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Very Female Astronauts Edition
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>ds9 audience
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>>217687823
I can’t wait to wake up tomorrow to headlines like “Star Trek introduces its first pangender disabled indigenous woman and She Is Everything”
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>>217687823
Duty Calls
https://youtu.be/b7Tb1qF6BQ8
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>>217687966
we did that already
by prevailing social standards bashir raped her
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>>217688022
Am I too cynical or whatever. But do people watch commercials like this and enjoy them? Because it is ostensibly trying to entertain. It is full of attempts at jokes. 'Will Shat', Star Trek parody, 'doody calls', 90+ year-old Bill Shatner do a pro-wrestler folding-table jump. These are all supposed to be funny. But, I can't imagine anyone anywhere even slightly smirking at them.
Ethan Phillips did it better anyway:
https://youtu.be/jKSAHPe_eBA?si=Kndehn8T6KQxY6iP
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i don't wanna look at that stuff. the things i have read here and there genuinely upset me.
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So one of you nerds tell me.....if a starship has 4 nacelles, that means it can go faster than a ship with 2 nacelles, right?
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>>217687823
the "Spaced Out" album is pretty trippy. Also sounds like they used the Star Trek orchestra to do the music
https://youtu.be/Nkz9mMauIAc?si=UWvTvcSxCU4olApI
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Run them in pairs, two are always shut down and on-standby. Used for more riskier missions. Quad-cores running all at the same time creates warp field instabilities and just won’t work unless the plot really, really needs it and your engineer can modulate alternating frequencies to make you go warp 12 for very, very brief periods to get out of a jam:
I am just basing this on complete head canon I just came up with on the spot
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The honest answer is that we don't know. The nacelles themselves don't actually move the ship, it just warps space around it (hence the name). The only thing I can glean from the TNG tech manual is that two (in that configuration) allow for the best adjustments on the X and Z axis and is the most efficient design. Presumably, this means four would help the Y axis?
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>>217688295
>the things i have read here and there genuinely upset me.
Tell me about it.
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The weird thing is, it's not Epstein saying that. It's the other guy, Nikolic, who is apparently a 'brilliant' doctor who has done world-leading research in stem cells, is linked to the World Economic Forum. If you read about him and didn't know about any of the context, you'd think the guy was nearly a Starfleet-level evolved human doing all of this great stuff.
Turns out he's working for Section 31.
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>>217688337
Here is my concept art of a shuttlepod with one nacelle. How fast would it go?
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doot doot
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>Look away, Gene...
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Yeah I am halfway into Season 2 and it feels like someone took a rusty old blender and combined "geriatric crew that wants a paycheck" with "hack modern Paramount writing".
I want to blow my shit smooth off, I cannot take it anymore. I went into this with an open mind and I feel like I am being submitted to cock and ball torture
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>>217688745
I couldn't make it through the first season.
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Stop Hating Star Trek!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_KgsMbQCp8
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>>217688980
Nooooooooooooo.....
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staw twek
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What was he wearing?
How tall was he?
What color- WERE HIS EYES?!
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>>217688980
The main defence against criticism of Starfleet Academy is that it's not FOR you. It's for the kids. But, the only Starfleet Academy fans you ever see are old.
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I appreciate how intelligent gowron is in this episode
When he first gets on the ship he starts chewing out picard for conducting no verification as to the validity of kahless' existence and explains how such a thing would rock the foundation of the empire, and how the idea is unkillable
https://youtu.be/jlr1wANEbag
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>>217689199
Hey senpai, did you watch the latest SFA on Parry+ last night? Nahla Ake is lit!
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I'm subbed to her, schizos
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>>217687823
Can you imagine how traumatizing it mustve been for the kids living on this? Alien takeovers, spooky invisible forces, random disappearances, lockdowns and security breaches, space battles, explosions, people tossed around inside at random, etc.
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>>217689455
assuming something terrible happens in every single episode, that's still only like 24 times a year, which is less than 2 times a month, and even then something crazy happening like that isn't a guarantee. there's plenty of comfy and cozy episodes that dont involve the ship imploding
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>We're heading into the Gamma Quadrant to look for survivors, but we're going to make a point of off-loading all of the civilians and children this one time, just in case...
Riker didn't even give them a chance to make for the escape pods before trying to ram the cube in Best of Both Worlds.
