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Imagine liking MP10

>>11688113
>picrel
Why can’t he just be the damn pistol like he’s supposed to be? The tank retcon for G1 Megatron is so embarrassing…at least do him in the G2 color scheme if you must.

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Ouch...

>>11688195
are you intentionally retarded or just living under a rock

please go try and sell a transforming robot that turns into a realistic walther p38 to children in this day and age. Even ignoring the laws that stop you from doing that, you will get kids shot and you will get sued. And don't even try to start with 'don't make it a realistic firearm' because you'd complain if it wasn't cartoon accurate anyway.

I do agree we need a new g2 megatron though. We've gotten two goddamn laser prime molds now that don't have an accompanying Megatron.

>>11688195
You wouldn't be able to hold it like a role play weapon anyway.

>>11688172
Why is the second figure an oversized CHUG figure in a MP display? Surely its cheaper than SS86 Prime?

>>11688113
Original release looks fine to me, don't give a shit about the leg color. Don't need the beaten up version just because of that.

>>11688195
>Still beating a dead horse
They can't make a pistol toy by law.
People still want a mainline G1 Megatron, so they went for a really clean robot mode with the next most logical alt mode.
They included a small version of his gun mode as a compromise.

That's all there is to it, there's nothing else to discuss. The gun isn't happening ever again unless it's a Japanese exclusive release like an MP or Missing Link.

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>>11688122
>Buy the battle damaged megs
>Remove the legs and swap them with the regular 86 figure
>Return it and get your money back

But don't worry. I'd never, never, never, EVER do something as shitty as that....

Trying to decide if I should get the dramatic capture series with reflector or hold off and see if they do a studio style release. I don't want the thundercracker.

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>>11688209
>Evan is a massive JPBW fan
>get new Lio Convoy
>get new Magmatron
>get new Big Convoy
>hmm…

>>11688172
man, mp-10 did not age well. The munky arms are more noticeable than ever.

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>>11688220

>>11688220
When?

>>11688223
Those are the after-effects of having his spark inside of Primal for a while.

>>11688220
I know some fools are going to have fun with that belly port

>>11688221
Evan works on Studio Series
Mark does Generations

>>11688224
That's the strangest truck dick I've ever seen, and I've seen plenty.

>>11688223
I don’t mind, especially since it was basically the gold standard for G1 Prime toys for a LONG time
>>11688232
I know, but I’m sure he has some influence on the main Generations line as well

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>>11688220
Hate to be a nitpicker, but this isn't even accurate to the movie, the shard pierced Prime's left flank, not his grill.

>>11688248
The peg was probably too big for the left flank.

>>11688248
Guess it'd be too tight with the transformation stuff there?

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PUNISHED AUTISMO

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>>11687966
Thanks.
My set up is very basic, just an 18”x18” light box I got off Amazon, my phone and excessive use of of dutch angles. Then punch up the colours using Photopea.

>>11687980
No blog or socials, just what I post here from time to time. Appreciate it though.

>>11687973
Oh anon, you’re so silly. Here have a (You) and some UTshit.

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I dont like the ab peg and that normal 86 megs should have had the gun, but the entire optimus v megatron fight right to NEVER is one of the most kino, gut wrenching moments transformers as a media entity has to offer, so hasbro might have me here

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>>11688208
I would have waited an eternity for this

>>11688248
Yeah I noticed that too. I dunno, I think they didn't go far enough with the battle damage on either figure, they look more like add on parts to the original decos. I might have considered both of them if they looked REALLY fucked up, but they look pristine besides the new tooling

>>11688220
The corpse redeco is inevitable now. Billions must display their highly-articulated, ~$60 transforming figure laying down like a statue.

>>11688209
>>11688212
>>11688214
They absolutely can make the gun form. The only stipulation in the USA is that there’s a bright plastic cap on the barrel, or the gun toy must be brightly colored.
> I do agree we need a new g2 megatron though. We've gotten two goddamn laser prime molds now that don't have an accompanying Megatron.
I would’ve been fine with a G2 Megatron in studio series style. But the slavish adherence to making G1 not a gun sounds more like a localization/cost issue than any legal compliance thing.
> You wouldn't be able to hold it like a role play weapon anyway.
Transformers can mass shift, anyway, so idc.

>>11688329
kek

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>>11688367
Already confirmed for next year

>>11688408
It took a couple of years, but they're finally churning out official repaints of the SS86 mold. Or rather, the original one and its battle-damaged retool.

>>11688441
https://x.com/xmlzb/status/2015859804397568097?s=46

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>>11688172
Peak

>>11688113
>Autismo: The Fight Injured

>Hasbro will give us two flavors of dead Optimus before they give us Nemesis Prime
Help us Takara New Legends, you're our only hope.

>>11688220
>>11688224
Can I get Nemesis/SG Prime instead of this shit, please?

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>>11688484
>>11688496
Do yourselves a favour and just spend $25 on the KO.

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>>11688369
>They absolutely can make the gun form. The only stipulation in the USA is that there’s a bright plastic cap on the barrel, or the gun toy must be brightly colored.
Dude, they even tried releasing the G1 Megatron in bright orange and blue chrome and even that was cancelled because they couldn't convince Toys R Us to stock it. The gun thing is more trouble than what is worth, nobody wants to risk any possible problems over a toy, no matter how loud they paint it.

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>>11688209
Yea imagine ever doing that? ha ha like that'd ever happen

>>11688550
That's not a toy sold at retail in the US, dumdum. The main target was Japan like any other MP design, those are Takara toys.

You obviously weren't around when retailers had to open the boxes of the MP Megatron and glue orange caps on the barrel for it to be able to be imported to the US.

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Your gun Megatron, sir.

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>>11688568

>>11688209
you're wrong about basically everything, which is sad because the part you were right about is criticizing anon's ignorance

>>11688215
returning it to a retailer would be scummy
returning it to the company would be justice, but that's not available.

>>11688568
man I understand a lot of people want a conversion kit for this but if this is the best they can do why even bother

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>>11688221
my first big transformer
>>11688224
>pic related

>>11688542
This is why we have the terms 'de facto' and 'de jure'

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>>11688329
>Smoking a french fry is the right of all sentient beings

>>11688297
You know how your images have a white halo around everything? That's how you know you were too heavy handed with the editing.

>>11688603
not that guy but trying to be less terribad at photography
what haloes?

>>11688616
Look really closely at some of the edges. The underside of the left arm and the left wing line for instance. There's a very small white glow. It's probably not noticeable on a phone but it is on a larger screen. Too much color punch up.

