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"Sorry The Library's Closed On Sunday" edition
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>Most recent banlist update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-r estricted-february-9-2026
>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-bet a-update-february-9-2026
>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander- brackets-beta
>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned
>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas
>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com
>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com
>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com
>Card search
https://scryfall.com
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Precons
https://magicprecons.com
>tq
Hypothetical: All cards that let one search their libraries are banned - how much worse are your decks now?
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>Hypothetical: All cards that let one search their libraries are banned - how much worse are your decks now?
I would just build goodstuff decks instead of focused strategies. People seem to think tutors magically decide the power level of the deck. No. They actually encourage you to do things beyond make boring value piles.
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>Hypothetical: All cards that let one search their libraries are banned - how much worse are your decks now?
Gix, Grist, Teval, and Amalia don't change.
Scarab God loses Entomb/Buried Alive, which streamlines the main reanimate payoffs, but that just means I need to lean more into the midrange theme.
Orvar is hurt quite a bit.
Teshar is basically dead.
Momir is banned.
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>random discussion about TV shows starts at my lgs
>two guys talk about Friends for some reason
>1:there was this one guy with the giant mustache,
>2:Yeah, I remember, he was Monica's father
>A third guy: no he wasn't. He was her bf
>Two guys at once: no, he wasn't
>Google it
>those two yelling: you google it!
This keeps happening with other stuff too. mtg nerds know nothing. Often not even about MTG, rules or lore. Some of the dumbest nerds that I've ever met. Offline or online.
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Hello Magic the Gathering fans! Mark Rosewater here, and I need (YOU) to design Commander Anthology 3. Select 4 commander precons to be included.
Requirements:
>Precons must be from 2019 onward
>Precons must be at least slightly balanced when played together
>Precons must have a variaty of playstyles
>No Universes Beyond (sorry!)
>The 4 precons must be able to justify a $200 MSRP
>You can choose some sort of random goodie to throw in, but you can't be too generous
If your product sells well enough, I'll even adapt your favorite IP into a Universes Beyond product, so feel free to mention that too!
>t. Mark Rosewater
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>>97881610
no one cared last thread neither
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Please keep meltdowns to yourselves until we reach at least 30 posts. Thank you.
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>>97881576
Posted this proxy last night but I completely butchered some of the details on the card. Trying to put together a Shantotto deck
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If I want to be an insufferable shit with Eminence, should I go with Edgar, Ur Dragon, or someone else?
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>>97881676
Well considering all those commanders are weak as shit, Oloro.
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My wife, if you even care.
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>>97881677
You're welcome
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>>97881676
>follow brackets to the letter while still pubstomping
>laugh at proxytards crying that you're touching their triple sleeved fakes while you riffle shuffle your single sleeved genuine cardboard
>kill a single player using green queen tifa even at the cost of losing the game because nothing says casual game more than kingmaking with voltron
>grief the pod with discard because even gavin thinks crying over that is more gay than he is
>reply to 'we dont do brackets here' with a cedh deck because it's only natural to push a naive pod's ideas to their logical conclusion
The commander is irrelevant
It's all about the mindset
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>social media losing their minds over Prepared
>they all seem pretty shitty
am I bad at card evaluation or is everyone else
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>>97881772
Some are shit, but good lord are some buttfuck broken. Mr Doge here is going to be Yshtola's best friend, for example.
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a 3 mana 3/3 body that makes a body with cheap exile removal is very powerful, in standard, which is why all talking ends I see are saying this is the best of the Emeritus cycle. Because of other formats. This is okay in commander. Decent, not broken or bonkers.
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>>97881772
This nigga pretty strong actually
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>>97881792
I mean, the reason they got taken off is because if someone sees them in the command zone outside of their normal lanes you can just know the person is likely trying to stomp you and just ask them to play something else or leave.
The very few decks that want them outside of the command zone they're fine in.
Is if a Yuriko or Kinnan is being played into a 2 or 3, you only have yourself to blame.