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I dont know, man. If only one of those bad things happened even once a year it would be pretty traumatic imo.
Just imagine if you were a little kid playing in your room, the ship hits some "space anomaly" or is shot, ZERO warning and youre launched into a wall breaking a few bones while loud alarms start going off. That would fuck you up mentally going forward.
Makes me think of how one of our navy's submarines hit a sea mount without warning a while back (no deaths but several injuries) and it apparently traumatized the shit out of a bunch of sailors.
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>Klingons start banging their mugs of blood wine about to sing a song
>*boom boom boom*
We are the house of Kaang
You must respect our pro-nouns
If you misgender it will be met with battle
Kah'less was a bigot nazi
All are welcome in new Stova-kor
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It’s funny how often Picard gives a lecture to a bad guy on deciding people’s life or death for them immediately following or preceding an episode where he tries to self-destruct the enterprise without asking anyone to prevent it from being captured.
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I just watched Inner Light with my dad
He watched TOS as a kid but had never seen an episode of TNG
He liked it! I told him about Measure of a Man, we might watch that one tomorrow.
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>>217689884
>it would be pretty traumatic imo.
people back then weren't professional victims who made having ptsd over going to the grocery store their entirely personality, they were capable of getting over this stuff healthily
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The epstein shit I've read tonight has legitimately injured my soul.
I've been on the internet a long, long time and I can shrug off most things but some of this shit is too much even for me.
Recommend me an episode to help put my soul back together, /trek/. I need my faith in humanity to be restored right now, desperately, and Star Trek is one of the best things for that.
Help me, please.
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>>217688493
Here is a Star Trek episode plot (I will finish writing the script after Paramount buy the rights):
>A cabal of Ferengis. Working in conjunction with S31 agents
>Own a private moon orbiting Risa
>Elites from all over the quadrant gather on this moon for debauched parties
>Orion slave girls brutalised for their entertainment
>hidden holo-cameras capture their participation
>these elites go back home with a hangover. return to the office monday morning. Back to his job as Federation senator
>He gets a tap on the shoulder while standing at the water cooler. Its a smirking man. A S31 agent. The man shows the senator a PADD and plays a video
>blackmailed. The senator now votes the way he is told to and does as ordered
>this happens 100 different times
>The whole Federation is compromised. Corrupted
>Until a principled Starfleet captain uncovers the plot. Phasers all the bad guys into ash and saves the day
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>>217690685
People don’t have that much sex in the future
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>>217690645
He tries to ram it at the very end when they're in orbit over Earth, right before Data saves the day. Truly they were the last thing between the Borg and billions of people so it wasn't that absurd of a call.
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it was in the script
all that trivia about "X actor said Y and it was pure improv, genius!" is bullshit goyslop for cattle to slurp up
reddit was still sucking elon's dick about electric cars and mars missions when STD first aired
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJHXI0J3txE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln67ea504Cg
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>>217691118
Been meaning to get around to it someday, my grandpa loves Trek and he’s got good taste, and Mike Stoklasa has shilled it to me for long enough. As for here, well, I’ve seen the general roll by before.
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>>217691153
based, you have lots to look forward to before it concludesin 2005
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>>217691079
Happy to hear it bro.
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>Attention Bajoran workers
>My wife left me
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>Attention Bajoran allies
>I am now fucking Gul Dukat's wife.
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you told me it was flopping /trek/
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>>217692406
>mfw my daughter's boyfriend ejaculated on her face and then called the gay Klingon a "fucking faggot"
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>>217692406
>UK
it is
joking aside, we don't have the actual numbers, and the streaming service could be lying and simply pushing the show up there as an advertisement because a new episode came out regardless of how many are actually watching it
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>>217687830
What would be worse;
>this is mod/jannie spam
>this is 4chan pass spam
>this is bot spam
>alt coordinated spam
Whatever it is, it’s not organic, and therefore it’s bad
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>>217689912
>jay-den
Jay-den.
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>>217693124
shuttlepods were never shown going to warp until STD (which I'm assuming is for a very good reason and is yet another thing they fucked up), which I'm assuming is why they don't have deflectors - you don't need one if you aren't traveling FTL and grains of sand aren't impacting your hull at superluminal speeds causing nuclear explosions that tear the ship apart
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>>217693140
it's a ritual post by an anon who loves shran, this has been shown multiple times
if you want to actually see inorganic spam, wait until that shill for ACK shows up and starts spamming corpo jargon and copypasting editorials on how ACK is profound and breaking le barriers
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zozzle
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Post favorite side characters. I always enjoyed Weyoun.