>>11688625
Ohhhhhhhhh i see it. Yeah.
Is that what does that? if I had to guess I'd just say anon had tried to lower the brightness of the background, and imperfectly masked off the figure. due to that being basically impossible to do perfectly unless it's literally greenscreened in.

>>11688542
Neither paint nor NERF-designing is ever gonna release Megatron as a gun anymore. The Classics Megatron is the final gun Megatron, and today, that is even banned.

>>11688637
at this point i don't even think takara would make a new masterpiece of it, knowing hasbro would probably refuse to even import it with the caps these days

you're gonna have to go with the chinese for this one

>>11688633
Yeah, that's it. You get that exaggeration where light meets dark when something is over processed. Helps to zoom to 100% when editing. Super nitpicky of me to point out though, I admit.

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>>11688584
It’s honestly hilarious how big G2 Megs is. He’s heads and shoulders taller than G2 Laser Prime, about the same as Powermaster Prime, and almost as tall as G1 Trypticon

>>11688643
i'm tellin you man
submarine mode
or sell it as two unrelated products that assemble together. there's always creative ways around things.
>>11688646
well if I was that guy, I'd take that as a helpful tip.
I don't do much photography, but I do fuck with digital art pretty often, and I've had to totally teach myself lighting effects and junk because my stupid stubborn brain hates lessons.
>>11688668
not to mention he's got ZZ cups of injustice. Fucker can't even clear them with his arms. though also his fists don't clear his arm armor, so that's kinda moot.
in terms of proportions he should be fucking laughable, yet somehow, it works. I'd love to see him redone with somewhat more modern sensibilities, but not FULL gundam. Just... a little less crazy. In fact I'd really like to see an Animated style version of this design.

G2 Megatron redo that's not just a G1 tanktron repaint when?

>>11688603
>>11688625
>>11688646
Cheers for the constructive criticism, anon. I've only started having a go at toy photographing fairly recently and I'm figuring it out as I go, so any tips are welcome. I'm using an old iPhone XR and the image quality isn't the best, so I think I've been over-editing my images to compensate.
I'm definitely going to look at a phone upgrade now but any tips you can offer would be most appreciated.

>>11688685
Never.

>>11688686
Cool. I'm sure you know how important light is. Indirect light from say a window or desk lamp with white tissue paper over it to diffuse works good. On your iPhone tap and hold on the figure until you see AE/AF. Slide your finger down to slightly darken the shot. You might even wanna try Portrait mode.

>>11688582
It's literally the Skyboom comic

>>11688113
Annoyed that I missed the preorder for pink Hot Rod because that means he's going to be the one that's nonexistent at retail

>>11688542
I'd love a modern Megatron in that deco.

>>11688309
It will forever bug me that Optimus did not use his built in axe to deliver a point blank finishing blow.

>>11688693
Reverse Convoy?

And by the way, please pray that we can finally see Nexus Prime and Liege Maximo this Friday, at least because that day, Hasbro will show up.

>>11688556
It literally was sold at Retail

>>11688224
I just picture a cartoon mobster with a cigar in his mouth
>Nyeh, Megatron must be stopped no matter tha' cost, see?

>>11688526
Oh wow only 25? Its the same size right?

>>11688195
Megatron should be an artillery platform.

>>11688712
A shame the battle damage parts were already pre-baked into the mold. I didn't like the original head and I hoped for a G1 accurate battle damaged one, but this mp 10 inspired head doesn't do it for me.

>>11688760
maybe a coaxial cable got severed or his axe generator was damaged

>>11688794
MP10 will be a benign cancer to Optimus toys forever more

>>11688172
MP-44 is the odd one out. MP-10 is fine. It still has one of my favorite Optimus heads.

>>11688213
I really don't see how it's all that different from what MPs used to be. It isn't toonshit, this is true. But if not MP where would it go? What makes it less deserving than MP-10? I think MP-10 has a slightly better truck mode but that's about it.

I understand not liking it. I even better understand not wanting it. Call it MP-10-2 if you want. You have a better argument for MPG Hot Rod.

>>11688113
Damn they're really gonna sell the correct color legs with battle damage so you need to buy the original anyway lol

>>11688823
the mask is kinda falling away
Though some of the decisions I feel like it's because the idiots upstairs asked for one thing (say, Blackarachnia having black spider legs for more realism) and they pushed like "hey what if we did the toy deco Blackarachnia" and internally going (so you can swap out the orange spider legs...) like maybe the designers are looking out for us... ..heh..

>>11688823
It's even more annoying, because they also seem to have changed the dark brown for black, so it's like a huge fuck you to people interested in both releases:

-Normal release fucks up several colors and lacks the purple gun
-Damaged release has all that, but they didn't paint over the battle damage correctly so it looks awful.

>>11688837
best solution is to swap the chest and the head from the normal release to the battle damaged release and sell the leftovers.

>>11688823
The original release already had the correct leg color though.

guys it's not even the right altmode
aren't all other quibbles pointless? just dont get one at all. give a chinaman money for one and then feel bad later.

>>11688863
The color is almost blue, it should be closer to Grey or silver.

didnt takara already do their version with more correct colors?

>>11688839
I'm shit out of luck there. Targets don't exist here and after getting it, I'll still have to sell the extra one. Too much or a hassle.
>>11688871
No, they had a promotional copy but their promo copies don't always have finished color layouts.

>>11688870
Grey on my machine.

>>11688873
so not so much 'no' as 'not yet'
and I did say 'already' so yeah. okay thanks.

>>11688195
>Why can’t he just be the damn pistol like he’s supposed to be?
Because at least 50% of transformers buyers are still kids, and they don't want to sell a guy to a kid for fear of being sued. The law allows for it with specific actions, but that doesn't mean they won't have to pay off settlements not to mention pr.
Big toy companies are risk averse because kids are fickle and they can already hit slumps by something just not being "in" that year.

Not to mention, the gun was in fact a real gun, a walther p38. Walther currently licenses to airsoft makers, which qualify as toys, so hasbro might also just might not have the ability to get the legal rights either. Not to mention g1 used accessories from "the man from Uncle" which got a reboot movie 10 years ago, so the rights might get muddy. It's like how some g1 autobots just can't be their g1 alt modes anymore.

And making it a knockoff gun that doesn't look like a walther p38 but still looks like megatron... I dunno if that's possible.

They should have made him a rail gun. Still has the pistol look, but not the shape.

>>11688868
>guys it's not even the right altmode
>aren't all other quibbles pointless?
Not really, no, since ss86 was always about getting as close to picture perfect robot modes as possible.