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>>97881776
this+clones and a bunch of entomb-like effects
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>>97881820
Incorrect
The only reason kinnan and co. were taken off is because gavin didnt want prevent a deluge of emails from retards demanding that he ban X or Y or Z commander for being too op, nothing more or less
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>>97881852
It's funny how casuals always assume the pod will always agree with them and that it's not actually them who will be asked to leave for being too weak lmao the opposite scenario never crosses their minds
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>>97881820
>if someone sees them in the command zone outside of their normal lanes you can just know the person is likely trying to stomp you and just ask them to play something else or leave
I love these imaginary scenarios that all the podcasters and defenders of wotc keep repeating. Do you all exclusively go to giant conventions? How do you all have all the players in the world to choose from? Sometimes there's only 7 other people at my lgs and no, the kinnan fag didn't bring another deck. And the other table is already full. So you either play with a retard or not at all. His deck is also not a bracket 2 deck and nobody seems to care
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>>97881855
Billions must quit!
>Friends floated the idea of "even lands should be singletons" until the realized that left then with only 1 or 2 decks.
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>opponent is playing a theftdeck
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>>97881889
>opponent is playing a deck that is one endless "...then shuffle your deck" snoozefest
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>>97881622
>Teval, the Balanced Scale
>Nelly Borca, Impulsive Accuser
>Stella Lee, Wild Card
>Ixhel, Scion of Atraxa
This feels like a decent pod with enough value to move product. Each color is also represented twice to please my personal tism.
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I love Trading Post so much bros
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>TQ
Kruphix and Kykar become a little less focused and more goodstuff/value-y, tutors probably just get replaced with more cantrips/mass draw spells.
Vilis needs a couple cards removed but it draws so many cards it's a marginal downgrade
Ghalta and Kami are unaffected.
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>I play my 4th land for turn.
>Then you cast harrow.
>Then I cast scapeshit sacrificing all of my lands to find 10 more lands
>My Tifa now has over 2400 attack and trample and I swing at you!
>I cast deflecting palm
>YOU CHEATED!
Based on a true story.
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>>97882020
Most of my ramp is creatures already because they also discount Ghalta. I think the only land ramp in there is cultivate/kodamas reach and the deck really isn't going to feel their loss when I just slot in a couple new mana dorks for them.
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>>97881855
You know basic lands are always the exception to such a statement. Quit pretending to be retarded.
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>>97881576
>Hypothetical: All cards that let one search their libraries are banned - how much worse are your decks now?
Literally zero effect on anything outside green, and even then minimal effect. Tutors/fetchlands are cringe as fuck, my friends and I run budget funstuff decks that don't use any at all
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>>97881724
A fine choice, anon. Here's mine
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>>97882105
Are you saying this list should be banned?
https://edhrec.com/top
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>>97881889
There's only ever been one time a theft deck has bothered me.
>for reasons that elude me, buddy invites this 300+ pound unkempt ginger from the LGS to his Sunday home game night
>ginger asks if its okay to uber some food to the house, bud says sure
>guy orders the sloppiest thai food I've ever seen
>doesn't chew with his mouth closed, constantly spitting and slurping, bits of food going all over his own mat and cards
>doesn't wash his greasy hands after finishing
>next round he pulls out his theft deck
>buddy finally asks him to leave
To this day I still have no idea why my bud invited him to play in the first place, dude was clearly a turbo-sperg.
Brandon I know you sometimes check out this place, if you see this know that we still remember and you will never pass.
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>>97881889
>You have the same sleeves
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gf mad...
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>>97882252
>weird bait
okay what's the story
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>>97882302
Yeah cos jannies are really gonna figure out where the furry porn is in the post after they don't see it in the image, and then wipe out the whole thread to remove it
It's why you do it the way you do, and you should kill yourself a thousand times over
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>you should kill yourself a thousand times over
ur getting 4 cats sent to your house in the near future.
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I love janky shit that occasionally gets super value
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>>97882232
The last thread hit image limit well before this one got baked. If you're going to be a little reddit tier bitch crying about barely pg13 shit on the general >>97882232
then fucking bake before someone else does instead of crying all the time you useless little shit.
