>>7866683
HUMILIATION RITUAL

>the beg threads survival literally hinges on my phones battery, which started ballooning and expanding recently, not completely dying until my new one arrives because its my internet connection
lol, lmao even

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>>7866295
Goddammit Deer, you know how to push my buttons, it's not fair... look what I had to do in a rush like a fucking maniac..lol
I hope you like it

>>7866260
A.. Appealchad is this y..you? How much more awesome can you be???
>>7866296
Nice figure!
>>7866514
I really like the girl's face in the middle
>>7866505
I want a megaman game with this design
>>7866454
Beautiful!!!
>>7866352
Based Rally Vincent enjoyer
>>7866256
FUCKING COOL!
>>7866691
I love your sketches!

>>7866690
At least half of that collage is int.
>>7866693
We're almost free from this torment...

>>7866658
post post post friend,! I'm trying to tackle it again with a fox for brownanon
>>7866694
>chastity
you're brainworming me just as much, I fucking love female chastity in porn!
poor woman, being so restricted, tempting men but never being able to give in! i missed your work..

I cant "draw" without references to steal from. I am garbage

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>>7866699
noticed something I didn't like aaa

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>>7866699
--wip--
>>7866694
a unexpected short comic in the old vertical style - how many things do you have in parallel in the works?
(hot, btw, as always)

>>7866713
looks really great, mossa esque!

>reply to free draw requests in reddit for a week
>50 dollars in tips,
>requests for more draw for pay
I realize now how truly foolish I was in thinking I ever want to draw for money, selling things is cringe

>>7866715
I wish.
Mossa is on a completely different level, so far ahead a comparison is futile.
Appreciate it, tho.

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>>7866720
you're getting there, I agree mossa is amazing

>>7866723
God, I want to suck on this tits.
Life is so cruel.

>>7866725
*those
Time for bed, indeed!

>>7866694
Thank you . How long does it take to churn these out? You can probably draw the female figure with your eyes closed by now

What do you do if you have trouble knowing where lines go

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>>7866683
Got this done today. Had only the scene drawn as boxes but got to add details. I made so much progress today it’s wild

>>7866683
>posemy.art
This site looks really good. The idea of using 3D models to dynamically move both the character and the view/perspective seems insanely useful.
However, I'm confused on whether the site is free or not. The home page says
>Free, Online, Simple, Easy, Fast
But the "pricing" section says $15 monthly, $100 lifetime, $150 yearly.
So is it free or not? If it's not, where can I get this stuff for free?
Thanks.

>>7866737
Looks really good.
I just started learning drawing a couple of days ago, but if you want my critique, I think the first bed looks kind of squished, as if it were rotated to the right. I think it should look longer and the upper portion (where the pillows are) should look shorter because it's farther away from the center where the POV is. I don't know if I explained myself well.
I was having the same thought of my own practice box drawings. It's something I'll try to fix.

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>>7866744
Thanks for the kind words and advice. You’re right. Here’s the ref. I def made the first bed a bit shorter without noticing. I see what you’re saying with the pillows bc they are shorter in the ref as well

Could somebody tell if they themselves have appeal or do they need the opinions of others to know? I think i like my own stuff but for all I know my own tastes could be skewed.

>>7866747
You're welcome! Glad I could help.

>>7866749
I mean you yourself are biased so other’s opinions are important. I didn’t see my work as beautiful until others pointed it. I think you should have your own confidence and image but it is important to know how your work is perceived

>>7866749
I would say some aspects of beauty are subjective, but a lot of beauty is objective. Most great artists will eventually converge and reach a point where they create the same or very similar art which is objectively beautiful.

BWEEEEEEEEEHHH

i'll never be in the faggot OP.
fuck you guys.

anyways, how can I make an easily convincing but flawed background /environment for my character with a refernce already provided? perspective and vanishing points are hard

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>>7866725
That’s a good compliment haha

>>7866769
Fire

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>>7866753
>>7866754
thank you, i'm pretty afraid of becoming a chris chan tier autist that is unable to see the glaring flaws/lack of appeal in their own work. Sometimes I wish I could see the world through the eyes of others and in a sense that isn't even limited to art, i'm just curious what people find beautiful and focus on in their day to day life that I wouldn't give the time of day.
>>7866737
I really like this, perspective stuff seems so alien to me and kicks my ass whenever I try it. But i'm always ready to give it another go when i see stuff like this

>>7866773
Honestly anon just go ahead and jump into it if you can. Your art journey is only gonna be harder down the line the more you ignore perspective.