Kup was such a let down, and that was the only one they tried to focus on the alt mode. And he was in the first wave, so they've long since abandoned that.

>>11688881
yeah there's so many cool alternate altmodes they could go with, some of which could be 3rdparty modded into a gun.
a tank is lazy and shows a lack of faith in their product. He should absolutely be a rail gun (that is, the kind on train rails, not a magnetic accelerator), or one of those rolling cannons..
>>11688884
ohhh in that case, yeah. I can see that being the priority.

>>11688172
MP10 really is the odd one out. The other three have this nice streamlined heroic design, and then there's MP10 looking like a doodle drawn by a guy who might have heard the name Optimus Prime once in a crowded room.

>>11688863
>shills are still trying to use this cope
grim

>>11688760

The double axe handle is more badass because he's doing what Megatron said he would (but didn't because he's a cheating piece of shit) and crushing him with his bare hands.

>>11688934
oh damn, honorable to the last.

>>11688904
The shills that... are not buying two of the exact same toy?

>>11688779
Get the slightly more expensive one instead of AS for better quality

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>>11688248
Don't worry, it's show accurate.

>>11688309
>>11688113
>>11688208
I still wonder what the experience was when the movie was new in theaters. It must've devastated a mass of viewers

>>11689042
every 80s kid i've talked to has agreed, that fucking kicked them in the grundle.

>>11689042
>>11689043
I feel like the casual, brutal ways they were willing to kill off characters kids had spent 60 plus episodes with is not only what makes The Movie work, it's also what has allowed Transformers to survive past the 80s. I hope they do battle damaged/dead versions of every character that got it just so I can eventually have a section of my TF The Movie shelf that's all robot corpses.

>>11689084

>I think the closest I ever had as a 90s kid was Beast Wars Optimud Primal but Rhinox goes to the astral realm the next episode and he came back shortly after that

For me it's the end of BW season 2. BW Megs blowing off Prime's head, like the first 30 minutes of The Movie, really leaves you with the feeling that the good guys are well and truly fucked in a way that they can't come back from.

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>>11689084
>And Bob getting sent to the internet in ReBoot.
i'm 40 and i'm the 90s kid i never saw Transformers The Movie as a kid (in fact...there are no memories of 80s cartoons in my brain - i start to remember TV-shows only from early 90s).

And fucking YES so much yes Reboot...
reboot was my first "trauma" (if we don't coount Don Bluth cartoons and Lion King) - it was when Enzo gets his eye cut by that Diablo-guy and next episode he grows up.
it blew my mind and it was the first time TV-show made me feel sadness and danger.
PS:
since im 40 and i dont remember cartoons in the 80s...i assume all those people who want "cartoon accuracy" and enjoyed Transformers in the 80s ...they might be close to 50 i guess...
damn...we are old

>>11689084
>Watership Down
these examples are complete bs. It's what i call "TOP10 le ebin creepy youtube cartoons"
Nobody was scared of such stuff back then.
It was either edgy-cool or badass or fucked up but it wasnt scaring us.
It just made kids say "holy shit did you saw that cartoon where rabbits rip their faces off ?? :D Hahaha lol fuck it was fucking epic :D"

Cartoons that traumatized us were usually more profound and did so on a different level, showing the death of a relative (or a friend we've gotten used to over many episodes or a movie length) or changing the tone of the genre really quickly like with Reboot.

>>11689043
Did they leave the theater crying and/or disowned the toys out of betrayal, or something?
>>11689087
>it's also what has allowed Transformers to survive past the 80s.
how?

>>11689107

>how

Because it clearly left a strong emotional impact on the kids who saw it and people buy into stories more when the stakes feel real. Setting the precedent that you can kill off Transformers characters onscreen (due to being robots) was also fucking huge for media aimed at children during that time and for what it would mean for the franchise going forward. The Autobot shuttle massacre is what paved the path to shit like Dinobot's last stand and Starscream sacrificing himself towards the end of Armada.

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Saw this on twatter. Thought of /tfg/

https://x.com/TransformersDen/status/2015996095566885053#m

>>11689164
>>11688220
Now re-enact it

>>11689164
Yeah, Japan doesn't give a FUCK about icing or just replacing a main character to sell toys. My favorite was watching Yatterman from the 70's which when it was time to introduce the big new toy had the episode start with the characters DIRECTLY addressing the audience saying "oh by the way this is our new mecha now hope you like it because it's not going away"

>>11689194
>it's not going away
Pretty ballsy.

>>11689103
>Hahaha lol fuck it was fucking epic
You only have that reaction if you've already been desensitized. Probably by watching irl movies you really shouldn't have at too young an age.

We talking about cartoon trauma? Has the Beast Wars Transmutate episode been mentioned? That episode kinda messed me up for a bit.

>>11688113
So Is this what they're going to do to all the figures? Weren't there SS Insecticons in a pipeline? Are they just going to be the Generations version with damage?

>>11689084
See this is why no one likes UTshit trology, literally watered down cartoons made by japs who still thinks transformers can only be consuned by literal toddlers. Not surprising since the toys are literal tonka toy bricks that only said toddlers would enjoy and caused the dark ages of transformers before michael bay came in and fixed it with a heavy dosage of g1. Literally nothing in UTshit trilogy did anything revolutionary or had stakes. No one developed any trauma or emotions unlike G1 where everyone cried because the literal childhood hero Optimus Prime fucking dies.

Isn’t Kranix and SS86 Cyclonus going up for PO today?

>>11689254
I don’t think so, I think it’s just Optimus and Megatron today

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>Missing link Grimlock comes with a Diaclone driver

And Takara couldn't do this 25 years ago when it reissued the fuck out of G1 because..............? And for only $140!

>>11689294
>$140

why are you using bbts prices?

>>11689294
I thought Grimlock was never reissued because I heard they lost the mold.

>>11689309
They apparently made a new one. If the Chinese can make all-new G1s that are good quality, then so can Hasbro and Takara using the same methods. With this maybe they'll eventually get around to the other 4 dinobots (and Mirage too).

>>11689310
You omitted the best part
It was a truck carrying toys

>>11689041
Seriously reminded me of the second Kirenger's death in Gorenger. Same spot on the equivalent of a stomach from some sharp object (while Optimus got hit by shrapnel, Kirenger got stabbed by a giant can opener blade).

>>11689310
The early days of anime was the wild west territory

I hope we see Jetfire soon, and I hope he's good.

>>11689358
Ngl at first I thought this thing was redundant but it's really starting to grow on me.