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>>217694144
There are a lot of people here who don't conform to what is commonly referred to as "4chan group think". You find their posts mostly in the replies, while the OPs are mostly the same viewpoints over and over.
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Is there a more beautiful Trek music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMHx7fiLEow
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Saturdays are for the VOYBOYS!
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>Rlm talking about ds9
>mention how radically different the tone and world is compared to older trek
>fail to mention this is because they plagerized babylon 5 so badly they got sued (it was super scummy)
>no one in comment section mentioning it either
Do people just honrstly not know about this super well known thing or are people just so committed to dickriding ds9 they ignore it?
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Gay Klingons are canon.
The Klingon Empire is heavily inspired by ancient Sparta and feudal Japan- both societies in which pederasty historically existed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakash%C5%AB
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>>217694537
It all could have been fixed so easily with a single line:
“Klingons have different races. Different races look somewhat different.”
That’s it.
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>>217689455
Imagine how traumatized Archer's fucking dog must have been. Data's cat. It should be considered animal cruelty. They just keep those fuckers locked alone in one room all day and that room can suddenly violently shake or have some fucking spatial anomaly pop up in it or some shit. Fucking heartless starfleet bastards.
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>>217692406
In the U.S. it’s still getting beat by 30 year old sitcoms.
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>>217694823
So if Paramount + is so bad, why even subscribe?
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>>217694924
>harmon mute
forbidden Fleshlight
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appreciate it
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>>217695138
>shit reveal for the sake of it
I really like the Breen and the Borg, but these are clear examples of less is more. The Breen were more effective when they were masked and mysterious, similar to the Quarians from Mass Effect or the Mandalorians. Revealing their faces was a mistake that reduced their mystique. The Borg were far more terrifying when they felt eldritch and impersonal. The Collectors and the Zerg show how revealing too much can ruin an assimilating race, while the Tyranids and the Combine remain more mysterious and are better liked because of it.
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>>217695275
They wanted to cast a French actor for Picard but forgot to make the character British when they cast Patrick Stewart. I think they tried to handwave it away by saying in the 24th Century all European countries had blended together.
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all those years on Voyager, and nobody ever thought to ask Seven who Species 1 was?
How does the Borg begin?
I suppose any explanation would hamper how enigmatic they are so they thought to leave it.
But given you have a Borg encyclopedia at your disposal you'd have thought such information would be readily available by now.
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>>217695361
This also implies they ran into the Ferengi a long time before they encountered the vulcans and humans. Also ~2000 species between vulcan and humans.. where the vulcans keeping the borg a secret for the federation?
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tbf the Vulcans achieved warp in the early 20th century as I recall
So they had about a 200 year headstart
Nevertheless there are only 16 light years between Earth and Vulcan and it's not like the Borg have any sort of noble prime directive.
On the other hand as Seven said about the Kazon, any species with inferior technology isn't assimilated.
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It all can easily be fixed with one line:
“Captain Picard wasn’t born on Earth; it’s the 24th century, and humanity is spread across many colonies.””
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Star Trek: First Contact is one of the laziest and dumbest movies ever.
The Borg simply rush to Earth, ignoring the fact that the United Federation of Planets consists of over 150 species, many of which presumably have multiple colonies.
It also ignores that the Federation was already heavily militarized due to the events of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
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>>217695348
Space communism only works when everyone speaks the same language and shares the same values. You can’t flood one society with members of totally different cultures and expect everyone to live in harmony.
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There are no rules that they have to accurately display whats popular. also because paramount plus has jack shit for viewers its likely a couple hundred people watching it can boost it for the day. that being said i wouldnt be surprised if its more popular than people think
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>>217696065
Best I can do is a smelly Greek whore
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>>217696076
ds9 had some interesting hints but didn't elaborate for instance we knew the suits regulated body temperature, at the time people speculated their home plant was super hot or super cold like some disaster happened, then weyoun just casually comments that their home planet is actually quite pleasant so why the fuck do they wear the suits? its better not knowing just little hints like that are perfect leave you wondering what the fuck is up with these guys
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>>217696235
Reveals are always disappointing
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How do I tell if the writers and producers are bottle episoding me?
Are holodeck episodes bottles?