>>7866773
Wanted to add, you definitely have appeal. Your work is just too uniform in some places. Like putting two stars to the left and right of the bigger ones, both placed similarly. Clothing buttons all look the same. Similar clothing folds throughout. Try to learn how to make your work look more random and dynamic by studying from life and being more loose when you draw.

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Tonight's doodle

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i have not drawn anatomy properly in so long i feel like i forgot how to do it

I wish I could draw
>>7866784
Cool design, the mouths are a cool idea

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gachaslop

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>>7866683
My progress

Man, how I wish I weren't so lazy. I could do so much more

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>>7866683

deck 1 (bridge) is done. i defined the interior space for deck 2 (officer quarters). i'm done for today.

>trying to draw a realistic eye at a 3/4 angle on a tilted head
>can't get it to look right no matter what, can't identify what the problem is
What the fuck do I do? I've taken multiple breaks, flipped the canvas multiple times, zoomed in and out a bunch and I just don't see it.

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>>7866804
Have you tried drawing something like this?

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I guess I got her head tilt slightly wrong, or I placed her left eye too high, I can't quite tell which. In any case is practicing from reference like this an ideal path to improving? No reference just looks like a mess but this takes me so many revisions with an eraser that I worry I won't actually be training my eye. Been drawing a week or so

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>>7866807
Man, I guess I should. This is so boring. Learning is dreadful.
I wish I could just put the ideas that I visualize in my head on a canvas and be done with it.

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>>7866809
I also struggle with head tilt

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>>7866814
Yea I mean when something is really breaking your brain apart try a different approach, even if it’s a bit extreme. You’d be surprised about how much you’ll learn about the eye from drawing from stuff like that. It’s what helped me understand the eye in and out. Here’s another helpful ref

>>7866683
Drawing feet is so much more hard than drawing hands it's unreal, don't know why they don't get as memed.

>>7866818
most feet look a bit weird anyway. only footfags care.

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>>7866823
Thing is I'm a footfag myself so I feel like a disgrace.

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THREAD CHALLENGE
This angle is one of the most used, but it's hard to make the butt area to look as good as the ref, what's the secret to make the ass look "3D"?

>>7866826
left foot angle is impossible
and right foot is too flat, it needs to be angled back little
do you have a reference?

>>7866829
>>7866818
HUEAHUHUAUHA

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>>7866829
Sure, I love challenges.

>>7866830
No, I was drawing from imagination. I'm starting to think I will have to get ref from porn but I don't really like that idea.

>>7866829
coomer thread

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sdfwer3r refsafwerwgs sdfdsgsdg

>Oridays just dropped a $300 "accelerator" course
>avoids promising that you'll draw well by the end, just that you'll "accelerate" progress
>30 day guarantee requires you do /all/ the course work and provide a "reason"
I'm tempted to do this but only if I can actually do all the work and still get a refund at the end
I feel like I'm just gonna get scammed out of 300, but if I also end up genuinely practicing for 30 days won't it have been worth it? I haven't drawn in like 2 months

>>7866854
anon just draw
losing 300 dollars isn't going to make you draw

>>7866860
but I won't lose the 300 if I just draw the lessons within 30 days. I can just refund if I do it all

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>>7866845
why is this so hard? am I getting closer?

>>7866867
Do construction.

>>7866866
They'll deny it lol

>>7866869
>>Do construction.
i wanted to specifically focus on the panty lines and textures. i can't construct with this. I'm bad, sorry.

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>>7866871
You need to know what's behind these panties to know where to put the lines.
Construct it anyway.

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>>7866814
Tilted heads are the work of the devil. At this point i'm just trying to bruteforce it by memorizing the lines because some of the constructions make no sense. I'm using a reference and the constructions comes out all weird regardless. I think EO58 builds them with squares instead of going straight for the cranium.

>realistic eye

Same as a stylized eye, you are giving up.

>>7866799
Good work

>>7866749
If you make things that you think look cool you can never go wrong. Your taste will refine as you create and consume the creations of masterful work. You just have to be honest with yourself about if something looks good to you or not and then try to get it to as close to what you think looks good as possible. It's how you develop style, soul, etc because it's something you made that only you can create. Your experience of the world has given you the ability to create things only you can.

>>7866784
I'd smash that loli

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Good luck figuring that one out l to the fuckin mao , no wonder people draw using their imagination. Thank god for EO58, unironically, without him i would've given up a bajillion years ago. It's just a sea of troons, loons, left brained freaks.

I oppose the idea of /beg/ and /int/ generals, bc it's gatekeeping artists mentally to mingle with other artists from all skill lvl. But this is by far the most active thread, so I guess it makes some people feel more at ease to post? idk

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>>7866918
Not a single /int/ in the entire board

>>7866918
yeah I dont want to interact with better people, and they not with me.

