correct. Prepare IS unique, as I said, by allowing the copied spells to exist for longer. This appears to be a unique function of prepare, making the copied spell's existence in exile tied to the associated creature. As to why prepare isn't just "create and cast a copy" in the same action? Probably for, as I said, avoiding an easy-to-prepare creature becoming a copy of another thing with more difficulty and cheesing out a more valuable spell.
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>>97871739
First Strixhaven set did a lot better job doing that
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>>97871727
none of the ones that copy say "until end of turn" which is the only time it would cease to exist. when a thing is not resolving
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>>97871759
I know that. The anon I was replying to was alleging that the copies weren't made in exile but rather on the stack and that if a copy was ever made in exile it wouldn't be castable due to SBA.
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prepared is just a gateway to yugioh 7 counterspells with legs design
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>>97871825
>prepared is just a gateway to yugioh 7 counterspells with legs design
7? What's this about 8 counterspells. We don't need 9 counterspells on creatures. 10 counterspells is crazy!
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are any blocks easier to get into or deck-build?
>t. mtg-forge player
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what does this have to do with mtg
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=13175757&tags=magic%3A_the_gathering+
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>>97871825
No because YGO actually prints good interaction. Magic doesn't.
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>>97871587
Legitimately, who fucking cares.
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Wew, we have gone from boobanon's wife's tits to the full SOS spoiler to anon having a melty over nothing.
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>>97871856
Looking at the source it's apparently meant to be Magda. Which... There's artist variance but that's just somebody else.
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The images... they're all gone... *dies*
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>>97864823
Neck
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>>97871861
Uhhhh not me
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>>97871870
Its Koth lmao trans Koth. Faggots.
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>>97870341
>https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/secrets-of-strixhaven-60-card-theme-deck-contents-and-guide
Interesting, they're doing more of these. I might pick them up desu, relatively cheap way of having a couple more decks to play with my mum.
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>>97871400
*They
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>>97871507
They are like tokens.
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>>97872320
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>>97871641
>>3UU
>>Flying
>>Ward 2
>>Put a charge counter on this creature when it enters.
>>"All charge counters, U: Target player draws three cards"
>>5/5

There, a normal magic card.

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