>>11688637
It was not the final gun Megatron, the cute little legends class Reveal The Shield one was, and frankly I still don't know how they got away with that even then

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I know it’s not going to happen, but I realized we technically have all the molds to make Galva Convoy with the Covenant of Primus

>>11689310
Minky Momo is the fourth great evil yokai.

>>11689294
I'll wait for the inevitable cartoon deco. It bothers me the sword is not red or orange

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>>11688951
>The shills that...are defending Hasbro scamming people by selling the wrong colors first?
Correct.

>>11689579
What's far more likely is the response to the original color was so intense, they had time to reverse course for this version 8 months later

>>11689309
They used 3d scanners to redo Optimus like 7 years ago.
Losing molds doesn't matter anymore.
Welcome to the future.

>>11689579
Not the wrong colors though.

>>11689405
I love how both Tatsunoko and Tezuka both just made their own works (Hutch the Honeybee and Unico respectively) that was just "hey, what if our cute animal protagonist's life SUCKED and was full of MISERY"

>>11689410

Wait, can they do that?

>>11689638
What do you mean?

>>11689683

Wait, hang on, you mean Armada Jetfire. For some reason I thought you were suggesting Missing Link Jetfire. Which is probably impossible.

>>11689616
Well, it still matters in that they have to justify tooling the new one

>>11689684
Missing Link Jetfire would be redundant, Macross already makes stuff like that all the time

>>11689684
You say that, but I believe Bandai are doing a remake of the original VF-1 toy in a similar vain to the Missing Link stuff.

>>11689637
The protagonists are allegories of the creator's professional lives. Working in anime/manga, especially back then, sucked.

>>11689690
Look at Eva.

I knew putting the vehicle kibble on a fembot’s thighs would look good, glad to see my exact idea put into use (even if it’s not transformers)
https://x.com/ming08871_/status/2015984948004733190

>>11689694
There's a TON of anime/manga that talks about how shitty the industry is. Bakuman, Paranoia Agent, Texhnolyze, Shirobako, Oshi no Ko, Angel’s Egg, Revolutionary Girl Utena... it seems like you don't really see that theme in western animation.

>>11689702
I think it’s a mixture of somewhat better conditions in America and the majority of animation studios being owned by massive corporations. Warner Bros isn’t going to necessarily greenlight an animated movie that talks about how terribly they treat their animators. The “animation is for kids” idea in America also doesn’t help

>>11689759
Western animation jokes come in three tiers
>Writers: Haha we're funny people and executives are SO lame
>Animators: Haha we work SO hard and nobody gives us any credit!
>The overseas animators: Incompetent Korean slave labor

>>11689684
They just collaborated for Macross 7, so the chance is there... or at least do an official VF-1S with the fast pack on one of the various macross lines.

A thought occurred to me the other day and I keep thinking about it. Since Car Robots was meant to be a throwback to early G1 and Diaclone, are the Spychangers meant to be a throwback to the Mini-Vehicles?

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Wild King sparks some ideas for me. The concept involves color-coded elements. I came up with this idea because Optimus is red and blue, which will make him a fire and aqua element. This will create a new play gimmick where Optimus can perform a form change. In the drawing here, I just duplicated one drawing and recolored different elements just to illustrate my rough idea.
Think of it as something like Kamen Rider Geats and Build.

>>11689167
We'll never know the outcome of the hunt...

>>11689610
I genuinely don’t see what’s wrong with the original

>>11689838
>They just collaborated for Macross 7, so the chance is there...
The problem is that Harmony Gold still has the rights to the original SDF Macross and its designs. Since Jetfire was literally a VF-1, they'll never be able to sell him in America without HG's permission - and we already know what their answer will be.

>>11689875

The answer is "Fine...jerk." HG cannot stop Macross toys from being sold in America anymore.

>>11689875
>>11689876
Honestly the Harmony Gold Robotech legal stuff is up there with the Atgames Mrs. Pac-Man kerfuffle in terms of really stupid legal issues

>>11689883

At least its over. For now.

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Anyone know if these are actually good, figure-wise? I love the concept but they're pretty pricy

>>11689886
Im sad I missed getting the full set $40 each a couple years ago

>>11689084
the dinozords being destroyed definitely got me sweating. And that was a special primetime airing, as if to suggest 'your parents will wanna know this happened too, and also cry'

>>11689099
I'm lucky I'm a bit older than you, so when that happened, my reaction was "fuck yeah, instead of looking super pig disgusting, AnrAIa looks hot now"

>>11689194
I'm reminded of the situation with Joe the Condor. it made the sanitized dub's job a lot easier.

>>11689204
i think some affiliates skipped the episode, because i watched religiously back then and i didnt catch Transmutate's episode until 2007ish
>>11689310
yeah then she got Sledge Hammer'd back to life.

>>11689637
for that matter, Jungle Emperor Leo
he gets one of the first western sponsorships to make a show, they ask him to tone down this, tone down that, then even after he does, they STILL butcher it on their end and sanitize out all the conflict and death

So when he gets to do a sequel on his OWN terms.. it is just grim and unpleasant. These are the wages of censorship, they only push things too far the other way.

>>11689616
howcome playmates doesn't have access to this technology? they've been self-bootlegging for ages now, you can see the new seam lines.

>>11689689
what was it missing for articulation? I briefly had Jetfire and I recall him seeming basically perfect.

>>11689696
ehh that's a little too far AND she still has a backpack, buuut... hmm.
what does she turn into, a cat? what's the thigh kibble?
>>11689769
I've never seen the korean slave labor referenced in any western animated product without it being massively sympathetic to them
>WHO IS DRIVING oh my god BEAR is driving how can that BE?

>>11689978
I mean, hasbro is 50x bigger than playmates

>>11689949
>i think some affiliates skipped the episode, because i watched religiously back then and i didnt catch Transmutate's episode until 2007ish
Oh, wow... what state?

>>11689204
That episode has to be one of the few Transformers things where Optimus fails.

Will we get a rerelease of the Weijiang Predaking after the failed coup?

>>11689994
ah okay.
>>11690002
Minnesota. fuckin sucked, too.

>>11690063
>Minnesota
That checks out. Many Midwest affiliates were pretty conservative. I legit remember seeing disclaimers that that episode might be "psychologically distressing for young viewers".

>>11690069
in the 90s? That is not a thing I recall ever seeing, that was a later era, pushed by liberals.

>>11690074
>conservative? Sounds liberal!

>>11690076
Anon are you by any chance like, under 25?

>>11689949
>i think some affiliates skipped the episode, because i watched religiously back then and i didnt catch Transmutate's episode until 2007ish
The funny thing is that the Transmutate episode was made in place of an even more fucked up episode that they decided not to go with, "Dark Glass" - of the two, "Transmutate" was considered the least upsetting choice.