>>7866925
Even the most /beg/ art is commercializable if they know how to sell it.
/prebeg/ art is the most soulful art btw

>>7866925
>>7866926
looser mindset. it's not unlike twitter fags love for identity categorisation. the old cg and sijun forums were mixed with artists ranging from total beginners to pros. beginners could learn a lot from pros and pros learned a lot by teaching.
at worst you could just ignore bad drawings in a thread, at best you could give them genuine advice.

>>7866930
there are no good artists in this shithole, the ones that sort of do passable drawings are left brained retards, they don't construct, they've been copying the same poses/faces/characters for decades i'm afraid they can't teach you anything...other than never giving up... eww.

>>7866931
if everyone is bad, as you say, why then do we need a /beg/ & /int/ thread? what you're saying doesn't make any sense.

>>7866933
To help and support each other. I'm here to humble everyone that's a high /beg/ garbage poster, No mercy for the retards.

>>7866925
this is wrong
beg -> someone who dislikes his own art and cant really draw what he wanted
int -> someone who is okay with his own art and can draw what he wanted but still sees basic mistakes in his own work
adv -> no more basic mistakes grinds that artistic expression stone to a shiny polish only makes only marginal improvements
pro -> same as adv but a soulless wagie

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which one gets the point across better?

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SDKOPVWKJVIOJEOFJEOFHEFUIUIBVIHBVIB

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>>7866937
>me, me , me , me , me ,me

ok retard lmao , learning art is not subjective

>>7866913
MB is that you?

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>>7866845
>>7866867
Learn how to do construction. It's not that hard after a while. Even my shit-ass attempt took me 5 minutes to do. Go back to basics before attempting this coomer shit, anon.

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>>7866829
i need a better way to do the hair

>>7866945
I jumped to the bottom of the thread and thought this was legit the grossest vagina I've ever seen drawn until I jumped up to the reference

>>7866950
Yeah, it's a legit horrible ref, but I did it to spite the other anon's attempt. I don't get the appeal neither, trust me.

>>7866938
>>7866794
Cute boys

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how do i do hands?

>>7866970
Daybidoh?

Totemo sugoi desu!

>>7866974
pains me to say hands are as bad as everything else in the pic

>>7866983
okay like what? the rest is still wip but im extra stuck on the hands

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>>7866985

>>7866986
oh yeah im going polish over everything later. but the anatomy and face look fine? thats literally the only thing i'm worried about.

>>7866987
youre missing the point so fucking hard
>im going polish over everything later
Youre polishing too hard and breaking everything down too much thats the issue
>but the anatomy and face look fine
rendering dictates depth which dictates anatomy, if your rendering is fucked everything is always gonna look fucked

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>>7866949
more studies

>>7866990
shit im not that good yet. also i dont find the dynamic of simpler=better to be very intuitive. as in both drawings in >>7866986
each have their appeal.

>>7866974
Are you familiar with the term symbol drawing? I think the eyes and eyebrows look like that.
To combat this, redo the eyes with the brush you used to colour and render everything (in doing so painting over lines from the drawing stage).
Also it looks like one boob is missing.
Aside from that pretty good. I like the hair. Do you want an edit?

>>7866938
she looks better in the left. It's more natural

>>7866990
>>7866993
also, i dont want to be a massive fucking cunt about this but the war on the right drawing is completely block in amongst many other features with the same 'stylization' ffs.

>>7866998
yeah i feel like i put too much effort and over did them. if you look closely the other boob is 'sort of' there but i probably did it wrong. and need to make it more curvy with consistent colors/lighting. an edit would much appreciated.
>>7867000
i meant ear not war

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i was too lazy to finish that old challenge
then i was too lazy to post wip

>>7866693
Thank you for your service

>>7866986
Right one looks a bit bland, alsmost like an Asaro head. Doesnt need to be as detailed as the left one, but it could do with some more detail in the facial features and less blocky surfaces. Except if that's what you're aiming for ofc

Guess which piece won the competition
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UBT3yBWXmooXI8WYQDjZf4aZqt7L0pUw

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I did this today!!

>>7867016
Am I future Moebius?

Feels like the best path for /beg/s is to force them to master form through line work alone. Lots of beginners seem to be happy with just "lines on paper" and not "line work," which would solve everything on down the line. Solution? Idk man get a pen and force yourself to understand form expressed by line while keeping perspective in tact. Use that to learn anatomy so that you end up with a black and white figure that looks good with nothing else on it, then render.

>>7866986
>Chad to Asian pipeline.