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>>97881576
Unironically: Is this MLD?
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>>97882389
People are sick of you forcing your shitty meme into the OP while everyone wants it removed. We have to go through it and remove it each time which is just a pain. No one is laughing at your shitty joke.
Shall I start putting whatever I want in the OP since I bake like 30% of these fucking threads?
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>>97881724
His wife, I think you mean. Unless you are Dong Zhou himself?
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>>97881772
Most of them seem alright at first glance. But Yavimaya Bloomsage still makes me leery.
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>>97882421
>>Something no one noticed.
>errmmmm no one noticed my haha silly totally not a fetish joke!!!!
We all fucking notice, you've been called out for it before, other people keep removing it from the fucking OP, you keep putting it back in.
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>>97881945
You get so much out of it in Feldon
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>>97881953
>Slivers
Eventually
>Eldrazi
Not soon
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>>97881772
They vary. The ones that enter prepared are the best ones. What you have to remember is that a lot of cards trigger off a spell being cast, so there is an inherent advantage to prepared over activated abilities. It's good to prevent engines from stalling.
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>pds is having a full on melty already
OP is beyond based. Hey genius you ever stop to think maybe funstuff gets included in the general because everyone knows it guarantees a blow up from you and they want you gone?
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>>97882252
Kek based
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>playing against a genuine autist running a million proxies, looked kinda like picrel
>gets audibly mad and shakes with tard rage when you kill his commander
>hit this dude with teferi's into cyclonic rift into an infinite combo twice in the same day
Bro was beyond mad lmao
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There's a recurring theme of "big mana spellslinger" in a lot of recent Izzet stuff and I don't quite get how you're supposed to build it
Unless you're running an infinite money printer like Urza, how are you supposed to consistently generate a shitload of mana without access to G or B? Treasures exist but surely you can't consistently make THAT many with Dockside dead. Rituals?
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>>97882105
No you quit being retarded you realize the banning anything that is a staple means just cascade banning every land, card draw, removal that is the best until you're left with basics and whatever pet creatures you want to run right? Youre not making anything better by getting rid of "doom blade" and replacing with a dozen of "doom blades" with particular stipulations that are better or worse depending on what your particular strategy is
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>>97882467
I've fucked with links in one general for the fuck of it. Changing Lowercase L with an uppercase i for example. Took them 6 or more threads to notice, because who the fuck cares about the links? It was fun.
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>POV: You played a proxy against the average WOTC defender
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>>97882557
I wish I was making it up lol because everyone else in the pod winces when they have to kill the autist's commander because the autist always pouts about it and goes on about how someone else it the threat etc
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>>97882595
I started a war with one retard by accident. One autist got extremely mad, he claimed that he made almost all the threads. It was a rather quick general, so I don't know how that's possible. Anyway. I started making them too early. He hated that. So he started mass reporting my threads and he also started making them even earlier. Which caused people to hate him and report him. I love fucking with the 'tards on 4chan.
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>>97882586
>Trench coat
>Flip flops
>Anime shirt
Could this faggot allocate just a sliver of the time he spends on reddit to learn how to dress like an adult?
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Saying it again for the people in the back who didn't hear: "Do not reply to or interact with people who are being intentionally retarded. They aren't contributing to the thread and they don't want anything from it neither. They are not even tourists, they are here intentionally to fuck around and deserve even less notice."
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>>97882666
Go away Satan
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>Thread almost over?
>Other people joined in making a "proper" OP
Oh the sanctity of the OP, I just remembered that drama
kek
>4 new threads pop up
>One clearly samefagged by himself
>All 4 get deleted
>stop baking too early, okay!!!?!?
>thread hits bump limit
>4 new threads made again
>Wait, the links don't work? REEEEeeeeEee
Good times
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>>97882666
We have just the Commander for you then friend!
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Image
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>>97882719
Milhouse was always a meme.