>>11690094
right? it's too bad since Dark Glass had an important plot point to it, but we can still headcanon that most of it happened. If not directly that way, perhaps through less direct means..

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>>11690094
>The funny thing is that the Transmutate episode was made in place of an even more fucked up episode that they decided not to go with, "Dark Glass"
Actually, Go with the Flow was made instead of Dark Glass. While Larry DiTillo claimed that in an interview, the timeline doesn’t add up, since Transmutate was the immediate episode after Dinobot's death and Dino 2 wouldn’t show up until season 3. Also, Dark Glass was listed as part of Season 3 at BotCon 1998 (June 19, 1998), after Transmutate had already aired (March 10, 1998 or May 2, 1998, depending on the network)

>>11688172
Imagine liking the MPG prime with retarded feet, legs and shoulders.
Boot licking retard. Holy fuck

>>11688172
MP10 mogs them all tho

>>11690118
i suppose it can be hard to remember everything from the production of an old show.

>>11689696
All the Korean robots are boys even when they have a woman voice actor.

>>11690143
I think this the first one they're actually conceding is a girl.

>>11689696
>>11690143
>>11690162
no one cares about card shit so you link it here like anyone gives a fuck?

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such anger.
Learn to control it, or it will control you

>>11689981
>what does she turn into, a cat?
A sportscar. The new bots this season have lightly animal themed robot modes and heavily animal themed accessories. This one is a cheetah and she gets paw-boots and paw-gloves to enter a battle mode.

>>11690178
huh, classic partsform

>>11690178
>>11690194
why are you trannies obsessed with this retarded shit

>>11690069
>>11690074
>>11690076
You youths...
The phrase "conservative" was used more to describe values held by the post wwII America as a whole, not just politics back in the 80s and 90s. Hence why you'd have conservative Democrats or liberal Republicans (neo-conservatives)
What would now be called "traditionalists"
So plenty of issues that cut across party lines were called conservative even though it wasn't a left/right issue, it was a protection oriented mindset.
Same thing was true of the term liberal for most of our history. It only started meaning JUST the left during fdr, then went away, and made a come back with hippies.

Mn was heavily Democrat state government at the time of BW, most of the mid west was. But overprotective moms know no political party. They are as ubiquitous as schoolyard bullies.

>>11690219
yes anon, and telling someone what they aren't allowed to see is liberalism. it's saying that other people's feelings matter more than your desires. It works on the basis of "whatever you think about is how you're going to act"

conservatism is saying that nobody SHOULD be trying to say those things, not that they shouldn't be allowed to, only forbidden from DOING them. It attacks the deeper root of the perceived ill.
Or it would, except yknow, the media. it's fantastic at whipping up well-meaning people into destroying their own side.
>But overprotective moms know no political party. They are as ubiquitous as schoolyard bullies.
I can certainly jive with this statement, yeah.

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Made a new head for Powerflash that's closer to the original toy, I can't make the head fin any bigger than this though since if I do it gets in the way of the transformation so I'm calling it toy accurate rather than box art accurate.

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And here he is with my other Autobot Action Masters. So far my plans for them are:
>Kick-Off, Jackpot, & Mainframe
Use their official toys, no reason not to
>Rad
Cybertron Smokescreen, as the designer intended
>Powerflash
You're looking at it
>Skyfall
Metalhawk mold repainted up with a new head. He'll get painted up when it gets warmer out.
>Rollout
Modded Generations Scoop with a new head/chest
>Omega Spreem
Modded Siege Impactor, his body should be arriving this week
>Circuit
Bite the bullet and spend a benjamin on the TFCC redeco of Axor
>Over-Run
This one's throwing me for a loop. I could use the Energon Bulkhead mold since that's what Fun Pub did for their comics, but I'd rather use the Quickstrike repaint as a basis since it's already red. Problem is that version is pretty rare and goes for like $200 on ebay. I'll probably just get Bulkhead at some point and do a new head for him.
>Sprocket & Rumbler
Ok these two I really don't know. They're pretty generic looking in bot mode without having any super obvious alt-mode details and FunPub gave Sprocket a pretty generic Cybertronian alt mode. I kinda like the idea of using SS TFOne Starscream as a base, removing the wings and making it more of a speeder style of thing, but that'd be a lot of work on my end.
>Windmill
Lol. Lmao even. Reusing a Gen Selects Rotorstorm sounds most appealing since they're both blue helicopters with pink accents, but again dropping $60 on a deluxe for a kitbash is dumb as fuck.

All things considered I'm probably never gonna get to the last two since they feel like the least significant of the Autobot bunch. That and the 6 I have already plus Rollout, Over-Run, Omega Spreem, and Circuit make an even 10 dudes, which is more than enough Action Masters in anyone's life.

>Have issues with an order not tracking for over a week.
>Before that the order was it was stuck in the same general area for a week
>It also had several preorder figures that everyone already got in December.
>Have to go through several hoops for a refund.

They just lost a lawsuit over this and they're somehow worse than before. I had to chat with them for over 2 hours just for them to process a refund their own site was recommending.

>>11690319
Shit, so mad I forgot to say this was Amazon.

>>11690321
why bother to improve if you already lost the lawsuit? never getting that money back.
we've forgotten how the carrot and stick work

>>11688369
No, the stipulation is far more than an orange cap. They can't sell realistic toy guns unless they're completely brightly colored. Nobody that wants a gun Megatron wants one in bright colors.

Also, toy guns are illegal to sell in California and New York. Hasbro isn't going to make a product they're unable to sell in the entire country, it would make shipping across states that can't sell it a logistical nightmare. And besides all of that, Hasbro doesn't want to be responsible for creating a product that ends up being involved in some kind of gun controversy. Imagine liberals getting pissed at Hasbro for making a realistic gun Transformer that some dumbass used to rob someone and got shot by a real gun in return.

>>11688775
Not in America, you retard. The country where those toy gun restrictions exist.

>>11690334
everything you're worried about has the same likelihood of happening no matter what they do

what the actual fuck new york, you used to be cool

>>11689007
Is there a version of him without the trailer in the G1 colors?

>>11690336
If they don't make the figure, the likelihood of something happening with a gun product they created is literally zero.

>>11688209
>p38 to children

Children probably aren't getting any transformers over $35

>>11690337
For the MD? Don't think so, only the recolors are released without a trailer.

>>11690338
in my eyes, that statement makes you a fool

>Randomly find an MPG Nucleon Quest Convoy for 190
Fuck yeah, waiting paid off.