>>7866776
man i didn't notice any of these and now that I do i really can't look at it the same, thank you for opening my eyes anon
>Try to learn how to make your work look more random and dynamic by studying from life and being more loose when you draw.
yeah I tend to draw the same thing over and over as a bad habit, same pose same types of clothes etc. I think i'll try and really change things up next time.
>>7866775
I gotchu anon, next time you see me (well next next time since i'll probably be posting a finished wip first) you'll be seeing nothing but cubes
>>7866839
sick tats, sick design

>>7867020
>Solution? Idk man get a pen and force yourself to understand form expressed by line while keeping perspective in tact. Use that to learn anatomy so that you end up with a black and white figure that looks good with nothing else on it, then render.
So, Dynamic Drawing? I'm not sure if I get your point.

>>7867048
*Dynamic Sketching

>>7867048
Basically, yeah. I wouldn't put that name on it because it bounds it specifically to the Peter Han style, which is fine because his still is great, but if we want it to be transferrable to people it might be better described as getting good at draughtsmanship generally. The bar wouldn't even be Peter Han, it would be someone like Alex Toth, who deliberately strove to express form through line with as little work as possible.

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Another study

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>>7867057
Original

>>7867058
Background is really close to skin color so it makes that area around her neck look weird, where the pigtails part and you can see through to the background color

>>7867020
Pyw

>>7867066
Nah. I've been here long enough to know when hit dogs are hollering.

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>>7866913
fellow 58 enjoyer
>>7866976
nani

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>>7867001
I made a quick edit. Hope this is useful somehow.
I changed the eyes, did some rendering in the face and added more contrast.
Rendering is fun. I hope you have a great time finishing the piece!

People laugh at me

>>7866949
Dayum james got thick as hell after silent hill 2

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Brush pens are fun

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Is this le good or le bad?

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>>7867128
Here is what i was copying

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More heads. I'll try to keep it up until the end of the month atleast, but the canvas is filling fast

>>7867128
It is le good. I prefer your choice of colors over the original

>>7866945
that would take me an hour
nice work. ill study construction, but i wont abandon my desire for panty shots because then whats the point of drawing?

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Some SW doodles from memory

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>>7867151
Fellow star wars bro

>>7867151
>slave leia pic noticeably more refined than everything else
So how many times have you jerked off to that scene to commit it to memory?

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>want to draw people on cool poses
>understand nothing hampton is explaning in book or course

Should I just copy his stuff until I get it? I also feel like I'm missing somehing basic, I'm trying to do han's dynamic sketching but I'm not really sure what to do with what he's teaching or how to apply it.

Maybe someone had similar problems?

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drawing a mech from ref, the amount of detail is fucking me

sigh
how cna i learn construction fast? and what guide master to use? :(

>>7867156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgDYlmRwXF8

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>>7866683
Today’s morpho studies
>>7867161
Anon, like the other anon said, you need to do stuff that’s more ambitious.why don’t you start a piece or something? Or draw a full, clothed body? Or do some life drawings? Do something different and try leaving your comfort zone.

>>7867159
anyone please help

>>7867159
Learn perspective and how to draw basic rotating shapes.

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>>7867160
i think this has limited applicability when it comes to mechanical/ mecha drawings (other than the generic advice "the silhouettes are important", which is useful). see the ref, it also has an insane amount of detail

>>7867174
thanks a lot

>>7867177
the thanks was meant for
>>7867173

>>7867174
AHHH
I'VE BEEN DOING THAT SHIT NIGGAAAAA

For days and hours.

>>7867182
Try for months and years. It's not easily mastered in a few weeks.

>>7867041
If I were given a challenge to draw the cringiest outfit I could possibly imagine I seriously don't think I could come close to this.

>>7867185
>It's not easily mastered in a few weeks.
Senseifag and Nihu say otherwise.

>>7867041
Looks real nice! I think that the colors are cool.

>>7867202
Oh god not again, just draw and shut up, i've been reading the same shit everyday for a whole year

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>>7866694
>chasticy
yummy yummie
>>7866251
thankies peril :3
i love the pose you used for this one :D
>>7866454
Sick
>>7866597
amazing
>>7866925
pyw :3

>>7867020
I took a dynamic sketching course but it begins to feel like busywork at some point
idk but I've got severe artblock now. even just drawing a box feels painful. too much ego.

I'm considering this >>7866854 >>7866866
never really drawn anime but I've always wanted to

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anyone got guides on coloring short hair?
>>7867128
nice job looks great

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>She is waiting for her turn at the shooting range

>>7867243
she is flagging everyone else at the range is what she is doing, point that thing in a safe direction!

>>7867214
It isnt a lie.