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>>217696721
the idea of that many Weyoun deaths makes me sad
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>>217696830
maybe you should talk to worf about it
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>>217696371
I honestly can’t think of any good reveals. Most of the reveals in Lost were disappointing. The forest people in Game of Thrones were also disappointing. The same goes for Halo and Mass Effect, not just the Quarian faces, but the lore behind the Reapers(rogue AI lol) too.
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>Most of the reveals in Lost were disappointing
well thats bullshit, the reveal that linus killed darma, the reveal that sawyer is really the name of the guy that caused his parents deaths, the reveal that mr eko is actually a murderous warlord, the reveal that Ethan is an other, and of courseits not pennys boatto name a few
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Oh no no no no~
What is happening, NuTrek bros?
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>>217697092
of course it does but what an interesting character to have as an MC, smart capable kind, but also devoted to gods he knows are in the wrong, its fascinating, I honestly can't think of any other character in any other story like him.
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tbf he did try and warn the founder that trying to suborn odo was a mistake, she didn't listen, seriously if the founders had just let him cook he would've wrapped all that up no problem, also remember if the female hadn't linked with odo then the sec 31 plan would've never worked
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>>217697069
same trend as every shit show. gets most of their viewers at the start, then people fall off of it for other things or wait till everything is out to watch it at once. most of the time people just dont watch it at all.
Even in Trek circles episodes dont get talked about alot, this one had a fair bit of controversy since they erased the klingons but 1k comments its insanely low for a big show that cost millions per episode
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The Bajoran uniforms are the most divisive uniforms in all of sci-fi, at least in my mind. I can't decide wether I like them or hate them, sometimes I think they look cool in a weird alien sort of way, and other times I just find them garish, impractical, and super uncomfortable looking.
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>>217694851
>they're all just faking bro it was just a prank
you sound just like kathleen kennedy. "it's just a couple of people who hate disney star wars. they're not relevant at all. that's why I bring them up in every interview and why we make a point to trash them on every red carpet interview and why we make our actors record videos attacking them and we record diss tracks against them and they're the reason rian johnson hasn't directed any more movies for us." fucking dumb motherfucker.
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TNG newfag blostposting with another episode. I just finished 'The Defector' and I loved it. It was a good follow up to 'The Enemy' which I watched yesterday and enjoyed just as much. The Romulans being sneaky shits are great but I enjoyed the suspense of is the admiral a spy, giving fake information? Or is he actually defecting? The reveal where he's doing what he thinks is for the best for his family, knowing he will never see them again, was a nice touch but then finding out it was all built upon a lie and he doomed himself for nothing was sad.
I enjoyed seeing Tamalok again as a dickhead Romulan who loves to irrate Picard and they have a good honourable foes relationship, even if the Romulan is a duplicitous shitbag. Sad that the defecting Romulan killed himself but I found Picard's final words poignant about how the Admirals' family may not read his letter now, but hoepfully one day they will. All in all, one of my favourite episodes of TNG along with 'The Enemy' and 'The Measure of a man'
Also the Klingon ships coming out of nowhere felt a bit random. I may have missed that as well as some context on why the Klingons and Romulans hate each other but it seems the Romulans are an unpleasant people anyway so maybe that's why.
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I skipped a few episodes from those seasons as a lot were just bad and I didn’t want to put myself off the rest of the show. From those early seasons the episodes I liked were
> ‘A matter of honor’
as I enjoyed Riker handling the Klingon hazing and being buddies with them by the end
>A measure of man
self explanatory
>elementary dear data’
A fun silly Data episode
>Q Who
For the Borg introduction
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>>217697361
thats a great episode
you're in the middle of the gems right now, the eps that hit the sweet spot between science fiction and real world moral questions
we're watching vicariously through you fren, keep enjoying
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>>217697671
To decon you go ensign, until we can get rid of that HIV you picked up!
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>>217697578
i do, thats what actual trek discussion looks like
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ignore the /trek/ schizos, we have many
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>>217697643
that is a nice shirt
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>>217698690
>79 million households subscribe to Paramount+
>that means ALL of them watch Kurtzman's shitty NuTrek
Flawless logic.
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>start rewatch of ENT
>oozes with unbelievable optimism for space travel
its so fun, my only big gripe with it is crewman daniels and hissilly ass time travel plot, trek has never done good time travel (except for the DS9 tribble special)
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Why do nerds pretend trek is some kind of high culture work of art? Remove all these smoking hot bitches dax1, dax2, 7of9 and it turns to shit.