>>11690348
What are you talking about? They're worried about making a product and it being involved with a controversy. You said the likelihood of that happening is the same whether they make it or not, which is retarded. If they make nothing, they have nothing to worry about. If there's no gun Megatron, there's no risk of it being involved with any of the things I mentioned happening.

>>11690356
people holding you responsible for shit that wasn't your fault and liberals getting pissed are inevitabilities. Events you can't make a dent in no matter how you try.

>>11690334
>Nobody that wants a gun Megatron wants one in bright colors.
...I'd be happy with this, honestly >>11688542

>>11690303
Did anyone make a replacement head for Jackpot? The official one sucks so much,

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>>11689042
>I still wonder what the experience was when the movie was new in theaters. It must've devastated a mass of viewers

I was 8 and it was mindblowing seeing it in a theater as I had never seen animation at that level and wouldn't again until AKIRA.

Just the opening sequence alone was incredible to see with soo much detail as Unicron is tearing the planet apart.

https://youtu.be/cJRfABxL4R8?si=zRjC8nOc4iqE7tPD

The music that starts at 00:10 as you see Unicron sailing between two suns still haunts me as it evokes a feeling I cant't articulate.

P.S. yes, I cried like a little bitch when Optimus died while I'll never forget the shock of seeing characters geting killed or their lifeless bodies!!!FACT!!!

I hate target

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>>11690404

While I wanted to see how that pic would look as claymatiion?!?FACT!!!

>>11690411

Me too. I just switched my battle damaged Optimus and Megatron preorders to Pulse purely because I hate the random authorization charges Target does for theirs.

>>11690412
I hate that I can't tell if this is real or AI generated.

>>11690423
It’s AI generated. Most of Wheeljack's body is missing and Windcharger's arm splits in two. Either the person making the sculpture sucked at accuracy and anatomy, or it’s AI generated.

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Despite memes
And no wrists
And the awful Combiner waist/ankle joint

Brawl good

>AI Sloppers
Hang em

>>11688542
Did any 3rd Party group ever make a Safety Megatron recolor? Newage, maybe? That metallic blue is dope.

>>11690445
>3rd Party
so bootlegs?

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>Missing Link is peak toy aesthetic
>3D Prints are peak toon aesthetic
What's even the point of MPs now?

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>>11690303
Nice actionmaster collection
>Sprocket & Rumbler
Those 2 can be done with TR blurr or Triggerhappy

>>11690446
No, legboots. I need a new pair of waders.

>>11690450
Upscaling mainline deluxes and charging you x5 the price for them.

A thought just occurred to me. Do you think they'll repaint SS86 Megs in trans-purple like that Selects Galvatron? (hopefully with not grid lines)

I'd definitely buy the mold then.

>>11690560

Dead Optimus has already been confirmed, so I don't see why they wouldn't squeeze one more The Movie figure out of that Megatron mold.

Trying to make a somewhat coherent Beast Era timeline. I think this is a good general idea.
- Beast Wars season 1 (300 years later line cut in Japanese dub, hence why JPBW set far in future)
- Beast Wars II (characters are aware who Optimus Primal is)
- Beast Wars season 2
- Beast Wars Neo (originally aired directly after II, but takes place a couple years later in-universe, Cybertronians seem to have majority animal alt modes, not issue given BM Nightscream)
- Beast Wars season 3
- Car Robots (old Predacon logo, characters aren’t Technorganic, must be before BM ending, could be during BW season 3 or 5 year gap between BW/BM, do CR characters have communication with Cybertron?)
- Beast Machines (Vector Sigma acts differently from Neo, possibly changed due to Megatron's rise to power)

Apocrypha
- BM Magmatron bio describes BWNeo events in past tense
- Dirge appears in TotGD pre-BW
- Gathering and Ascending have BWII and Neo characters, takes place during BW season 3
- Shockaract saga is time loop, doesn’t affect anything

>>11690581

Are BWII and Neo worth watching? I got Magmatron and the new Big Convoy because they look cool and I like beast bots, but I've never watched those particular toy commercials.

>>11690176
Yodent

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Despite a certain quote about dinosaurs and the ice age, Grimmy's doing pretty good for himself out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRjxiGHeLns

MPG-17's transformation. No real surprises but it looks solid.

>>11690607
I think they’re pretty good. They’re very similar in tone to American Beast Wars in my opinion, so if you like that, you’ll probably like them too. As far as I can tell Iwanami didn’t have anything to do with them, so his dubbing quirks are missing. My only complaint is each series' pacing. II starts out super engaging and intriguing but slows down significantly in order to introduce more characters, while Neo starts really slowly to set up all the characters but has an amazing ending arc.

>>11690607
I've watched most of BWII and it's largely pretty boring

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>>11690412

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Love both of these toys

>>11690404
Nice
as a 90s kid, arcade games did that for me. I was astounded at these incredible animations, especially capcom games. for fuckin DAYS after an arcade trip I'd just feel the inspiration to act out cool fighting moves and shit

>>11690581
>Cybertronians seem to have majority animal alt modes,
point of odor:
if we're including Beast Machines as canon, then Cybertronians still mostly have vehicle modes. Nightscream was an odd one, finding a fossil bat, serving to clue us in that Cybertron used to be organic.

>>11690607
I wish they were. i like so many things about them, but they really do just seem dull.

>>11690671
heehee, me grimlock enjoy cold feeling on taint

Missinglink BW Megatron recolored from Grimlock

I'm going to have to blow up target to get that new Optimus aren't I? Had no idea they were even up. Got megs POed with a 20% discount but I really wanted OP.

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>>11690766
Cybershark is great. I got the retro reissue because he was £5 on Amazon and it was maybe the best 5 quid I ever spent.
Found a decent priced MIB BWII Hellscream on Mercari a few weeks ago, so now he's on the way.
I'll have to get Sharp Edge at some point too.

>>11690607
BW2 is good when The Jointrons, The Seacons, Scuba, or Megastorm are on screen.

>>11690831
The whole point of Missing Link is that it's the original toys with modern articulation added. A Missing Link BW Megatron would just be his original Ultra-Class toy, but with ankles and MAYBE a robot hand added inside his pincer/lance tail thing.
Honestly, there's really no point to doing Missing Link Beast Wars/Beast Machines toys, because most of them still hold up today; they were nowhere near as janky as the G1/G2 toys.

>>11690860
I say they need help, but I do agree that merely adding a few points of articulation wouldn't be enough. I'd rather they get the.. well, for lack of a better example, the playmates tmnt treatment they've been doing lately, where they make a new figure based on the old one, meant to represent it, in the same size, but with its goofiness ironed out.