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>>97882716
Youtube link captures something the image just can't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4SEDzynMiQ&t=44s
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>>97882722
>creature type
>legend
Big if true
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After last thread I decided to build him. Think it is best to primarily go with red battlefield theft cards or black reanimating and deck theft?
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>>97882745
Love this little nibba like you wouldn't habeeb
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>>97882729
I guess I'll just include both.
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Dumb syntax question, does the full party clause here keep the discard? Is the "instead" replacing
>draw a card, then discard a card
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>draw a card
I feel like it's the former but want to be sure
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I don't believe you'd leave the house in the same get up as that dood I think of you much higher than that
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>>97882740
Yes this is the one, thank you
>>97882756
This is another interesting card to use for group slug shenanigans, thanks
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>>97882729
What should I label the section?
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>>97882419
I prefer the cheap beater
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Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices
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>>97883010
Anon was lowkey right for this.
>Sits on their ass with 0 commercial successes since 2013
>Makes all their revenue leeching off actual successful games by acting as a distributor
>Reputation for le epic big discount on big games hasn't been substantiated for years (sales are rarely more than 25% off now and it all comes out of the developer's pocket rather than Valve's)
>They still act like they're industry titans that know how to make games better than literally every other company when all of their biggest titles were already successful mods they poached the developers of (and again, haven't had a game that made more money than it cost to develop since 2013)
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>>97883010
I think the negative reaction was just overwhelming on social media and killed any chance of it. Not worth trying to save that stillborn game.
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He was actually lead designer of it kek
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28 cards short for a new deck but one is Wan shi tong. Do I bite the bullet and order the fancy one? Is that shit worth $100? Most of the rest is lower but I still don't have a badgermole cub either
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I get wanting real cards, but don't act like you're not just being a buyfag.
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>>97883248
I get wanting to buy cheap fakes, but don't act like you're not just being a poorfag
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>>97883255
Post bank account or 401k
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>>97883256
>Proxyfags are starting to go into nuclear cope again.
I will never validate you.
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>>97883282
There's another 5k too.
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>>97883296
Go for it, anything to show you're still having fun with the hobby instead of just being resigned and bitter.
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>>97883332
thanks for the critique of my funpost
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>>97883323
I don't recognize this animu
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>>97883354
would you play with me?
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>>97883374
Shut up.
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>>97883379
>t.
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>>97883402
okie dokie artichokie
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>>97883362
Reminder that fucking Sticker Goblin IS LEGAL IN COMMANDER
IT ADDS 6 RED MANA TO YOUR MANA POOL EVERY TIME YOU CAST IT
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>>97883354
Ban all Innistrad cards
>>97883366
Die
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>>97883296
Not a "custom" card, but I've put together a Final Fantasy UI-themed template to make some cards with
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>>97881576
And then I crushed your face!!
Speaking of which I just replaced Ashiok Dream Render with Stranglehold this morning. Ashiok is great for shutting down green tutor spam though
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>Nice fetch, shame if something happened to it.
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>>97883349
If you're using MSE for the cards, use the "Chop Bottom" option to enter a offset that allows you to push the bottom text upwards and prevent overlapping.
Generally speaking, 8-10 looks decent for the offset.
If you're not already using MSE, consider it.
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what is AGP?
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Rate my cool combo. I can mill my entire deck safe for one card.
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>>97883457
Honest feed back:
Her head alignment looks bad. You should generally aim to have character's faces closer to the top 3/4th's region of the card because faces are usually the first thing a person's eyes will gravitate towards even if they aren't meant to be the focus of the image.
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Just had a fun time with this deck I built from what I could find in a store. Basically I just took all the shitty black bulk commons and turned them into removal
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>>97883464
Do you know about this one? Every tutor turns into -1 card and all the topdeck tutors suck while this is in play.
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>>97883515
Get crime cards for extra value.