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finished for now, might colorblock later

>>7867250
Oh no. Her gun is still unloaded and she doesn't have her finger at the trigger. She won't point it at anyone

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Tinkered around with her design some more. I think this project turned me into a furfag

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>>7866683
Supposed to be William Burroughs. I fucked it up midway

>>7867006
The laziness you experienced shows in your work. Be more kind to yourself next time and give it your best. It will show and you will be surprised.

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sometimes you can just draw some other times you just fucking cant

>>7867266
you aced the eyes. Good job

>>7867177
>filename
Servus, guten Abend, anon

>>7867255
I feel like your wobbly lines are weakening all of your forms. Are you making your lines look like that intentionally?

>>7867278
Anderer anon. Österreicher oder Bayrer?

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>>7866683
Finally starting to getter better figures
Despite it still looking wonky as hell

>>7867281
Württemberg lol

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Sketch, any mistakes or general crits?

>>7867295
let me guess, that shota is actually a 28 year old man

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back to copy/trace studies, fun times are over
>>7867006
this looks cool
>>7866788
dynamic
>>7866773
there's a lot to appeal, but one of the key criteria I have for myself is consistency. your drawing has inconsistent geometry/perspective, so it's not particularly appealing to me personally, but there's something there

>>7867308
this is so fucking good

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Thoughts? Am i high /int/ yet?

>>7867308
I love you appealchad.

>>7867308
You’re so good, I can’t believe you had the nerve to think that you can’t add to the drawpile. Your work would be welcome there

ok so i have to draw the women nigro not the nigro male to get attention

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>>7866683
Today’s anatomy studies mixing memory/reference

>>7867322
Drawing women gets more attention than drawing males in general lol

>>7867319
you should take a moment to actually look at the kind of art people post in drawpile threads. they're always all FUN, unbelievably good
>>7861113
>>7861495
>>7867246

>>7867331
Yeah some of the artists are top tier but I mean... the guy making the drawpile always does his 5 minute dogshit doodle and leaves... but i get it, what's the point in joining something if you are not in the 1%

>>7867331
that reminds me, I've recently visited a drawthread on /v/ and saw some guy deathmog me while drawing in the fucking notes app on his phone
https://vidya.pics/post/list/artist%3Aultra_aka_ross/1
made me melt for the rest of the evening

>>7867333
Raw unfiltered talent. top .0001 of artists.

>>7867333
fucking eww, i mean... er... the content is lacking you are a degenerate furry with no taste good sir.

>>7867294
Not as you've drawn it. You could place a line or shading there to represent where the torso is overlapping the breast but it would follow the overall shape of the torso rather than the curve of the breast.

>>7867335
who cares about content. yeah the artist is a sonicnigger which is a shame, but look how fun his linework is

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>>7867294
doesnt seem liek it

>>7867331
The problem is that you’re comparing yourselves to them. The drawpile is fun bc it’s a lot of different skill levels and styles. Let go of the need to compare

>>7867340
Visit the ophthalmologist ASAP

>>7867343
i cant
it hurts knowing there's better people there. and the contrast between skill just makes me even more upset. i learn nothing by warching someone paint a masterpiece in 20 minutes while I erase a torso for an hour

>>7867340
It's just a millipen... aka a marker if you use a poorfag program. Man my brain is notleftard enough for this.

>>7867347
I feel you anon I really do. There’s always gonna be someone better than you at *something*, which is why the goal should be to be the best artist you can be, because that’s all you can control. Its important to understand that your art journey is unique and that you will grow at a different pace and in a different way than others. There’s a lot of great things about your art but you’re not seeing it because you’re too busy looking at other’s. Once you take the time to realize how truly special your own journey is, you won’t even want to compare. It takes time but I’m sure you’ll get there

>>7867243
Cyclops cute

>>7867347
You're too precious with your sketches. If you can't stop endlessly fine-tuning your drawings, I suggest you switch to trad for a while and draw directly in ink.

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here's the full canvas of today's study
>>7867347
permabegschizo, you? why are you replying on my behalf? I'll be leaving the thread till tomorrow then
>>7867345
ngmi appeal-let, unable to look beyond content to appreciate skill in isolation
>>7867352
you cannot grow without looking up

>>7867362
>permabegschizo, you? why are you replying on my behalf? I'll be leaving the thread till tomorrow then
Nope.

>>7867362
I think some fag is trying to pretend to be other posters in order to make them look bad

>>7867362
True but you also can’t see your own growth if you’re too busy looking at others’.

Also, these look great

>>7867365
nice penis

>>7867369
Why are you guys dicksucking him so much? Not everyone is a left brained freak most people are grounded, they simply choose better hobbies. If he doesn't feel like his art can go public, we are men, not women or blue colored hair retards.