>>11690864
What goofiness though? Cause I’d argue that’s part of the appeal.
If you want more show accuracy there’s MP and generations.

>>11690864
>playmates tmnt treatment they've been doing lately, where they make a new figure based on the old one, meant to represent it, in the same size, but with its goofiness ironed out.
Like what Mattel are doing with with MOTU Origins?

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>>11690776
To be fair, we don’t see a lot of Cybertron's population in detail aside from a few extras that look like Soundwave and Prowl. We also know Megatron's virus can affect those with animal alternate modes because it affected Rhinox and Silverbolt.
>>11690848
Speaking of the Cyber Beasts, I’ve always wondered which came first in development, Thrustor or TM2 Dinobot, because they both clearly have similar design philosophies, like the monocle eye
>>11690852
I also like the Combatrons, especially Starscream and BB

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I know this will flare some tards
But with APC doing 3rd Party/Reproduction of the Transformers Prime gang, most being the First Edition molds with improvements/Better paint/details should I bother hunting down a FE Starscream?
Or wait for that which will more than likley have improvements on it and better details. More than likely for same or cheaper than a genuine FE
The Airachnid and Bulkhead had me already wanting the full Prime gang from them

>>11690852
Jointrons, my beloathed
I fucking hate them so much

>>11690900
depends how soon you want it. It's possible it might take another 2 years or more before anything surfaces.

>>11690900
I bought Dark Empress, she's really cool, but I'm always afraid of snapping something.

>>11690883
little things. it's kinda hard to enumerate. but wrist swivels ALONE would serve a lot of purpose.
>>11690884
I believe I have heard people making that comparison, yes.
>>11690895
that's a good observation.. i bet both of those were proposed designs for transmetal 2s before they decided what they wanted those to be.

>>11690895
The fact that Primal specifically cites the Oracle telling him the Beast Wars happened to bring organic beast modes back to Cybertron, Cheetor finding nothing out of the originary of the Vehicon altmodes and seeing them as typical cybertronians instead of noting how weird it was they were vehicles, and hell the BW crew all noting their beast modes as new to them(and implying they picked up new names) all point to beast modes being uncommon on Cybertron. At least not standard.
The BWII crew also had to reformat to animals.
With Neo it's vague but the manga, while not compatible with the anime for a lot of reasons, makes them colonists from other worlds, and I can see them coming preformatted with beast modes already when they get assigned to Big's crew

>>11690904
i am so not into them but I get why some folk are.

>>11690913
Neo implies that by then, everyone used organic beast modes for convinience, and have done so for a good amount of time, which does add to the impression that II happened a long time go, even if they never explained where most of the cast of II was during Neo.

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>>11690895
>>11690912
So adding to this, one concept for a Dragon Megatron would've just been the 96 T.Rex Ultra retooled into a dragon.
There's a pattern of inspiration between the US and Japanese side of the market that I noticed
Galvatron had his spark crystal type chest, the TMII imitate it, as well as the cyborg beasts
the BW Neo toys have three modes like Transmetals
BM has the best vs vehicle theme like BWII

>>11690913
Later media would mention that Cybertron was still an organic planet by the time of BWII, but it was reformatted into a mechanical planet during Big's time. So while this is a retcon, you could say they were still figuring out if they should stick to organic or mechanical alt modes until they finally settled on organic by BWN.

>>11690905
The true pain
Tho hopefully Starscream, Ratchet or a Knockout are next on the release list

>>11690909
Yea I heard the spiderleg's you gotta be careful with

>>11690909
>>11690934
Handle her gently, she is a lady.

>>11690929
fascinating. I like the bifurcated tail, but where the fuck does the lance come from?

it's also really sad how unsatisfying dragon-arms always are, especially given how Gundam seems to perfect them. Somehow in any kind of beastformer, having such a small, short-snouted head on a flexible neck-arm feels very unsatisfying. the t-rex head is the only one that worked, and ONLY when you make it properly large. Lookin at you, Kingdom.

>>11690613
I'm liking the MPG Optimus more than I thought I would

>>11690927
Well we know where the main cast of II is- in the void of space, until the end of Neo
the others remained on Gaia/ Earth, presumably also returning at the end of Neo with a few being seen.

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>>11690913
I rewatched the first episode of Neo and caught this about Big's crew. I also find it interesting that Vector Sigma is the one the Maximals rely on for information in Neo. Maybe it was trying to subtly reformat Cybertron at the time, but was impeded by Neo's plot and Megatron's takeover, so it had to rely on the only beasts left to speed the process up
>>11690929
I’m convinced that this retool is what led to the whole “Inferno was meant to be a new body for Megatron” thing. Given it’s a dragon it was probably labeled something like “Inferno Megatron” which the BW writers mistook for the ant Inferno instead

>>11690848
Are you me? That’s not the exact Cyber Beast I recently received from Mercari, but everything else checks out.

>>11690607
I think Car Robots is the best of the trilogy, it's like the polished opus of what the first two were going for; that said, I think BW Neo has plenty of fun stuff about it. Love the characters, fun episodes, it's just not got the manic high energy that Car Robots would later hone lol. Big Convoy's characterization is pretty different from most Primes, but even if it's another trope of its own (lone wolf has to train cadets), I think it was still done sweetly. I'd say it's worth a shot, at least!
Some people really like BW II, and by god I tried to like it, but I couldn't. The art is terrible, really cheap and they plainly didn't know how to draw animals. And, I found most of the characters really lacking - too many really basic anime-comedy tropes that fell flat for me. And yeah what that anon said, I loathe the Jointrons especially lmao. HOWEVER, I love Scuba - that guy is always awesome. He's just a random extremely based dude in the middle of all this lmao. Maybe try it out, perhaps you'll gel with the show better than I did.

>>11690970
>probably labeled
ah, time for my shitty but somehow growing katakana skills to come in clutch..
uhh it says 'metals dragon megatron' which tracks.

>>11691000
i love anime comedy but dammit, you have to TIME IT right, and give it some depth. They did not do either. This is no Tenchi, or.. Excel Saga. and neither of those feels would really suit transformers anyway. If they wanted to add levity, they should have leaned more into like, hot-blooded hero conflicting with bored cynical guy type of humor. Anime around that time was usually pretty good at that. Give it more of the Azumanga Daioh feel and I think it would have worked a lot better.

>>11691000
>>11691019
I think what we're all trying to say is Thrust and Dirge needed more screen time

>>11690123
Who are (you) even talking to? Nigga jumping at shadows over here.