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>>97883539
Got em both, cheers
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>>97883504
Cry about it
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TQ: I just posted a reply to the one retard acting like green land tutoring is not a very powerful almost entirely green ability in the previous post
In my deck- as I posted just now I put stranglehold which limits others as a beautiful stax piece in favor of opposition agent and Dream render (both too easy to kill)
For how it would affect me, I have Vampiric, Demonic and Grim Tutor. IF I get so as lucky to draw one, I usually will search for Sol Ring, or Mana Vault if I already have the Ring. Or if it’s later, I’ll find some evasion or some other essential piece like Shadowspear or Exsaguinate if my life total has taken a beating or I need to end the game.
I recently slotted in Urza Saga, Wayfarer’s Bauble (this has been in and out) and Navigation Orb- I often go games without drawing any of these so it’s normal draw whatever and win with my commander which is the win con in my deck. The only fetch I have right now is Polluted Delta.
Urza is great to find something I’m missing be it Sol Ring, Chrome Mox or Mox Diamond or even Shadowspear or Manifold Key or Sensei’s Top. Lots of great options that depend on the board and the turn number.
If I couldn’t use level 3 tutor ability, I might cast Imprisoned in the Moon on it to keep it around as a colorless land or bounce it back to hand or something to get more constructs. Although because I have leyline of singularity I probably would not make many constructs with it.
The two land tutors + the one fetch land I have the deck would likely play as just a typical Grixis deck with no island mountain or swamp searching at all. Usually I do like to grab my underground sea or volcanic island with Delta though :)
If I wasn’t able to use tutors I’m confident that my strong original deck building skills, along with a suite of nice card draw/selection (Ponder, Preordain, Night’s Whisper, Black Market Connections, Rhystic Study, Relic of Sauron and The One Ring + Sensei’s Top) would help me win.
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trannime doesn't belong in magic btw
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>>97883524
Actually no I had no idea about that card but that is awesome as fuck haha. If I made a powered down bracket 3 version of my grixis deck this would be an auto include for sure. I have a handful of black tutors and artifact tutors though in my current B4 version so I think it would probably curt me as well but that’s a great card, holy shit. Thanks for sharing it
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Speaking of Grixis, if you play this in Jeleva you can (ab)use the downside to get your chunky spells off the top.
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>>97883464
Speaking of Stranglehold and the Nuge what is up with those Michigan guys making all those loving songs towards the women in their life. Ted Nugent has stranglehold, Eminem has 97 Bonnie & Clyde & Kim.
If stranglehold is to Ted Nugent what is Eminem’s card? I can’t think of anything for Eminem but I thought of this for Stevie Wonder. Although it’s quite the vibe shift 180° from Nugent/Mathers. What a softy
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>>97883617
>no really I bought them on eBay in like 2009 it was $20!
And also a Mangrove Swamp is NOT the same as a Bayou
t. Florida Man
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>>97882265
>tl;dr
there is a person who decided to build a deck made from the most damaged cards they had in their collections. That liliana in general was damaged by a dog. The owner of the card wrote that on the card since that was the dog's name.
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>>97883579
also to more further answer the thread question:in what I would do if tutors were outright banned
and much more card draw than what is in there. aside from list of cards and taking out a total of 6 tutors of mixed types off the top of my head I would add:
-see beyond
-sign in blood
-baleful strix
-psychic frog
-brainstorm (although I generally dislike this card for not allowing you to scrap what you find if its no good in the moment)
-and 1 more swamp or blue/black land
honorable mentions would go to phyrexian arena making a comeback, Foresee, faithless looting, and ancient craving (hey what happened to blue being the card draw color???!!)
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>>97883646
Bracket 3 decks want to play with good cards, but it's still fair magic. Players aren't comboing off on turn 3 or ramp into a stax piece with a mox. As soon as you stir too far away from winning with combat damage, it's probably not bracket 3 anymore.
General wisdom is your three allowed Bracket 3 Game Changers are real magic cards that synergize with your deck in some way (like Sphinx or Tithe in a deck that lets opponent's draw cards).