Bad shitty freak behavior, let the man cook.

Right-brained constructoid protohumans are getting uppity again.

>>7867280
its because im drawing with a mouse right now i guess. some of the lines are just done sloppily i guess and could be redrawn. i probably wont get it as smooth overall as with a pen. not great i guess but i just enjoy mouse drawing atm

>>7867370
...thanks

>>7867373
I just dislike seeing people like compare themselves to others. It’s very unnecessary.

>>7867379
keep the wobbly lines, it's very appealing to look at

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What studies should I do if I want to make scenes like this?

>>7867382
Protecting Mediocrity. It's 2025 not 2010 and people gotta eat, get good or get out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHaOP1hRzAc

>>7867390
You can get good without unnecessary comparison . Comparison is how you get worse actually because you don’t see where you grew. It accomplishes nothing

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hands are so difficult

>>7867363
give me your abilities, plsesey

>>7867407
what's wrong?

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>>7867368
Not that anon but he's done it before
>someone gives me a critique
>I don't immediately reply
>the faggot schizo will argue with the other anon to post his work, on my behalf, for some stupid fucking reason
>other anon thinks I'm being dunning kruger with him
>have to reply HOURS later that I'm not the original faggot crying about how he has to pyw, and awkwardly thank him for the critique

>>7867373
Most people are "left brained" you dumb dumb, just means they're right handed. 90%+ of the population

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nameless kings feet <33333
>>7867362
>permabegschizo, you? why are you replying on my behalf?
nah thats probably lagoona

>>7867406
goes very harfd
>>7867368
actual cringe
>>7867411
thats so schizo wtf

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Been trying to mix in a page of cartoon faces a day to relax and play around a bit. Maybe I'm just stupid today, I felt like I was having trouble pulling anything interesting out of the references. A couple decent ones a couple trash. Do people find more value out of studying a style first from an artist they like and trying to emulate it or just winging it an experimenting.

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>>7867362
Nah. Reads like something I would write and how I felt when I used to join magmas but that isnt me.
You have a very good way with forms and appeal and curves and I think you are ready to do more finished drawings because your sketching is already solid.

Pic related something of mine you redrew . I saved it in my redraws folder in the "appealfag" subfolder, I cherish it.

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I feel pain

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>>7867386
Maybe Caspar David Friedrich's paintings, dragons dogma and dark souls (both the games and art books)
>>7867363
You should live

>>7867370
y-you too

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Gearing up for a peaceful walk in Minessota!

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>>7867363
THAT'S A CHILD

>>7867458
>huge tits
>child
what?

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color blocked version

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>>7866912

>>7867476
i like the first head more but good job cutie looks better with actual hips , now ditch the furry fetish and draw a waifu like a good samaritan

>>7867476
I wasn't really sure if I should make her belly button visible or not. Still not sure tbqh

>>7867479
I didn't change the head at all though, just the blushies.
Are you talking about the trad sketch?

>>7867481
The cheeks are literally gone now, god i hate artists so much it's unreal.

>>7867491
Is that April on the left or Retta?

>>7867488
The cheeks are still there just less pronounced. You like puffy cheeks it seems

>>7867505
Tru. if you're lacking subjects you should go for lil' Sebastian or Ron Swanson in Loomis heads next.
Good looking Ben and April btw.

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so i started reading Figure Drawing For Artists by Steve Huston today (stopped at the start of chapter 3) and after tracing the artwork he provided for a bit, i tried practising doing a pose
admittedly some things confused me bc im retarded and i need to read more carefully, but i tried doing things with a long, curvy flow and make sure the lines don't oppose each other. also tried not chicken scratching but it is a hard habit to break.

im not sure if this is good or even appealing and surely full of mistakes (the face in particular looks wrong to me), but whenever i draw a person it takes me a really long time and this took 23 minutes. i wasn't aiming for making things 1:1 perfectly accurate but more so having fun. if this is a bad habit or not i can't tell; it will be another one to the pile

thanks for reading my blog

>>7867502
Back to step 1. You changed the head right? The skull shape changed right?

>>7867514
I didn't make any any meaningful changes aside from the cheeks which was minor preference.
Only real thing that bothered me was the lack of hips and adjusting some of the shapes on the tail poof and thigh. Feel free to make any changes you'd like, I'm sure anon would appreciate his furry being as appealing as possible.

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>>7867518
Cross-posting from my own thread, merging together 3 weeks of adderall-induced practice and completed my first ever full drawing.

>Drawing
>Its ugly
>Try to fix it
>Its now uglier and with no fundies
I cant get better.