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Decided to start rewatching Discovery so I could understand the context of Starfleet Academy. I forgot that the first episode establishes that a "Vulcan Hello" means shooting at the other guy first so that you establish dominance in your subsequent conversation, even if you're vastly outgunned and your commanding officer is too stupid to understand what a Vulcan Hello is.
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Also anyone noticed Wheyoun says "kettrecel hwyte"?
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I feel like they never knew what to do with the Romulans in any iteration of Star Trek except for Nemesis and Picard. In TOS they show up and are scary for one episode and interesting for a second one, but they're never developed to the same level as the Klingons and had very little impact on the show. They're just the OTHER authoritarian enemy.
Then in TNG they show up in S1 to be spooky and dress up like couches. They show up as the "big bad" of the quadrant because the Klingons aren't anymore, but despite all the characterization around them they only do one notable thing and that's Unification's attempted invasion of Vulcan. That was, like, 4 or 5 Klingon episodes in TOS. Other than that, they do some cloak-and-dagger stuff but you don't really get much of a window into why their society is so orderly and why the Tal Shiar is everywhere and what drives their militarism after the TOS movies depicted them as just another member of the Khitomer Accords, the China-France to the USSR and USA of the Klingons and Federation.
Then DS9 just doesn't do anything with them despite introducing a Romulan who joins the Defiant to watch over the cloaking device. None None of the cast and writer interviews ever seems to indicate they were going to have a Romulan join the DS9 cast despite them going to Michael Dorn and pulling in Worf. DS9 as a whole just wastes the Romulans because you find out nothing new about them, not even when they go to Romulus for that one episode. TNG was introducing new stuff about the Klingons every season.
ENT of course introduced Romulans early in the show and it was finally something different, while being totally the same. They were isolationist territorialists who wouldn't fly off the handle like the Klingons when you trespass on their planet, but then S3 makes them Mengele in space with mastery of holograms.
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>Then in TNG they show up in S1 to be spooky and dress up like couches. They show up as the "big bad" of the quadrant because the Klingons aren't anymore, but despite all the characterization around them they only do one notable thing and that's Unification's attempted invasion of Vulcan.
They also back Duras and try to take control of the Klingon Empire during a civil war. That's a pretty major fucking thing.
I agree they could've done more with them but that would've required serialization to a greater degree than TNG was willing to do.
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At least in Nemesis and Picard you get in-depth looks at what the Romulans could be: Slavers of lesser species, militarists with a code of conduct, covert religious cultists who use their natural shiftiness to propagate their beliefs to take power. It's interesting, it's different, it's something that, while not as developed as the Klingons, gives them more flavor than
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And finally Discovery knew what to do with them by making them unite with and restore emotional balance to the Ni'Varan people.
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>At least in Nemesis and Picard you get in-depth looks at what the Romulans could be
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>At least in Nemesis and Picard
Stopped reading there.
This thread is not for you.
Begone, tranny.
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That seemed more like Selar's personal operation the same way the drone ship was Valdore's and the attacks on the Neutral Zone by a single ship was the Praetor's or the Tal Shiar joining Tain's plan to attack the Founders. Whereas Unification seemed like a real ploy from multiple levels of the Romulan government in the same way the Romulans joining the Dominion War and not just a faction.
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The romulans never get more fleshed out despite being established and a very interesting group of aliens, they really don't lean into the vulkan/romulan relationship as much as they should
And then in ds9 the cardassians became the new militant empire and got all the qualities of the romulans but with much more screentime
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Thought of that like right after posting
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not necessarily, adding romulan infiltrators in vulkan government (which theres precedent for) would make for a lot of tension
they also did this in DS9 though with the shapeshifters, but romulans imitating vulcans is a lot more grounded than "anyone could be a founder lol"
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Are there any Star Trek books worth reading?
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cute
I'm glad gene snuck his wife onto the 60's series and beyond,
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you guys will simp for anything
even 60s majel was mid as hell
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it is strange to think that todays studios are incapable of producing a show with the production quality of TNG. even if they could figure out how to do the makeup and sets and lighting and sfx, it would cost 50 million per episode
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Why do they always make the same stupid arguments?
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this is literal grade school writing wtf
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sex with Gorn females