Bracket 4 decks run the best cards they can, but *usually* don't run the fast mana GCs like Mana Crypt or Mox Opal to ensure the game still feels like a normal commmander game. Other than that, everything is fair play - Mass Land destruction, Gravepact locks, early infinite combos etc.
Bracket 5 aka cedh is the same as Bracket 4, but with fast mana and you have to include a way to not die on turn 0 to thassas oracle or underworld breach.
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>>97883729
Bracket 2 decks aren't going to have as many cheerios as a bracket 4 or 5 is going to have, so its not going to matter.
Lotus petal is fine on its own, Mox opal is fine on its own, Mox Jasper (lol) is fine on its own. Building a deck that can get them all out within 1 or 2 is just something not going to happen in bracket 2.
Even Sol ring into Arcane Signet, into Mox Opal is possible, but a bracket 2 isn't going to get that all reliably every game, and even then they likely won't do anything with their two mana open on that explosive start.
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>>97883671
b5 is intentionally building broken decks that combo off on like turn 2 with mox diamond/lotus petal/chrome mox into something like necropotence into aetherflux reservoir eventually or some other infinite combo like whenever you discard a card each other player loses life, and they keep looping shit from their graveyard to their hand. pic related is very important to run whenever possible.
forget the name of the discard card but its ghey
theres also big mono red Fireball on everyone that you can somehow trigger which is just a modern day version of the Alpha Channel Fireball, and of course blue has Thoracle to deck yourself out, the contemporary version of the Worldwake Jace shit from 2010.
bracket 4 still plays commander, just with good cards
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Good?
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>at LGS with friends
>need a 4th
>random guy volunteers
>he's polite and friendly
>we all agree on b3
>mfw his deck
>mfw he says it's a 3 because only 3gc
This shit is wack man.
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>>97883752
im a new player and i wanna build a good deck, but im not good enough to know when my deck has too many good cards to be considered unfun. i wouldnt even know how to use them either.
how can i tell when my deck is just going to be unfun to play against?
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>>97883723
bracket 4 absolutely runs Lotus Petal, Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox, Mana Vault. you are a gay retard for suggesting its not normal to run "normal" (fast?) mana rocks in magic that have been in the game since 1993
Mana crypt is banned. Using fast (normal) mana always feels like a normal commander game in B4 except its not 2 entire turn rotations of one person playing a land and passing or playing a land and a birds of paradise/sol ring and passing.
games are eventful and you never know what to expect. when people play a chrome mox or stax piece like blood moon or winter moon a b4's table is like "damn nice play".
where as lower bracket (almost unanimously mono green or Simic troons/faggots) start crying and bitching about how thats not fair!!! and will complain at every good card they see- its not a thing in bracket 4 at all and you remove it/play around it.
there is no expectation that you get to play anything, nor should ANY magic "player" think they are entitled to execute their sloppa mice-and-men-esque game plans, especially if they're playing a pre-con or a net deck.
and back to the standard speed "fast" mana rocks, without those standard mana rocks the game is grindingly slow at the beginning and samey and since the lower brackets favor green land tutoring so much turn 2 and 3 are often some combination of explore/rampant growth/cultivate/kodama's reach. very bland and lame and very gay- which is on brand for gōtc in the 2020s
again you are a massive retard
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>>97883773
put your deck list that you've built into Moxfield (make it private if you want) and it will tell you if you a card is a "game changer" (fake nu-magic speak for good cards) with a little speedometer icon, or if your deck has any 2 part combos that potentially break the game, or "abusive" things like extra turn changing. it will give a bracket suggestion.
none of which that you will likely have (not saying youre too dumb to do that, just if youre a complete newbie its unlikely). theres also a list from February 9 of this year of what the "game changers are" and the bracket outlines
theres also some other sites that use neural nets to analyze your decks like CommanderSalt but they are sloppa and not extremely reliable, but they will ballpark your power level.
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>>97883811
simic (rog thras) is top tier in b5 and only a quiet gentleman's agreement to not abuse gaea's cradle gives the illusion that b4 is not the containment thread of shit and bygone strategies it actually is
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>>97883457
Nice. I wanted to do something similar for my green queen deck but I mainly just used NES font.