>>7867521
why does it look like your pubes on the the paper

>>7867521
looks good but the car is symboldrawn

>>7867527
Deer is quite a special boy

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>>7867517
I do appreciate critiques and plan to make some of those changes. Thanks for taking the time

>>7867527
im also unemployed.
if youve got a problem then fuck off back to linkedin little faggot. go suck up to the boss man for a 1% raise while he rails your nonexistent wife.
let us be /beg/s in peace sharty shit

>>7867525
Yeah first time drawing a vehicle. Couldn't manage fine curves that small, so the best I got was the angry Volkswagen.

>>7867527
>Employed full time
>Not on disability
Suppose reading comprehension isn't required on /ic/.

>>7867529
thats not deer you eyeless little boy

>>7867527
Anon is science experimenting on himself for all of us to observe
That's valuable data and pretty based

Fuck your assholes I’m /beg/ not /permabeg/ faggots.

>>7867531
H-hot...you should make a doujin about it

>>7867517
retard

>>7867538
Permabegschizo...

>>7867524
That's Strathmore Toned Tan, it just has those little hair looking things all over it

>>7867531
>Made up boss NTRs your tulpa

>>7867543
No you your the schizo asshole

>>7867527
>Attentionwhoring a whole ass general for himself
Would you rather have another AI le good vs le bad thread or a whole thread that should've gone to /sqtddtot/?

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I was really doing so well with this book, and anons were saying I was /int/ but this kicked my ass so much I'm pre-/beg/ again
He spends all this time building up muscles and then doesn't draw any of them here

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>>7867294
Another draft. The hands need work of course but do the eyes also look weird?
>>7867339
>>7867342
Thank you for the help :>

>>7867453
Shit got real, yo

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>can never get the hang of construction
>trying to do it without references
>feel like the proportions are off
>check heads
>actually lines up pretty well
Something seems wrong here, but I can't figure it out.

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Are the hands very big? Are the eyes very big?

>>7867453
>minnesota
The Somalis are going to "lear" at their daycares today it seems.

>>7867565
It's the limbs. The elbow should be the midpoint of the arm. The bottom of the knee should be the midpoint between the crotch and heel. The hands should be about the length from the chin to forehead.
>>7867566
Neither look too big to me, but her eyelashes on one side are a little low.
Also, her thumbs are behind her fingers. Typically you see people use the thumb to hold the fingers down.

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>>7867580
Good work with that pose on the left

why is drawjng a cube in front of me so hard?
i cant get thr proportions right

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when does it get better. i cant draw cubes
>no dont draw cute girls, practice construction and basics
ok
>no dont draw construction and basics, draw what you want
ok
>no dont draw cute girls, practice construction and basics
ok
>no dont draw construction and basics, draw what you want
ok

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>no dont draw
ok
>no dont draw
ok
>no dont draw
ok

This hobby breaks people.

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didn't use any reference for the body and it came out shit
I am supposed to be working but I am procrastinating...

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>>7867606
draw cute girls while practicing contruction and basics

>>7867615
Only if you have no talent. You dont see the ones with the talent to improve complaining.

>>7867622
I hate them
life is fucking unfair. i fucking hate them

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>>7867618
I have a question, this type of tilt has a vanishing point doesn't it?

>>7867631
That's true, but for a close up image like that, the two VPs are so far away from the composition that I would consider the lines to be parallel for practicality.

>>7867585
Thanks

Never mind i just figured it out, it is a wide lens photo and they just copy paste the same face over and over until they memorize it... filthy gooks, i will never forget this, korea banzai.

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I have a question about Michael hampton's book vs his videos since they seem to contradict each other.
For instance in the book he talks about using repeating lines for the sake of rythm and composition of the figure as well as to carefully guide the eye down the piece, but in the videos he outright says he uses like 17 lines for a whole figure gesture.
Also in the book he does divide the spine in the 4 segments but still depicts it as a contiguous line, whereas in the videos the spine can be totally separated.

Am I being autistic and taking the book as gospel when it's just a toolbox with which to find my own path?
Pic related, some of his gestures from design and invention which also don't really seem to follow the method he outlines.

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>>7867640
wrong file.