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Thoughts on 40th Anniversary Lio Convoy?

>>11691107
Lion face is a little small, and should have been removable/replaceable along with the mane pieces so you could recreate both looks in the anime properly, buuuut do I wish I'd gotten him instead of the Legacy one? yes. do I want the neon recolor? yeah but I don't "50 bucks before import fees" want it. especially with my income currently at zero, and my daughter and her husband becoming unemployed at the same time..

>>11691107
It's a goofy/mediocre figure in general, but then so was the original.

>>11691143
at least this one TRIES with the lion legs. if you squint, they are fine.
I can't believe how readily we just accepted "turn humanoid legs around back-a-wards and it's cat legs!" as kids, but we sure did.

>>11691116
>>11691143
I honestly think it's the best toy of him. The beast mode of the MP is a mess.

>>11691146
it just werks

>>11691168
yeahhh MP tried to eat its cake and have it too. ended up with peanutbutter smeared on a playing card.

>>11691019
Yeah, this is why I can't watch Beast Wars. The comedy is just so badly done and out of place.

>>11691107
Tolerances are worse than in the original legacy but looks way better.

>>11690938
/tfg/ seems to have zero interest in it but I think it's something that's going to rise in esteem once it comes out and gets in more peoples' hands.

>>11691235
I saw that asmr transformation video for MPG prime and he looks GOOD. The TFHypeguy twitter account made a post saying 'the voyager downscaled KO of this will go crazy' and I'm inclined to agree. This thing downscaled to ss86 prime height would be the perfect replacement for earthrise in my collection.

>>11691193
I like 75% of beast wars' humor, it only falls flat when they think they're in a cartoon for a second.
Yeah yeah we had rock'em sock'em robots as kids, we get the reference.. it's just not funny. Funny would be if they had their own miniature versions of themselves as rockemsockemrobots, and then Primal walks by and sees it like "That's not a good use of our limited fabricator supplies, and as your commander... I get to play the winner next."

>>11691243
>the voyager downscaled KO of this will go crazy
If we get one. I have it preordered, but I still might get a downsized KO in a different color. MP-10V has been my favorite Optimus figure for years.

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https://hobby.dengeki.com/news/2886401/
Overgear will be at an event in Akiba.

I really hope SS86/The Movie Cyclonus isn't another exclusive. Getting real tired of having to check the Target and Pulse sites like every week.

>>11690404
>P.S. yes, I cried like a little bitch when Optimus died while I'll never forget the shock of seeing characters geting killed or their lifeless bodies!!!FACT!!!
Were you there when they eventually brought Optimus back in the series finale?

>>11691367
eh? i thought they brought him back relatively shortly into season whatever of the show post-movie. On account of people liked him too much. I wanna say the Optimusless period of the show was like, 1.5 seasons, max. and like, i think it was actually maybe half a season. I did not watch G1, I just remember reading about this.

>>11691370
The Optimus-less period was even smaller than that, he came back in the season finale of Season 3, literally the season right after the movie. It’s wasn’t the series finale though, since Season 4 had 3 episodes, “The Rebirth parts I, II, and III”

funny how anime has characters die left and right yet Americans need the characters to be brought back and cannot cope with the idea of death as a permanent thing

>>11691383
Anime is guilty of that too, just not as often. It’s basically a joke in Dragon Ball that nobody ever stays dead, heck, even Takara eventually brought Optimus back in G1 with Return of Convoy

>>11691324
These are really cool

>>11691386
> It’s basically a joke in Dragon Ball that nobody ever stays dead

Yeah, except for poor Android 16...

But yeah, anime, especially the more kid-friendly shows, do bring characters back from the dead.

>>11691395
Dragonball is a gag series duh Americans just take is as serious

>>11691366
I'm only going to consider it if the yellowing problem is fixed. My Cyclonus is worse off than my Tigatron.

>>11690989
You are me from the future. Mine hasn’t shipped yet.

Pretty sure I know the listing you bought though because I was watching it too and was gutted when it sold. Lucky for me another Hellscream popped up a few days later at a similar price.

>>11690970
So Neo's events ran parallel to Beast Machines? Well, there's the sakura watching scene at the end of the series, heavily implying it took place after Primal's sacrifice to restore Cybertron.

And by the way, I still think of Big's new crew as Wreckers.

>>11691450
Primal is already absent in Neo but his fate isn’t widely known. Cybertron isn’t restored during Neo’s main story. No one reacts to Megatron’s final defeat because it’s still unfolding elsewhere. Only the final Sakura epilogue scene acknowledges Primal’s sacrifice.

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>>11691450
Neo can’t take place during BM because Unicron takes over Cybertron during Neo, so my best guess would be that it takes place before. Maybe that’s why Megatron had such an easy time taking over?

>>11691462
nta I always viewed it as separate continuities.

>>11691472
Canonically, that’s somewhat true, as II and Neo take place thousands of years after BM, but I like to headcanon and try to piece together a timeline if they were coexisting, since that’s what Takara's original intention was

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Sorry, forgot to include images

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>>11691490
It’s funny that they hadn’t even figured out Galvatron's colors at this point and had to show off a blank toy

>>11689979
Takatoku Toys made the original VF-1 toy. I don't think Bandai recovered the old molds from them, so making a Missing Link-style Jetfire is a lost cause.

Anyway, different topic. What other franchises do you wish to see in Collaborative? Honestly, my head is still filled with the idea of a collab with Masters of the Universe, probably on top of the first trailer for the live-action movie, though for the Collaborative, they have to feature the 80's Filmation cartoon, no take-backs because it's as G1 as G1 gets for a rivaling company.

>>11691168
I agree, but I don't think the design itself was all that great as a transforming toy to begin with. It's better than Big Convoy, though. Beast Wars produced worse.

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It's a Longshot.

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>>11691504
I know it’s a broken record, but we have the retro G1 toy mold for a reason. Besides him I think a Scooby Doo Mystery Machine would be cool. That or a Speed Racer Mach V

>>11691521
SUREly you must be joking

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>>11691483
>I like to headcanon and try to piece together a timeline if they were coexisting
You mean like the old IDW/FunPub Beast Wars?

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What if we made this long boy *longer*?

>>11691324
better than any of the slop hasbros shitting out

>>11691668
fucking finally, i hope they also put out a replacement chest for base optimus. besides the breakage issue it has an ugly gap between the chest windows.

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>>11691679
Here's your full list of bits

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And DNA's vision for Omega Prime

Liege and Nexus got moved UP

Leaks within days