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>>97883811
The issue I run into is that I play real Magic cards, and have for 20 years. I have a large collection, but I am not rich. I have no problem with someone proxying to play on a reasonable level, but when you're proxying individual cards worth $1000+ we are simply playing two different games.
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>>97883832
using more than 1 commander is not playing commander and is a massive crutch. you couldn't play a real game of commander and win without janky gimmick cards (or one sided green ramp that is over represented in Simic since blue has absolutely 0)
and yes groomers of the coast enables people to play anti-format cards since they are so desperate to expand the game. I would be embarrassed to actually play that netdeck as im sure you are
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>>97883851
Not that guy, but I personally don't proxy any of the insane shit like RL cards. I just proxy for the fancy foil versions of stuff I already had like fetches and shocks, because fuck owning a dozen copies of each card.
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>>97883850
I'm disappointed this was stuck on a store promo, since my LGS doesn't get the most up to date promo cards.
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>>97883905
>I proxy all of my cards to have anime girls on them and I refuse to play any card that doesn't have an anime girl on it.
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>>97883851
I bought my mox diamond on eBay when it was $70 which was already scalped to fuck because the box set it came in was $35
I bought a French white border volcanic island when it was $40 and no-one wanted to touch them
same argument when people who say they opened their Gaea's cradle in 95 and still play it
they absolutely need to reprint all those cards and demolish the reserve list because I dont even feel safe bringing cards worth more than say $60 let alone an entire deck "worth thousands" (I never put anything close to that into what the cards cost)
on the same token the original commander committee banned the original mox for this same reason. I mean a Mox Diamond is basically in the same ballpark as Mox Ruby or Mox Emerald which are again- banned only entirely because this casual player-made format was not supposed to be vintage 2.0 rich man's club.
now with wizards at the helm of commander AND printing cards directly for it, the onus is on them to reprint staples like the mox so people can actually play the game in a fun and exciting way instead creating the conditions for a secondary market that every "really good card" costs as much as a beater car.
its a repeatable phenomenon that they are actively cultivating with their "reserve list" bullshit that has been an outdated idea since 1996
actually just looking I WISH you could still find $1500 beater cars that actually ran but still- I think you get the point here, pic related
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>>97883934
Yeah I know we're only at 363.
Since the furfag said he's going to keep putting the furry porn link in the OP and the only way to stop him is to make a thread before he can, I guess this is what we're doing now
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>>97883892
it looks like its still only $3 I might actually pick that up just for the FF1 style. although I wish they would have made something more akin to the original 8 bit graphics or something rather than humanoid figures
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>>97883942
fuck off retard
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>>97883954
They really shit the bed not having sprite cards in the FF set. Meanwhile turtles get this shit.
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>>97883966
If you stay in this thread you are a furfag. Just sayin'
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>>97883922
Hey respect if you have those cards. I was retarded and parted with a handful of og duals for Damnations when both were $20 and I was a standard kiddie back in 2008 lmao
I appreciate the game as a trading card game, so I'm a bit less harsh on the reprint policy. I don't mind the high end stuff being so. Collecting is fun when there's some value to be had, especially on the old stuff. Not wild about predatory collector booster shit these days desu, but I just write it off as things I don't need.
What I tend to find in B4 is a breed of player who started like a year ago, play only proxies, and have no sense of what the average player's collection might look like to meet their power level. It's all Mox Diamonds and OG duals in every deck. I have also found B4 tables that basically want to play legacy over a beer and those dudes are based.
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>>97883752
There is no such thing as bracket 4, same as there's no such thing as bracket 5. There's Precons, then casual decks without crutch cards, then decks pretending to be casual with crutch cards, then competitive.
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>>97884093
crutch cards like this?
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>>97884120
No, this. (Although I agree non-basic land tutor should be higher bracket along with all the other generic tutors).
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>>97884285
For $1000 bucks I could get some pretty good proxies.
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Ignore this spammer >>97884396