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>wip for some anon.
There are moments where I get to enjoy drawing when it doesnt make me want to rip my fucking eyes off. Mostly on sundays when I am rested from wageslaving and get to have the day for myself.
I have come to realize that my drawings almost always look dirty because I scratch and doubt way too much while erasing and remaking most of my lines. Everything looks ugly and choppy while other more talented artists always have gorgeous sketches.
https://files.catbox.moe/u6qyx1.JPG

>>7867640
>>7867641
His gesture lessons are pretty confusing and I don’t like the fact that be puts it first in his book because it causes so much overthinking such as this. You need to have a decent understanding of anatomy before tackling gesture and honestly it isn’t gonna make “sense” to you until you know why he’s making the decisions in his gestures that he does. My advice is to not spend too much time on gesture unless absolutely necessary, such as if you want to animate or something. Like maybe use it as a warmup or something but don’t expect your drawings to be on the level or same quality as his for a long time

>>7867640
Also to directly answer your question, a lot of these things your mentioning really just depend on the drawing

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You fellas think my art style is appealing? beginning work on a webcomic series and wanted to gage reactions to see if it would be something people would look at and read.

>>7867652
It’s not anon I won’t lie. The good thing is you’re on the right track especially anatomy wise but right now you still have a lot of improvement that needs to be made. Like the knowledge is there but the execution and stylization isn’t. Maybe do some studies and try drawing from life so your drawings aren’t so stiff

>>7867640
>>7867641
>in the videos he outright says he uses like 17 lines for a whole figure gesture.
Keep in mind that the gesture is a frame to build the figure on. The 17 lines is like a 30 second gesture. The figures in your second image are if he developed it more into a 3 minute gesture.
>in the book he does divide the spine in the 4 segments but still depicts it as a contiguous line
In the book I believe it's just different visual examples so you can associate the simple lines with a spine as a 3d form. How he does it in his videos is easier and faster, in my opinion.
>Am I being autistic and taking the book as gospel when it's just a toolbox with which to find my own path?
I think there's merit in following it until you understand it and can use it well, but in the end it's definitely a toolbox. Use what you like, toss the rest.
>>7867652
Do people other than artists care much about art in webcomics? Thinking back to before I started drawing, I barely looked at the art. If it was unappealing and the story was good, the art would grow on me. If the story was bad, I dropped it even if the art was good.

>>7867658
The art draws people in, the story keeps them there. Ideally you want both to be good

>>7867659
>The art draws people in
That's true, I do remember picking up stories for the art even if I didn't care about it much. And it's hard to sell the quality of your story at a glance the way you can with the art.

>>7867614
>>7867606
how do we help me

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>>7867647
Funnily enough, in a proko video he does actually note that other popular art books like Figure Drawing for all its Worth put gesture much farther back along. I guess it makes sense to understand what you're abstracting before you try to abstract it. Thanks for the comprehensive answer, you actually covered other things that I didn't even bring up.
>>7867658
I didn't even think to consider it was just a difference in time. Pretty obvious in hindsight.
All that being said I think the above anon is right, I was trying to get to the bottom of something that I don't have the foundation to actually grasp just yet, fun as it can be. At least I'll probably get a huge power boost by bothering to learn anatomy and such.

>>7867663
pet THE FUCKING DOG

>>7867663
Learn basic perspective. You don't need to get that deep into it to figure out cubes.

>>7867646
I think the problem here is that you're a mentally ill pedo and God Himself is blocking you from pursuing art

>>7867646
i feel the same way, but youre doing far better than I am
I legitimately want to end everything. life is too stressful
>>7867673
Ok
l. will try tomrorow
>>7867670
he's feeling better thank you

>>7867423
yuck! is that how I used to draw last year? needs a redraw asap (me looking for an excuse to avoid studies)

also sorry for assuming you were the other guy

what are some common fetishes that you personally dislike in art? I don't like stomach deformation, most of the time it looks goofy rather than hot

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Been ages. I basically stopped drawing.

Here a Maelle inspired drawing

>>7867641
>>7867640
hes a snakeoil salesman posing himself as someone who could teach you to draw from imagination buy every single demo he does he's looking at a reference. Everything coming out of his mouth is hot air, what he really is teaching you is how to copy with a specific style

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>>7867689
thoughts? how do I make sure the dude in the back is the right size/perspective?

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>>7867718
The red lines indicate your blue line perspective, which in my estimation is all over the place. Following the pool's line using blue perspective lines and the handlebars' heights, we can try to establish the true vanishing point, or at least an approximation of one. If they are supposed to be the same height, using autism as a prerequisite, we can place two line from the vanishing point to measure the length of one of her bodyparts, in this instance her upper arm. Using this as a guideline, we can approximately calculate the high needed for the other character to be a realistic height, which he seems to be. Be mindful, I'm doing this on my phone, so it's not perfect.

Or you could just accept the fact that they just need to sort of correct, and not be an autistic sperg about correct height. It looks fine, anon. The perspective you did draw however, makes no sense in comparison to the rest of the scene, if we suppose that the handlebars are the same height as eachother.

>>7867729
this is some nerd bullshit... but thanks